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Spurs v Fulham: The Report.

All together now...Head, Shoulders knees and toes, knees and toes. Yep, 3 goals, a header, a foot, and a knee.

Well, here we are then, the last four fixtures. Four supposedly very winnable games, a chance to match our best Premier League points return of 72 points achieved last season. Seems kind of weird saying that when considering all the distraction and mediocre performances this season.

Anyway, Fulham at home. I suppose I'd better start with 'the Tweet.' Sandro tweeted prior to the team announcement that he would not be playing, although he was not injured. Tim's reply post match was that Sandro was not currently good enough to warrant a place, therefore not included. I am only going to touch on this, I'm sure there will be or has been plenty of fallout.

Now the way I see it, whilst I understand Tim's idea that an out and out DMer may not be required, relying on all round CMer types to do a little of everything, Is that Chadli?, he is not a CMer. This one move by Tim points to there being more to this than Sandro's footballing ability. Add to this, Tim's ability to retain certain players irrespective of mediocre performances and drop others and I start to find myself wondering is he more about if your face fits as opposed to ability.

3rd game in a row saw Chadli and Paulinho in CM, same as the last two games, average performance resulting in us being dominated in Midfield. Maybe a Sandro type is exactly what is needed, only had to look how shaky our backline was once more to realise a bit of grit ahead was required. Fryers who has played only a handful of times as CB, and Paulinho and Chadli to shield. Sorry, not for me, makes no sense. Fine if Tim chooses this formation, just feel it was a clear case of at least one wrong CMer selection.

For the record, I am a firm believer in a DMer allowing attacking types to concentrate solely on exactly that, attack. A bit of this, a bit of that adds up to, well a bit. Some may argue we do not need a DMer against the like's of Fulham. I disagree, why would a DMer stop us attacking?, for me it allows us the freedom to attack safe in the knowledge that a true bruiser is in behind mopping up.

Lloris...Great game, one of his best for a while. Few smart, quick reaction saves, palm over the bar and a penalty save to boot. Add to this shutting Rodallega out early doors and he again showed his class. Naughton...average, sorry, seen better, and needs to be better if to be a top RB. Kaboul...Very shaky, poor decision making at times, couple of good interceptions, one great tackle but as a result of his error in the first place. 'nearly back to your best' you say. Not yet Younes, not yet. Nicely controlled goal via his knee.

Having only played a few cameo roles for Man Utd at CB, I was interested to see how Fryers would pan out playing LCB in this match. Again, shaky springs to mind, positioned himself well a couple of times, but also put himself in trouble of danger a couple of times. I'll go easy, he had little protection, same as Kaboul, and to be fair he has only a handful of appearances in this role under his belt. Rose... (here it comes), I thought he actually had a better game than usual, not outstanding, but a little more reined in than usual.

Lennon...again helped out defensively, ballooned a volley way over, connected with another that was pushed smartly onto the post by Stockdale, and wait for it........Crossed for a goal. Not any old cross my dear friends, a bloody Left one. All this time, I've worked it out. He's Left footed. Paulinho and Chadli...As discussed, Chadli is no CMer, hard to comment, Paulinho, not strong enough in the first half, improved second. Ghosted in well at back post for his goal. I would like to see him take the game by the scruff a whole lot more. Our best work first half came when we actually bothered to chase the ball down, Paulinho being a prime example on Hangeland. A few others got involved and the result was Fulham hurrying into passes that were over hit and straight into the awaiting Lloris' arms. Prior to this Fulham were carving us open through the middle because we weren't shutting them down quick enough.

Eriksen...Yet again MOTM. Those deliveries, absolute top draw. (although he stated the second for kaboul's goal was a shot) He keeps the game flowing in the final 3rd, I just wish we had another in this mold further back who could shackle opponents also. We may have in Capoue. Will we see?. One thing is for sure. We must do our utmost to keep Eriksen. Ade...Kept dropping off looking for the ball, again same as last match, not his most effective. For me, Soldado should have come on sooner.

Harry Kane...Well done once more young man. 3 in 3. Danny boy will be rubbing his hands in sheer delight, 'What d'ya mean we need a striker, we've young Harry Kane.' Genuinely pleased for the lad, took a fair bit of flak without ever getting a run in the first team. Pleased he's been given the chance to show what he can do. Not a World beater as of yet, but 3 in 3 is a mighty fine way to get up and running.

