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Should they stay or should they go?

I'm wondering, what it is we do with 2 of the players we already have, they just so happen to be the two most expensive players in the history of our beloved THFC. 

I'll start with Erik. What is with this guy? Is he actually injured? Are we just not playing him because his initial form was so bad, that playing him more now could actually decrease his value even more? I don't think that we, the fans, have once been given an honest reason as to why he's been out for so long. 

I, like most of you, have read bits here & there that it is his back. So, exactly what is it Erik does? Well most importantly, is the fact that he can actually play! And apparently, once he gets a run of games and is settled, he's pretty good at it! For years I've been complaining about 'Azza' and his lack of end product, I think I'm right in saying that he has just 1 assist this season in the league this term - simply not good enough. He's a one trick pony, and that trick is speed. Lamela on the other hand, is a little more intelligent and cute when it comes to end product. The kid is not only quick, has an eye for goal, can bring others in to play with intelligent runs, is unselfish, and to top it all off, has a great work rate. 

I think the biggest problem with Erik this season has been that AVB didn't actually want him, that much I'm certain of. AVB wanted Willian, we missed out, Baldini panicked and here we are. I would be absolutely gutted if we sell him in the coming months. His first season has been, lets face it, an absolute disaster, but I genuinely believe he has bags of potential, I think that the right manager, playing a formation that suits him will work wonders for his confidence, and he can go on a blossom into the player we all thought he would be on 30th August 2013. 

So, in summary, Keep Lamela. 

Next up, Bobby! Why is it that I still really really like the man? He's missed uncountable amounts of decent chances, and if he'd have hit the ground running, I really do think he could be a 17-20 goal a season striker! The only thing he really lacks for me, is out and out pace. He's just about quick enough - That never did Teddy any harm though. 

Like Teddy, what Bobby has bags of, is intelligence. He can hold a ball up, he has shown he's prepared to run and run (far from his natural role in a team). He's showed passion when he's scored, and the players have shown it for him also. His only 2 goals from open play in the league, Villa & Cardiff, were both followed by the biggest grin I remember in some time, the second of the two, I genuinely thought he was about to cry! 

Something not a lot of news outlets choose to write about, is the devastating loss his wife & he suffered shortly after he joined. There is just no way that can't affect a man, he may be paid obscene amounts of money, but you just wouldn't be human if that didn't affect you. I saw a great interview with Addy just after Tim took over. Addy obviously lost his brother over the summer, and in short (and not word for word), he said: The loss is bound to affect you, when you're in the team, and scoring goals, that's where you want to be, it makes it a little easier to deal with the pain you're going through off the pitch. When you're not in the team, and not scoring, it becomes close to impossible. 

In summary, Keep Soldado. 

I believe that Eriksen, Lamela & Soldado can be very productive as a front three with 2 attacking full backs for width behind, a midfield three of Sandro, Paulinho & Dembele and I really think we could be in with half a chance of a great run, especially with no Europa League to distract us. 

Right, that's about it from me for this one, It's about time I actually did some work! I'm very much prepared to be shot down by more than a few of you, but, that's one of the many things I love about our beautiful game & team, it's all about opinions, very rarely will 2 of us have the same! It doesn't make me right, and you wrong, or vice versa....it's just how it is! COYS

Written by King26



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Writer:King26
Date:Thursday April 17 2014
Time: 6:04AM

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I'll GO First!.
Cider spurs
17/04/2014 06:39:00
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The worst thing we can do is break this squad up. When I say that I mean the following senior players - Llloris, Walker, Vertonghen, Chiriches, Sandro, Capoue, Dembele, Paulinho, Townsend, Lamela, Chadli, Siggy, Holtby, Adebayor, Soldado. Where the decisions need to be made are around the other players - Friedel, Gomes, Naughton, Dawson, Kaboul, Khumalo, Rose, Ekotto, Livermore, Lennon, Mason, Falque, Obika. We also have other new senior players for next season like Fryers, Carroll, Fredericks, Ceballos, Lancaster as they've turned 21 and realistic "free-picks" like Kane, Bentaleb and Pritchard.

