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Point the Way Daniel!

Football fans love to play the blame game. I actually think that we prefer having things to moan about than we do when all is looking good.

Of course things being good are all relative, depending on your size, status and history, but am I alone in believing that football fans wherever they are and whoever they support love to moan and that winning is in reality quite boring after a while. How can we do better than a manager that wins every game and every competition? It must be absolute hell being a Bayern Munich fan in recent times…

What I do believe is vital for any club that doesn`t win every week is to at least have a plan. Even if that strategy doesn`t always work 100%. What is most definitely needed now at Spurs is to have a cunning plan and build on it, something that Daniel Levy, Joe lewis or whoever, has failed to do, during their time with the club.

There are positives, in that our Academy system seems to be thriving, but is there a real intention to build these players into senior stars or just to sell to finance the structure and hope that the occasional diamond pops up? There is of course the realisation that playing youngsters is a long term strategy and rarely brings silverware in the short term. It is also a likely kiss of death to a manager tasked with playing kids, because kids are inconsistent and inconsistency leads to managers losing their jobs, unless directors and fans are all signing from the same hymn sheet.

So do our board have that cunning plan and do they have the balls to stick with it when things get difficult, as they surely will? History tells us that the boys from Enic will chop and change when things get tough and not only change the manager, but usually the whole plan and system, whether bits are working or not. Usually with the sacking of a manager, follows the majority of the back room, even going down to the academy, as managers like their own men in key positions. This is supposed to be one benefit of having a Sporting Director, but if he is also removed with a manager, it becomes an even bigger mess.

This isn`t an anti or pro Sherwood or anyone else article, but just an observation that as a club we need to have a working plan that is with us for the next five years and beyond. Players, managers and even owners come and go, but that is made so much easier if there is a settled structure in place and harmony behind the public faces. Sack Sherwood and you probably lose Ramsey, Ferdinand and perhaps others, which isn`t great for our U-21s and below. Could these guys happily slip back into their former roles? That would be very nice in my opinion, just as long as all parties are happy and the structure is set up and the club are brave and insightful enough to look beyond the now.

The man who is surely charged with setting this up and then sticking with is, is of course Daniel Levy, whether pushed or pulled by Joe Lewis or not. Short term fixes have failed or at least failed to be followed through and I can see all the blame pointed firmly at Enic, should we mess up again, and perhaps that blame should have been put at their door some time ago. Though getting the right man or men isn`t always that easy, there are instant fixes that can at least give them time. Be honest with the fans and media and tell them the thinking. Are we looking to go with youth, buy our way to success and who and how are we making decisions? The club owes it to the fans to be honest and even if we have to step out of the top six to return stronger, then so be it, just as long as everyones knows the plan and direction...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday April 1 2014

Time: 5:00AM

Your Comments

first one up this morning...
jerkinmahjurgen
Good article Ox ... Consistency is the key. If we continue to chop and change as we have done in recent years we will never move forward, but remain forever in a state of transition. We need to back a manager for 3 or 4 years. That may mean we take a step backwards for a season or two but at least we’ll be following a plan instead of continual knee-jerk reactions every time things look like going pear-shaped.
Geofspurs
Said it before, I'll say it again. We need to secure a good manager, give him time (something that is seldom afforded in the football world). Within reason financially allow him to have sole control over all players he needs or wants, and the biggest step forward this club can make IMO, is to stop this idiotic thought process that we are a top 4 club and anything less is a failure.

Yes, we need objectives, but let's have realistic objectives. "I want a Porsche, but I'm only prepared to pay Ford Fiesta money." You will never get the Porsche. Lose the delusions of grandeur, accept our position for where we are, we may just find that everything becomes a little more relaxed as opposed to the "I want it all, and I want it now" scenario continually playing out. It would allow for a sensible, less pressured attempt at improvement, which in turn, given time, will hopefully give a better foundation for building to where we aspire to be.

I believe that because of all the past cock ups, this is why the pressure is so immense on the club now. They know, that they have been afforded time, and often failed to pounce when opportunities have presented themselves, the club have created this pressure, but they have now passed this over to the managers they employ as a result of their shortcomings. Take a step back once more, as opposed to the shambles at present. Create a plan, a vision to adhere to. Then, stick to it.
Cider spurs
I second that, Cider.
Geofspurs
Great article Ox, actually one of the best I've seen on here lately. Bravo mate...hope Levy and even Baldini, to some extent, read this. Granted I 'hate' the great unwashed for obvious reasons...but I can't wait to have you guys actually trump those Woolwich sc*mbags and consistently finish ahead of them. Honestly.
HGH Magic
Good post Ox. We certainly need a manager who has a vision. Build from the bottom up. To some extent we have with the youth set up with the help of the state of the art training facility. AVB had a vision but never got to see it come to fruition. Let's hope we can bring someone in who has a plan which will benefit Spurs for years to come. COYS!
James1
Given the size of our club bringing through players from the academy is actually critical. One thing Sherwood has shown with playing Bentalab, at 19 remember, is the possibilities if you have a bit of courage. Football must be almost unique in that when you lose a manager you usually lose all the key support staff, crazy if they are doing a good job. Maybe the return of Ian Holloway is a sign Levy has recognised this problem and is trying to do something about it. The major difficulty we have is Levy's inability to pick the right manager. I did see a suggestion that someone like Glenn Hoddle should be made the DOF and that job delegated to him, radical but who knows, it might work.
jod
Sherwood is still in charge..... Unfortunately that's not an April fools!!
Kong
Lol Kong. Jod DOF would suit Hoddle, but I still think he wants to manage Spurs or England..all a pipe dream but if he decided to retire as manager I'd be more than happy to see GH as DOF. COYS!
James1
LEVY/LEWIS/ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
Having just had a read of this, alot of it makes sense, rather then post the link, posted the article; PART ONE; Tottenham: White Hart Change Written by @NickBarronJNR The eighteen month contract given to Tim Sherwood was a smart move by Spurs. The tag of ‘Interim Manager’ is avoided and Tottenham won’t be concerned about a substantial pay-off should it not quite work out. Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis are smart enough to know that things weren’t going to be remedied overnight following the departure of AVB. The shackles placed on the team needed removing and the players confidence had to be lifted. Several months on from Tim Sherwood’s appointment and nearly all of the problems are still there for everybody to see; defensive frailties, lack of direction when in possession, fractured confidence and a notable lack of on-field leadership. I really wanted the appointment of Tim Sherwood to work out – a young British coach to lead the team in its battle against the Premier Leagues big-guns. However, you can almost hear the axe being sharpened in Daniel Levy’s office as the inevitable sacking of Tim Sherwood looms. Louis Van Gaal is publicly applying for the position and is odds-on to be appointed after the Netherlands complete their World Cup journey. I’ve laid out what I would address if the keys to the manager’s office at N17 were handed to me. Players, coaching staff, medical department and recruitment policy all get a dose of change.
spu 4 life
PART TWO;COACHING STAFF The work undertaken by Steffen Freund with the youth sides of the German national team make him stand out as a perfect candidate for a role within a club containing several young first team players. His time spent as a player at White Hart Lane gives him an inside knowledge of the club enviable to many. Chris Ramsey has been with the club a long time, and with respect, is almost used to the constant disappointments over the last few years. Les Ferdinand is close to Sherwood, and I doubt he would continue if his friend was shown the door. Les also appears to have an ego, and I often wonder whether that has an effect on the players respecting him. Both would go to make room for coaches who can fill specific roles. The outspoken, but renown, Raymond Verheijen is a fitness and conditioning specialist who I would employ in a heartbeat. This season alone, Tottenham have struggled with injuries. At one point, Spurs were without Paulinho, Michael Dawson, Erik Lamela, Jan Vertonghen, Emmanuel Adebayor, Younnes Kaboul, Kyle Walker and Danny Rose. This tells me that there are fundamental issues with the fitness and medical departments within the club. Raymond’s expertise would be vital in re-shaping the medical side of Tottenham. Raymond has worked with Chelsea, Barcelona, Manchester City and the national teams of Holland, South Korea and Russia – all with great success. Craig Bellamy used Raymond as his personal conditioner to help him through a period littered with injuries. Another player who sought his advice and ability was Bayern Munich’s Arjen Robben. Specializing in pre-season work and maintaining the conditioning of players through a season, Raymond is an expert and at the very top of his field. His knowledge would be invaluable and pivotal in keeping Tottenham’s key players fit and fresh. Spurs defensive frailties have been highlighted time and time again. This season alone in the Premier League against Arsenal, Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool – Tottenham have conceded thirty goals, an average of three a game. That record isn’t going to get you into the top four. There needs to be a member of staff whose speciality is defending and can work with individuals and the team. After Brendan Rodgers was appointed Liverpool manager, he spent time seeking out a sports psychologist to change the mind-set of the clubs players and staff. Rodgers elected to appoint Dr Steve Peters who had been an integral part of Team GB’s success at the London Olympics. Bradley Wiggins also worked with Dr Peters during the build-up and throughout his winning of the Tour de France. One comment made regarding Dr Steve Peters came from British Cycling supremo Sir Dave Brailsford when asked about Dr Peters work; “Dr Steve Peters is the best appointment I ever made” Ten words, that was it. Such has been his success, Team GB’s track and field athletes will be using Dr Peters for the 2016 Olympics in Rio. Tottenham’s struggles against their closest rivals, plus many other games against the League’s smaller clubs leads me to the conclusion that there has to be a change in mentality, and outside help is needed. There is no doubting the quality available within Tottenham’s squad, but this quality needs fine-tuning to believe they can compete with the very best in the Premier League. A thorough search for somebody befitting this role is vital, as Liverpool have proven with their progress.
spu 4 life
PART THREE; PLAYERS The first team squad contains twenty-six players. This does not include Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Lewis Holtby, Tom Carroll, Jake Livermore and Iago Falque who are all out on loan. The return of these players upon the seasons conclusion takes the squad to an enormous thirty-one. Elite athletes are notably difficult to manage, and with so many players not getting the game time they crave, problems can surface and negatives attitudes have an effect on others. The squad needs trimming down with fringe players and those who have gotten comfortable needing to be moved on. Hueurelho Gomes is above being a third choice goalkeeper, he also collects a considerable wage which could be better spent elsewhere. Aaron Lennon has become a part of the furniture at Spurs and his performances have been painful to say the least. A fresh start elsewhere for Lennon would be good for both player and club. Two error prone defenders we have are Michael Dawson and Kyle Naughton. Dawson has a great mentality, but his constant poor positioning costs Spurs dearly. Naughton plays with a carefree attitude and repeatedly gifts errors to the opposition. Even playing as an understudy to Kyle Walker, Naughton is out of his depth. Assou-Ekotto has confessed to football not being his passion, merely a job to him. That may sit well with a club whose ambitions are not the same as Spurs, but when a club is trying to compete at the top you need every player to be fully committed. There’s no room for a player with no drive to win. Lewis Holtby is a nice and technically gifted player, yet he doesn’t possess the same quality as Eriksen and is another who could quickly become unhappy. I don’t believe he is a trouble maker, more of a player Spurs can afford to let go. Tom Carroll and Iago Falque have spent a lot of time out on loan and will struggle to dislodge several current players. My perception is they would not be able to stand up to the physical rigors of the Premier League. With those eight players leaving, the squad is reduced to twenty-three and becomes more manageable. Realistic offers for Etienne Capoue and Gylfi Sigurdsson would be considered and that would be for a simple reason. With these departures, room would be made for the arrival of British players. The core of Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea is made up of British players which have helped in many circumstances. If you look at teams currently challenging for the Premier League title, or the winners since its birth, you will see a core of homegrown players: Arsenal: Tony Adams, Sol Campbell, Ray Parlour, David Seaman, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown. Chelsea: John Terry, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Frank Lampard, Gary Cahill, Damien Duff. Liverpool: Steven Gerrard, Joe Allen, Jordan Henderson, Glen Johnson, Daniel Sturridge, Raheem Sterling, Jon Flanagan. Manchester City: Joe Hart, Joleon Lescott, Gareth Barry, James Milner. Manchester United: Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Gary Neville, Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher. Rightly or wrongly, British talent comes at a premium rate. Tottenham need to add some British steel to play alongside its continental talent. Rumors constantly circle that James Milner is available for the right price due to lack of playing time. A known fact is Joleon Lescott’s contract expires come the season end – he may not be the best defender the league has seen, but he is superior to Michael Dawson and understands what’s required to win a Premier League title. One thing Spurs lack are winners – James Milner and Joleon Lescott would add experience, quality, and a winners instinct and all for money that isn’t out of this world. Dundee United have several good young players amongst their first team, Ryan Gauld is one of them and at eighteen years old has the world at his feet. A player with attacking flair, but has also been exposed to the over-zealous tackling and treatment of the Scottish game. He’s a tough young character who reminds me of Gareth Bale.
spu 4 life
PART FOUR; CLUB POLICY The playing squad is not in need of another hundred million pound makeover. The biggest changes need to take place back-of-house. The mess which came about last summer after signing players from Italy, Spain, Romania, Holland, Brazil and France was plain to see. Having all these players adapt physically and mentally both on and off the field has been a catastrophe. The player liaison officer’s feet would not of been able to move fast enough to deal with the demands and needs of seven players and their families. A conversation in the Spurs boardroom between AVB, Franco Baldini and Daniel Levy towards the end of AVB’s tenure must have been chaotic. AVB blaming Baldini for buying players he didn’t want…Baldini blaming AVB for not being able to coach top players…Levy accusing Baldini of buying the wrong players and paying too much…AVB blaming Levy for not letting him buy the players he wanted. Where does it end? It should end with Franco Baldini being relieved of his duties and the manager and his scouting team reporting to Daniel Levy with which players he wants each transfer window. The manager becomes accountable for what his signings are doing and the chairman accountable for money spent. Secretly, I hope Spurs lose one or two more games before the season ends, therefor not qualifying for the Europa League. A season concentrating solely on the Premier League and domestic cups with a smaller and more manageable squad, led by staff with dedicated roles would be beneficial. Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis are not shy when it comes to making big decisions. Its evolution, not revolution, which should be at the heart of these decisions.
spu 4 life
Another well written article Ox. I personally didn't like the values displayed by HR before he arrived at the club but as willing to support him while he was doing well with the team as the direction for the club was clear to see. Didn't really want him gone but willingly said farewell.
Same with AVB - didn't think much of the guy - saw him as a cast off from scum bridge but for the sake of achieving some sort of consistency and success for the club supported the project.
Yet at the slightest hiccup we get rid of the 'vision' because not playing the 'spurs way'.
In come TS - willing to support - but that was thrown out by me after the colossal mistake by him after Chelski.... a total misfit for the required skill set!