Can't really comment too much on the subs input, not too much time to make a difference. Nice to see Soldado celebrating Harry's goal on the bench however. On the note of substitutions, when wishing to close a game out to secure the 3 points, would we not have been more sensible to shore up the Midfield and play one up top?. Just a thought. Would not have to sit deep and bring them on if correct players utilised.

Anyway, bit of a strange game again for me. Of course happy with the 3 points, but still feel unsure about the performance. A game of two differing halves once more. It's been a weird season, still in a position to equal our best points in Prem return, but still questioning how can this be. For me, yet another scoreline that does not paint the whole picture, so many of these games this season. Nice to hear the fans in full voice yet again, still somewhat disappointed that once more the performance was not exceptional and we have more player disharmony. We really could have something wonderful, but I am starting to feel that we are quickly becoming our own worst enemy once more.

Written by Cider Spurs.




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Date:Sunday April 20 2014

Time: 12:06PM

Your Comments

Think I'll wait a second.
Cider spurs
Sure am Firsty...off to get a cuppa!.
Cider spurs
Three or Coffee?.
Cider spurs
That's it...i'll four myself a nice coffee.
Cider spurs
Am I the only Surfiver?.
Cider spurs
You lot all Six?.
Cider spurs
Sooner Trainee Gunner Sherwood is gone the better, last thing we need is players of Sandro's quality and desire hounded out of the club. I was at the game yesterday and like Sunderland match, found the atmosphere like a pre season friendly. I had Paulinho to score first so not all bad.
Chelmspur
Seventh Heaven...A state of extreme happiness and joy.
Cider spurs
This ain't so greight!
Cider spurs
CHELMSPUR!!!!!!!!!!!.......Afternoon.
Cider spurs
Cider, sorry to stop your charge for 10 in a row, had I known I would have waited a second or two to post
Chelmspur
Never before have I wished a football season to finish. Love my football, but so disheartened with all the antics at the club at present. Next season hey, next season.
Cider spurs
WE WON! 3 more and out!
MAN ON!
Big debate amongst season ticket holders whether to renew. We have to 16th May, most feel like me the club should announce who will be in charge next season before we commit £880 of our hard earned money.
Chelmspur
Chelmspur...no need for apologies mate. I think Block D holds the record at about fourteen. Highgate also went to the game yesterday, he too said the atmosphere was subdued.

I just find it a shame that we are forever talking about everything other than the football relating to Spurs these days. fans of course have to be part of this, but not necessarily the reason. Decorum needs to raise it's head I feel.
Cider spurs
I'm not a season ticket holder but why not renew, regardless?
MAN ON!
It was a strange game.... I enjoyed it though.
MAN ON!
Chelmspur. Hi. Sorry, that ST question is for you. I genuinely don't understand why a supporter would not renew, regardless of who our future boss might be.
MAN ON!
Is a sorry state when more is made of the Trainee Gunner Sherwood comments than the play on the pitch.
Chelmspur
Man On its a lot of money if we are going to have more of the same I.e. Sherwood - no shape, round pegs square holes, manager favourites etc.. In all honesty I would rather be a member and pick and choose the games I attend
Chelmspur
I really cannot put in words how much loathing I have for Tim Sherwood. The rookie fool believes the only way he can justify his inability is to become a nationalist and thrash the reputation of his players.
roforofoSpurs
MAN ON!...At present i am enjoying them for what they are. I believe a better side yesterday would have blown our MF wide open once more.

That's not to say i did not appreciate the fact that we scored 3, secured 3 points. We still had to beat Fulham. I do however continue to see our same failings week on week, I am now just in more acceptance of this fact as the season stumbles along to it's conclusion.

