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lol or laugh out loud, might be one missing ingredient in the Tottenham team in recent times. Perhaps I am missing something or as I am not privy to the dressing room banter, am wrong, but certainly when I look at the players on the pitch, I feel that a bit of fun, banter and perhaps a little madness is not there.

If I look at the Spurs team, do I see too many individuals that have a real spark of energy, an ability to instigate fun and banter, or am I seeing a group of players that are a little laid back or maybe, just maybe, take life a little too seriously?

I feel we have the likes of Kyle Walker and Andros Townsend as two individuals that seem to be really positive characters, but Kyle was missing for the last two games, whilst Andros seems to be suffering a drop in confidence. Mr Madness, Sandro is suggested as being fit to at least be considered for Thursday, and I wonder if he is just the character, if not yet the player to reignite the team, just by his enthusiasm and positivity?

This is nothing against the players that have played in the last two games or even the bulk of the squad, but I do feel you need a few people that will ignite a few fires and even a sense of fun into the players, as some might be too relaxed for their own good. Do I see real fire (at the moment at least) in the likes of Dembele, Vertonghen and a few other senior players, whilst in others such as Soldado or Paulinho, are they yet comfortable or able to fully express their personality, as has been suggested?

Perhaps, there is a problem with communication within the squad or even in its dynamics. Seven new players, none having English as a first language, with at least three hardly knowing a word, is sure to make things harder for their integration, as well as the balance and unity of the dressing room. How can a player like Soldado, really gel with his team mates, when he struggles with the language? Even understanding the words are a start, but is is more about understanding the banter and sarcasm that fill any dressing room that is really key?

Spurs have in recent times, been heralded for having a united squad and I don`t think this is a problem today, but I just wonder if the chemistry between players and groups is no longer there or at least divided and you can imagine we now have a group of Belgians, Spanish/Portuguese speakers, as well as French and English ones. I watched a clip prior to the Dnipro game and noted with interest that some of the players were communicating in French. It didn`t concern me, but also did make me wonder.

Of course this isn`t a unique problem for Spurs, but have we recently entered a time when the English core of the squad had gone from being the majority to perhaps a minority and with so many foreign signings last summer the balance and banter has changed. That might not be a long term worry, but any change in dynamics takes time to adjust, especially if you lack characters and people to play the tricks raise smiles, even with acts of seeming stupidity.

Is a player like Walker, Townsend or Sandro, actually worth much more than their actual qualities on the pitch? All play with speed and intensity, but also with explosiveness that the likes of Dembele and several others seem to lack in their performance and nature. Performance might change, but character rarely does. Perhaps though that having a few players that make others laugh out loud, will bring smiles to faces and that will transfer itself with performances on the pitch?..



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday February 26 2014
Time: 8:43AM