Hardly any mention of the 'spurs way' these days yet that's the reason for the demise of 'the project' we were all sold and bought only two years hence! All in all I think we the fans have more blame to give ourselves than we have done... our willingness to get shot of someone at the wink of an eye. Majority of the blame lies at the door of Daniel Levy. Too many things have taken place under his regime.

So, perhaps we need to adjust our expectations or strive totally for that ultimate goal of ours! I don't think there is any room for both now. I, of course, opt for the latter.
Highgatespur
spu 4 life.. Just read this and you've posted it all yourself. I was going to put up a link. No need. I agree about having a core of British players.
MAN ON!
A very well thought and constructed piece to share Spu 4 Life... will chew over and probably comment on aspects ... thanks for this Spu.
Highgatespur
What ever the article, the topic is the same; I mentioned before regarding our medical staff, how long has Eric Lamela had his back injury, his 22 years old, not 92, can someone recall the first mention and date of this injury? Coaching Staff was Les Ferdinand not our striker coach under Arry, everything that could go wrong has. Steffen once our number two, not is a number two, is now the sketch artist on match days, when does his gallery open? A clean sweep is required, send the lot packing Manager, Coaching Staff, Medical Team.
spu 4 life
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/louis-van-gaal-not-looking-to-make-sweeping-changes-if-he-takes-over-at-tottenham-9227372.html
spu 4 life
thanks for the link spu4life. nice one
logos8
food link spu - something positive - just wrap it up Levy. The wait time is getting poisonous!
Highgatespur
It's not yet official but it seems that TS has been fired. Freund is to take over for the remaining 6 matches and LVG will be confirmed as the man to take charge after the World cup.
MAN ON!
Well it was on the cards I suppose. Good luck TS>...
MAN ON!
spu4 life - a painful read.
HGH Magic
Hello hoptopbunty, been a long time, nice of you to join us on April fool's day.
Kong
Man On - Where did you hear this or is it part of April fool's?
Kong
HGH Magic who asked you to read it twa7
spu 4 life
Where did you hear that man on?
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, be prepared to start dancing naked if true or start crying if not :).
Kong
Hiya tophobunty is BACK! Back of the net strrrikerrrrrr! Wither @darkenvai even? LOLO...
HGH Magic
Make the most of it then hoptopbunty before you vanish.
Kong
It's on the grapevine..... Should be announced later this afternoon. I don't know if that's good or bad.....
MAN ON!
Dublin, look at the date
Highgatespur
The players put together a party at training today to celebrate ''Tim Sherwood day'' as they said it is April 1st.
spu 4 life
Thanks for the info hoptopbunty, not sure whether to be happy or not now. What a mess of a season.
Kong
Not sure if he has resigned or been pushed.. So, sorry to jump the gun.
MAN ON!
spu4, I know as an ill-trained kid social civility is beyond you. So you stand forgiven and tolerated for your twa7 plonker show of shame.
HGH Magic
Hey tops. All well I hope mate! I hope this is true lads! Just planning my day now to celebrate! And dance naked around the house of course! Hope it's not an April fool, or I will look like one!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Get yer kits off! It's a lovely day! Or put them on......
MAN ON!
Topho, where did you hop up from?
MAN ON!
I don't think Van Gaal is gonna be happy about this being leaked.
MAN ON!
Might be wrong about LVG.... Told it's someone closer to home.... ???
MAN ON!
Nice one spu4life!!!
Highgatespur
lets get who we should have replaced harry with before he went to Real Madrid. ANCELOTTI
topspur53
I don't think it's an april fools day thing. It looks to be the real deal.. I'm gonna stupid if it is...
MAN ON!
*look Stupid*
MAN ON!
Sad as would have been great if Tim worked out, but a stupid appointment from day 1 and a disaster for me from day 1 (West Ham & Arsenal Cup exits etc). Good Luck Tim, but Please BE TRUE - even last 6 games are important to start rebuilding something, anything and make a few want to stay. LVG for me - team ethic (Sorry Jan - you may be the first one out with your attitude).
Windlespur
It might wake Jan up a bit.....
MAN ON!
I can come straight now. Never liked the upstart from his playing days. Tim in just 4 months has ruined our season. Can we now finish it with some pride please Spurs...
MAN ON!
Windlespur - JV is getting it plenty at the moment - he's far the most effective defender and exceptionally talented player in our team. He's been messed around so much!!! A saint would have had difficulty with what's been expected of him... sorry to buck the trend.
Highgatespur
Nothing is official yet, am looking at the official site waiting for it to change.
Kong
Are you sure this isn't an April Fool's wind-up? The only thing that makes me think it might be true is that the SpursOfficial twitter account posted that he had been sacked at 10pm on Sunday night only for it then to be removed 90 seconds later. I'm not convinced by this story yet...
SpuriousLife
Twitter is not having a meltdown so not sure what is going on.
Kong
hoptopbunty..By the way, was it you that reported me for abuse?
MAN ON!
hoptopbunty, was you told who the new manager will be?
Kong
If it's true it's a total car crash of a season for our players and in the eyes of anyone looking in from the outside! Who would have imagined all this when we started this season! I think lamela had the right IDE! Stay out of the limelight til everything is mended! What a relieve to be rid of Tim Sherwood though! One chapter left in this seat of the pants novel!
Dublin Hotspur
Maybe lamela will be the new manager, that way we will get to see him.
Kong
hoptopbunty, Stiffone Friend is a great name for a manager :)
Kong
Funny thing is, if Tim has gone, he will need to get his badges now to manage elsewhere! He would likely be running a league 2 team or worse, and certainly won't have his pick of players, he should have embraced what he had with us. But no, and that was his downfall! As well as his behaviour of course!

bloody hell man on! Never anticipated you saying that about our upstart in charge, or has your account been skimmed by someone like me???
Dublin Hotspur
I wish it wasn't April Fool's as a part of me is thinking this is a wind up.
Kong
Out of routine day-to-day rigors of a competitive football league, never mind the uber competitive Premier League, for all of 3+ years; naïve to the Premier League and possibly 'match-rusty' and senile at 62, 63 after the World Cup; will Louis Van Gaal be sharp enough for the monumental squad repair works required @thfc, especially in the face of the mostly ludicrous demands and undue delusory demands of the unwashed Spuds faithful? Uhmm, interesting tasty chicken times ahead...it must be said I love 'em washed, curry-seasoned, peppered and deep-fried though ;) COYS lol
HGH Magic
SpuriousLife - I'm with you - he won't go that easy... I see Carlos is being talked - how about this Carlos with Bale and Modders bak at the Lane!
Highgatespur
I feel the same kong! Only that topho reapperared at the same time as man on stated it makes me comfortable with it!
Dublin Hotspur
If we don’t get into the EL next season we won’t need a big squad because we’ll never be able to keep any decent players happy unless they’re playing.
Geofspurs
Hopefully we will find out soon Dublin.
Kong
Dublin, wtf cares - he can take a long jump into the abyss ... but he'll be at WHL on Monday I fear!!!
Highgatespur
Highgate - I'd take Ancelotti if he becomes available but I'm not sure he'll leave Madrid. IF (note the capital letters) Sherwood has been pushed today then it makes me think that we've done it so we can tie up LVG publicly and quickly before anyone else in Russia or beyond try to gazump us on him.
SpuriousLife
SpuriousLife would love it Bale Modders, VdV return - ah bliss!!! Would like anyone with experienced and previous top level success - it's a great squad to work with!