Same as all, I'll hopefully be back, God willing, ready to support Spurs next season with renewed hope and expectations for next season. Regardless of Manager, I'll support, always have, always will!.
Cider spurs
I watched the interview after and also noted Eriksen's face when they were asked about Sherwood as a manager. Sherwood is not good enough to lace Sandro's boots in my opinion. This guy is spreading his cancer of negativity through our club. The longer he stays, the more players he will alienate and might end up with some of them wanting to leave. Get rid of Sherwood now, let Freund take over for the last 3 games. It is not rocket science now, we need 3 wins, the players know it, I can't see any reason for Sherwood to be there now. He does not or will not add anything to this team or club for these last 3 games. I am now convinced he knows he is going and does not care about what he says or does in these final weeks. Sherwood OUT!!!!
vicspur
Who cares? The season is over. Has been for at least 2 months. Sherwood is clearly an idiot and will be replaced. Until we know who is the next manager and which players are staying its all pretty pointless.
StillRickyVilla
roforo - I'm with you. No surprise to me that every player he has clashed with has been foreign. He has no clue about their culture, what motivates them and how they think. He's simply trying to turn them all into cockneys and if they don't comply then he ostracises them for weeks on end. Capoue was the first, then we had Holtby farmed out, then we had the Paulinho and Soldado clashes followed by Sandro. I think Chiriches is the next in line to get the treatment.
muttley
The only good thing about this season is the performance of liverpool. Have given all teams hope that if u put a proper manager in charge of a decent set of players and u get on a roll anything can happen. Lets hope sherwood hasnt done too much damage and we can keep this group together in the summer.
StillRickyVilla
Cider spurs. I agree. I'll be glad of a rest from it all. ;-)...Chelmspur. Okay thanks. But it means that you go back to the bottom of the ST waiting list, doesn't it? Sherwood could well be fired a few weeks into the season. The same as any other guy could.
MAN ON!
Nice write up Cider - thanks mate. We could have conceded 3or 4 goals yesterday surely a DM would have useful... a DM is needed at Stoke I feel - who to come in from the cold then ? No forward thinking in my mind - oh no ! will that look like a criticism to TS ?