Before we've even signed a single player we have something like 35 players to sort through. Some will just go as they're out of contract. Others will be sent out on loan as they're not established yet. As for the 2 in the article, I can see the logic for keeping or selling Robbie. I still think a decent manager will unlock him and he'll get back to his career average of 1 in 2. Some of his little touches and how his brain is working ahead of the defenders is a joy to watch. I just which he'd knock a couple in and get going. With Lamela, I cannot defend AVB. The best individual performance I've seen from a Spurs player this season was from him in the EL. It wasn't the toughest game but we all saw something there that really got us excited, something Lennon hasn't done for years. We have to gamble on him getting fit and becoming our superstar along with Eriksen.
muttley
17/04/2014 06:48:00
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Negredo hit the ground running and also scored in 11 consecutive home games..And now he's hit bad form and seems really devoid of confidence.I recently watched City game where he came as a sub and missed two one on one.Strikers are all about confidence.I think we should keep Soldado and be hope he comes good
SilwalYid
17/04/2014 06:54:00
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I believe we should keep all our 7 new signings. A few reservations however....Would a front three of Lamela, Eriksen and Soldado provide enough goals?, Is Eriksen's best position not behind the striker, same as Lamela?.

I'd sooner a 4-2-3-1 formation. This formation but with the inclusion of a WF, one who scores goals. Maybe Konoplyanka Left, Lamela Right, Eriksen or Lamela in the hole, with Lennon covering the Right if required. Soldado up top. As for the Midfield two, Sandro and Capoue would be the perfect foil for me. They offer the defensive element required to allow the forays forward by the full backs, both have physical presence, Capoue a great passer of the ball quickly getting the ball from back to front.

I've said it numerous times, I think centrally our team should consist and be built from Capoue, Sandro with Eriksen ahead. A truly great foundation in the Midfield to work from.

However, with all this said, If the right offers come in for the likes of Lamela, Soldado and Paulinho, I believe their is every chance they will be sold and replaced with Premier League proven talent. Shame because I often read an article stating how good Lamela was in the ferocious Argentinian derby Boca vs River Plate. He stole the show. He really is a talent, here's hoping we get to see this in our new Spurs kit next season.
Cider spurs
17/04/2014 07:02:00
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Keep erik and Robbie! Keep them all, we all know what we need to get the best out of them!

this is a great article. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you have said. I know many won't! These two, vlad and Christian were the signings I got most excited about! Closely followed by the other 3!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 07:07:00
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Keep them all as in the seven newbies! Get rid of some others, pretty much as Muttley said!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 07:10:00
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As reported by Sports Mole Thursday 17th April:

Tottenham Hotspur manager Tim Sherwood in reportedly under pressure to field Erik Lamela in the coming weeks, despite recently ruling the forward out for the campaign.

Sherwood claimed last week that the £30m summer signing was "probably not going to play again this season", but chairman Daniel Levy is said to be desperate to see the Argentinian succeed at White Hart Lane.

Following extensive injury problems, Lamela is set for a return to full training and there is a desire within the club for him to be handed a boost before the season ends, according to The Telegraph.