Nothing goes so smoothly at Spurs - does it ?
Highgatespur
Wind up?
taniban
I'm with you highgate! Just he won't get his players if he ever does get another job! Wasn't that his big excuse??
Dublin Hotspur
Now I'm thinking wind up! Man on you evil man! Oh what an emotional rollercoaster!
Dublin Hotspur
Sorry people ... that last post was on the wrong thread. Guess you all figured that out!
Geofspurs
Well if it is a wind up, I hope DL is reading and can see our premature celebrations, and act for the fans appropriately!
Dublin Hotspur
Come on guys .... admit it. You were already starting to miss TS, were you not?! :-)
Geofspurs
Dublin - lost track of all the excuses .... maybe the Spurs players saw through him when he was spying in on AVB - never trust a gooner when it comes to Spurs.... he's heading towards abyss I say - abyss!!!
Highgatespur
Geofspurs, like a hole in the head, sir, like a hole in the head!
Highgatespur
Geof, no I don't miss him and if he ever gets a wriggle on and gets out of dodge I would be finishing up and go celebrating! ;)
Dublin Hotspur
forget LVG, id like to see Ancelotti at lane next season, i backed TS but players didnt so he goes, shame it has come to this, "player power" COYS
123spurs
Wenger Anyone ; )
hudderspur
Fed up with all the L'arse connections - new pastures please!!!
Highgatespur
lol hudd
123spurs
That is true hoptopbunty, the club like to be funny and make us the joke, appropriate for April fool's.
Kong
the players attitude is a disgrace no matter who is in charge, but if they dont like the man in charge, they wont perform, just like any other job, and yet the fans suffer, see the everton game the players gave all for the team and the manager, but we have internationals who dont give a sh it about club or fans....PL is a stepping stone to get noticed etc cause of SKY
123spurs
we have been a laughing stock for years,,,,remember when we were mid table and fightening relagation, now we have got EL and CL and and ppl still moan. i like a good gravy but if its not right your gonna run into trouble
123spurs
true hop, and it takes a popular interational like verts to start it off. he was in PL team of the year before but this season he would be in the worst 11, shame
123spurs
agree hop, like i said compare our team of big internationals..compared to everton unknown internationals, verts out or rot in reserves
123spurs
This may help get a view of the future, and Levy's next attempt at getting it right (apologies for not reading responses & possibly repeating somebody else's pos. Just popped on quickly to share my last bit of info before getting chopped up tomorrow...............

http://hotspurhq.com/2014/04/01/tottenham-recruit-head-coaches-rotating-two-month-trial/

Tottenham To Recruit Head Coaches On Rotating Two-Month Trial

Tuesday 1 April 2014

Tottenham are to announce “fair and open” competition to recruit head coaches on a rotating two month trial for 2014-15.

Sources close to Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis say that the Press conference called for 11.55am today will be revealing a radical new plan for the future management of the team. There have been a number of world class coaches who have made it clear that they would like the opportunity to manage in the Premier League and this time Daniel Levy is determined to get the long term appointment right.

With that in mind, he will be inviting them to apply to manage the team for two months at a time each throughout 2014-15, as one final season of transition. Levy has apparently prepared a letter of explanation for fans, much as he did on the recruitment of Harry Redknapp when he explained that he realised he had got it wrong going for the continental approach and that he would be sticking to traditional English management in future.

Tim Sherwood will be automatically included in the competition as will other eager candidates without the appropriate qualifications. It is hoped that at least one woman will apply for one of the temporary positions. They will all however be required to obtain the “A” licence if they win the competition for the long term appointment from 2015/16.

Remuneration for the temporary posts will be well in excess of the Premiership average and big names such as Carlo Ancelotti, Louis van Gaal, Sven Goran Erikssen and Glenn Hoddle and Paulo Di Canio are all said to have expressed an interest.

Daniel Levy is quoted as saying that it is crucial that we get the next appointment right and he has found over the years that two months is plenty of time for him to be able to decide the ability of a manager to bring long term success. Former Arsenal managers and route one merchants need not apply.

There is rumoured to be a TV documentary series planned to run throughout the summer where the candidates will appear before a panel of experts to make their pitch for the job. Favourite to chair the panel is former Spurs chairman Alan Sugar. Panel members will include at least one fan season ticket holder. I am looking forward to getting an application form as this is a unique opportunity to shape the future of my beloved Tottenham.

Critics of the plan, including former manager Keith Burkinshaw say that it is making a mockery of a once great club and that fans should have nothing to do with it.

Watch this space…

Happy April Fools Day from all of us at HotspurHQ!..............

Yeah, funny *****ers, ain't they!! Take it easy all, I'll look in again when I get out of hospital (no wifi there, I don't think). COYS FOTS
coopsieyid
Oh and, guys, don't work too hard. Tell you what, tell your boss you want to go and sit in the park because you get a better view of what you need to do from there. Bosses have no issue with that apparently, and it's perfectly acceptable!!
coopsieyid
TS done nothing wrong, if players dont like him they wont perform just like any other job.
123spurs
Good luck coops! That's bollix! Hope the op goes well!
Dublin Hotspur
coops u mean likes of verts kaboul sando an paulinho etc
123spurs
That **** is on here again? ******** good time to be going into hospital. Take the hint you disrespectful cretin, you're not wanted on here, so FU** OFF!! And get of that ******** high horse, it's not "the club" that are getting rid of you, it's you and only YOU. Those in charge don't want you here, they're smart people!!
coopsieyid
Love it! People hating on Verts cause he is so calm and collective. I think his more annoyed with the stupid tactics and pathetic team mates around him! I would be embarrassed too if the idiots in front of me had not got a clue each game. Our best player last season to the wolf in sheep's clothing! Probs the same people who wanted Berbatoss back!
Mix26
Brilliant Coopsie - all the every best for tomorrow's event - speedy recovery!! Take care mate.
Highgatespur
this a a spurs fourn about spurs not a personal issues you keep bringing up, who cares what ur doing or what u up to, no1 else does it so leave it, dont take it personally, just saying time an player for everything coys :D
123spurs
"contributing freely".. NO, you were freely, REPEATEDLY banned, and there was a ******** reason for it!!
coopsieyid
mix 26 verts calm and collective against chelsea WOW what a back pass and liverpool 1st goal, i say no more, did TS force verts to slip and pass it back to keeper without looking agaisnt chealsea
123spurs
Coopsie, calm down or you will end up in hospital a day early.
Kong
Well said Mix26 - who wouldn't be peed off if they were being instructed by an imbecile!! I hope he stays - in him I see the future captain...
Highgatespur
And you have something to say, TR18 2LR, Number 1. ***** it, I'll make it even easier for you. I'm in for an operation tomorrow, I'll be out hopefully by Friday, so any time after Saturday & I'll be available. One leg, in total agony, and I'll still use you as a ******** rag to wipe the pavement outside my place. Racist, sexist, hypocritical and abusive gobsheit!!
coopsieyid
Having searched various news outlets I can absolutely confirm that TS has gone! Follow the logic: there was a convincing lack of stories about TS leaving, nothing, zilch, .... no news is good news, .... good new is that TS has gone .... therefore 'no news' proves conclusively that TS has gone. No need to thank me; I'm just happy I could help! :-)
Geofspurs
Verts is playing below par, whatever the reasons for this who knows but playing below par consistently because you are *****ed off is not right.
Kong
Geofspurs - you aren't the first one to type when sleeping - sweet dreams....
Highgatespur
Kong, so who exactly is playing on par Kong ?
Highgatespur
coops calm down you seem hot n bothered relax, chill out man ;)
123spurs
Hear hear Coopsie - have a good - look forward to hearing the good news of your speedy recovery!
Highgatespur
eriksen an ade are only 2 plus lloirs have played well for us
123spurs
High ... lol Well, sweet dreams would be an improvement on recent nightmares!
Geofspurs
Highgate, not many to be honest, we are in a mess because of our managers and our players, we have had two different managers and get hammered with both so its not all sherwood's fault but he is not helping either. Verts can play much better than this, if his heart is not with us anymore then he will go.
Kong
Sherwood has lost 9 of his 22 games in charge. To find 9 AVB defeats, you have to go back 48 matches, yet the clever folk on here would like to stick with Tim, and it's a shame player power has won through? What a ******** joke!! If the players wanted to perform for a clown, they'd have signed up for the circus.
coopsieyid
ITSIT
123spurs
If you want radical change at our football club, you may want to sign this. I have.

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...nagement-of-thfc-our-reasons-are-listed-below
coopsieyid
if players liked AVB an gave him time they would be no DIM if AVB select ADE things may have been different, but i gues we will never no .COYS
123spurs
Coopsie, 5 out of the 9 of those defeats for AVB come this season so the rot started whilst AVB was here. Sherwood has just made it much worse.
Kong
Greg Stobart - 'I am 95% sure Louis Van Gaal will be managing Tottenham next season'
coopsieyid
Ryan Tegan - "Ive heard enough to believe LVG will be our manager next season"
coopsieyid
most of AVB came from the pen spot not open play if u count that then fair enough.
123spurs
Ryan was asked - "Is this from info you get or from what you have seen in the media?"

His response - "Its hard to gauge to because most contacts I have now are media based. However they all seem pretty certain"
coopsieyid
hope LVG joins every loss i will slate him he will get exactly what TS got COYS
123spurs
remember TS a rookie LVG the boss , COYS
123spurs
However another supposed ITK, BEN, is really adamant that it wont be LVG in several threads over on another site today, he must have posted it like 6 times. claim his info is from 'the top table'.
coopsieyid
"BEN also ruled out Sherwood yesterday (GOOD), i seem to recall him mentioning fdb a couple of weeks ago but i think that was more opinion than itk"........
coopsieyid
Kong - can you imagine the frustration of a top class person being asked to play second fiddle to others nowhere near his level? If you are saying others to blame as well then it's unfair to single out players... the two out of the spectrum are Rose and Lennon for me IMO.

By the way, if someone came in as replacement blazing the job of being a boss is so easy and all knowingly and THEN doesn't delve plus more - he deserves the blame - the other one has left the building - carrying the blame already!