People are holding off renewals as instant renewals may be seen as support of the events that are taking place now. Just seeing replay of the game on BT Sports - even game I thought ... a DM was needed...
Highgatespur
muttley - I agree and after he found that Nabil is Alegerian French - guess what happens ? If any dispute whether he knew Nabil was a 'foreigner' read one of his quotes!!!
Highgatespur
Highgatespur. So if Tim stays, you'll not renew your ST?
MAN ON!
vicspurs, totally agree but it ain't gonna happen and another sideshow will embalm the club I feel... the interview of Eriksen says a lot.....
Highgatespur
Man On! Not even entertaining the thought of your man staying - as you know not even entertaining.... one never wants to have a nightmare....
Highgatespur
Highgatespur. Okay but what happens if he does stay?
MAN ON!
Did I just hear Michael Owen say "great atmosphere around the ground..." says it all about his credentials as a commentator!!!
Highgatespur
What I'm trying to figure out is whether Sherwood has unconscious bias in the way he treats the foreign players. He might not even know he's doing it. Whatever it is, someone needs to let him know that he might soon be regarded as a racist if the patterns continue. He wouldn't want to be tarnished with that above and beyond just being incompetent at his job.
muttley
Man On! as I said not even entertaining / contemplating the thought.. quite a lot around me are saying why let a wannabe gooner with a tendency to act like a cretin, an imbecile give up on the team that I have supported for over 40 years and become a bystander fan ? An announcement will be made between 7-11 May and unveiling on the 12th .... we shall see....
Highgatespur
Levy might just surprise us...
MAN ON!
muttley. Please man.. Take a look at his coaching staff.
MAN ON!
Yup agree muttley. I am just pointing out the observances I have made... No one can understand nail playing all the difficult games and then getting benched for all the less difficult ones ? Any one understand that ? Xenophobia is one thing hard to admit to unless in the company of similar minded people, I hear ....
Highgatespur
Man On! Other than freund (who i haven't seen him talk to much) who else is a 'foreigner'?
Highgatespur
The madness has started again. Guys you're all so OTT! I have to laugh. Nothing personal, I don't know you anymore than I know Sherwood. ;-)
MAN ON!
ManOn! he may well surprise us by appointing your man... and you'll be rejoicing, do you really think ha'd be good for the club ? will you be getting a ST then ?
Highgatespur
ManOn! if you care less - why get so involved..... It's not OTT to highlight the similarities - try it yourself and if come up with any explanation - I'm sure I won't be the only to listen and respond. I'm sure you have presumed things about people you don't know before?
Highgatespur
He's not my "man", as I've pointed out over and again.. Whoever's in charge I'll still be supporting my team. I have no choice in the matter.
MAN ON!
It's the most ridiculous statement I've heard about the man and, a ludicrous reason for dropping Nabil. Not to say, slanderous.
MAN ON!
Man On! 'your man' is a term of phrase I've picked up from my Irish friends, nothing personal.
Highgatespur
Norwich gave it a good go but, the Pool carry on....
MAN ON!
Highgatespur. That's okay. I'm not offended... I've got a smile on my face...
MAN ON!
C'mon the Tigers of Hull City!
MAN ON!
man On, so you have an explanation for that and the other incidents ?
Highgatespur
Man On! you seemed to have offended - there you go - how mistaken we can be ?
Highgatespur
... I'm never as serious as I might read... Just refuse to use LOL after writing. Makes me feel too much like a teenager. (In the wrong way). Only use smiley's on here to not be seen as too serious...
MAN ON!
Chelmspur, I feel the same, not sure I can stomach another season with Dimwit in charge. I despised Redknapp in his last season with us for various reasons but never missed a game, I have missed quite a few this season, negativity and apathy is growing at an alarming rate at the Lane. Levy has dug a big hole for himself he needs to do something special to dig himself out of it. The irony is that table wise we are doing ok but the malaise is all too apparent.
ItalianYiddo
Sherwood has proved with his statement re. Sandro that as well as being a loose tongued classless novice, he is also an idiot. He wouldn't know a quality DMFer, if one bit him in the arse. The sooner Levy makes a definitive statement regarding who the coach will be next season, and gets rid of him the better. We need this clown out before he does some serious damage to a good squad. In the short time he has been in place he has managed to ostracise not only Sandro, but Paulinho and Capoue and Vertonghen appear to be less than happy. How dare he say "Sandro is not good enough to play for me", who the bloody hell does this clown think he is, the sooner he is blown out the better.
Frank
Because I put my own opinion, it doesn't follow that I'm offended. Sorry, I'm a bit too old school and working class for that, I'm afraid. It takes a hell of a lot more than football talk to upset me. I'm also a very good judge of character. (It comes with my job). LOL!
MAN ON!
Understood man On! Thanks
Highgatespur
Norwich definitely a little unlucky to not get a result. Come on, Hull indeed. Wonder if Sherwood is watching any footie today?
jerkinmahjurgen
Arteta tackled by advertising boards! Well, Hudd gave him a kick anyway...
MAN ON!
IY and Frank I fully agree with you - I wouldn't mind the issues being limited to football but all the other issues that come up on a weekly basis got to me - it was predictable and far harder to change than the footballing issues... I felt quite guilty at not even standing up for the goals!!!! Funnily enough not many around me did either ... although did cause a laugh when I heard to be praising Azza!!!!
Highgatespur
This report and then the comments after say it all about TS......... Thanks for the article Cider. Good summary of the game but no talk , apart from Cider, of the football in the responses. IT'S STILL ALL ABOUT TS
longtimespur
Sandro has shown that apart from being a good player in his position he also has qualities in short supply these days, commitment, loyalty and genuine affection for the club, the fans know, that's why he's such a big favourite. He's the sort of player that you want as part of the core of the team, not alienate him. He didn't have to make that tweet, he could have sat in the stand and still picked up his weekly wad, the fact that he did shows he wants to play, he's the type of player you want in your side.
ItalianYiddo
I've tried endlessly to discuss football on here recently. But I get waylaid myself.. I've asked many questions that have been ignored for the sake of TS talk... I get told off for suggesting we don't mention him..... LOL!
MAN ON!
Great to see Soldado getting 12% in the poll on the game. Maybe some are beginning to appreciate him and his problems since coming to WHL.
longtimespur
I like elements of Sherwood's persona. His frankness in interviews is a breath of fresh air, his promotion of youth players & to a degree his passion.

However, his ego is beyond a joke... Sandro hasn't been up to his normal high standard of late, however he was returning from injury. He deserved to be dropped for one game, but this is pathetic. Our results have flattered our stability on the pitch, now HAD Sandro been protecting our back line, its obvious our opponents wouldn't of had such freedom.

Sandro isn't in the WC squad, then add this nonsense with Sherwood, this has been a season to forget. That doesn't mean he'll be off tho, he knows like we all do, Sherwood is a temp. Next season will be one where Sandro is truly back!

