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The Not So Magnificent 7

The Not So Magnificent 7

Capoue, Chadli, Chiriches, Eriksen, Lamela, Paulinho and Soldado. Still bedding in or expensive failures, perhaps not wanted by the current or next manager?

We can always look at individuals and argue that they need time, a settled team and style of play to suit them, but when you buy players for a combined £100 million, it could also be argued that you expect more quality and effort, after forty games into a season. In fairness one or two have struggled to get a run of games, either due to injury, form of others or perhaps struggling to adapt to the pace and physicality of the Premiership, it is is probably harsh to claim that all seven are failures, but it is certain that none have been outstanding successes either.

Perhaps we can claim that one or two might just not be good enough and in the cases of Chadli and Chiriches that might so far appear to be the case. I would also suggest that Capoue expected an easier ride and to be an instant and automatic selection, but die to early injury and perhaps a not so outstanding attitude, he has struggled. Lamela just looks lost, Does Eriksen fit into the curet managers plans and in Soldado, we have a player who looks devoid of confidence, but on current form, cannot regain it without playing, but at the same time his contribution isn`t good enough for selection.

As for Paulinho, he has been okay. Not bad, but also not good. Again he needs time, but I also get the impression he is just doing enough and not bringing his 'A Game' to Tottenham. Rated as the complete midfielder, so far can we honestly say he has really been much above six out of ten in performance? With a World Cup coming, I almost feel he is just ticking over for that and also has a private hope that his own displays will get him a marquee signing elsewhere. I would also argue that Jan Vertonghen, Hugo Lloris and one or two others might just be doing the same.

It is easy to blame the seven new recruits, and we all know that there are several other senior players that are struggling to maintain their form or are just not quite good enough for the top four places and sadly instead of building upon hardening foundations this summer, I have a feeling that it will be another exodus and recruitment drive, whoever is in charge and no doubt there will be one or two major battles between Spurs, a player(s) and courting clubs looking to grad our unhappy and unsettled players.

If we take our rose tinted specs off, is there really any one of those players that we would be devastated to lose in the summer? For me, Eriksen has been the pick of the bunch and I have been baffled why he hasn`t been the key man for Tim Sherwood, but sadly something doesn`t seem right. Is this a situation where we will see players rejuvenated by a full season, pre season and 12 months integration into the English culture? I actually wonder if already we have players just treading water, knowing that a new manager is likely to step in, in the summer or that they have already earmarked a move away. All of these players are worthy of playing Champions league football, but sadly for Spurs, are they worthy of our undying loyalty, when it could be argued that they are not actually giving that to us in return...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Tuesday February 25 2014
Time: 5:00AM