Highgatespur
LVG said he wants to manage a top PL club is that spurs ( not in CL or EL? also he wanted to win the league in a 4th country, then why would he opt for spurs with all the faults
123spurs
123spurs, spoken like a true goner!!!!
Highgatespur
Coopsie - don't care who as long as he's successful and experienced in top level football.....
Highgatespur
highgate, so its ok for a so called top class player...dont give a s hit casue others arent
123spurs
thats what he quaoted not me u fool.
123spurs
well the goners are right again im afraid
123spurs
"From what I have heard (and again I am NOT an ITK) they've already trashed out a deal but the board is still divided on van Gaal (I believe it's his personality and dominant style - but maybe that's what Spurs need right now!)"........
coopsieyid
Hope this is true, in that we've actually discussed transfers and his backroom staff with him, not that we won't make any transfers. I find that hard to believe.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...es-if-he-takes-over-at-tottenham-9227372.html
coopsieyid
we knew LVG was going to be the manager weeks ago, dont try bring us breaking news
123spurs
Even SkySports News are mocking us on April Fools day....

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 18m
Sky Sports News understands that a deal has been reached that will see Louis van Gaal become the Head Coach of Tottenham Hotspur next season.#SSN
coopsieyid
Would just be nice if we the fans could all get behind our manager and not be calling for his head as soon as things go wrong. I AVB when he was here and think he should have been given more time but also supported TS as he is managing OUR club. Whoever comes in next I will support, and hope the board finally do also. I'd rather we get it right long term then knee jerk reactions yet again. Coops best of luck tomorrow and agree with you.
SouthCoastSpur
he wanted a challenge and hes got it, later all , gotta meet the missus wine an dine her etc
123spurs
if or when we get LVG, if he fails to beat the top 4, what will the excuse be from like of coops an FA and frank ...oh i cant wait for next season COYS
123spurs
coopsie ... Hope all goes well for ya! :-)
Geofspurs
SouthCoastSpur I will support the manager all day long until I see him he is not doing the same for the club - slating his players in public is NOT a credible action for a manager.
Highgatespur
Highgate, fair points, was just saying that Verts can't be excused for playing below his level and for other players failings. He is not singled out.
Kong
As far as LVG..... I put up a link yesterday about him coming to us and the deal was done. There was one stipend saying he would go to Man U if Moyes was sacked, in preference to us. NOT a very auspicious start if that's for true!!
longtimespur
Here's a fresh thing to debate........... http://tottenhamlive.com/news/1173-east-european-consortium-spurs-takeover-.html?
longtimespur
Kong - I am not excusing this if it's true - but there is a long list of players - not just present ones- who could be accused of this... there must be reason why one of the best performers of last season has performed so below par this year - I wonder what that could be ... hmmmm.
Highgatespur
Oh no longtimespur - hopefully it's another story for the day... will he allowed into the country - pass the test (like the leeds one) - 'better the devil you know' comes to mind.... We ought to put that to rest methinks LOL
Highgatespur
You never know with ENIC, IF the price is right, they'll play ball.
longtimespur
Longtimespur. the FA showed some cahoonas in turning down leeds one - this one is in jail for the same reason ? It seems to be open season for the club at the moment!
Highgatespur
Are you serious? That article about Becali and Spurs is rubbish. There is nothing in the Romanian press that points to such rumors. Right now Becali is in jail and he can't afford Spurs anyway. He probably has about 50 mil left, dropped from 150.
logos8
Tophobunty Missed your posts dude,keep em coming.
Somoeoen on here is doing a Tim Sherwood & making himself look a right****,let him/her carry on with that
Fanny adams
lol Lads, that article is a blatant April Fools. Just look at this comment attributed to Sherwood: “I believe I’m the right man to fix the Tottenham washing machine, but this news doesn’t surprise me. These bloody Romanians, they’re all coming over here, stealing our jobs.”

I mean, he'd hardly say something like that, would he? Well, come to think of it ...
SpursEagle
Hang on a minute,why do Tophobuntys posts get deleted ?Yet it`s OK for the messiah to post his disgraceful posts.
A few 100 love you Emails to Oxfordspur & it`s special treatment it seems
Fanny adams
I've sent thousands of Love You emails to Ox ... yet Nothing!! One day Ox, one of these days!

As for He Who Shall Not Be Named, in fairness, BigC, you know the answer to that
SpursEagle
Another story using THFC for their target s an April Fools joke....

http://tottenhamlive.com/news/1173-east-european-consortium-spurs-takeover-.html

East European consortium to launch Spurs takeover bid

Reports in Romanian media claim that Steaua Bucharest owner, George ‘Gigi’ Becali, is ready to launch a takeover bid for our beloved Spurs.

Becali, who was quoted to have said “I'm not a slave to anybody” in relation to the transfer of Vlad Chiricheș to ourselves in the summer, is understood to have been in contact with his legal team; asking them to begin the formalities of a takeover.

Dark Days Are Over

In an attempt to instantly win over the fans, if his takeover is successful, Becali aims to; abolish our StubHub partnership, provide fan-support regarding the ‘Y-word’, consistently invest cash into the team, whilst reversing the notion that we are a selling club.

Sources close to the controversial politician and businessman, believe that Becali will address the fan’s concern of 10 managers in 13 years by offering Romanian and Galatasaray legend, Gheorghe Hagi, a 6 year contract.

Romanian Revolution

With a Romanian already at Spurs, in the presence of Vlad Chiricheș, reporters were quick to quiz to our number 6 on his opinion of the potential takeover.

With Chiricheș agent being Becali’s brother, it is widely accepted that Vlad has a close relationship with the Becali family.

Chiricheș told Romanian Football Channel ‘Sport Klub’ – “He (Becali) would be great fit here at Spurs. He always wants to be the best and hates loosing. His passion and desire will only help us progress as a football club”.

Waiting for the Eastern Invasion

Before Spurs fans can reach ecstasy levels regarding Gig Becali becoming the new Spurs’ Chairman and ousting ENIC, it is understood that there are a number of stumbling blocks that could see the deal dragged out until the summer.

The main concern for Spurs fans will be the fact that Becali was sentenced to 3 years in prison on May 20th 2013, after costing the Romanian State 892,758 USD worth of damage with illegal land trade.

Although Becali and his business partner (his prison-cell neighbour) are confident of completing the takeover, it is speculated that their limited access to the internet and Wi-Fi, which currently stands at one hour a day in prison, may hinder the Romanian keeping up to date with proceedings.

Closer to home, it is understood that Daniel Levy has refused to comment upon this story, but the same could not be said for current manager Tim Sherwood.

When pushed for an answer regarding Becali’s takeover, and rumours of him being replaced by Gheorghe Hagi, Sherwood eventually told Setanta Sports News – “I believe I’m the right man to fix the Tottenham washing machine, but this news doesn’t surprise me. These bloody Romanians, they’re all coming over here, stealing our jobs.”
coopsieyid
And another

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-Spurs-agree-to-STUNNING-Emirates-groundshare

coopsieyid
Can anyone blame the quote attributed to TS - I'm are he didn't say that - after all the things he actually said on camera!
Highgatespur
Coopsie the latest one on ground share is definitely dedicated to today's date!!!
Highgatespur
I am tired of the nonsense
logos8
Coopsieyid good luck with the op mate. COYS!
James1
Football really is fickle...
I wanted Lois Van Gaal

But then i swung to Cappello due to his success at every club he has been at,phuck the football style just win first should be Spurs new Motto.

But now i`m swinging to...........

CARLO ANCELOTTI!!!!!!!
Who will probably be sacked by Real madrid for not winning everything,but who got sacked by Chelsea for winning the double,i think i`ll have some of that.

Big Cock is going for Ancelotti now,sacked for winning the double,even levy wouldn`t sack you for that
Fanny adams
Very unusual that Sky sports have nothing absolutely zilch to report since Sunday! None of the bravado statement from either the players or the manager. Suspect they are still in mourning from the funeral! Suggests there were more than words exchanged at in the dressing room. Would like to see who turns up with a black eye in the next match!
Critical_Spur
At times this forum resembles a primary school playground. I hope you can all rein it in a bit because the name calling and finger pointing gets very, very boring.
SpuriousLife
buntytopho We should have bets on how long those posts last :).
Give it up dude,Mourinho is no longer the special one,he got relegated to the happy one because of vitalspurs.There can be only one special one at one time.Mourinho got demoted
Fanny adams
buntytopho, you should get banned for playing April fool's jokes by putting our hopes up that Sherwood got sacked :)
Kong
Critical - resembles the quiet before the storm ?! There's something happening somewhere... others commenting there was a stand up row between Daws and the man in charge on Sunday.... if that's true - the dressing room has been truly 'lost'.....
Highgatespur
I've got no problem with anyone on here. Post freely and liberally but please try to keep them on topic i.e. Spurs which is what we're supposed to be on here to discuss. Once it stops being about that and starts getting personal it just gets very dull for me. Welcome back Topho. Good luck tomorrow Coopsie. COYS!
SpuriousLife
Spurious, you do the primary school children great disservice - they are way better behaved.... the parents are usually called in especially when the aggressor claims to be the victim!!! COYS!!!
Highgatespur
on topic- it's folly to think we can train a clutch of youngsters into a Pl first team...if it were easy every club would do it...if we get the odd diamond great (we may even get bunch like manu although the biggest club in the world at the time did take all the best youngsters) but the majority will fall through or go to lower leagues to finance the academy...a team full of Rose, townsend, bentaleb..etc we'd be fighting relegation every year....
shedboy2
Tophobunty---Now if you look at Tim Sherwood,you don`t have to lay into & call him a complete bellend.WHY
Because everyone can see for themselves,he`s doing it all himself without anyone needing to point it out or argue about it,let him carry on.
Only an idiot argues with another idiot & nobody in the end can tell the difference,next time in this situation,don`t bite,just let them hang themselves.
Done it again today,but again you had to bite.If you would have just ignored & put good posts up,then only one looks the fool.
Fanny adams
Spurious, agree with you totally... but the vile name calling, innuendoes, sexual references, threatening words and total lack of respect used at times is beyond the pale I feel. Just my opinion....

Anyway enough on this. Could a deal be possibly be in the making before the announcement? I really feel that an announcement will be made before Monday....