Ok thats enough about that, the game!

Its a good job that a) Holtby was ineligible & b) we played Fulham... Lloris, Lennon, Eriksen & Kane were all superb, the rest were ok.

I'm glad Chadli is getting deserved game time, however he's not a CM, still he's doing his best, despite not playing in his correct position... Paulinho seemed to play his best game for too long, needs to up his game/attitude (but saying that the Clubs a mess, so HOW can we expect the best when theres so much confusion...).

I hope we win our remaining fixtures, that Kane keeps scoring & that LVG or De Boer or someone of genuine ability is named ASAP.

Sherwood will one day make a very decent manager, he lacks the experience of man management & isn't media savvy enough, not to mention he doesn't hold the valid qualifications... We as fans may not all like his position, however, we can't let this affect the final games. WHL has had very poor atmosphere's of late & that isn;t acceptable. Protest before & after matches, thats all our right, but to be so pessimistic in the Lane is unacceptable. Our away support is always very strong, its just a shame our home "support" is often missing. Is it any wonder we've been better on the road this season? Hardly... COYS
True Spurs Supporter
longtimespur. At least Soldado could afford himself a wry smile after his awful free kick.
MAN ON!
thfc1882whl. Maybe they're not as inept as we think?
MAN ON!
Man on, how can you not mention him when he makes one silly statement after another? You can see why the media love him and Redknapp, rubbish coaches but great material for filling pages.
ItalianYiddo
Good result, glad we won but as many have said it doesn't really mean anything, very much in shut down mode...... The Sandro thing is perplexing, Sherwood must be on his own thinking he's not good enough when chadli is??? Well done Kane, really glad to hear Soldado celebrating his goal, we need a manager who can get the best out of our players like him.
T.H.F.Chris
ItalianYiddo. I'm saying no more... Trouble is, I keep saying, I'll say no more. ;-)
MAN ON!
Pleased to see Lennon contributing more to the game yesterday. Some good runs, great cross for Kane's goal and his usual effective defensive covering duties. Remember once when they broke down their left and Naughton tracked the winger, Rodellaga ran free into the box and Kaboul couldn't get across then all of a sudden Lennon showed up and stopped Rodellaga's chance of scoring. Great work. 2 class free kicks from Eriksen again. Lloris was imperious, Kane energetic and took his goal well. Apart from that not brilliant. Defence exposed all game and beaten regularly by long balls. Need one DM at least. Still what do I know????
longtimespur
longtimespur. That's a good summary. That's how I saw it myself....Also, I can never understand why some don't recognise Lennon's hard work... He always get's stuck in.
MAN ON!
thfc1882, I'm not got to surprise anyone here but I disagree with you about the two inept managers, we would have finished the season strongly with AVB, my prediction was a cup win and 5th place finish with a coherent unit which would have payed dividents next season. The fact that he wasn't allowed to finish the season bordering on insane.
ItalianYiddo
ItalianYiddo... Agreed. But what would we talk about?
MAN ON!
Jake, so close!
MAN ON!
TS has delusions of grandeur in that he thinks he was a better player than Sandro is.. A Brazilian International... He is Harry's apprentice no doubt anymore, just not got the ability or experience of player, or indeed.. man management But Timmy's tactical awareness is getting close to Harry... Come on Daniel Levy, make your announcement now, and tim can walk and Steffen take over..Or even Glen Hoddle..
Block D Spurs
CL Quarter final. 4th, twice.....
MAN ON!
jerkinmahjurgen, I doubt it would do Sherwood any good to watch football today or any other day, he probably wouldn't learn anything, as the old saying says "you can't polish a turd".
Frank
Block D - I have been asking for that for a while - maybe he'll listen now!
Highgatespur
Basically we need a new manager. We have the players. But what top manager will come and work for levy? For all the talk of van gaal etc its likely to be another up and coming manager looking to make the next step up. Pity we missed out on martinez. He was the ideal choice.
StillRickyVilla
Man On.... I don't think he's always at the game and sometimes appears to get left out for long periods but he does work back well mostly. .... I'm afraid you and I are never going to agree on TS. I'm too old school to like all his publicity seeking and airing dirty linen in public.
longtimespur
A worrying aspect of our games is that Llorris is called upon to make important saves every game. You can expect this from your keeper playing the best sides not from mid and bottom sides, no plan, no shape.