The same report suggests that Sherwood may not carry out the club's wishes to give the former Roma player game time, resigned to the fact that he will likely be replaced at the helm during the summer.
Cider spurs
17/04/2014 07:19:00
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Here maybe lies half the problem. The poor lad appears to have been used as a pawn at times this season. Settled?, I'd suggest pi$$ed right off!.
Cider spurs
17/04/2014 07:22:00
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It was interesting that Lamela's brother, Brian retweeted a message from a fan saying that Sherwood didn't seem bothered about Erik missing the World Cup and didn't rate him. His brother obviously thinks that's the case. With a new manager Lamela could be like a new signing next year as the cliche goes.
Glorygame
17/04/2014 07:32:00
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A fluid 3 of Lamela, Eriksen and Chadli (or Konoplyanka - I can dream!) behind a striker like Adebayor (or Bony or Remy - I'm still dreaming!) would be a very effective front 4. It would have power, pace, class and footballing intelligence in abundance. However if we keep Sherwood we'll end up with Lennon, Townsend and Kevin Nolan playing behind Andy Carroll.
SpuriousLife
17/04/2014 07:49:00
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There is no way of knowing how Lamela will perform until he actually plays some matches. The worry is not so much over his ability but his character and his injury record. Players have to want to play, they also have to be fit to play. Someone of Lamela's age with a back problem sets of alarm bells for me, we don't nee another ledley King. As for Soldado, if you aren't going to set up the team to suit him then he won't fire. I don't think he's good enough to change the whole team just to suit him.
jod
17/04/2014 07:59:00
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agree- Keep both! Was Lamela's form really so bad? yes he gave the ball away a couple of times and looked a bit tentative but there was enough there to show me he can can play (if his name had been Townsend in the EL he'd immediately be called into the England team!)....Soldado -we paid too much to get any return on him but he's good! It would help if we played him with someone on the left and someone on the right who could/would supply service to him! He does score goals...ask Ade penalties aren't automatic! his link up play for a 'box' striker is good....there is a list of players we should be selling before taking a loss on these guys starting with Rose and Townsend!
shedboy2
17/04/2014 08:04:00
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the only one of our new 7 we need to sell is chadli he has had more chances than any of the others and has produced the least they will all come good with a new manager but chadli must leave waste of 7m plus we didnt need him anyway we had enough mfs and winger types apart from him i agree with king26 coys
tottspur
17/04/2014 08:06:00
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Lamela's world has turned upside down. Loved by the Legion's of Roma fans, girls wanting to bed him, mum's wanting to mother him and loved playing regular football with one of the most iconic footballers in Totti. I just hope the reason he's not playing is down to a genuine injury. I can't help but feel he is leaving us. If he is I bet one of the conditions is not for him to play in fear of getting injured. Hope I'm just being paranoid. I just feel there is so much talent in this boy that he will become a darling for Spurs..:( COYS!
James1
17/04/2014 08:17:00
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for 7m Chadli is worth holding onto he's managed to force his way into Dim's team as a CM! he can't be all that bad....why anyone would want to sell any of our new signings before getting rid of Rose and Townsend I don't know? They are shocking players (at this level) who gift possession to the other side...neither of whom can tackle or head a ball...or cross or shoot ...
shedboy2
17/04/2014 08:17:00
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Its amazing how the comments a few days ago were about the lack of character in our squad. Now suddenly the only thing that matters is talent.
jod
17/04/2014 08:23:00
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James1- if he does leave not playing will be part of the deal...IF we've agreed to take a 'slight' loss and move him straight on....what a shame that would be though!...
shedboy2
17/04/2014 08:25:00
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I have it on good authority that the reason Lamela is unable to play is because of a fracture to his lower back. Its clearly not debilitating enough to stop him from doing keepy uppies in the park, but it's going to heavily hamper his performance in a professional football match. He needs to be rested until this issue is resolved and moaning about him not being picked isn't going to change anything. As for Soldado, he has been a square peg for a round hole. Unless we employ some proper wingers who can drill a ball across the face of goal so his predatory instincts can be used to full effect, we will never see the best of him here. If we are going to line up with wing forwards or deploy someone who can work well with Eriksen, then an Ade type or even Kane are abetter fit.
dave the yid
17/04/2014 08:25:00
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I will let you know now if he's going to succeed with the awnser to this question, has he learnt to speak English? He has been off work for months, can afford a private teacher (one of the best) and there is absolutely no acceptable reason that he doesn't have a basic grasp of the language. If he has it will have shown a commitment to settle, give him an ability to bond with his team mates and will have shown commitment to succeed. Bale gas been learning Spanish for years and that is why he was always going to succeed. If Lamela hasn't been bothered then sell him immediately because he will never succeed here
spurticus87
17/04/2014 08:27:00
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Jod - you have to have both!..as for his character who's deciding that it's not good enough? Dim? the kid was a success in Argentina and a success after moving to Italy...he has character...it's up to the coach to keep/get players into the zone...his induction hasn't been handled very well...
shedboy2
17/04/2014 08:29:00
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It would be shed..a genuine talent we could miss out on. Jod talent alone is not good enough as you well know! COYS!
James1
17/04/2014 08:29:00
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spurticus87- that's how I know Tim will never make it as a manager...just can't be bothered to learn English!..;)
shedboy2
17/04/2014 08:34:00
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I would like to see both Soldado and Lamela stay but I got a feeling Soldado might be sold. Lamela needs to be given a run of games and see what he is really made of. I don't know how serious his injury is but I don't think he is in Sherwood's plans and he won't play him whilst in charge. To his credit Lamela has not come out and said anything so his injury could the only reason for not playing.
Kong
17/04/2014 08:49:00
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Well put King26. It's a similar thread of dialogue a few of us have been having for a while - probably since February. We have a quality squad who have been bought together but have not been enabled to demonstrate their talent. This applies across the season.
As for Lamela - I don't know what's been happening there but there has been too many qualified people backing him and his talents to be "labelled" as unplayable by us.
If it's a serious injury he's recovering from then it was a pretty blasé and callous way the club's representative answered questions on him the other day.
Then I look at the posting made on the ether yesterday about a club directive put forward that the club wants Lamela to play this season (Cider referred to it) - I really look forward to that and thinks that'll happen - he was withdrawn for publicity duty.
I agree that ALL seven need to be given a TRUE chance to play to and demonstrate their talents that got them here....
As for the 'youngsters' who have turned 21 and yet to make a mark at the club - it's time to move on for their own sakes...