Comments

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For me only paulinho has shown he might be up to the mark, but even so he's not been that great. Eriksen looks like a lightweight to me, disappears far to often during matches, and never dominates games can't see what the fuss is all about. Would not bother me if we got rid of the lot of them. £107 million we spent and came out of it with a worse team, it could only happen to Tottenham Hotspur
whitehartmart
24/02/2014 18:36:00
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Ericksen looks like he will be a decent buy, not sure about Paulinho looks like a flat track bully who goes missing in the big games, hope I am wrong!! The rest were a waste of 110m, lack of pace and lack of strength needed in our league are the attributes they all have in abundance.......Sold one player and replaced him with 5/6 players that our not fit to lace his boots. The squad is no stronger then when we had Bale, results against the better teams has shown that this season. Another "transition season" going into yet another one and followed by yet another one, is the recurring theme Enic has given this club in the last 10 years or so.................Enough is Enough we all should be screaming outside the west stand at these abject failures running this club as there own cash cow at our expense!! COYS
WestStandEnclosure
25/02/2014 05:26:00
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I think there is definite quality in all of them. The fact that so many of them are misfiring or underachieving imo reflects poorly on the coach and the training staff.
Madaboutspurs
25/02/2014 05:31:00
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Madaboutspurs I dont tend to agree with the coach and staffs fault, these are the same players who played when we got tanked against other teams under the old regime. I think having so many players that lack pace in the same side is a recipe for disaster in our league. Fielding an 11 which has Dawson,vert,Chiriches capoue, soldado and even chadli in some match's is like the titanic trying to turn away from the iceberg........it is down to bad transfer dealings we have brought in so many static players, that is why we tend to be such slow starters in games now, teams now get at us early and we spend most of the first half trying to wrestle back the initiative from the oposition!! will work against the fodder most weeks, but against the better teams its results in a 2 goal start.......game over!!
WestStandEnclosure
25/02/2014 05:43:00
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Ok time out, the question should be, are they better then what we had ( not including bale) answer Yes, just not better then we hoped, would we like better then we got yes and it goes on and on, the squad is improving the trouble is at the bigining we hoped for more, like 2nd or 3rd in the table and winning the F A Cup, thats it finished, COYS
spurs50yrs
25/02/2014 06:03:00
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WSE ... I agree with you about lack of pace. The back four can make do with average pace, as long as they have experience and good positional sense. We do need more pace from the MF and forwards. We have a couple of pacey players but it's not going to work if other players can't keep up with them going forward ... it stops us from counter attacking as a team. The trouble is, there's quite a few other things missing, too!
Geofspurs
25/02/2014 06:51:00
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Sadly, Wenger was right ... too many new players at once!
Geofspurs
25/02/2014 06:53:00
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These players need a season to adjust. They have suffered through management, injuries and trying to adjust to the Premier league. It's not trying to make excuses it's a fact. For example, under AVB Soldado suffered through a lack of service. A problem for a fox in a box striker? Frustration, personal problems, also justifying his price tag has created a heavy burden and a lack of confidence. Next season we should judge. They just need a good pre-season unfer their belts. COYS!
James1
25/02/2014 07:35:00
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At the moment I would have titled it the not so magnificent 25, not so magnificent coaching staff and owners! :(
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 08:04:00
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Chiriches and Eriksen already seem quality buys and worth more than we paid. Chadli and Capoue, more hit and miss, but in terms of value not the worst buys ever. Paulinho I think was an overpriced jack of all trades, master of none. He's a good player but all too often I wonder why he's on the pitch instead of someone who will provide a more concrete skill. Lamela has been unlucky with injuries since TS came in and AVB didn't give him enough run of games to really judge a player that was always going to need time to settle. Soldado, I just find so difficult to judge...his link up play, passing and movement is top notch, but the guy just can't score for us. He's getting chances so you can't put it down to getting used to a new league or teams style of play, it has to just be confidence. Will he get it back though, or is he destined to go the route of Torres? If someone were to offer 18+mil for him then I think Levy would be a fool to risk him coming good, otherwise I think it's worth giving him a 2nd season. Ultimately we bought too many players at once, although on a positive note doing so will help us cope if we don't get CL again. We will still be able to retain enough quality to make minor tweaks and still be there or thereabouts.
flipper
25/02/2014 08:15:00
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I do agree, too many new players, and it's not a case of them being 'bad' players, just that they've not YET been as good as we were all hoping. I mean, come on, be honest, when we were announcing Paulinho, Soldado, then almost Willian, but followed that up 2 days later with Lamela - who didn't think we'd be hitting top 3?! I think most of us did. Willian Obviously didn't happen, the rest of the guys we signed had no English experience. I do get tired of constantly changing managers, but it looks nailed on that Louis Van Gaal will be in through the door this summer - the one thing you hear about him, is that he doesn't buy 'star' players, it's all about the team working together.....lets give these 'not so magnificent 7' a full pre season under whoever may be in charge next year, and see what happens. Our formation didn't suit Lamela under AVB, I believe that is why he struggled, the injuries have not helped either. Soldado and his wife have obviously had their struggles this year, but the fans have been amazing with him, not once have we turned on him, we always sing his name loud - he must be hearing that. For me, let them all get fit over the summer, sell off 1 or 2, and I do mean 1 or 2, and buy 3 - Left back, Centre back, Striker....we don't even have to spend big! Maybe I'm worng, I've been told numerous times I'm the eternal optimist when it comes to Spurs, I just want to see Lamela, Eriksen, Soldado & Chiriches with a full pre season under their belts, and hopefully a whole season under one manager.....then, if they're still not up to it, I'll accept that we're just not good enough, but right now, I genuinely hold out huge hope that both Soldado & Lamela WILL come good for us......am I crazy?! please, someone tell me if I am!!!
King26
25/02/2014 08:22:00
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Capoue and Erikson are both good players if used in the right formation (which is not 4-4-2). Neither are a fit in a 4 man midfield too slow (cap) and too lightweight (eric) but both are good players and I'd take either at Arsenal.

The rest? Well they've all looked pretty poor to be honest and look, at this moment in time, like a whole waste of money. I don't know who approved the €30m for Lamela but whoever did should be shot.

Big disappointment for me is Paul, should be doing a lot better than he has been. Seems happy to let games just pass him by, no real desire to fight for the team. Would imagine he will be gone after the World Cup.

Too many players bought when 2-3 really good ones would have been enough.

Galway Gooner
25/02/2014 08:26:00
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One problem this close season is the World Cup .

Van Gaal, if he comes will not be here until his WC commitments are finished and he has a break.

Players we may want may be at the WC. Players that want to leave will be at the WC.

Pre-Season training will also be affected due to the WC.

