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No Centre Halves Tomorrow!

Tomorrow night in Portugal, it could be worth taking your boots, as you really might get a game against Benfica. Just as long as you are six food and over…

With Dawson and Chiriches already sidelined with injury, Jan Vertonghen suspended, it seems that Younes Kaboul has also been declared unfit to play, leaving us with perhaps Brad Friedel in line to partner Sandro in the middle of our back four.

When we consider that Capoue and Paulinho are also expected to miss the trip and Dembele hasn`t played in the few weeks, we are also really struggling in the middle, which might mean that we have to look a little harder as we probably have to have Sandro protecting the back four from the defensive midfield role. That leaves us with who to step in?

When we also add that Kyle Walker will be at best a walking wounded player, we have Naughton and Rose to fill the full back roles and perhaps Zeki Fryers to fill one central space, but who else is able to not only step in, but not get forced to play out of position or in the case of a youngster, take massive step up, especially with another rookie alongside you.

Sherwood doesn`t even have the luxury of gambling on anyone, because there isn`t a fit defender available. Does this mean a debut for 18 year old Milos Veljkovic, who has yet to make a senior appearance? Can someone like Nabil Bentaleb step in as an emergency option, should it be considered that Sandro has to play in midfield? If only we had Tom & Jake back at the Lane!

If we assume we have none of our four centre halves or Capoue, Dembele or Paulinho available, who would you pick at the back? Are we better to go with experience, even if it isn`t a position they are comfortable in or we are actually light in that position as well? Is this a game to make a star of someone like Fryers, Veljkovic or Kevin Stewart or would a poor display set their careers backwards?

We have to perhaps hope that we are able to start with Dembele to allow Sandro to at least add experience and physicality to the back line and start with Mousa and Bentaleb in the middle. Is it also fortunate that Spurs are not expected to get beyond this game, due to the two goal cushion of Benfica. That takes the pressure of whoever starts in the Spurs team, but equally another 4 or 5 goal hammering will cause ructions, whoever is in the side. Who would be Tim Sherwood? Then again there is always Brad...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday March 19 2014
Time: 8:57AM