However all these discussions is all very redundant until we know who the manager is next season... we need confirmation of this vital component in the club's structure - a statement needs to be made - even if it's JUST to quell the very high frequency of rumours.
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 08:59:00
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I actually think that we signed seven very good players. With th right coaching and motivtion they should all prove to be a success. Having said that, if any of them are soldI think it will be Soldado. I don't think he fits the way we play or the way I expect us to play next season. If that is the case, Levy will have to accept a loss rather than try to impose him on a new manager. Some people on this site say that we won't be much of attraction for a top manager without European football which is a fair point. However, if you look at the talent in our squad then maybe some managers (De boer for instance) will jump at the chance to join us.
DoncasterHotspur
17/04/2014 09:01:00
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I'd like to think that Levy is already making moves for the next boss, and if that's the case (and I'm 99.9% certain it is) then I'm sure he'll be asking for their views on our current players. Surely most managers that are up for a move this summer, would be excited by the prospect of working with our current squad? There are 1 or 2 world class players there already (Lloris and Eriksen for me) and a good few more, who, with the right coaching, can go on and become world class. If you back yourself as a manager, why would you not want to take over this squad? obviously your Jose's, Pep's, Klopp's of the world will probably be able to go to a bigger club, but our squad must have more 'potential' than any squad in the league? I don't think I'm being biased when I say that either...City, Chelsea, Liverpool and them lot up the road are where they should be, Everton have been fantastic and deserve to be where they are, and United & ourselves have under performed this year. I don't know who the next boss will be, but I'll back them to get the squad playing much more successful football!
King26
17/04/2014 09:03:00
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Shedboy2 - agree with your postings this morning. I will add the name of Lennon to your list of Rose and Townsend. Too many false promises from Azza of me.
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:05:00
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In reply to CIDER - I agree, I think Eriksen' best position looks as though it will be behind the striker, and in a flat 4-3-3 he may be a little out of position, but I reckon that with Sandro & Capoue protecting the 2 CB's (we need Jan to step up), and another box-box man in there (Dembele/Paulinho out of current squad), Eriksen wont be stuck out left. Especially if we get ourselves a half decent left back. Defensively, I'm not Walkers biggest fan, but he'd be perfect in a 4-3-3 with the right midfielders in front of him, a mirror image on the other side would hopefully see Eriksen & Lamela make their way to the positions they want to be in?
King26
17/04/2014 09:06:00
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Highgatespur- I can see why Lennon gets added to the list but for me he's our best on the right at the moment...Lamela may surpass him but as we can see not yet (and not in a 442 though)...I think Lennon's replacing Townsend on the right had immediate impact....he's more a team player, much better defensively, usually provides more assists and whilst scores at about the same rate can frustrate by not shooting but by not shooting he doesn't gift the opposition the ball back as Townsend does...at some stage i really should get around to writing an article about how 'effective' our homegrown players are!...
shedboy2
17/04/2014 09:14:00
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Highgate - Agree, so much promise, but ultimately has delivered very little. If we can get 8-10 mil for Azza, I say let him go.
King26
17/04/2014 09:16:00
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Shed - that is an article I would enjoy reading....though I can already hazard (I wish!!!) a guess at to how it would pan out - how effective are our home grown players? Not very...
King26
17/04/2014 09:17:00
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Ossie reckons erik is the best thing to come out of Argentina for years! Who are we to argue with his opinion! Just watch you tube from last year and indeed this season to see glimpses of pure talent. We simply must keep him!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:17:00
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Everyone is up early posting on this one. Proof the article has hit a nerve with us. If he is fit and Tim doesn't fancy him, he is delusional.
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:19:00
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It is becmoing really hard to see how Soldado will turn it around. With Keane now preffered over him it doesn't look good, Sherwood obviously favours youth and maybe as a result Levy might regret the temporary gamble. That said he should definitely follow orders and play Lamela if fit enough, we need to give him game time to see if there is anything about him.