Not having a manager that we want / need may be worse this close season than others .

We need to let a good few players leave, Rose and Dawson at the front of the queue .

As for the not so magnificent 7, imo they can all go !

Perhaps this is all a result of two seasons og turgid football, thanks to Bale for last years highs though .

Perhaps it is just us supporters wanting so much more for our team ............... Who knows !

ro6ertj
25/02/2014 08:38:00
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there is the other consideration as to how they are integrating within the squad, how they train and what effort they are making to improve. for example how hard are the likes of Lamela looking to learn the language? Is someone like Eriksen looking to add strength, as did Modric. So much goes on behind the scenes and it is sadly a fact that the first seasons are the hardest, which has also be compounded by the whole teams disappointing performances, inconsistency, too much change and different manager with different ideas and ways of doing things
oxfordspur
25/02/2014 08:39:00
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og ... of !
ro6ertj
25/02/2014 08:39:00
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Does anyone think it was Baldini's magnificent 7? Could it be why AVB didn't want to play Lamela? It wasn't his signing and just ignored pressure from Baldini and Levy to play him? All hearsay I guess but perhaps Baldini is trying to influence team selection and tactics and Tim is doing an AVB and telling him to eff off. I'm probably talking *****e. COYS!
James1
25/02/2014 08:49:00
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I have repeatedly stated that the on the pith problems that have haunted our great club throughout the Sugar/Levy/Lewis years have been totally down to the fact that the men own who own and run OUR club are not in anyway qualified to be doing so! Worst still the current chairman truly believes he know more about football than the coaches and dof's he employs. Levy loves buying and selling football players. That is the big buzz for him, and the owner Lewis allows him to get away with it so long as those balance sheets look good. A zero net spend and getting that stadium built on the cheap, so the football mercenary Lewis (now at his 6th football club) can walk away with a minimum of a 500 million quid profit are his only concern. If Lewis wanted silverware as badly as the Russian at Chelsea, LOSER Levy would have been fired a decade back! We all know this is the truth! So until that new stadium goes up through naming rights or whatever SCROOGE tactic Lewis can use, we are stuck with the little LOSER running the show! Unless of course there is a major ENIC OUT campaign to get the football mercenary and his little fantasy football joke of a chairman out of our great club, which is exactly what happened when Lewis owned AEK Athens. There were mass anti Lewis protests and he sold up... The truth! If we fail to make the Europa League next season, which looks likely now that United are just 5 points behind us, 'ENIC OUT' will become the anthem... We want our Tottenham back!!!
Pele10
25/02/2014 08:58:00
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I don't think we can pass judgement on the new arrivals yet. Not because they need time in terms of weeks and months in the PL to gel and settle but because they haven't had (with a few exceptions) enough uninterrupted GAME TIME in the PL. It is game time that will prove whether they're good enough or not. Paulinho has probably played the most of the seven and even he has had his game time interrupted by injury and suspension. Soldado had a solid run of games in the first third of the season but under a different manager and system. He wasn't exactly prolific then and since the change in manager his game time, like his goal scoring, has been very limited. The others (Chiriches, Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli and Capoue) have had limited game time (or none in the case of Lamela). I'd be happier passing judgement on these players if they were given an uninterrupted run of 20 or so games in the first team. Only then could we pass judgement. 1 game every 4 or 5 or a few minutes as a sub doesn't allow players to find their place in the team or the league. How good could Eriksen or Capoue be, for example, if they were shown the same uninterrupted faith and loyalty afforded to Bentaleb?
SpuriousLife
25/02/2014 08:59:00
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Ox, very unfair in Chriches to compare him to CHadli. Tie a tractor tyre round your waste, blow it up, go stand in a muddy field then compare yourself to Chadli.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:09:00
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It's like everything concerned with this club at the moment, they are all here and we have to just get on with it. When all players are fit, when ever that is, we have two full teams, which on paper look pretty good. Before Sherwood drives his 19yr old love child into the ground, for god sake give the lad a rest on thursday, but we all know he won't. The 7 we signed are good players, I see Ashley Williams is being linked to us, he would be ideal, replacing Dawson and Kaboul's sands of time are fast running out, which is a shame, Luke Shaw replacing Rose or anyones Gran come to that would be a sound move. The 7 are good players, we just keep rebuilding and rebuilding again and again, the players have not settled in as well as we all thought, then again has this club had a settled season, some not all players sign because of who the manager is, only to see him being thrown out and next please, this guy is in charge. That could happen again this summer, is it any wonder we feel pi$$ed off, people talk, I wonder what conversations go on at our training ground day by day. It's becoming a complete shambles off the pitch, now it's getting onto the pitch.