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Can we not call bae back? We are screwed at the back! This will follow onto the league games also! Expect a few more hammering a so! I'm sure this will please all those who want us to finish mid table!
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 09:03:00
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Let's put the kids in. We're 90% out already so it isn't really that big a risk. At least they'll play with some enthusiasm and won't be any worse than the dross we saw at WHL last Thursday. It might give some of the so called 'senior pros' a kick up the backside.
SpuriousLife
19/03/2014 09:04:00
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Obviously jan is available for Sunday and I believe that Kaboul is only a minor problem that should be ok for then as well
oxfordspur
19/03/2014 09:04:00
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This is a chance for someone to shine and make a name for themselves. No pressure, just go out and play and go for the 3-0.
Kong
19/03/2014 09:06:00
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Personally, I've been waiting for a glimpse of Veljkovic, I'm sure Tim will start him, and even if he has a poor game, so long as he's strong mentally, he'll realise that the tie was already lost, and it's not his fault! Would be nice to see him come in and do well
King26
19/03/2014 09:10:00
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Have to go with the youngsters....is stewart fit?
shedboy2
19/03/2014 09:17:00
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OX...6 foot and over you say?. I'm only 5' 10", but you did say bring your boots. I'm well over 6' once I don my knee high leather kinky boots. Any good?.
Cider spurs
19/03/2014 09:20:00
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You are in Cider!
oxfordspur
19/03/2014 09:22:00
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i am not still not made my mind up about harry kane,therefore i would like to see him play regularly up until the end of the season.
ghulamville
19/03/2014 09:23:00
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I wonder even if kaboul is 70-80% fit, we don't rest him for Sunday?
oxfordspur
19/03/2014 09:24:00
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I suppose much would depend on what the injury is. Playing him and seeing him then out for a month plus is a nightmare scenario. if its a knock with no real worry of doing more damage, he might well be risked
oxfordspur
19/03/2014 09:25:00
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Give Fryers a shot at CB, he's played there for Man Utd a few times. Yes he's young, but was it not our inclusion in the Europa that some have said is an ideal learning experience?. As long as he is not fed to the lions IF we lose poorly, then I say, use the squad the way it was/is meant to be. Everybody should be able to come in, if not, why the inclusion in the squad in the first instance?.
Cider spurs
19/03/2014 09:26:00
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Before i receive poor reviews in Ox's post match article, please remember that my cross field punts may not be of the standard of Dawson, only so much a man can do in a pair of kinky boots. Ox, may i suggest a poll, not too sure whether to go for the red 8" heel, or play it safe in the black 6". On the plus side, we wont concede with me doing my laces up, both pairs are zip up. Bonus!.
Cider spurs
19/03/2014 09:32:00
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Have to go along with what ox said, alot depends on whether knocks or injuries. The Liverpool away fixture fills me with dread, and IMO is a fixture that we should be looking at making sure we have the best chance of having players back and fit for. Another heavy defeat there will really be demoralising.
Cider spurs
19/03/2014 09:39:00
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Before the season started, AVB said "We won't start another season with five centre-backs".... We are paying now for that mistake. You CAN have four, if they are all experienced, reliable, fit CBs. Kaboul was out for a year beforehand. You cannot assume that he can come back and be part of that four. Plus Chiriches is new to the country, and therefore an unknown quantity. So in reality, we had just Daws and Vertonghen to depend on. It is no surprise that we have this problem. We must learn that a top four challenge needs an all-round squad that should be able to survive a season. We may as well put youngsters in. At least something may come out of it - they get experience and you can see how much they can hack it. If you move fullbacks or midfielders to CB, then you gain nothing.
TonyRich
19/03/2014 09:40:00
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Cider spurs - agreed that we don't want another smacking up. Citeh twice, Chelsea once, Liverpool once so far.... and lost twice to Arsenal.... We are due to have got just ONE point out of games vs top four. If anyone is wondering how our top 4 challenge fell flat, then there it is! You have no hope of top four by giving them 6 points each head start.
TonyRich
19/03/2014 09:44:00
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Anyone know if we have a buy-back agreement on Caulker? There has been talk of it, and knowing Levy, it wouldn't surprise me if we're set to buy him back for about £500,000!! I know he was far from the finished article with us, but he's impressed me this year (although I have seen about as much of Cardiff as most of you!).
King26
19/03/2014 09:44:00
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I think it's fine to give the youth game time in the group stages against weaker sides. By choice, not at this stage of the competition. If we have to due to injuries and bans, fair enough, but we should be going out to win 3-0 with our strongest squad! We have seen big results from other teams, why not us? A bit of fight as per the Dnipro game please, let's not lie down for this huge game! Fans have payed good money to travel over, and are wishing for more big games in the next rounds. Come on spurs. For the fans!
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 09:45:00
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king I don't recall a buy back option for Caulker but I believe there is an add on c2m if they stay up...
shedboy2
19/03/2014 09:49:00
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King26 - I would like to see Caulker back as well....better the devil you know. I normally say that you should never buy a player back. But I am prepared to put an exception in that rule when the player comes back better. This happened to Kaboul, who was terrible first time around...Now just his injury record is terrible... Caulker joins Cardiff as one of their lesser experienced players and one of our junior players and immediately becomes their captain. That shows the right attitude and approach and also maturity. Plus he is their second top goal scorer! Our centre halves have stopped scoring altogether. He has more open play goals than Soldado!
TonyRich
19/03/2014 09:53:00
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Nothing wrong with starting a season with 4 CB's any more is waste but for one to have chronic issues and to sell a steady reliable one in caulker and to start with only 1 LB - a returning loanee ...we ruined our best CB playing him at LB.... that was moronic...we have stewart who was around the 1st team pre-season, Veljkovic and fryers all for CB...in a cup competition we're already out of....just hope Dim doesn't try and use injuries as an excuse!
shedboy2
19/03/2014 09:57:00
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Shed - cheers for that, not at all surprised Levy had a clause in there! Tony - completely agree with your Kaboul analogy....even if Caulker were not good enough to start every game (and personally, I think given another year, he might be), then having those sort of guys in & around the squad can only be of benefit.
King26
19/03/2014 10:15:00
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how about playing this 11 tomorrow!! Friedel Naughton Lloris Fryers Rose Lennon Eriksen Townsend Chadli Kane Soldado
Sybrian
19/03/2014 10:44:00
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If it's Fryers and Veljkovic then my commiserations to Fryers who's going to be made to look absolutely awful if he's the left of the pairing with Rose as LB.
flipper
19/03/2014 10:55:00
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FRIEDEL, NAUGHTON, VEJLOKOVIC, FRYERS, STEWART, BENTALEB, CHADLI, TOWNSEND, LENNON, ADEBAYOR, SOLDADO. BENCH: Coopsie, TonyRich, King26 Spurious Life, Ox, shedboy2, Guyver. SORTED!
Sebastian Short
19/03/2014 10:59:00
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I can't remember, did the CL money lead to bolstering squad issues last time?
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 11:03:00
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Fryers & Capoue - one young talent who can play CB & another international. NOT - for me - Two youngsters.
Windlespur
19/03/2014 11:12:00
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Off topic, but as I'm rarely on here I thought I'd throw this into the mix anyway, little tinker that I am!