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hmm i think its more the ability to single handidly change a game that we are missing more than the ability to make the others laugh on the pitch.. 1st
thfc1989
26/02/2014 09:10:00
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Absolutely!
Supayid
26/02/2014 09:16:00
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we signed too may new players and their English isn't good enough - so it's a changing room full of people that can't communicate their personalities to each other - next season will be different. Faith! (blind or otherwise) it's better than the alternative!
Dan Mac
26/02/2014 09:17:00
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I think Holtby seemed like a great positive character to have around the place. Agree with you though Ox, nobody likes going to work if it's not fun.
millspur
26/02/2014 09:30:00
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The fun side of the squad doesn't bother me as much as the lack of passion and leadership on the pitch. The majority of our players give me the impression they turn up, play and get paid because that's what they do. They don't understand our love for the club and certainly don't share our passion. Lol will only happen when people are happy, and after our last 2 games there should be no happiness on the pitch, there certainly isn't in the terraces......... COYS!
Supayid
26/02/2014 09:34:00
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Lewis holtby was the craic meister! Kept everyone amused in training and pre- match, always doing the spurs tv pranks and challenges! Some say this is part of the reason he was loaned out, due to immaturity. I think you need someone to drive the banter on the bus etc. He is valuable to us on and off the pitch, but he's at Fulham now:(... Hope they are enjoying him! If he comes back he has the making of a future spurs captain IMO. But by the by, we need players to start lolling like they are enjoying being at spurs, and improvements on the pitch will drive that, that comes from the coach surely! Structure, strategy and morale!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 09:42:00
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It certainly helps to have characters, both positive and strong minded. The club has gone pete tong over the last few months and the new signings are probably thinking why they signed, but the other side of me thinks why are they depressed? They are wealthy young men who get paid incredible amounts of money. They just need to get their act together and give it their all for the fans, the club and for themselves. I really don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror. COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 09:45:00
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Dembele is important to us to carry the ball and pass to the WINGERS. Get LENNON down one wing and TOWNSEND down the other and start scaring opponents.... I want to see those two start on Thursday- i don't care who TIMMAAAHHHH drops just play those two!!!
willfry
26/02/2014 09:49:00
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Bye Bye Vertongen and LLoris. Bye Bye season. Hopefully Bye Bye Sherwood. Dan Mac Man U will have to buy five or six players does this mean they wont compete next season?
tottscotspur
26/02/2014 09:50:00
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I think it's all due to the Jet-Stream.
Harry-Kari
26/02/2014 10:01:00
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AIA
Pele10
26/02/2014 10:14:00
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I really don't think ( and really hope) players are playing badly by choice! Surely a dip in form damages a few chances of getting to Brazil? Or if they want out it would drive down their asking price, giving them less opportunity to actually leave as DL won't sell unless there is profit. I think the dips in form are down to confusion and dismay with regards to how they are being set up and asked to play. They don't know where they are to cover if the structure breaks due to several players getting out of position, and their heads are down. Some are obviously not happy that they are having to play alongside mediocre team mates week in and week out, getting constantly left exposed, or simply being dropped in place of a media darling or managers love child. A new, proven manager would not let this happen. Picked on credit, play with structure and strategy, and keep morale high! Simples. Everyone is happy. Then everyone will be smiling and having the craic again!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 10:24:00
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we have lost 5 out of 9 and we have lost 2 out of 18...which of those two is the bigger problem? only a total idiot would ignore such factual evidence, it's not worthy on more than 5 seconds of anyone's life to understand its a problem. Move on, find the solution.
tophobunty1882
26/02/2014 10:25:00
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* hope they arent*
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 10:26:00
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your new logo Pele? Anal Injection Alert. Is it Red?
tophobunty1882
26/02/2014 11:02:00
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We might not be laughing much but I can assure you that some of our performances this season have been absolutely hilarious. Unfortunately it's been opposition fans having a good laugh at us.
SpuriousLife
26/02/2014 11:27:00
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We need players who care and who are determined to put things right. Sandro is the only one in the current squad (Holtby as well but we are missing him no?) who comes across that way. Where are the leaders? We need a Roberts, a Perryman, Mackay, Blanchflower or a Gazza! Sandro and Vert both offer leadership qualities. Let's see it ffs COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 11:37:00
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I don't see adebayor mentioned at all yet he constantly plays pranks on fellow players, I think the squad as a while has undergone a major transition with 7 players signed and a couple back from loan spells, new language and culture and then a change of manager, as the players get to know each other more the banter rises, players will settle then we will have a new manager come next season
waztap
26/02/2014 11:42:00
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I'm seeing a fair bit of frustration from players on the pitch. Not too many happy faces, a lot more moaning during games and lots of negative body language. They need some good results or some good bonding activities, imo.
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 11:53:00
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Harry-Kari ... or climate change! lol
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 11:56:00
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The problem is, it's not one or two players that have lost confidence (which would not be unusual) ... it's the whole team! And that is much harder to address. But it's the job of TS to turn this around, so it's a real test for his man-management skills. We'll know a lot more by the end of the season.
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 11:59:00
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waztap ... I agree that, with time, the banter will rise .... but only if the team is winning. If they are not winning there is more likely to be complaints and blame passing between them. So let's get a few good results. If they do well against the top teams they will play in march everything could quickly become positive.