Keep Lamela, sell Soldado if we can get good money for him.

King you may have been right about Lennon until last week where I think he got all three assists against west brom - he has had an average season to say the least but so has everyone, lets hope he finds form again and goes back to scoring winning goals against the scum and liverpool again (last season).
T.H.F.Chris
17/04/2014 09:19:00
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I think that's what lennon has benefitted from the most in recent years. IMO we should ditch him to create the role into a more vibrant and influencing one. He is too willing to be a passenger! Btw I think after last Saturday his assists for the season has doubled to two. No way good enough...
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:19:00
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It would be tantamount to sabotage on his part! As was the way he treated Robbie after he got some confidence back!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:20:00
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My last post was in response to shedboy2.
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:20:00
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seems relevant to the thread and pretty accurate- http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/daniel-levy-to-blame-for-tottenhams-wasted-season-S11363893924532
shedboy2
17/04/2014 09:21:00
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King, don't forget holtby as a great option for a box to boxer!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:22:00
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Dublin, my point exactly - whose opinion do we go by? us fans who have seen next to nothing of him, the club representative who has shown he knows next to nothing in managing a team or a World Cup who knows Spurs.... no contest ....
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:23:00
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Shedboy2 and King26 - I fear that an article on 'homegrown talent', the biggest discussion would be on how we define 'homegrown talent' ....
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:25:00
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Dave the yid, so who's the 'good authority' ... sorry no name no value of the ITK - far too easy!!!
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:27:00
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It might not work out with Lamela but we will never know if we do not give him games. If fit these remaining games are ideal for him to get game time and settle him in properly. We do not know whether our potential new manager has plans for the squad or whether Sherwood will be left to destroy the team.
Kong
17/04/2014 09:28:00
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Highgatespur- that's easy - 3 years in the FA (of England and wales) before the 21st B-day!....Gylfi is a homegrown!...why people talk about British players I have no idea...the Scots are foreigners, just as exotic as south americans!
shedboy2
17/04/2014 09:32:00
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Lamela we NEED to keep. He has class and ability, it just needs to come out and he needs to adjust to the PL. A lot will depend on him as an individual, his character, his heart to want to make it in England, want to learn the language and want to become a star. If his heart is in it and he takes on the challenge then he is half way there. The other half depends imo on two things. The manager and coaching he gets and the formation we play, the latter has to suit him. For example I cannot see him being a winger in a 4 4 2 in the PL like Lennon. He needs to play a role that suits him and therefore we need organisation and a style and formation.

I want to see him in a spurs shirt regular.