Our league record against the current top 4 reads: P7, W0, D1, L6, F2, A23. liverpoo at Anfield is the last game in the series.

Is this the worst ever in the last 10 years or so? Probably & I certainly don't understand how or why this sorry state of affairs has come about this season in particular. Its probably a combination of errors from top to bottom & someone somewhere at Spurs needs to get a grip - pronto. Just a small hint, our last period of relative league success came during a time of managerial stability under HR. He lasted 4 years & got us CL for the 1st time, before him it was Venners, also 4 years with an FA Cup & finally before him Burkinshaw with 8 years & several trophies. There has to be a connection between stability of manager/coach with success surely? Doesn't the success of those 3 men who followed the great Billy Nick say something? Are you listening Danny?

Spuds-U-Like
19/03/2014 11:19:00
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brad surely lol
SpursWho
19/03/2014 11:20:00
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Seb- cant see any of your subs playing well for Tim, esp coopsie lol
topspur53
19/03/2014 11:54:00
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Sebastian Short. Can I play please?
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 12:24:00
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Basically, we're buggered!
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 12:33:00
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I wasn't aware we had any centre halves playing since December. It has been poor. Perhaps the kids can cobble something together. Where is Hudd when you need him? COYS
peterballb
19/03/2014 12:36:00
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i'd say play our best team !!! after all if we win this competition we are in champions league next year !! COYS
South L/Derry Spurs
19/03/2014 12:43:00
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Dead rudder game, do we really care anymore?? Our season is as good as over, unless we really want to fight for a place in the wooden spoon EL? Could be better to miss out this term and maybe concentrate on the domestic cups and try and bring some silverware back to WHL next season...........COYS
WestStandEnclosure
19/03/2014 12:45:00
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LOL obviously jestin regarding the champions league, i think it has finally sunk in to everyone on this site now that its next season's winners :)
South L/Derry Spurs
19/03/2014 12:45:00
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South L/Derry Spurs... That's if you win it next year.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 12:54:00
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To all those Spurs fans travelling to Lisbon tomorrow, don't bother. The wooden spoon is already lost and not worth your time and effort, apparently.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 12:57:00
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WestStandEnclosure..Will you be watching the game tomorrow? If so, why?
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 12:58:00
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Sherwood play Bentaleb out of position? I should fecking coco!! He's probably the only player in the whole squad, apart from Lloris & Friedel, who hasn't been made to play out of position. As for Kaboul, Relax people, the report says he has a knock not a serious injury. Its probably a fatigue related injury as he's just played a series of games for quite a while. Lets just wait for official word then react.

As everyone on here knows, I'm one of the old fashioned morons that actually want's us to win this fecking competition, what a saddo I am!! Well, despite me wanting us to win this competition, our current situation (I don't think I need to go into any depth, you know what I'm on about) makes me think we simply aren't capable. With all of the best will in the world, do any of you REALLY believe we have even the slightest of chances tomorrow night? What, you hoping to beat Benfica 3-0 or 4-1??!! Get real !! I'm sorry but, in my opinion, there's no point of 'going for it' at all. I would rather we conserve what little energy we have left for Liverpool, so hopefully we're not humiliated again!

The season, again, in my opinion, is a write-off, so lets just get to the end of this season without further embarrassment, (hopefully) get in a proper manager, rather than one from a box of fecking Corn-Flakes, like we have now, and hope for a better assault on every front next season.