Highgatespur
Highgate & Critical - I'm with you about the strange 'quiet' from us at the moment. We've almost gone into lock-down since Sunday's debacle. That is quite strange for us. A lot more happened / is happening behind the scenes I'm sure. A couple of things are very strange to me. 1. Absolutely no apology from anyone at the club (players, Sherwood etc.) for yet another battering. 2. The SpursOfficial twitter acoount posted a tweet saying Sherwood had been sacked at 10pm on Sunday night. It was removed 90 seconds later. That is some mistake to make on the official twitter account if nothing is bubbling away in the background. Maybe I'm just seeing conspiracies everywhere!
SpuriousLife
Shedboy2 with a collection like the ones you named - I fear it will be relegation on consecutive years like Wolves!!!
Highgatespur
Spurious, agree with you totally... but the vile name calling, innuendoes, sexual references, threatening words and total lack of respect used at times is beyond the pale I feel. Just my opinion.... Anyway enough on this. Could a deal be possibly be in the making before the announcement? I really feel that an announcement will be made before Monday.... Highgatespur Read more: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7516762#ixzz2xeF7VIc1 ........................AGREE HIGHGATE COOPSIE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR THIS
buntytopho
I've thought a lot about the future direction of this club, and it's clear to me that a central management figure just isn't working anymore, largely due to the consistent erosion of his influence at the club since the appearance of ENIC and the DOF position. The manager is now just a scapegoat and a tool for the media to ridicule. Let's face it, Santini, Jol, Ramos, HR, AVB and now probably TS all either left or fired under somewhat extreme circumstances. Manager position is becoming a joke.

The joke's not funny though as every time a manager is hired/fired it costs the club and indirectly the fans millions, which is money that could be better spent on developing the club. If Spurs are to continue with the DOF for sourcing and purchasing players alongside DL, and certainly if DL is going to be hands on with the team then there is simply no point in having a central manager figure.

. The club therefore should IMO think outside the box and instead of revolving everything seemingly around 1 man, they could invest in coaches, people with the correct qualifications + experience, each area of the team could have a specific coach assigned, and players could also have mentors to help improve their game. Senior players could also get involved with tactics, training and development, let them feel more a part of the club. Focus the future on trying to develop from within using the academy facilities and the coaching expertise. The DOF with his scout system would be there behind the scenes to get the best deals for players we need at the club.

.All media and press conferences could be given by trained media spokespersons thus removing the centralised media carnival which almost always surrounds managers under pressure, and important announcements for fans could be communicated via the website, Facebook and Twitter. This way, if things arn't working coaches could be reshuffled behind the scenes, without the media circus, without the huge payouts, and also the players could be kept directly involved.

I think something radical like this could be worth trying, I'm sick of the media circus that revolves around managers week in week out, and especially the pay offs they get when they are fired, which really just amounts to rewarding failure. That's not fair on the fans at all.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
buntytopho, you got me thinking and hoping for a bit, always hope for tomorrow. Like you said was appropriate considering the day but don't do it again :)
Kong
SpuriousLife - was driving back so missed the twitter feed. Just speculating here; Possibly negotiating the man in charge's words as to who he was putting the blame on this time and possibly the PFA getting involved... Also remember one of his statement did mention that he wasn't accepting any more capitulations any further - hmmmm. Interesting times....
Highgatespur
Radical but interesting thinking Cleveland.
SpuriousLife
Highgate, Sherwood wasn't accepting any more capitulations any further but the reason for staying in the stands was because he didn’t think that he could influence it coming down. There was too much of a gap between the two teams, kind of accepting defeat before it happened, sounds like capitulation from the manager himself.
Kong
Cleveland, I think this was happening under AVB and HR I thought.... AVB came in with the remit of a project of five years but the remnants of HR period, TS, LF and CR took over when AVB left ... I think there lies the issue of having followers of the previous regime not entirely following the new regime... simple thoughts but judging by the words TS used on the quality of players he just said as much... A mess!
Highgatespur
Kong my point exactly.... being prepared not to capitulation happens well before the 90 minutes .... Plan A plan B Plan C... 1m 40 sec s that's all it took - again! What happened in the week before in training and so on - these are all the questions that needs to asked and answered fully - behind closed doors IMO.
Highgatespur
Topho, I agree with Fanny, "Just talk football & let it go.". There have been great debates on this Vital (certainly over the 3 years that I have been a member). Takes two to tango, two wrongs don't make a right, etc.. use whatever cliche' you want to use. Focus on the debate and avoid verbal confrontations. Ain't worth it. I welcome ALL views, no matter how different to mine. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Spurious, yeah, an eerie silence! Harry would've had his head hanging out of his car window talking to his press buddies!
Critical_Spur
Critical - slight disagreement with HR - he'd have his minions, especially his little Jamie, do the talking/ leaking for him and him slip and slide away....
Highgatespur
Credit where it's due to that Top Ho! You're a fighter, I'll give you that. And people gathered together become like sheep. Despite some saying hello, there was no petition in your absence, and without your persistence you would've faded away into the distance. Tim would love you. Can you play center-back?
jerkinmahjurgen
Reports saying that Allan Nielsen is joining TS's coaching staff suggest that far from being sacked, TS is entrenching his position for next season. And if money is involved the Levy and the Board must be backing him. How depressing is that?
Harry-Kari
Harry-Kari I read that as well - think it's a temporary measure - or could it be a choice of the future man ? Hope so because I sincerely dread the thought of the man being in charge for any longer beyond May13th!!

Did you also read about BAE being done for the quenelle support?
Highgatespur
Harry, "i cant live if living is without you" that one?
buntytopho
If you're one of our defenders that won't be your obligation.
jerkinmahjurgen
Highgate, That's one of the problems for me. When HR came to the lane, he brought with him his own retinue of Bond, Jordan, Ferdinand Sherwood et al. How many of those guys really are highly qualified to coach top class players? When he left, some left with him, some didn't then AVB brought in his guys etc etc. That's why I think that all coaches should be appointed by the club (say by the DOF) and stay contractually attached to the club until such a time as their contract runs out, rather than attached to a manager. The coaches and scouts brought in directly by the club you would then hope at a minimum would have all their badges or at best be proven top class coaches.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
Is Nielsen an LVG sidekick... gradual handover?
Critical_Spur
Harry-kari...... IF that is true and not just 01/05 crap, then I will not be on here much in the future or any other site relevant to THFC. DL will have done for me. I cannot see any reason to keep the ignoramos (TS) in charge. He cannot pick the right team, or play players in their own positions. Doesn't appear to have any tactical nous, or select the right players to play in any supposed system the team might have. All he does is spout his own rhetoric, focusing on his own persona. Never admits he got things wrong, always they (players) weren't good enough. And to admit in public that we are second best to Liverpool, although true on the day, that should be in closed rooms too. Cannot alter things on the pitch sitting in the stand and certainly should NOT admonish players in public. All he talks about is effort and pride,which I agree with, but not at the expense of skill. Cannot abide his narrative to the press, as I couldn't with HR, but at least HR had us playing good football albeit with VDV, Bale and Modric being available. I'm sorry but IMHO Tim Sherwood will take us backwards whilst he's manager.
longtimespur
I think the Nielsen rumour is wrong, It's my understanding it's Liam Neeson he told Levy over the phone ''you don't know who I am, but I have a special set of skills''
spu 4 life
brilliant post Longtimespur, but you should also include Les ferdinand as well, Useless springs to mind. it does not look like we have any coaches. same Shi*e week in, week out.i give up. Ancelotti please save us.
topspur53
Here, Tim's tactics notes - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkEv3fUIAAAnyhJ.jpg
coopsieyid
Tops, I think you may be getting a reprieve! use it well! I enjoy the banter!
Dublin Hotspur
Blimey, playing the "victim" ... Just got sick in my mouth
SpursEagle
Tim will be gone lads, not today, maybe not tomorrow……. but one day! Time is an illusion…… when it happens I will rejoice and be happy once again!!
Dublin Hotspur
^blimey, no toothpaste?
HGH Magic
And what would an uneducated troll like you know about toothpaste HGH Magic ?
Arky
I am still no wiser as to what Les Ferdinand gets paid a fortune to do. I am submitting a request to THFC under the freedom of information act to find out.
vicspur
Man ON! tells us, "Tim in just 4 months has ruined our season." It maybe true that the season has fallen apart since Sherwood arrived, but it is most certainly not Sherwood's fault that an untried, arrogant, novice of a football coach was given the head coaching role at THFC. There is only one man to blame for that, and it is that clueless, arrogant, fool, of a apprentice, Fantasy Football, joke of a football chairman that hired him! Daniel Levy official club statement 23rd December 2013, "We have a great squad and we owe them a head coach who will bring out the best in them and allow them to flourish and enjoy a strong, exciting finish to the season. “We are in the fortunate position of having within our club a talented coach in Tim Sherwood. We believe Tim has both the knowledge and the drive to take the squad forward.” It is Daniel Levy who fired AVB, and it is Daniel Levy who hired Tim Sherwood... LEVY/LEWIS/ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
If Madrid win nothing this season, then there is a good chance that Ancelotti will be sacked. I would not be suprised to see Madrid go back in for Pellegrini when the Madrid merry go round starts again.
vicspur
very good article. Vicspur-keep us posted, I would love to know what Ferdinand does but I would also like some info about what the article suggests - our plan.

Tottenham are a bit like England international set up. Years and years of high expectations only for it to crumble. Now everyone has taken the pressure of England, lowered their expectations and allowing Hodgson to build something. Whether this approach is maintained and he keeps his job if England have a poor WC I don't know.

I personally want us to be more honest as a club. It seems we are giving players false expectations. You cannot say to internationals we are going for top four then sell your best players, then sack your manager when things get tough or don't bring in the players that are needed, or requested by the manager.

Personally I would be happy to take the pressure of the club and would like to see Levy come out and say, top four is not a minimum requirement at this stage. Our objectives is to develop our youngsters and build a stadium and give the manager time to build a strong squad.

This may well mean we will not see top players comes to the club but it will also mean we will not pay over the odds for players as well.

Everton are competing because they have had continuity, and selected their manager to continue where Moyes left off. Martinez or Moyes were not told, top four or your sacked. If we did the same, had continuity and were realistic and Levy got on with the financial side and stadium then in a few years we may well be competing or at least he will sell and we will get someone invest.