Soldado, I make no excuses, I struggle with the guy. WHY - because I cannot stand a player 'ducking' out of challenges. No one can argue he doesn't do that, he does. I have heard the commentators say the same, sarcastically say 'Soldado wasn't going to make a challenge for that header' I remember it clearly, the ball was in the area there was him and an defender and he just looked at it. Didn't make a challenge and it wasn't even a BIG defender, a hard nut, or potentially a physical challenge, he just looked at it. he has done that so many times, yet he has a 'nasty' side to him when it suits.

It drives me mad seeing him ducking out, not making challenges and I also have another problem with him. So many times he would get the ball outside the area sometimes on the wing and make a short pass and stand still, he NEVER busted a gut to get into the box, yet he was our loan striker and supposingly a box player, he often does that, he lacks urgency. It is as though he was frightened to bust a gut that he didn't want it. May be it was psychological, not wanting to get into the box, the ball coming to him and him missing, or may be it was that he had made many runs in the box when he first joined and players didn't find him he stopped doing it. I think it was the former, he looked like he was shying away, just like he shies away from challenges.

Confidence is a key I agree, but if your low on confidence, out of form then the least you can do is challenge and bust a gut, keep going and just know that something will change. Nothing changes if you don't carry on.

Can we afford to carry someone like this.

Personally because Soldado drives me crazy watching him I would not be bothered to see him go. In fact if he is unhappy put him out of his misery, let him go back to what he knows. However, if he stays, I will not lose any sleep over him because with a proper manager in if he continues to perform the way I see him perform he will be dropped. The other concern about keeping him is if he doesn't cut it, his value will drop more and he will take up a squad place and there will be no money to get someone else in.

I guess I am saying, not bothered either way with soldado, I am happy to see who the manager is and see what he thinks.

If the new manager thinks he can get him going then another season I will live with, but I feel he needs to help himself more and start challenging going into tackles especially headers and keep getting into the box, bust a gut.
BeingIStoBe
17/04/2014 09:34:00
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Dublin - what would be tantamount to sabotage ? If I guess what you're talking about -0 everything he does, does that doesn't it ?

THF Chris - Lennon assisted with a great cutback for the second one on Saturday and that was it - doubling his assists for the season to a grand total of TWO!

IMO he's already done that!
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:35:00
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shedboy2 - my definition is that they were developed though our youth system ... Glyfi came to us a developed player so not home grown to me!!!
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:37:00
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shedboy-yep article is clear and precise. Funny how Levy can hold his nerve when dealing with finances but not when it comes to managers.
BeingIStoBe
17/04/2014 09:39:00
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Dublin, have to admit that last night's results gave a renewed hope for the Spurs and that we had a role in the development of GB!!!

Just goes to show that learning from mistakes does happen and coaching to improve from previous disasters - Sunderland lost 5-1 (to the mighty Spurs) - Gus obviously worked on improvements with players believing him- the result ? Next away game they nearly win at a top team but for a freaky goal!!!

Anyone taking heed in Enfield?

Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:44:00
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I rate Soldado, but he's got to up his game, its al very well doing clever touches but he needs to work harder getting into goal scoring positions. Standing in the same spot for 90 mins waiting for that 1 opportunity wont wash in the EPL. Lamela's situation is different but ive seen enough of the guy to believe he's definitely got the ability its more sorting out his head. Next season we should see a totally different player, its probably time to move Lennon on, agree with the article he's just not contributing enough in attack to justify his place at the moment.
coys1717
17/04/2014 09:46:00
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Keep both of them….i went through the whole “soldado out” phase but he has been a very good striker throughout his career. You don’t just turn $hi7e overnight. I think if we play him in a system he is comfortable in we will get the best out of him TBH. Neither AVB or TS has done this. Same goes for Lamela, he really has had a rough deal. You watch some of the footage from Roma and wonder what the F has gone wrong. AGAIN…its playing him in the wrong system. I hope whover come in looks at our squad and see’s the blaringly obvious 4-3-3 formation

Forget about the back for a minute and start in midfield. Paulinho – Sandro – Dembele or sandro and capoue with paulinho just in front or even Paulinho sandro Holtby. So many options. Then up top as a front three Eriksen – Soldado – Lamela or Eriksen – Ade – Lamela or Lamela – Soldado – Ade……..there are just so many options where we can play players in the correct phucking position!!!!
hudderspur
17/04/2014 09:53:00
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B2B one of the main reasons I enjoy going to the games live is I really dislike seeing the Spurs games through another's eyes or comments... If I have to watch Spurs games on TV, I tend to prefer a different language commentating. I find the commentators very biased.