spu 4 life
25/02/2014 09:17:00
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Alan Sugar.......A season to adjust what a load of bolloxo, 28 years old at 26 million needs a season to adjust................King26 when we signed those three i didnt think we would be hitting top 3, can you mark me down in that camp please.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:18:00
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Alan Sugar.......A season to adjust what a load of bolloxo, 28 years old at 26 million needs a season to adjust................King26 when we signed those three i didnt think we would be hitting top 3, can you mark me down in that camp please.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:18:00
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I don't think we have remotely seen enough of all the players to classify them. There is enough in all the players to suggest possible decent PL players and or class players. Paulinho would play for any team in the world, Erikson is adapting and playing all over the park yet his class is coming through, Capoue is a good player but needs to catch up to the pace of the prem and I'm confident he will. Soldado needs a goal lol and it will kick start him for sure, it's sad he has not but anyone who is a ST will know that feeling. Soldado could prove to be our hero this season (fingers crossed). Lamela well nothing to add except I cannot wait for the boy to show his class! Chadlii can catch the next flight out for all I care, useless and the only player I feel we have seen enough of to know he aint good enough. There was a plan in place with AVB but sadly our Owners and supporters failed to see it and forced Levy's hand. We are now in a position of having a gung-ho manager with zero experience in managing 7 gifted internationals and making his selections based on his potty training.
Mix26
25/02/2014 09:19:00
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Spu4 why would you replace one donkey with another? we need to learn from the august farce not make it worse.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:20:00
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luke shaw is not a donkey
spu 4 life
25/02/2014 09:24:00
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Chiriches sorry I really like watching and he needs to get stuck in with his head more... his nose wont take anymore beatings! @ S4L great post! @ Topho lmfao!
Mix26
25/02/2014 09:25:00
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Spu4 - But Ashley Williams may well be?
SpuriousLife
25/02/2014 09:26:00
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topho that should read ; I see Ashley Williams is being linked to us, would he be ideal, replacing Dawson and Kaboul's sands of time are fast running out, which is a shame, Read more: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7516613#ixzz2uKAsLViq And not he would be
spu 4 life
25/02/2014 09:28:00
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Ok, soldado. 30 goals last season for Valencia, 10 for us and 4 assists, more assists than any other spurs player this year. Less than 400 minutes gametime this year I believe? Limited supply through formations we have used. Chiriches, Romanian skipper and looks class, unfortunate with injuries and Dawson generally preferred when all were fit. Paulinho, Brazilian international. How or why has his form dipped for us.? He is a world class player. Capoue, French international. Looks great when played properly, but seldom is. Chadli, Belgian international, great foot, eye for goal and the height we need around the goal. Always played out of position. Eriksen. International player, top 10 in assists across Europe last 3 years before arriving at spurs. Lamela, capped for Argentina. Ossie loves him, great starts last couple of years for Roma, injured - no game time this year , future spurs legend IMO! It's too early to write the 7 off. They have all proven their worth with previous clubs and national teams... How have spurs made them all bad? My guess is it is mis management by 2 managers, and poor coaching and off pitch support. This can be fixed!
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 09:41:00
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Ashley Williams is poor and there is no chance of Luke Shaw coming to Tottenham
Mixer yids
25/02/2014 09:41:00
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Mix26 Pauli wasnt good enough to get in the Norwich side Sunday, the same could be said of him in several games. Sadly having said that he has just about looked the pick of the bunch thus far.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:44:00
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* great stats* re lamela!
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 09:44:00
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Agree with Mix26 on his assessment of the signings. It was too many at once. Not just too many in, but too many out too in such a short time. These things needed to be progressed more gradually. We had just got our record points total for goodness sake. People also forget that it took Modric one and a half seasons to prove himself totally. Why is everyone expecting all 7 to merge in seamlessly. It even took Modric another 1.5 seasons to prove himself in La Liga subsequently. There are people thinking that Willian was a miss....no he wasn't! He would have looked exactly the same as our other signings. Any player that comes to a new country and into an unsettled side will take some time adjusting. At Chelsea, there was a pretty settled side, plus a manager who knows a thing or two about how Chelsea work. As for the outs...look at Livermore.... I am not saying that he is better than what we have, but he has 3 goals and 4 assists. Comparable to Paulinho and Eriksen....even though those are better players. We just need a) some time to work them in, b) find the right systems to work them in.