This nonsense about top four yet selling best players and buying in players that will hopefully make us a profit and sacking manager is damn right stupid and I don't buy it and neither do the players now.
BeingIStoBe
cleveland- good points re coaches but will managers accept that.
BeingIStoBe
Toothless Arky = ignored. SpursEagle got the gist apparently.
HGH Magic
Cleveland-radical, insightful but not sure it will happen. Absolutely agree though with regards to the circus of managers at our club that are getting huge pay offs, laughing all the way. In fact I would go as far as saying managers may well want to come because they know that they can get a three years contract and work one and get two years pay for doing nothing. It has to stop. Plus agree with the way our managers are now in the firing line with the media. We have become a joke. Moyes hasn't done well but he doesn't get as much crap as AVB and TS - why because we have a reputation of hiring and firing and the media love us - we are a drama club
BeingIStoBe
BeingIStoBe, Totally agree with your views on Everton! The Everton board have for many years given their head coach the freedom to run the playing side of the club, and all that has changed this season (luckily for them) is that Moyes left for United and the Everton board appointed a vastly superior coach named Martinez, who let's be honest here, would not last more than a season and a half if he was working for that arrogant fool Daniel Levy! Same goes for the class Liverpool coach who turned down the apprentice for exactly the same reasons...
Pele10
High gate, I saw the headline re: BAE but not interested enough to read the article. Hope you are right about Nielsen being the advanced guard for someone else.
Harry-Kari
I think Arky was alluding to the fact that trolls aren't exactly renowned for their pearly whites. Nice to see you still have Tophos back though, HGH. BFF's? Or one and the same? Hmmmmmmm
SpursEagle
Pele10, don't be stupid. Martinez would have lasted at least a season and three quarters with us.
In-spurs-ational
BeingIS..., wish you got back from Neptune after your tour of Jupiter earlier mate, maybe, just maybe, AVB wouldn't have been sacked? ...possibly as a result of Levy/Enic reading too much fan moanings on Vital Spurs? Just thinking; don't you think you lot share a substantial portion of the blame? The fans?! Thinking, hyping, spouting and deluding yourselves daily thfc are a top4 team - when in reality they're NOT - simply because 'Arry once stumbled upon league success or Florentino Perez and his clan, in their customary brainfart moment, were dumb enough to stump up silly £££ on Bale, which in turn prompted the knee-jerk summer shopping spree in excess of £107m on absolutely 7 strange bed fellows?
HGH Magic
Nielsen advanced guard! Does anyone know who he works for now??? If it's true, it ain't Tim recruiting him as the rumour states, that's bluff!!
Dublin Hotspur
LOL SpursEagle...Hmmmmm...trolls and geniuses in the same sentence don't quite work, sure yer know? More like AVB and Ade trying tango or tap-dancing, with Ade the bride in pearly with gown ;) Anyways, be sure I'd be doing Magic with this Spuds team, if only Levy were blessed with a little more hair, brains and not blocks, and bigger balls ;)
HGH Magic
HGH Magic, toothless you charge me but in the morning I can get dentures. You however will still be the uneducated and vile troll lacking in manners on neighbouring boards. The Chav that you are.
Arky
make that *pearly white gown*
HGH Magic
OK Arky, I give up; your call. Enjoy your dentures lol
HGH Magic
Pele, I'm kind of agreeing with you, but Sherwood has exacerbated the situation beyond belief!!
Dublin Hotspur
Loving the humility coyb LOL.
Thats Entertainment
Dublin - He was on the telly recently - I hope oohing permanent here - but with Spurs you never know,,, but if the unthinkable happens - have to think long and hard ... here's the link
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/04/01/i-didnt-think-about-it-twice-allan-nielsen-heads-to-join-tottenham-hotspur-coaching-staff/134168/
Highgatespur
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cleveland- interesting idea but one person does need to bring it all together and that person generally is the manager...you also touched on something though...the coaches etc are all contracted to THFC but generally follow 'their' manager when he goes (depends if they're on a good crack or he can offer better elsewhere)...I think it would be better if they were all contracted as a unit...like hiring a subcontracting company...give the manager a budget for his coaching staff...that way harry would have kept the cash rather than provide jobs for the boys..and if he didn't Dim, les etc would have all gone with him!
shedboy2
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Coopsie that training note was brilliant but I do think it may be too close to the truth - if not the truth itself!!!
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now I feel better
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Dublin - the Neilsen bit not posted on the website; so could be another for today specifically... you know what - I hope so!!!
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BeingIStoBe, while not denying the 'drama club' I think the media ares till hurting over the sacking of their darling boy, Harry.
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I can't believe Dim still has a job....what is Levy playing at?...enough already....
shedboy2
To continue with a point being made about a greater British contingent in our team. Sounds good on paper, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be more loyal in playing for the club. Judas is the prime example, & Carrick, Bale to a lesser extent. Ambition and/or money will always turn heads.

I actually agreed with something Sherwood said(I know! I'm still in shock!) about our fans needing to be educated on the home grown talent. He said we are far more willing to give a foreigner time than we are on of our own. In a way, he has a valid point. That certainly isn't the case with all the fans, as a certain banned member still in denial about that fact, will be more than willing to testify to.

You got a prediction for Man Utd v Bayern, Highgate?
SpursEagle
Cleveland, I don't know exactly when but a decision was made that the club would appoint all the coaches up to and including the highest tier outside the first team.... the manager would then bring his coaches to work with the first team.... that's the reason for the glut of coaches - Inglethorpe etc. Avb bought his own first team coaches in while the rest stayed on when HR left ... now going for the minor coaches to be the interim coaches - TS,CR, LF, SF - the whole thing has gone astray.... Marvellous. That's where Neilsen might come in... mate I really don't know.... Suppose the DoF would be responsible for every coach etc but for the 1st team ones - that would enable continuity and 'security'? Plans are plans!!!
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Oh that Nielsen! Cheers highgate! Tim's mate or working for someone else???
Dublin Hotspur
British players who play for Spurs are $hit.British players are not $hit as teams have plenty of good ones just Spurs do not.

let`s use Southampton as an example.I would say their best british players are far superior to our british ones.I would take at least 3 of them no problem but they now will be overpriced.

Shaw is a superb left back who would walk into this team with noone putting up a fight.Rose,Naughton & Walker our full backs,Shaw theirs & he`s better than all of them.

lennon V Adam Lallana both attacking midfielders,not even debatable.Adam Lallana would replace Lennon with a first round knock out( well Sherwood started that)

Jay Rodriguez & Ricki lambert have done more than Dawson,Defoe & pretty much any other British Spurs player this season.

Everton have leighton baines who again would walk into our side at left back.Jagielka is better than Dawson & Ross barkley has great potential.They also sold Kack Rodwell who was a great player at Everton & Rooney who is world class.

If Spurs want british then get quality or don`t buy at all.IMO Spurs have the worst bunch of English players in the top 8..
Fanny adams
Daniel Levy must be embarrassed what a monumental ***** up the last 2 years have been.
MrSpurs
BigC -- I'd take Barkley any day! Lad's gonna be class. Saw him make Wilshire look like a whimpering poodle at the Emirates early in the season.

I'd take Baines as well. I alsolike the look of Lallana and Shaw could end up with 120 caps.
SpursEagle
longtimespur, similar thoughts my friend... similar thoughts... at the departure of AVB and promotion of TS - I posted "sad day for Spurs" on my FB page - still convinced I was right! Hopefully an announcement to give us hope is imminent> COYS
Highgatespur
Just look at pep! Controlled, oozing class on the touch line! In complete tandem with his team... Tim???? Oh well!!
Dublin Hotspur
Yeah, but I bet Pep can't get rhyming slang into a post match interview, Dublin!

What's the Spanish equivalent of "It's all gone a bit Pete Tong"?
SpursEagle
su tong pete todo se ha ido
MAN ON!
Great point about the British players SpursEagle... It does need a strong principle running through the club - no matter whee the players are from.....IMO...

On your other point, I can't recall any British player being less favoured than an import....Rasiak? Mido? GDS? would a foreign AL survive so long... import Daws survive ? import Defoe survive - don't think so.
Generally when imports come in they are somewhat established internationally and the Brits aren't...

Hopefully BM win - they usually like the 2-0 score - but saying that no doubt manure will win!!!
I will tend to flick between the two matches... you?
Highgatespur
SpursEagle IMO the foreign contingent except for Bale have been carrying & dragging our British players up the league for years,it can no longer continue & it pi$$es me off.
It also means average,mid table players at best,British players get paid millions just because they`re british.I don`t agree with that,Ashley Young a prime example,Lennon too.
if football was performance based paid then our british players along with ****e like Ashley Young would be lucky to pick £300 a week.
The rule about british players is too easily exploited by the average British players themselves.Not the clubs problem if decent worthy Brits are in short supply & shouldn`t have to pay the earth for someone who cannot justify their wages.

Pay £60 to watch lennon,Walker,Dawson,Rose ,Townsend etc? Don`t make laugh.
£3.50 max to watch those poor excuses for pro footballers
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lmao MAN ON!
SpursEagle
Dublin, similar style of the suit sometime ? That Pep's gotta learn so much from that man!
I hear that Pep has enrolled at UTC in the autumn to be 'educated' at the etiquette of management!
Highgatespur
Interesting points, BigC/ Thing is, if we are going to buy British, I think, they won't be the best of. For instance, we won't get Shaw, or Barkley, as they see 4/5 clubs right now who are a lot more attractive to play for, and who will pay them more.

So the ones we do get will end up being good British players, who are completely overrated by the press and their parent club, and we'll end up with another Bentley! lol

Can't agree with you on Lennon, though
SpursEagle
Daniel Levy watches Tottenham thrash Inter Milan the current European Champions with a team containing VDV, Modric and Bale and thinks to himself I KNOW WHAT WE NEED!! lets sack the manager, sell VDV, sell Modric, sell Bale bring in a DoF..... is Levy a gooner I sometimes wonder.
MrSpurs
Dunno eagle, but you're dead right! I think playing like peps teams was avbs plan, but he set the movement up too slow. Maybe pace and pizazz would have come with time.... Timmy, well it all went Pete......off to the rubbadub for a John Deere and then up the apples and pears for a ruby Murray so!!
Dublin Hotspur
Standard of players, too Dubs. In fairness, if AVB had the luxury of keeping both Bale and Modric ...
SpursEagle
Coops, prog on C4 at 9 you might be interested in.. I'll be watching...
Dublin Hotspur
SpursEagle But is there something wrong with our scouting?

I`ve done some great scouting & in 2 minutes found loads of great assets that you simply cannot dismiss,you could make a great team out of these.
i know i sound like a know it all,but c`mon this is how easy scouting is for top performers & strikers a plenty...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/election2010/2959490/Save-these-girls-brfrom-dole-queue.html
Fanny adams
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/election2010/2959490/Save-these-girls-brfrom-dole-queue.html
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And lol at the slang, although I reckon he was on the Dog & Bone to 'Arry, while he slipped on his Bhythm & Blues, letting off a wee Horse & Cart.
SpursEagle
Maybe there is something wrong with the scouting, BigC. But the problem we have is the really good British players have their sights set higher. All that's left for us is to take a chance on potential. That's where we might get Lallana ... but Barkley and Shaw are beyond the "potential" stage, and sadly, out of our league right now.
SpursEagle
How many British players make it abroad at top european clubs??? Not many! Just saying.
Dublin Hotspur
The problem isn't the scouting the problem is keeping a manager longer than 24 months without Levy sacking them.
MrSpurs
Agree, Dublin. Kinda makes the Bale thing so bitter/sweet. Delighted he's done so well so far, just wish he were doing it for us
SpursEagle
lol MrSpurs. There is that, mate!
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Dublin... I wish they'd try more often - perhaps then we'd get a look in at the major competitions - I suppose money ta£ks!!! Gotta say well done to Ba£e!!!!
Highgatespur
Lol spurs eagle. And true re bale, I'm happy for him! This season would have destroyed him! He'd have been dropped, bad back, out of position!!! No. When barca or bayern go for shaw or llanananana, then I will accept they are world class. The British media spin British players so much! Especially in a WC year! Look what they did with andros! AVB knew it was too soon for him to get sucked into the English media hype... Now look at him! Prob off to Pompey or posh!!
Dublin Hotspur
MrSpurs - how many British players / youngsters succeeded at L'Arse in the 15 years ? How many with us under HR regime, 4 years?