In the games I have seen Soldado I haven't seen him overtly avert from any challenges... I seen him being on different wavelengths to other players... perhaps to address your observations and mine of Soldado's play we ought have a ex striker as coach - oh I forgot we do!

The coaches should be doing their jobs! This point demonstrates this need...
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 09:53:00
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Coys, he got dropped after a confidence building goal. He has shown his talents for Valencia and Spain! We haven't set up for his style once! Ie proper distribution from the wings and cms!
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:56:00
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Highgate, you got it in one! ;)
Dublin Hotspur
17/04/2014 09:56:00
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I fear the only way we will miss Europa League misery next season is if the Ar$e finish fourth, win the FA Cup and Manure win their game in hand. That way Hull get the third Europa spot - if the Ar$e finish fifth and win the cup then 7th place gets a Europa slot. What an unpleasant situation. Also, keep all the signings, give Van Gall (I hope) a full pre-season with them (plus either Bennie or a new LB - we don't need anyone else if Bobby hits some form and 'Arry Kane continues with his goals, although I would like to see us re-sign Caulker rather than see him languish in the Championship). I well remember how pants Modric and Bale were when they joined - Bale's story, in particular, mirrors young Erik's, and look where he is now ...
johnd0001
17/04/2014 09:56:00
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£26million for 2 goals from open play? Harry Kane has the same number from open play. Soldado must be sold he offers nothing to the team.
jordtheyid
17/04/2014 09:58:00
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Highgate - for obvious reasons, I can't name the source....
dave the yid
17/04/2014 10:05:00
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Not sure how Sir Les can be blamed for Soldado missing open goals. Is Ferdinand equally to blame for Ade and Kane's better goal scoring form? ;-)
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:07:00
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Look, Lennon has not had a good season. But whenever he starts season injured, it often takes a while to get him going. Plus he was played on left by BOTH AVB and Tim.... How on earth is he going to cross from there? He is not a great striker of the ball, so he has to be on his better foot. You say he has no end product, yet Eriksen does....? But Eriksen has 6 assists this season, and Lennon had 7 last season - I acknowledge that Lennon played more games. Lennon often is our midfielder with the highest assists. The end product thing to me is more to do with the strike force not making the correct runs. When Lennon had Bale to aim for last season, he got the most assists. This season he had Soldado who as you know, has not got on the end of much really. Harry Kane comes in, and Lennon finds him. Lennon IS an intelligent player. He just seems to disappear when nothing is on for him, but give him a fighting chance, and he is an asset. Either way, Lennon has 2 assists this season, and how many wingers can you name who has a decent amount of assists this season? Not as many as you think. True wing play is not very prominent in England right now. Under AVB, I was always suggesting that he should NOT play Lennon nor Townsend - especially with his style. The best teams playing 4-2-3-1 play with three attack minded midfielders behind the frontman, and not wingers. Width provided by overlapping fullbacks. It is no wonder that we scored so few goals, and Lennon had so little to aim for. In regard to keeping/selling players? Keep ALL our 7 new signings if they want to stay. If you look at the league leaders, Liverpool, they are not benefiting from new signings, it is the ones who have been there for more than a season... They are playing better now than they did in their first seasons for Liverpool. We know that the 7 we signed are talented, but they started in difficult circumstances. Much like how the gang of players we signed for Ramos couldn't get started, and improved massively in their second & third seasons - especially with change of management. Basically you cannot sell players after one year unless they are completely not fitting in. Soldado can be argued as that, but his fee and age make it more advisable to persevere. Keep them. Defense is priority for Summer as it was neglected last summer. Add some defensive options so that we have TWO true left backs, FOUR CBs plus Kaboul (if staying) and replace Naughton to leave TWO right backs. See how Kane develops toward end of season... Replace Friedel finally.
TonyRich
17/04/2014 10:07:00
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Dave the hid - then don't mention it - by naming an ITK without a name - is exactly that... useless.... I presume Dave the yid is not your name so how is this person guaranteed of your "confidentiality" - bit of nonsense for me!!! The obvious reason is that its all lies!!!