TonyRich
25/02/2014 09:51:00
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Galway, you are developing a pattern, when we have a bad game you come here to post, when your lot has a bad game you vanish. .Spu4 as you know my meaning was Williams for Dawson..................Dublin, you are bucking a trend with Soldado, just about every man woman and dog thinks he has been very poor this season, you seem to differ, q the clones.......Luke Shaw wants to play for Chelsea.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:52:00
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Ashley Williams is merely a year younger than Dawson.... How can that be ideal....?
TonyRich
25/02/2014 09:54:00
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Good post Dublin! COYS!
James1
25/02/2014 09:54:00
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Tony, why are we all discussing this now in February2014 when al this was blindingly obvious in August 2013? Modric was very poorly managed early doors, played out left side very often, this delayed the arrival of his quality, which was obvious before we signed him as was the fact that he was a central midfielder.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 09:57:00
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The other problem with the 7 signings is that it ignored other issues: 3 CBs + Kaboul was not enough. Rose as LB + untrusted Fryers + out-of-position Vertonghen or Naughton was not enough. If you are going to ignore Ade, then new Soldado and Defoe was not enough. 7 signings should really refresh the entire lineup nicely. All we did was create confusion in certain positions, and when inverting wingers, it created even more permutations....
TonyRich
25/02/2014 09:59:00
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all 7 are better than Rose and Andros yet they've had a good run in their preferred positions to show just how bad they can be....Capoue is a very good DM, Pauli has been better than average imo although he has played a lot of football, had an injury and could do with rotating to keep him fresh, Chadli- injured and not had a run...delivers a good ball but lacks the pace that might take him up a level, Vlad a very good ball playing CB just needs to learn to concentrate and head (put him at LB can't be worse than other options!), Eriksen - lightweight start but getting better, Soldado -Never was, nor will be, a world beater but good touch and link up play has come under a lot of pressure due to the fee but that's not his fault...he will start putting them away- he's proved it time and again over his career. Lamela...how anyone can call this boy a flop I don't know, he's not played! and when he has had mixed performances in cobbled together teams another who has shown his class at a high level...meanwhile Daws has gone backwards, Bentaleb has nailed down a starting spot and had a good run whilst showing he is OK, nothing more (see Pauli description in article) but has to cut out turning into trouble (have the oppo now sussed which way he turns?) Ade has come in and started playing but for how long?....we have more problems than the 7 we bought (13 we lost)...it's more a case of Lions led by Donkey's....
shedboy2
25/02/2014 10:02:00
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Topho I was thinking the same thing re:GG. Surprised not to see that**** from Chelsea as well. COYS!
James1
25/02/2014 10:02:00
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Topho - Modric by his own admission stated that it took him longer than expected to get accustomed to the pace of the English game.... it was more that than any sort of mismanagement. Anyway, that is one example. I could name several examples. It generally takes a while for players from abroad to settle, and we signed them ALL from abroad, which was another problem. Look how much of an immediate impact Jelavic and Shane Long have had on Hull. I fully expect Jelavic to dry up soon, but it was just an example of why we should have made some signings within EPL and lower league... More expensive, but more of a sure/immediate thing.
TonyRich
25/02/2014 10:05:00
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1 in. ....Tony in August we needed 1. A left back. 2 A goal scorer/forward. 3 The lock picker. ...ideally all world class. One could argue the case after that for 103 other quality squad players. We got half of number 3 but spent 100 million on 7 players none of which had any prem experience. Brain dead.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 10:07:00
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Tops, agree re modric, and same could be said of bale. Remember he was our bad omen? Simply played out of position for so long. It really is the same for many of our new players, ( who have had game time to speak of) either played out of position in formation, or forced to play out of position during games. And that's not just because of injuries, it's because of the chaos that is our tactics on the pitch, inverted wingers( rearing their ugly heads again) and bentaleb being first name on the team sheet, without owning a position. He has been moved around forcing the likes of Pauli or dembele to play out of position or capoue/ eriksen getting snubbed altogether. If we can get someone in and establish who is best where, build a strategy to play to their strengths, it will be much easier to see who doesn't fit the squad, and my guess is most , if not all of the 7 signings will fit. If LVG does come as hoped by many, I can see the likes of rose, Dawson, Townsend and bentaleb being squeezed out. He won't keep them based on British media hype, when they show average to nothing performances on the pitch.
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 10:09:00