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 12:05:00
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Geoff, why didn't I think of that....to borrow a joke about the England cricket team by the boys down under....what do you get if you mix Spurs with an Oxo cube?....A laughing stock. Plenty of laughter by the football world in general about our club but none within it. Can't wait for this season to finish and the next episode in our soap opera to begin starring Dan Levy Football Manager.
Harry-Kari
26/02/2014 12:06:00
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The whole culture/ language think is bollixology. Nearly every decent team in Europe are melting pots re culture and language. It should be a benefit, not what we claim to be seeing. They could all be learning off each other! This comes down to mis management on and off the pitch, in the players professional and personal lives. Wrong instructions, wrong support. The club is to blame for the overall problem. Highgate made a great analogy yesterday regarding expectations in the workplace. Spurs as a workplace is chaotic and it's rubbing off on the players!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 12:14:00
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Geof, I volunteer for the team to come to dublin for some cold climate training, banter and beer. Bonding of the highest level. Tim is not invited incase he opens his mouth to the media or god forbid any of my mates!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 12:17:00
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Does Spurs, in football terms know where it's going? We needed Levy to come out of his shell after the removal of AVB and tells us why and what was in store for us in the future. He didn't. Our club lacks transparency and there appears to be no communication between club and supporters. I really don't know where we are going and I think the players and staff think the same way. COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 12:22:00
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What's the matter with me. I've been a bit negative of late. Must be a dark cloud over me. Holiday and beer needed asap :( COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 12:31:00
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Well said James, on both posts.
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 12:34:00
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hmmm
tophobunty1882
26/02/2014 12:35:00
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James1, you didn't watch the Norwich highlights did you? That could be the reason for the dark cloud :).
Kong
26/02/2014 12:39:00
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Lol Kong I took your advice and if I had watched it who knows..maybe it would have have tipped me towards the edge of sanity ;) COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 12:44:00
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legalised touting alert http://www.stubhub.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur-tickets/tottenham-hotspur-london-white-hart-lane-2-3-2014-4307592/?ticket_id=1064346733 Pele in ENIC out
tophobunty1882
26/02/2014 12:45:00
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hate to say, bale did...
SpursWho
26/02/2014 12:49:00
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Cheers Dublin. One thing I'm looking forward to mate is tomorrow's match. I must be glutton for punishment ;) COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 12:54:00
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I'd love to go through James. Some appetising teams to beat before my trip to Turin. I live in hope Tim can turn this around for us. I am 99% decided he is not the man to bring us forward longer term though. Norwich decided that for me! He's not just a donkey, but a three legged one..... A wonkey!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 12:58:00
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Fecking StubHub are a disgrace. It smells of another ENIC scam to fleece the fans for an extra few quid on each ticket. I know they say selling prices are set by the seller but I can't believe that ENIC don't get a cut of any profits or alternatively have agreed a massive license / fee to give StubHub the opportunity to stitch up Spurs fans that want to attend games. Why don't we do like Arsenal do? They (as far as I understand it) have a ticket exchange which they run themselves where season ticket holders can give their tickets back for a particular game for which they receive the face value price they paid for it. The club then have a waiting list of fans who are offered those returned tickets at the same face value price. What is so hard about that?
SpuriousLife
26/02/2014 13:01:00
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Spurious. You are right. No commission!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 13:05:00
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SpuriousLife, I think that is how it used to be before Stubhub got involved. For the Arsenal match there is a ticket on sale for £1,150 which has a face value of £75. Madness.
Kong
26/02/2014 13:05:00
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Tim I can't argue with Tim's point tally..he has done very well but like you said he's not for the long term. You can't let a coach with no top flight experience manage a club this size. If he had a wily no2 (SAF!) I'd be more hopeful. People can argue about keeping Tim as manager but we need a manager with a proven track record. COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 13:07:00
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When dembele turns up and wants to play football we look like a winning team and most times do when he can be bothered ! Sandro as been a big big miss and a man amongst boys ! Dawson needs to be moved to a lower league team were he as belonged for years,as captain his rub off is there for all to see ! Got 100m or so for bale and it cost us that for one player also in c Ericsson as he is the only one of the seven to want to play football or put a shift in but as been on the bench in the last few games says it all about were the great spurs are. 3 or 4-0 tonight will be the result if this lot are fit? And feel like doing the job they get paid for. Are is that the problem they are not getting paid thats y they dont play as they should or could going by how they play for there former clubs.stand up and be counted and not laughed at from all qrauhters other than us fans who keep hoping well come good,hoping and hoping and so on year after year ! Coys the club that is as it would take more than a kick up the backside to make some of these boys move. Coys sorry for the rant but sick pussy footing about believing time will heal as for 32 years it as not come yet!
bazdog
26/02/2014 13:08:00
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Dublin ,,, that sounds like a great idea, mate ... can I come too?!
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:13:00
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Bazdog, most of the time Dembele can't be bothered, that's the problem with him. He IMO he could be to us what Yaya Toure is for City, he has all the attributes yet flatters to Deceive. Ever since his hip injury he seems like he is made of glass, we can all pick on Bentelab but Moussa is a senior pro, i expect more from him and pauli.
spurfect one
26/02/2014 13:14:00