Apologies for the absolute lack of positivity, but my feelings are of no surprise to anyone on here.
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:04:00
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Oh, and please remember, that post is/was based upon us seemingly having very few proper defensive options. Seriously, we could be looking at a Naughton, Walker, Fryers, Rose backline. 3-0 or 4-1 in our favour?
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:08:00
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We all, well mostly, hope for the best. Unfortunately, it's hope that kills you!
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:09:00
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http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fc/fc2fca5cc8833d35c92822a6af386914480a4e7c2411a6329d9742eb6bc89110.jpg
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:09:00
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Sussed it, put old man Friedel in goal, and FINALLY let Lloris play as the sweeper he longs to be. Feck it, put Gomes alongside him, there's your central pairing!!
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:11:00
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Our best RB at RB, our best LB at LB. So, Naughton, Gomes, Lloris, Fryers - We win 4-0 and Sherwood gets a blozza off Bentaleb, again!!
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:12:00
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MAN ON! I think everyone traveling to lisburn had booked up along time b4 last weeks shambles, so given the choice on Last friday I wonder how many would like a full refund on the trip?? As for whether I watch the game tomorrow I will toss a coin........much better odds then we have now left ourselves to turn this dead tie around!! COYS
WestStandEnclosure
19/03/2014 13:14:00
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WestStandEnclosure... That's true about the fans but it's not the point I'm making. Does TS say to the team tomorrow: Hey lads don't bother trying too hard, we have no chance? It's football and it's unpredictable. Benfica could be awful on the night and, we are more than capable of taking advantage of that.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 13:19:00
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coopsieyid... Hey, it could work!
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 13:20:00
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For those of you who actually give a sheit, this is GREAT NEWS, so PLEASE take a look!!

http://instagram.com/p/lr55CFKon0/#

"Erik #Lamela por un lugar en el mundial #todoonada"

I think the translation is "Lamela for the World Cup".... Like I said, take a look, it's actually a video of him working pretty hard.
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 13:20:00
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this is so funny that I can't be serious about it. That being said let's play two full backs. 3 defensive midfielders 2 wingers 2 midfielders and 1 striker and have fun. lol. Hopefully we won't lose 5-0.
logos8
19/03/2014 13:24:00
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There's always Ledley... Get yer kit on son, it's an emergency.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 13:34:00
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Coopsie - Lamela's back must be ok now going by that work out.
Kong
19/03/2014 13:34:00
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In fairness I don't think the lack of CHs is anything to lose any sleep over. It might affect the result in this second leg, but the tie has already been donated by the abysmal performance by us, and the result at WHL in the first leg. In short it is a lost cause, the hope being that the score in this game doesn't get embarrassing.
Frank
19/03/2014 13:45:00
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Frank: Needing 3 clear goals in 90 minutes is never a lot cause, surely. I know I'm clutching at straws but I really don't want the players to be thinking it's over, whoever gets to play.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 13:49:00
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*lost*
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 13:50:00
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Agree that it is very unlikely given morale & tactics at our club, first leg & injuries - however, I hope that the team are not giving up. Why - because they can only win ONE thing this season, so surely they should be trying 110%, whoever plays. Against Dnipro we had a left back at left back (Fruyers) & right back at right back (Naughton) & we looked far better defensively - funny that. Lets go at em from the start, unleash pace & attack - Eriksen in the hole, pace on the wings and at least have a go. COYS
Windlespur
19/03/2014 13:52:00
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The players cannot enter this match thinking its over, yes it will be very difficult to turn this around but the fans want to see a good go and a proper effort, anything less and I will be very disappointed.
Kong
19/03/2014 13:56:00
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The Younis Kaboul situation is now critical, as good a player that he is when fit, unfortunately he rarely if ever is. The best player in the world is useless whilst in the treatment room, or sat at the back of the bench unavailable due to injury. He is frankly a waste of a squad number, and serious consideration must be given to not offering him a new deal as his contract runs down. He is presumably one of the higher earners, and we are not getting a return on that investment, we seem to be approaching another Ledley King scenario, but the difference is that Kaboul is not a man and boy Spurs legend, with a history of outstanding service to the club. I would love to see the figures for games played, against total games required, since his return from Portsmouth, I think the figures would be frightening. The time for sentiment is over, the time for objective assessment is now overdue.
Frank
19/03/2014 14:00:00
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Good posts kong and windlespur!
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 14:00:00
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I will be watching, I will be hoping, that by some miracle we can turn this around and progress, Why? Because it's my team and I've supported them through thick and thin before. If we don't, then I can do nothing about it and just have to move on to the next game. The year we got relegated from the old Div 1 into Div 2 I never missed a home game and we just got back on goal difference finishing 3rd, that was close. When you look back, letting Caulker go may well have been a mistake ''we dont need 5 CB'' Oh yes we do, one gets injured common place at our club X that by how ever many, one gets suspended and your down to 2, having just the 4. Maybe the 7 day window will come into effect after thursday, be interesting to see how the results go, I don't think it will make any difference, we have not been playing well, we huffed and puffed on sunday but still lost, don't call that ''played well'' when you lose.
spu 4 life
19/03/2014 14:24:00
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Spu, i don't anticipate a change in the way we play if we go back to once a week football! The argument and buck will stop there! We have had several bad matches, granted some with a positive result, with a 7 day or longer break throughout the season! Come on spurs, for the fans!!
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 15:07:00
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And Spurs fans still believe we have the squad for the Europa?
Proof is in the pudding.The club needs to relieve some pressure,being in this pointless cup just adds more that it could really do without.
Fanny adams
19/03/2014 15:52:00
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Lloris, I'll be so pleased to see you follow in the footsteps of the great, match fixing conspirator Bruce-wobbly legs-the cheat-Grobballar. Now that's what you can call GLORY! HALLELUYAH!
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 16:26:00
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frank-i think the time has come to say goodbye to kaboul,a big part of being a sportsman is to remain fit and he cant do that
ghulamville
19/03/2014 16:36:00
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Get your laughing gear round this.... Training with LVG at Ajax... This is an oldie, but there are some combination moves going on there that we could bloody do with!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL0J-YtOxDo