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Playing Modders on the left was the making of him...he was struggling centrally and may have been labeled a flop -constantly over-run, not tracking and getting caught in possession. Moving left allowed him to get up to speed and gain his confidence.
shedboy2
25/02/2014 10:10:00
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and wasn't modders voted the worst signing in Spain last year?....now look how well he's doing!
shedboy2
25/02/2014 10:11:00
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Two potential world class defence unlockers spurs have in the form of eriksen and lamela.
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 10:14:00
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Tony, Modric was always going to be a class player in the prem, it was screaming out of him, it aint from this lot, 4 are squeaking a bit but that is as good as it gets. Pauli doesnt want to play for us, Eriksen needs to be played where he will hurt the oppo, Chiriches looks as if he will make it, Lamela who knows, check Baldini's Monaco bank account, Chadli needs to play in the sun, Soldado is too one dimensional for the prem, he needs to watch videos of Bony, Capoue looks a decent player who needs a run and looks decent value. I agree with you Tony, which is not unusual.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 10:14:00
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How can we decide when we have 2 different managers in 6 months,7 new players some of whom have been injured most of the season or the manager of the moment doesn't fancy some of them.It's total chaos as you would expect when you put all these factors together.We don't even know if the manager is any good so how can you condemn the players!If we employed a manager of the stature of Mourinho,Fergie,Wenger or Rodgers we could sit back knowing that they would make the right decisions over who fits in to the team.It's not our job is it!?
Greavesaboveall
25/02/2014 10:15:00
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The magnificent 7 are more like the shameful 7. The best of the bunch for me is Chiriches and then Eriksen but hes far too light weight for me. There are many successful players in the EPL who have small frames such as Cazorla, Coutinho, Hazard and Pienaar but to name a few. Yes he is young but surely having the appearance of a teenage girl is not something that he was aiming for. Paulinho, Capoue, Chadli and Lamela are yet to display if they have any fight or gusto for the Lillywhite jersey at all. Quite sickening actually. Soldado for me is a shameful shameful player. It's not the fact that he is having a goal drought, thats fine but they way that he is taking his chances makes me want to cut him in half. No precision or accuracy in anythng he does. People say that he makes intelligent runs but any donkey who is training 4/5/6 times a week can run around and not score. Hardly impressive. If we get knocked out of the EL by Dnipro, I think our season would of hit a all time low. Many people on here say that we miss Bale / Bale's goals / Bale's energy, but people forget about Dempsey. No one really liked him but he scored quite a few goals for us in very tight games. Noone apart from Ade scores. The team is useless, lacking in pace and ideas.
Lady Tottingham
25/02/2014 10:16:00
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The sad truth is the majority of these signings are not good enough, it is now 2/3rds into the season and some are still not showing any signs of improvement in their form!! Next season half of them will be the next david bentley in the eyes of the new manager, surplus to requirements!! Oh well lets look forward to next season as the next transitional season to go with the last 10 or so under Enic!! the buck should be stopping their.............for signing these players in the first place to replace the worldies we sold on!! 110m and still count down from their the sell on value of the majority. This spend last summer reminds me of the lottery lout who had a big win, he blew the lot on sniffing charlie and stock car racing old bangers in a field!!
WestStandEnclosure
25/02/2014 10:17:00
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Regarding Pauli, he was promised big things by Loser Levy. "Come and play with Gareth Bale" he was told. Only to find him moved on just before the season began. Pauli gave it his all until his injury, and since is looking after number 1, with the world cup coming up! He knows now he is at a club with little or no ambition. Players speak to each other and Vertonghen another player who was lied to by LOSER Levy, "come and play with VDV, Modric and Bale", has obviously had word with him. When top players see top players of their level sold and moved on, they want the same, because they want success in their short careers. We are not a CL club and the THFC trophy cabinet is empty, and the new stadium is non existent! 4.5 billion quids worth of THFC board members have failed in 14 long years to find the finance to fund the thing, let alone build it... Top Players ain't mugs! They know Levy is a LOSER and the clubs owner has little or no on the pitch ambition! The THFC auction house will open yet again at the seasons end...
Pele10
25/02/2014 10:18:00
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I think the problem with the manager/coaches is as important as the palyers themselves. A strong experienced coach with a solid system and style probably would have seen improved performances/confidence/results across the board. We need the next coach to come in with a system and have a solid starting eleven for that, then a good rotation and youth backup for each position, anybody who doesn't fit the system or 3rd/4th choices should go. Just a few years ago we had 5 decent rightbacks at the club, and one leftback, this problem must never be allowed to raise its head again.