ItalianYiddo
longtimespur... Fair enough..... He is just answering questions though. Nothing so extraordinary...
MAN ON!
I liked the energy from Paulinho and Lennon. The opening few seconds of the match were a noticeable improvement. 3 goals, 3 points. All with no Sandro, Jan, Dawson, Walker, Lamela, Capoue, Defoe. Take the good with the bad. Yesterday was a good day. Is Mourinho likeable? I'd say not. I'd hazard a guess and say he's always been a tosser. Way before he'd established himself.
jerkinmahjurgen
Lennon has been on and off, but so have they all.
MAN ON!
jerkinmahjurgen. Of course he was. They all have to start out being a tosser somewhere....
MAN ON!
Highgate.. I hope so.. I will be speaking to my ITK contact, who is a member of same Golf Club as Levy and co. So maybe Daniel will get the message..
Block D Spurs
jerkin, a manager doesn't have to be likeable, nor here or there. Tactically Mourinho is on his own, would have loved him at the Lane
ItalianYiddo
It took LVG a few years to become the highly respected tosser he is now... ;-)
MAN ON!
You have to give credit when it's due, Frank. After our last few starts I wondered if Tim had lost the players. As you know, if that were the case, it's irreversible. Yesterdays performance, in particular the effort from Paulinho, tells me that may not be the case. He and Lennon led the way with constant closing-down. Kane gets 3 in 3. Eriksen, if he has a message to relay, is not letting politics affect his football. And surely, if we win the game, any players not involved will have to stomach it? I'm not saying Sherwood is the answer - even if he is good I'm not sure we've the time to accommodate his learning-curves - or that we couldn't possibly upgrade this summer in a flash, but I'll give credit when I can. Did for AVB even though I never wanted him. Rose played better.
jerkinmahjurgen
jerkinmahjurgen.. That's how it should be man......
MAN ON!
Man On ..... there's answering and then there's making a point out of it. No need to try and make himself the person in the right all the time. Did you see Cardiff manager's post match or Swansea's. Both new managers!
longtimespur
Italian, there is no plan. They are a bunch of individuals playing for themselves. I actually thought fulham looked more like a proper team and but for lloris saves and a couple of amazing set pieces from erikssen it could have gone either way. The ease by which teams can now cut through us is scary. I dont know what levy has up his sleeve but it needs to be pretty damn good because the fans are losing faith. No chance of filling a 55000 stadium week in week out as things stand. West ham coming up fast on the rails. Enics ultimate legacy might be to take us from one of the two top teams in london to the 4th team. They might only have one last chance to get the manager right AND trust that man to get on with it.
StillRickyVilla
Gotta change with the times. Taboo is so no. Alongside the world of social media and within a field of the highest scrutiny levels you're likely to encounter, maybe being unfazed by how youngsters communicate is a good thing? All this privacy nonsense usually has one intention. To shade people who treat others unfairly. To not care who knows what is a good, honest trait to have. And very modern.
jerkinmahjurgen
Jerk, the players are not playing for sherwood. They are playing for their world cup places and potential summer moves. I see nothing resembling a team there.
StillRickyVilla
Haha man on, great assessment of LVG...
T.H.F.Chris
StillRicky.. you are right there.. TS has lost the dressing room after the chavs game media verbals...
Block D Spurs
longtimespur. I prefer a man who's more dignified, if you like, but I'm also not offended by Tim's outspokenness. If I was, I wouldn't defend him. In my mind he could conduct himself more diligently but, that's obviously not his way. I don't see that it matters as much as others do. I wasn't a fan of how Harry conducted himself but was very happy with our football and results, in the main. That's all I care about.
MAN ON!
Getting the performance is key, more so than where it came from. I doubt Sherwood gives as hit what Eriksen thinks of him. Sandro was a little aggressive and trouble-seeking with his tweet. It's not so much 'why should Tim act any different?' It's more you know damn well he'll meet it head on. Publicly. The Beast versus The Sherwood. He's very much improved his pitch-side manner.
jerkinmahjurgen
View from block 50 r1.... amazed myself getting to the ground at 1240 having left home at 1150 to do the 6 mile journey... seemed like this part of north London were all on holiday...
Enough time to take a photo of the future(Sainsbury's and UTC) and the ones that blocking our future (Archway Steel) from the stairs to the top of North Stand...