For me the coaching is the problem - especially between the ages of 18-22.... they tend to disappear or stagnate then... (Wiltshere, Rodwell, Lennon, Milner McCrenen come to mind)
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Dublin Hotspur That`s because they don`t have to.

SpursEagle Yes but what i`m saying is they all started somewhere.
peter Crouch & David beckham started at the same club,,know where that was?

But Spurs are simply snapping the wrong ones up,we don`t bring hardly any successful ones through our academy,but who is the one that is saying he`s good enough,he`s good enough,he`s good enough because he`s clearly getting too many wrong.
Southampton can bring them through,Everton can yet Spurs can`t with any success.

look through the last 10 years & how many successes.

Routledge,Hudd,Rose,Walker,Naughton,Lennon,Dawson,Andy Reid,Jake Livermore,Jaimie O hara,Callum Davenport,Michael brown,Rohan Ricketts,Ben Alnwick,Chris Gunter,Simon Davies,mathew etherington,Alan Hutton,David bentley,Paul Robinson, have i missed anyone???
To add Michael Carrick & Gareth bale as the only 2 i can think of who were really good young British players bought or brought through by Spurs.

Whoever is in charge of youth development & young player scouting is not doing their job properly.Most of these players should not have been brought & Spurs should not have wasted their time in bringing them through the ranks,the eye for serious good young talent is not there at Spurs.

Even West ham have James Tomkins,
Liverpool took a great punt on henderson,Flanagan looks half decent,Gerrard the nuts,
Arsenal Wilshere,Walcott,Chamberlain,Gibbs,Ashley Cole?.Manchester City Joe Hart cost them virtually nothing.
Chelsea had lampard & Terry brilliant for the last 10 years.
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I know what you mean BigC. I doubt though, that Crouch would have made it with us. He'd have faced the Kane-like derision from the hoardes!!

All you have to do is look at Bentaleb, and the sh** he's had to take after a whopping twelve appearances ... actually, the crap started much earlier than that.

You gotta admit, we aren't exactly the nicest or friendliest bunch to start your career in front of ... and patience is as alien to us as Pete Tong is to the Spanish
SpursEagle
Dubs -- Completely agree about the British media, especially in WC year! Spot on too about AVB's opinion on Townsend. That was extra pressure he didn't need while trying to fill the Welshman's giant boots
SpursEagle
Cmon Levy follow the Roman Emperors & have a hot bath.
Uskok
Spurs Eagle, to be fair Nabil hasn't got any criticism from the crowd at Spurs - unfortunately he has been seen as the manager's pet; I really don't think we have an idea at the club how to nurture the youngsters at the club beyond a certain age...
Highgatespur
I hope you are right about that, Highgate. And that's why I just thought there was a little something in what Sherwood said. We do need to learn how to nurture talent.

If they turn out duds, then so be it. There is absolutely no reason for us to accelerate the process, or perhaps even hound out a gem like BigC mentioned, only to have them return to haunt us
SpursEagle
Our Manager's crap. Our coaches' are crap. Half the squad is crap. Our Academy is crap. Levy and Lewis are crap. Life is crap. I need a crap! Keep the faith guys... Keep the faith.... AVB's crap. Harry was crap. Most of our ex-players were crap. The X-factors crap. One Direction are crap. Sky Sports is crap. TalkSport is crap. Eastenders is crap. Crap is crap. I need another crap. Keep the faith... Who do we lose to next guys? I love crap! I'm 100% behind you Spurs...... With a pooper-scooper!......... Is there a finishing School for managers? This post is crap!
MAN ON!
Could turn that into the "crap rap", MAN ON. Just need a decent beat behind it.

You could do a version of it next year with the squad when we get to the Cup Final
SpursEagle
SpursEagle Spurs fans would love Bentaleb if he was an excellent player,but he is not.
Only way bentaleb can change fans views is by doing it on the pitch,until then it won`t change.
i rated bentaleb at first but now believe i was wrong,he has done more or less nothing for 5-6 matches in a row.
Some of it is bad management,just throwing him out there when the vultures are circling you & the wolves are hungry is just poor management.Start them off with cameo roles & give them more minutes the more they impress.

How many Spurs fans actually think Kane is a good player?Kane will make a half decent championship player & that`s not hard to spot.

Sol Campbell was loved by everyone got made captain ,so was King,loved by everyone,made captain.so the notion of fans not given players a chance is wrong,too many just don`t deserve the minutes they get.
Dawson would`ve got the praise if he was good as King or Campbell,but he is not.
Fans are not harsh on Spurs players,it`s poor management for keep playing them.
Bentaleb should not have started ahead of sandro,one is clearly the better player,not bentalebs fault but he`s the one who gets it.But he was dreadful on Sunday which everyone could see coming
Fanny adams
Sorry, BigC, but I cannot agree with you on passing judgement on a 19 year-old after just about a dozen games.

I actually think he should have been playing beside Sandro against Liverpool. Not a case of instead of him, because there is no way we should have started that game with the attacking 5 we had!
SpursEagle
SpursEagle I sort of agree because there still might be something there,but it`s up to him to stand out as a bit of light in Spurs darkest hours,Bentaleb has not done that..But if any Spurs player is not performing then it`s up to the manager to drop him.But i think with bentaleb Sherwood is very stubborn & doesn`t want to,it`s about Spurs not Sherwoods ego.
It`s also up to the manager to create competition in the camp,when one is not playing well another is ready to jump in.

Arron Lennon has done nothing all season & he`s only been dropped once lately because of it.Lennon has been our worst performer this season IMO,but weak management tells him he can carry on with that.
Fanny adams
About Lallana and Shaw.....they would both be very welcome by just about all of us, I bet....Lallana's 'only' on 40k pw just now, so even we could improve on that- but I think he's just what United are missing and we all know what they can pay....it's the usual Spurs conundrum: no higher wages until new stadium brings in more revenue........ Shaw, though...if we were in for Baines, why not Shaw?....the clubs above us are all well represented in his position(s), so maybe the right offer from us would tempt him our way?...We have until really recently been quite well represented with English internationals: King, Campbell, Crouch, Lennon,Defoe all first or second choice, even Caulker (I think) and Dawson making squads (notice I left out my own personal bugbear Walker!!)...but, point well taken: no Rooney or Gerrard..
Brown-Baker-Henry
post of the century from Man on... just talking crap
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I have to admit though that Aaron Lennon has this unique,yet superb ability to look a good player ,doing absolutely nothing,& i mean nothing.I have no idea how he has pulled that off over the last 4 seasons but he won`t be able to pull the wool over everyones eyes forever.

I think lennon will be sold in the summer & long overdue.
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SpursEAgle - he has been partly responsible for that since 2008 - where are the graduated youth players?
Who's the shining one - to haunt us ?

I just don't think the club really knows how to develop the 18-22 year old ... BIG time!
1-1 told you I'd put the curse on - Moyes will be the hero now....
Highgatespur
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Promising young talent will always a have a better chance at the likes of Southampton, they can blood them in gradually and expectations are not as great. At Spurs there is immense pressure on the coach on virtually every game so he is unlikely to give a youngster game time when he has two or three internationals ahead of him, Bentaleb case in point, the boy can play but should he have started ahead of Sandro or Capoue away at pool? Ledley King came into the team and looked the part instantly, it can happen but most of the time young talent needs nurturing and Spurs isn't the right club for it.
ItalianYiddo
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Expensive crap.

Spurs will go & buy that now & put it centre forward,good one logos8
Fanny adams
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aahh that felt good. crap.
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Well the debate about selection against Liverpool. It was criminal that Sandro and Dembele were on the bench especially Sandro. How did Siggy get in the cm role with a 19yr old, that was criminal. If Tim wanted to stick with Bentaleb he should have played Sandro and Dembele, experience and not Siggy and Chadli. Eriksen behind Soldado. We needed experience and some muscle and finesse. Eriksen could have done his bit with no worries with a solid midfield behind him, but Bentaleb and Siggy and Eriksen on the left not his best position was a disaster and Tim got it wrong. He could not gone with Bentaleb but if it was to hard to drop his favourite then he should have played sandro and dembele imo.
BeingIStoBe
Having said that it is not Bentaleb fault. I actually think the best players this season has been Ade when he returned although not every game and still not convinced he is right for us. Eriksen and Lloris and sandro although he has had too many injuries. The rest pants although Bentaleb has achieved what you would expect a 19 year old to. played it safe made some good tackles but nothing more nothing less. Shouldn't have been playing imo should have been loaned.
BeingIStoBe
For those who think bentaleb is good, look at Everton's young lad, barkley, now I think he is better than Bentaleb. Tim has rose colour spects on, I think carrol is better as well. Bentaleb as I said has done nothing wrong but nothing spectacular to warrant a starting place over international players. I think other players should have been given time and partnerships formed, too many swapping and changing as well.
BeingIStoBe
I agree. Young prospects like bentaleb should be sent out on loan. Tim has made a fool of himself with many things especially with the benching of quality proven at international level professionals for the sake of playing his favorite kid.
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Ha Ha Ha!!! Brilliant! I love the scream at a bum one! I'm gonna dress scruffy tomorrow and hit the Halpenny bridge with a sign like that!!! be amazing to hear what lads shout at you!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Lennon has got worse, Townsend hasn't started, one good game at the time he played for England. Back four absolutely terrible this season. Kaboul can go, he has not come back that good and is too injury prone. He has been at fault for about four goals lately, if the poor marking Kaboul has done recently when we conceded was Dawson every body would be on here calling for him to be chopped, but Kaboul gets away with it. he has been woeful at marking at set pieces and not that good during outfield play.

Vertonghen has disappointed me with his attitude and mistakes although I think the club *****ed him of with not getting a LB.

Paulinho looks like he is on holiday most of the time on the pitch. Some times he puts himself about and shows some brilliance other times it is like he is strolling along the brazil beach.