Of the magnificent seven: Capoue, Eriksen, Paulinho, Chiriches and Lamela are good enough in my book to be in the starting eleven. Soldado and Chiriches are either not good enough, not what we need or don't fit. I would keep the five above, add them to Sandro, Lennon, Dembele, Holtby,Ade, Jan, Lloris, Naughton and Walker and we have a strong 14, add Kane, Carroll, Townsend, Fryers,Prichard, Bentaleb so that gives us 20 that I think are good enough to feature next season. Our problems are in other areas, we don't need more than 5 ins and ALL bar a first team leftback and a left winger would be prospects/reserves as nobody worldclass is going to join to play second fiddle. Therefore I would buy a young English Keeper, Striker and two centrebacks.

If we are assuming that Kaboul will be let go, Sigurdsson, Dawson, Soldado, Rose, Gomes and Friedel should all be shown the door too. Add all that to the Defoe cash and just invest it where it is needed.

If we line up next season with Lloris, Walker, Chirches, Jan, New leftback.. Capoue, Sandro.... Lennon, Eriksen, Dembele and Ade, it stilleans that players like Townsend, Paulinho, Holtby, Naughton, Bentaleb and our prospects are sat on the bench or playing in cup games/Europe.

Therefore, instead of buying loads of potential first-teamers who struggle to adapt and settle we should be buying the best young players in Europe who can spend the first couple of years getting the odd game without the pressure and demands that were placed on the seven we bought last year.

Finally I have included Lamela because he just hasn't been given the games to be judged and is young enough to be given time, I saw him turn on the style for Roma a few times last season and boy can he play. He also can cover Eriksens position as well as play instead of Ade as a striker, he just needs to be given a chance. A first choice 26 million striker is something we don't need, we might need cover but I feel we even have that already. I also haven't excluded Lennon, but if we buy a great leftwinger then I wouldn't be upset to see him go to Newcastle, if it is a choice between Lennon/Dembele/Townsend for the rightwing, then the moose gets my vote every time.

sukhothai
25/02/2014 10:27:00
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should read *Soldado and Chadli are not good enough!
sukhothai
25/02/2014 10:31:00
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Dublin, I have sympathy, but just too many excuses, these are all internationals. They need to take responsibility for their own performances and we need to stop making excuses for them, step up or saddle up and feck off I say. Bad business to buy 7 at the same time, none with prem experience, saw it then as easy as it can be seen now. the focus wasn't there in august, 3 top players needed and not this stampede eyes closed to market, a three headed team each working to their own agendas not connected in their thinking. The other issus is that we bought too many one paced players to add to the mix of one paced players we have. I think there are only 3 exceptions, possibly 4. It was simply awful business, we need to learn from it, but I can assure you it will never happen again in such numbers and for such a huge sum of investment. Q the monopoly brigade.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 10:34:00
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Dublin, would be good if Vital could repost a collection of the august frenzy fest articles on here, there were a good few, to see the amount of bodily fluids erupting from a collection of constant posters on here. I bet some of them really lost weight during the festive period of August
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 10:37:00
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tophobunty1882 these slow players are the contributing problem to our lack lustre first halfs we see every game. Teams are just getting the initiative from the kick off and its taking us atleast 30 minutes to wrestle control back. fine against most of the fodder,but its a 2 goal deficit against any decent team.............game over!!
WestStandEnclosure
25/02/2014 10:40:00
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To be fair Topho, every pundit and most managers were vocally impressed with our summer purchases at the time. Everyone felt that based on their performances before coming here, we would be challenging for the title, of course as fans we all felt that this was our time, it easy easy with hindsight and after the event to lambast it, but that is now, not then.

I agree fully that it was a folly, and like you stated it won't happen often again at this club, but many other clubs have done this before, Utd, Chelsea, Citeh have all bought six or seven in a window before, it's just never before have ALL of them flattered to deceive. The real crime is that NONE of them, not one has repeated the form of their previous seasons at their prior clubs, shocking but true. How could seven players have sterling seasons before coming here then flop en-mass is beyond me.

If even five of them had repeated 75% of their stats for the season before, we would be sat at the top of the league and everyone here would be happy as Larry. They didn't, we aren't and it failed, but we only now that here today and none would've predicted for all seven to do as badly as they have.

sukhothai
25/02/2014 10:48:00
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I wasn't posting then tops, but I was over the moon with the signings. They have been mismanaged and as a result of the turmoil we have seen through AVB's sacking, rookie boy in, injuries etc I can understand that some aren't putting in the full effort. Not condoning it, but understand it. It's not what they signed up for. And I'd include verts, lloris ( although he's still giving it his all) and even ade now starting to lose patience. It is fixable, we just need a manager with kudos, experience and a proven track record to be announced, get the players focus back and get them playing where they belong and as a team! Simple really!
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 10:52:00
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Of couse add to the seven poor performers, Rose and Townsend not repeating their loan form. Dawson, Walker, Sigurdsson, Lennon and Defoe ALL not playing well. Kaboul and Sando being injured for most of the season and Ade being relegated to the youth for half the season. It is surprising that we aren't down in 17th place.
sukhothai
25/02/2014 10:56:00
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A little harsh in the article OX. For me Chiriches has done better than OK over all his game time, as well as Capoue, Paulinho and Erikson have been successes (I would expect profit on both is sold). Soldado hasn't adjusted to the pace of the prem, Lamela hasn't been seen, Chadli is average. If we sold all 7 in the summer I would expect something like the following:

Soldado £15m
Lamela £15m
Erikson £15m
Chiriches £10m
Paulinho £20m
Chadli £6m

Total £81m. I don't think all 7 will be sold though, I believe Erikson will want to prove himself as will Chadli and Chiriches. Soldado is likely to just go home to Spain and Paulinho will go if Real come in for him. Lamela, I dont even know if this guy actually exists or if I just dreamt about him!!!!
yiddyboy
25/02/2014 10:58:00
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VLAD ? i'm not seeing what alot of the posters are about this guy !! he is and has been a liability at the back, Opposition were targeting the through ball between him and Danny Pose. both players positional knowledge is questionable to say the least ! ask yourself the question, how many time has your heart been in your mouth when the 'class' Vlad is goin on a run outta defence or a fancy turn in the danger area???? let hope he proves me wrong with experience , if he does he'l be off to the chavs quicker than 'Looser' Levy (pele) can say TOP 4 !
South L/Derry Spurs
25/02/2014 11:03:00
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i would love to see how many goals we have conceeded with the through Ball between/over the LB and LCB when both VLAD and Pose has been playing
South L/Derry Spurs
25/02/2014 11:06:00
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Pele, can you qualify this please with names of the said board members and links t the financial evidence, in quids or $................Suko, I didnt, count me out of that camp please to be fair to me. Can you name the club, the window and the players where any club has spent huge on 7 none with prem experience, you suggest many other clubs have done this, you must have this info to hand.....Dublin, the idiots who did the buying were on the fekin moon, that's the problem.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 11:17:00
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Topho - What was you expecting fans to do when buying these players in August, cry? Yes you can have reservations but most (not you) people were very happy because investment (Bale money) was being made into the team. You are right that it was the wrong policy buying 7 unproven players but as an example Chelsea bought Torres for £50m because of prem experience and look whats happened.
Kong
25/02/2014 11:23:00
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http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/02/25/monaco-take-soundings-over-tottenham-hotspur-goalkeeper-hugo-lloris/129218/
ghulamville
25/02/2014 11:26:00
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I think they are all good players, happy we bought them, Im just not sure the managers we've had had utitlied them properly. But saying that I would be sorry to see Chadli leave end of season (shame he didnt go out on loan). I also think if he's not injured that we give Lamela a chance to claim that left side slot as neither Chadli nor Townsend seem good enough, if not play Erikson. The only problem we have is Soldado, he's a good striker, but has been so poor, do we sell him end of season and lose more than half we paid, or let the new manager next season try to get him playing the way he should.
Ossie
25/02/2014 11:27:00
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South L no offence but u talking pork pies mate
Mix26
25/02/2014 11:28:00
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offense
Mix26
25/02/2014 11:28:00
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Eriksen has been better since AVB went, Paulinho has been average but in his debut season with all things considered isnt that bad, Capoue when fit has done well, Lamela and Soldado simply havent got to grips with the premier league yet, Chadl for me isnt good enough, Chriches has done ok. I think Pauliniho wants out, he hasnt looked happy since he arrived. The only one I would be annoyed if we sold would be Eriksen, the rest have until next season to justify there price tag, that goes double for Soldado, had big hopes for this guy.
coys1717
25/02/2014 11:30:00
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Ossie, re Robbie, second option for me!
Dublin Hotspur
25/02/2014 11:31:00
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Talking of Danny Rose, how the hell has he made it to be our regular left back?? If we dont buy a decent left back this summer, whoever responsible needs to resign, Luke shaw is not going to happen, but Ive always liked the look of Martin Olsson, back when he was at Blackburn, pacey and is an actual defender first.
Ossie
25/02/2014 11:32:00
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Mix no offence taken other than its my opinion which i've generated with my own eyes :) and 15 years playing as a CB :)
South L/Derry Spurs
25/02/2014 11:32:00
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ossie=i dont agree mate.we have had 2 managers now.one continental and the other british and the players still look the same.it could be that most come into their prime next season,heres hoping
ghulamville
25/02/2014 11:33:00
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offense :)
South L/Derry Spurs
25/02/2014 11:33:00
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Ossie we will never get a return from Soldado off the pitch, simply stupid to pay 26 mill for a 28 year old. Only place to get pay back is on the pitch with him, or we cut our losses...........Kong there is a huge distance between the brain dead euphoria and crying, somewhere is the middle might have been common sense. Torres has scored a lot of goals for Chelsea, paying 50 for a player who had the injury Torres has was not sensible, PS i dont give a flying feck what Chelsea do. I do know like all clubs have made mistakes in the market and will continue to do so, but this is monumental. There is a sniff we come out of this 50/50, but i am not sure anything matters too much as if we miss CL for this season on the back of last, the golden era opp has probably passed us by.
tophobunty1882
25/02/2014 11:33:00
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