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 10:14:00
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By the way I completely disagree with BeingIStoBe summary of old Rubber Toes. I see a man who has worked hard to adapt his play to the PL but has yet to get there. I have seen him duck out of challenges, ones he would have almost definitely come off second best. This is a wise footballing head, in my eyes, knowing when, or when not to hold off. I say keep him.
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:14:00
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Man On! He's the striker's coach - at least expect him to work with all players to develop their style and so on .... no blame .... just an expectation to do their job surely ? Work with all I'd say...
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 10:17:00
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Highgatespur. Surely it's dave the yids prerogative not to mention names. Why can we not just give him the benefit of the doubt? After all most of us don't have a clue what's going on with Lamela. We can guess, I suppose.
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:18:00
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How do we know if Ferdinand is good or bad at his job? I certainly can't make that assumption. It is just an opinion, not fact.
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:20:00
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Should they stay or should they go? Well ENIC should most defiantly GO NOW! As for struggling players like Lamela, (ENIC nervous break down) Soldado (ENIC shooting boot curse) should not be judged until the football mercenary scrooge and Sugar's apprentice Danny Baby have sailed off on their ENIC tax free yacht with the half billion or so they will have stolen from THFC and the local community...
Pele10
17/04/2014 10:21:00
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TonyRich - not wishing to extend this strand on Lennon - I think he has had an appalling 4 seasons in my opinion - although you don't mention it ... his goals tally - not meant to score - I hear you know. For me it's time to stop giving Lennon the "hiding zone".....
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 10:22:00
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I don't even know what job Ferdinand does, does he assist Sherwood, coach the strikers, do nothing, who knows.
Kong
17/04/2014 10:23:00
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Anyway I say keep them both and watch them shine next season. This season has not been a good one to judge any of our new signings.
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:23:00
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I do not think Lamela's ability is in question. The problem as with most of this squad, is how to harness, develop and utilise it. I was hoping that Lamela would bring to our team something like what Silva does for Man City, or Oscar for Chelsea. Someone who can control the attacking flow of the game. The player who can produce a little bit of magic, that quick pass, bit of trickery, backheel, something out of the ordinary that makes these players a bit special. As for Lennon, he used to be one of my favourites, but seems to have lost his mojo, I think he has simply forgotten what he is good at. When we had the BAE/Bale and Walker/Lennon combo, we had the best attacking flanks in the league. now we don't get the ball out quick enough to the flanks, we don't have a left winger so our fullback does not overlap and there is a huge hole on the left. Admittedly, Bale used to go past the fullback at will, but Lennon also used to use his pace and get to the line. Now he seems to check, waiting for an option and how many times have we seen crosses go across the goal and no one there, when Bale used to arrive at the far post. Eriksen is not a left winger, we need to put Lamela there and play Eriksen off the striker.
vicspur
17/04/2014 10:25:00
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Man On! exactly that's all we can do - guess - let's not pretend otherwise, surely.
Highgatespur
17/04/2014 10:27:00
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Ferdinand has been a coach at Spurs for over 5 years.
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:28:00
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http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spurs/news/kaboul-im-close-to-my-best_150311.html
ghulamville
17/04/2014 10:34:00
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kabouls starting to make some stupid comments recently
ghulamville
17/04/2014 10:35:00
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Pele10... He has indeed...
MAN ON!
17/04/2014 10:38:00
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Good morning MAN ON! Levy has been a chairman at Spurs for over 14 years. ;)
Pele10
17/04/2014 10:38:00
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