A number of empty seats but late comers show it wasn't that many missing nut why did it feel that way?....
wasn't shock to the team selection... no DM but they are Fulham ... hang on 3 vs WBA last week...

The dreaded five minutes passed no goals conceded 10 mins... 15 mins phew...

Azza hits a post WOW!!! Eriksen takes a free kick and a goal - Paulinho is that right ! well done first at WHL... Breathe easy ... soon after kaboul makes everyone on side, Fryers plays one two with Sidley and 1-1.... they could have been 3-1 up by now... we did need a DM to cover for the CBs... but still thanking for small mercies - level and no goal conceded n the first 5 minutes....

Gary Mabs did his best to uplift the crowd at half time but no success...

Azza's great cross leading to Kane's 3rd in 3.... pleased for Kane but mightily impressed with Mr Blud... Eriksen free kick after Rose's somersault - GOAL off Kaboom's knees - thought it was going in anyway - WRONG!!!

Adebayor's new midfield role continued - and now as the DM? at times he was behind the CBs!!! On whose authority is he doing this ?
Azza seems to be everywhere in an effective way - on the right, on the left, at the back, at the front, running at pace and skilful crosses actually reaching the targets... Wow why all this change ? - did Azza read Vital Spurs in the week ? Was Adebayor trying to imitate him ?
Few more opps come by for Fulham - great saves by Lloris - a finger tip away and then clawing away a kick just in time and then the penalty save - wow HUGO!! HUGO!!! HUGO!!!!
We could have actually lost!!! Nah...
Soldado came on late to show what Rose taught him by launching an exocet missile - heading towards the NCR or was it the Archway ?

In the dying embers of the game there was Azza pressing for the ball midway through our half... WOW welcome back - long may it continue......
Also thought there was improvement shown from the FBs, Paulinho and Kane
Nice calm match - with no over zealous actions on the touchline - great, will be able to enjoy the reflections without any distractions... then I got back to the car and listened to TalkRadio... oh no!!!

MoM - Eriksen; Azza Blud= 8/10...

Highgatespur
We're on our way to being the next Liverpool. They're all attack! attack! attack! and get nothing but acclaim. Plus they've Suarez, of course. Crap defensively, yet Brendan's the in thing. I think we're trying to play a similar way. Concentrate on your attacking strengths and try to outscore the op.
jerkinmahjurgen
Highgatespur.. Simple. Don't listen to talk-*****e-radio! ;-)
MAN ON!
Block D, good on you ! I thought you might have contacts sitting in the West Stand sitting near your man !!!
Highgatespur
Man On! The point isn't Talkradio - it was everywhere .... Radio5 , radio London you name it, it was on it !!! Oh wish life was so simple!!!
Highgatespur
I usually don't myself actually listen to Tim until other's have pointed out how annoyed they are by him.... Don't listen to what you don't want to hear. No one is forcing you.
MAN ON!
Highgatespur. I wouldn't know. I listen to radio 3, if anything....
MAN ON!
Hull, saving themselves for the cup..
MAN ON!
People in the know,can we embed a picture here and if so how is it done please ?
Highgatespur
Man On! Smehow I don't think that's true - it's good to hear how the other perceived the game - I don't have the luxury of streams/tv at the ground....
Highgatespur
Just look at that ... bloody Hull! Talk about sending a cub to do a Tiger's job. They might as well hand them the FA Cup, now.
roforofoSpurs
Man On ! Sometimes we could do with listening to our own advice!!! btw at the game I had no idea about the twitter .... so I wasn't looking for it!!! Enjoy the game - if yu can pull yourself away from R3 - too intellectual for me!
Highgatespur
Could do with a United win now.
jerkinmahjurgen
Just to keep the confusion levels up.
jerkinmahjurgen
Jerk, if memory serves ne right - we used get right ole rollicking from the media for not being at the defensive - the right team is doing it for the media!!!
Highgatespur
The media can think what they want. Makes no difference on whether it's rampant 'Pool, robotic Chelsea or borin', borin' Arsenal at the top. TS IS the media ;)
jerkinmahjurgen
I can see Eriksen trying something similar...