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Far more concerned that we play as 11 individuals, with sniping being far more prevalent between our players. This is not a contented squad. As for Walker, he is almost always a target for sniping. Further, AVB was right, the England call up for Townsend was far too soon. He is a shadow of what we saw developing. This is not a happy team. Lose tomorrow and 8-10 players will be sitting for the balance of the season. Happy Happy Joy Joy. Foundering. Captain better go down with this one.
peterballb
26/02/2014 13:14:00
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Why would we want the Spurs players to start enjoying themselves? We'd have nothing to moan about.....Or laugh at.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:15:00
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James ... I think most of us have been a bit negative lately .... probably because there's a few things to be negative about. But ... if we stare at the current league table for a while it begins to look not quite so bad. :-)
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:15:00
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Lol Dublin I just called you Tim sorry (head hangs low) COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 13:16:00
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What do you call a Spaniard with a rubber toe? Roberto!
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:17:00
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Geofspurs/Man On!/Dublin (many others as well) you guys make my viewing of Vitalspurs enjoyable..I salute you all! COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 13:19:00
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Dublin holtby as you say as been a big miss since he left.he came in before the magnificent seven or one who turned up that is. Respect for LH from me.
bazdog
26/02/2014 13:19:00
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I've got a seat high up, behind the goal, at the Park Lane end for thursday. I'll be wearing my old goalkeeping gloves. If Townsend plays, they'll be more than handy.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:22:00
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we should have got david moyes as manager
ghulamville
26/02/2014 13:23:00
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Spurfect, agree 100% mate there is a player in there that only wants a kick about a few times a season and not be a spurs great.
bazdog
26/02/2014 13:24:00
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bazdog I agree. We have missed him. When you look at a player you don't just look at his ability. You also look at the character. We miss both. Crazy idea letting him on loan. COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 13:24:00
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Thanks James, and ditto. But why did you try to pick a fight with Dublin by calling him that naughty name?! lol
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:25:00
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STD; Slim Tim Dim
spu 4 life
26/02/2014 13:29:00
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MAN ON ... I read the first few words of that post and my immediate thought was you could retrieve the ball every time AT shoots ... then you made that comment superfluous. Mind you, I've said it anyway!
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:29:00
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Lol man on. At last a laugh!! James, likewise. Geof, always welcome but bring your wellies and hat!
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 13:29:00
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Tim, sorry James. Doesn't feel nice does it !!!! Lol
Dublin Hotspur
26/02/2014 13:30:00
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Dublin was called Cider yesterday and Tim today, didn't realise he had so many different names :).
Kong
26/02/2014 13:32:00
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James the way this mf have been he was def the player to keep and try to gel his elders together a little as tim cant do it from the side lines or at all.
bazdog
26/02/2014 13:33:00
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Some say Vertonghen's future is up in the air again, So is he giving up football to become an airline pilot?
spu 4 life
26/02/2014 13:34:00
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Some team news for tomorrow - Defoe is not fit to play his final match, Capoue, Rose, Walker, Chiriches and Lamela are out. Sandro's is in the squad.
Kong
26/02/2014 13:34:00
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ghulamville, Moyes is much better employed at Old Trafford. They've not played so badly for a long, long time.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:34:00
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We have also finally got a goal keeper that is 8-10 pts a season for the team by putting this into perspective now and he will prob be of after this one season were are we really ? Hard to fathom really.coys
bazdog
26/02/2014 13:37:00
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For me the lanuage problem on the field may not the biggest area. If players have families who are not settling or a wife who can't adjust the time he used to have to chill out becomes a constant hassel. It takes all sorts imo, Lineaker was a notorious quite lad but worked fantastically well with Gazza. Maybe the argument is the current squad has the same problem as the players who left, namely they play better when they are regularly playing. Other than Chelski who could afford to pay top dollar wages to sit on the bench, imo not many constantly rotating squads has worked.
troffer2
26/02/2014 13:37:00
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We can win this. After all, no Rose or Walker.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:38:00
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LOL, I think we should address each post on ''match Dnipro day'' starting our post's with, Hi Tim;
spu 4 life
26/02/2014 13:38:00
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Geofsour I have no idea ;) COYS!
James1
26/02/2014 13:38:00
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Can't decide which line to go with, so here's both of them!

We should all be called TIM ... and show our support to the cause!! ............................ or not!

Or ... There's enough Tims without two more!
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:38:00
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Rose will be out for another 8 weeks with Hurty Toe, thank you god.
spu 4 life
26/02/2014 13:40:00
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Cider, why do they call you Dublin?
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:41:00
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It has to be a stalemate tomorrow as neither manager knows how to get a win at WHL.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:44:00
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TIM wanted to bring the fun back into training today and for the players to show character, he got the squad together for tomorrow night out on the grass pitches, forming a circle, he said right I will start us off, music Les, You put your left arm in your left arm out In, out, in, out, You shake it all about. You do the Hokey Cokey and you turn around That's what it's all about
spu 4 life
26/02/2014 13:44:00
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spu4life ... No ... he's just looking at teams higher up the table!
Geofspurs
26/02/2014 13:47:00
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Spurs fans should hail the Dnipro dugout with burgers every time we score.
MAN ON!
26/02/2014 13:47:00
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