Some FC Breukelen youths (may 2013)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPvfORVfJN0

The Oranje..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97YPjzgqD3s

Growling command and motivation (my favourite)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIotZsi-LGE

Our players need to be growled at. I just have a gut feeling that he would really sort us out; is exactly what we need, is strong, amazingly experienced, good winning track record, overall. Perfect timing for us in our current state.. Also, why not bring in someone like Edgar Davids as his number 2? Loved by the supporters, respected by the players, what's not to like? Perfect to learn from LVG and then take over in a few years when LVG wants to retire.

Or we could go for the consistent Moyes, if Utd do sack him. Did you know, last season, his Everton team had 48 points from 29 games, having scored 46 and conceded 35. His United team this season, 48 points from 29 games, having scored 46 goals and conceded 34. Now THAT is consistency ;-)
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 17:55:00
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Is Davids still a player/manager for... ?
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 18:01:00
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Bit on the new stadium, not much, Just an updated pic of the site from the official websitesite/Skyscrapercity:-

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uploadedImages/Shared_Assets/Images/News_images/SEASON_13-14/September_2013/UTC/utc_730b.jpg?n=4401&targetTypeID=HighResNewsImage
coopsieyid
19/03/2014 18:04:00
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Barnet of course, and he just resigned...
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 18:15:00
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in regards to the 6' is that tall or around ?
totuae
19/03/2014 19:00:00
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Kaboul, ade, paulinho, walker have not travelled. Ironic that our line up tomorrow should resemble something like what we should have played all along at the start of this competition.
Kong
19/03/2014 19:58:00
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Kong, Apparently Lloris has also stayed at home.
MAN ON!
19/03/2014 20:10:00
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Can we score 3 or more goals against Benfica? Of course we can we're Spurs, I predict Benfica 2-5 Tottenham; one of the greatest come backs ever.
MrSpurs
19/03/2014 20:24:00
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As you can most likely see Utd all square at HT 2-0, Agg 2-2, Moyes needs to get his utd team and go on and win this, keeping his job. Oh shi7 forgot to switch the sound down and put sub-titles on got Jamie whilst drinking a glass of water Carragher talking, what did he say preperation or penetration, both sounded the same, oh no it was Robin Van Perspiration
spu 4 life
19/03/2014 20:41:00
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Utd are back in it! So can we be!!! COYS
Dublin Hotspur
19/03/2014 20:48:00
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Yes Man Utd are winning come on Utd; win to paper over those cracks!!!
MrSpurs
19/03/2014 21:14:00
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