Dembele hasn't improved, another injury prone player who just runs about with the ball passing players only to make a side way pass, doesn;t score doesn't create. It's about time the players stopped thinking they are that good and as for Tim he got it wrong too many tim, but what did we expect.
BeingIStoBe
Why do people think the likes of Llanana, Shaw, Baines would come to us. They are too good for our club with the state we are in. They will not come for the money, they are getting regular footy, being looked at for England and have a stable good manager who is doing a fine job and who are challenging for top four. If they go it will be to a bigger club than ours.
BeingIStoBe
I think Verts started changing his attitude when AVB was still here, because he had to play at LB. In a way I agree with him that the decision to make Rose starting LB with no decent backup while letting BAE go out on loan was a stupid decision, not from AVB, from Baldini, or from Levy... but from all of them. The strangest thing that could have happened. If AVB would have said he still wants a lb backup but could not get it I would have understood, but he always said he is happy with what he has... wtf? Then comes Tim and plays to the same song... Kind of a joke really and I understand Verts for being upset about it. He realized we are not what he thought we were as a club so he wants to leave. Good for him. The only thing I don't understand is how that can drain you off all your ambition and passion to perform decently on the pitch in a world cup year. You won't see that from a professional too often.
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Let us know Dublin - see if more creative insults are used than used here previously!
Highgatespur
Fellaini is to moyes what bentaleb is to Tim! Discuss
Dublin Hotspur
I think Tim got it wrong (again) look at how much time Andros (the clue is in the name) has had in comparison to say Lamela...one had a good run in his preferred position, the other a couple of games in different positions...which one is being labelled the 'flop'..? yet which one has shown class and performed consistently high in those football backwaters of Argentina and Italy and which one has been loaned out and failed to make much of an impact in our lower leagues?...oh yes the future is bright- if we can keep up this production line...we might even win a title one day...league 1....
shedboy2
Bentaleb is only 19, so unsurprisingly he has been inconsistent in his breakthrough season, but we shouldn't forget the MOTM performances he's put in as well. Even the very best in the world were inconsistent at 19 or even labelled a jinx by some of their own fans.... Admittedly he has been overused, although the likes of Dembele and Paulinho haven't exactly played out of this world either.
Guyver
Jan wants to go. He's keeping the price down thus keeping more options open. He's also giving us the big finger. He's maybe one of those targeted by Sherwoods 'trust and care' rant, due to his recent crap attitude. Maybe the others started to front him over it and this has been his response? King played with and for some dross but NEVER gave up. Jan Thewrongen is no Spurs legend.
jerkinmahjurgen
shedboy2 don't you mean AVB? Townsend played more under AVB than he has under Sherwood and Lamela's been injured for the majority of Sherwood's reign.
Guyver
Re Bentaleb the old adage if your good enough you're old enough should apply...he's not a phenom he's an Ok player who would benefit from playing regularly but at the moment isn't good enough to do so in a side aiming at top4 in the PL...loan him out and see if he can cut the mustard. at this stage like his mentor we really can't afford to become a training academy....
shedboy2
Guyver- I wasn't clear, no I mean Tim...I was referring to him 'educating' us (Tim as teacher now there's frightening thought) as in spurseagle's post Tim saying 'we are far more willing to give a foreigner time than we are one of our own'....
shedboy2
perhaps I did have Tim as a teacher looking at the grammar in my last post..;)
shedboy2
Through these analysis of the unknowns and assumptions the season gets murkier by the minute
Highgatespur
Groundsharing with Arsenal is an April fools i take it.

Groundsharing with Arsenal? ha ha that`s a good one
Fanny adams
Ajax star Davy Klaassen to be Van Gaals first signing,,,

Now that would be awesome,he`s mustard
Fanny adams
Jerk,I have no quibble with your assumption of Vertonghen's decline in form although I would counter it by what I have seen at the games.
If JV's form and attitude was so bad - why not just drop him ? Play Kaboul/Dawson/Fryers/development squad player instead... it wouldn't do JV any good not to be playing in the WC bearing in mind the warning of Belgium manager back in October... Jan looked genuinely injured on Sunday - he was in a protective crutch, sitting on the bench after 1/2 time and is out for the next week's game...
Your suggestion means he will also play a horrible WC to move at a lower price ?
There are too many improbables here. Perhaps he has a drop in form because he has to cover two positions in every game he plays... being the only CB to be asked to play out of position regularly and also not understanding the instructions!
Maybe he is depressed through all this ?
There seems to be many things this season that doesn't add up to give us a clear picture of things.

You may be right but it's hard to see how and why his form has declined so much in such a short space of time... he certainly isn't Ledley but I don't think he is what you are suggesting either.
I would agree he isn't a legend - he needs many more than one good season to be one.
sorry to say but none of the defensive players have done much to deserve much credit this year.
Highgatespur
Ox.. Good article..This is what needs to be sorted.. too much going on without Levy and co. saying anything to the fans..
Block D Spurs
younis Kaboul to L'Arse ?
Highgatespur
Don't agree that we're so bad a club all of a sudden that nobody decent will want to join us....we're still a Prem top 6 team, pay mid-level to good wages and are in London......Shaw would find us more attractive than S'hampton for those reasons, as his current team although improving in leaps and bounds aren't expected to compete for the E leagues and we still are.....hopefully with LVG at the helm...
Brown-Baker-Henry
BBH - how are you doing ?

Agree with you about folks joining us - we are going the panic stages of not knowing where we are heading - methinks!!!
Luke Shaw supports Chelski the CW points that direction I'm afraid! I'm sure we'll do okay!!

waiting for the announcement .... fingers crossed!
Highgatespur
send Kaboul to arsenal with Dawson as bonus if they promise to start them both when they play against us. COYS
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Young promising talent? Visit London. Higher wages. Awesome training ground. Stepping stone for a better future as long as turn out to be good. If you don't, don't worry, we'll keep playing you as long as you are loyal.
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Visit London. Manage Spurs for 6 months. Get sacked & leave with millions. Dream job. #GetIn
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loads of CVs pouring in as we speak
logos8
Angry? Frustrated? Don't settle for screaming at a bum for 50 cents. Come manage spurs and shout at 11 millionaires for 90 minutes and we'll pay you a fortune for it. #COYS
logos8
Doing fine, ta High....'cept for the way the season's gone, of course? You're quite the trooper, heading to Anfield and that....never been there....do Chelski need Shaw?...they seem to have plenty of cover all over, like everyone above us 'specially at the back....hope you're doing well..
Brown-Baker-Henry
Nice to see posters on here having a good sense of humour but we are still crap ;-)
Madaboutspurs
mad about, our away fans have a server of humor too http://voetbalflitsen.nl/wtf/18592/tottenham-fans-blijven-positief-let-s-pretend-we-scored-a-goal-/ The first video appears on quite a few sites, but this was the only site I found with both videos on
In-spurs-ational
"sense of humor" not "server of humor" (damn predictive keyboard)
In-spurs-ational
Stadium update and financial results on official site - Here is a part of it - "It is a major development that will present ongoing challenges and subject to these challenges being manageable we anticipate going out to tender for construction late this year which will make a stadium opening date of Summer 2017 feasible."
Kong
2017 as an opening date if things go to plan, lets hope that is right.
Kong
Daniel Levy - Our focus therefore is to continue to invest in and develop the squad - we shall not look to a summer of major upheaval, but rather to strengthen in key positions - to play the style of football for which we are famous - and to deliver the new stadium.
Kong
Morning Kong - It's not exactly the most definitive or confidence inspiring of statements is it? Lots of ifs, maybes and caveats in there. I'll be flabbergasted if it is completed by 2017. In fact I'll be surprised if the stadium build has started by 2017.
SpuriousLife
SpuriousLife, I got excited so started copy and pasting :). I don't know how they will build a stadium by 2017 if tendering doesn't start till later this year but I don't think it will be the complete stadium by 2017 but most of it built and we play in there whilst the remaining part is finished.
Kong
We still don't know the outcome of the CPO and whether it can be challenged by either party once a decision has been made.
Kong
Just for Pele10 - "We have fantastic, strong support. Our current 36,000 seater stadium sells out and the waiting list for season ticket holders is currently in excess of 47,000". There you go Pele10 the waiting list is 47,000 per your mate Daniel :).
Kong
Our current home games may technically be sell-outs but lots of fans (creeping into the many hundreds now) are choosing not to actually come to the game to watch the dross on show. I know Levy probably doesn't care because they've paid for their ticket even if they then don't turn up but he shouldn't ignore the message this is giving him.
SpuriousLife
Levy mentions we are only two points less than we were this time last season, like that makes me feel better about the season. Will be interesting to see how the fans will be on Monday, it is not a sell out as some tickets are still available on the official site.
Kong
I have a feeling there will be a lot of 'empty blue' in the stadium on Monday.
SpuriousLife
and if the performance is not great then those fans there will probably leave or make their feelings known. That is probably why Levy put out this statement so attention can go on the stadium.
Kong
eSee, BigCock, top**** & HGHom = All cut from the same cloth, and ALL have stood together on here, getting kicks out of mocking a fellow supporter. 2 of those have been banned repeatedly, neither of them have enough respect for anyone to give a ***** about being banned, so simply change their name and return again. Times have changed though, and it will NOT be tolerated anymore. Reprieve? Not a ******** chance :-) BigCock, the address is above if you've got something you wish to say :-)

123, you're looking forward to Sherwoods replacement losing, so that you can slag him off. Pathetic!! Maybe you need to go through the old articles, and the responses to them. You'll see that everyone was supporting Sherwood, with most saying they hope he does well because it'll mean the club does well. You're totally ignoring all of that, and believe people are against Sherwood just for the sake of it, and you're wrong, VERY wrong. Just accept that he's not up to the job. Stop refusing to see what's in front of your eyes eaxh time we play. We're a shower of sheit & we're getting worse. You're blaming it all on the players, yet you're refusing to accept that they simply don't want to perform for this joke of a manager. Funny thing is, when AVB was manager & we were *****, according to you it was all down to him. However, now he's gone & we have a clueless chancer in control, it's all down to the players. How convenient for you lol.
coopsieyid
The title of the article is nearly right, for "Show the way Daniel", it should read "Show the road to Daniel", preferably a road leading a long way away from WHL, and THFC.
Frank
Sorry "point the way" but the alternative is still valid.
Frank
coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops, doesn't take anything from the fact that you're just an overly sensitive paranoid childish ***** lol
HGH Magic
Coops unlike you i`ve never even had a warning,you`ve been warned countless times.
I don`t think you`re right in the head,seriously off the charts & HGH Magic is right about you.
I ignore you best i can bu t you keep writing those Emails to Oxfordspur telling him how great he is
Fanny adams
 

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