http://talksport.com/football/video-ex-man-united-and-tottenham-striker-nets-incredible-goal-france-14042088050?
Highgatespur
Timmy has established a pattern of speaking publicly about the players, so he's opened things up for the players to speak publicly. Are the players expected to be abused and humiliated in public and to remain silent? If the team thinks that the players should be silent, then the team should not allow Timmy to be public in what he says. A big up to Sandro for Tweeting that he was not injured. Timmy must go. If DL isn't ready to make the announcement on the first day after the last match o the year, then he's hit a new low in his tenure. Timmy is tactically useless and without man management skills. That's most of what his job is supposed to be about. I'd as soon see Christian Gross back as see anything of Timmy other than his backside.
Falstaff the Fool
No DM when it's Fryers and Kaboul at the back? Even though it's vs. Fulham that choice was utter madness. Does Timmy think that all of our attacking players should be tracking back all the time to shore up the missing defense? Madness.
Falstaff the Fool
To know if Tim has lost the changing room, you only needed to see erik send reaction to the question of how Tim is as a manager in the motm interview! Who ever asked a player that anywAy???? "So how is sad doing as a manager Wayne?"
Dublin Hotspur
Sad = SAF
Dublin Hotspur
Let's imagine that we could decide who would be with Spurs next season: Timmy or Sandro? Who in his or her right mind would prefer to lose Sandro and keep Timmy? Apparently Timmy would keep only Lloris, Eriksen and Adebayor and get rid of the rest. He's doing what he can, player by player, for them to want to move on. Here's hoping Timmy lands on his feet and finds a job tossing dust bins into the back of a lorry next year.


All is rotten for Moyes at Everett right now. Man U is sinking. 2 x 0 at the Toffees.

Falstaff the Fool
Dublin, and to think some people tend to give some credit to the commentators, pundits and the interviewers!!!! Yorke is a joke!!!
Highgatespur
Well, Falstaff you know my thoughts...
Highgatespur
Highgate, you need to save the image on a website (some free picture storage host...there are a few about). Once you dome that, I can attempt to give you the html code. Be careful though, if you get it wrong, Ox will go ape!
Critical_Spur
Thanks Critical - sounds too complicated ... it was of the Sainsbury's, college and Archway Steel.... Ah well... thanks though
Highgatespur
Critical...Do you know how to remove a post once submitted?.
cider spurs
The next best thing to removing a post once submitted is to post an apology. lol.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff...That has already been forwarded to Ox. It's not malicious or anything of that nature, just something I did not intend sharing.
cider spurs
what post is this Cider ?
Highgatespur
Brilliant martinez today. What a class act.
StillRickyVilla
not good for moyes again, will utd stick with im for next season?
123spurs
Highgate...If I said, it would leave privacy somewhat copromised.
cider spurs
cider, TOU/WE can't remove the post. It's on Vital server. Ask Ox!

One of the issues I have re this forum, i.e., no edit facility. Also, would love to see a date/time stamp against posts....makes it easier to navigate. Yet abuse button was introduced!
Critical_Spur
TOU ?!!!.. Lol! Good example of the need for EDIT!. YOU.
Critical_Spur
Looks like we will get european football again. Play the 2nd string in the group stages and start taking it seriously in the knockouts.
StillRickyVilla
cider spurs, you've doubtless now started a few people on a mad chase through your posts to discover what you wrote that you wish you hadn't. hope no one finds it.
Falstaff the Fool
Re: the Report Abuse button. The large amount of abusive comments is what keeps many coming onto this site. LMAO.
Falstaff the Fool
Two standout points I note in Everton's play. FAST pinging passing and closing the oppo down. That's how we played under Harry. Out passing is lethargic nowadays and often easily intercepted.
Critical_Spur
Falstaff...Ox or the powers that be have taken care off my problem already. Back to concentrating on the Easter Egg hunt as opposed to my post. I may yet divulge the error of my ways.
cider spurs
SAF truly was a smart fellow. He knew exactly when to retire as his team was about to crumble. Now he is retired with his reputation intact and the reputation of David Moyes instead about to rumble down the hill like an avalanche in the Himalayas. Moyes might be just the sort that DL would like to sign to replace Timmy, as he may sign on the cheap as he has a crumbled reputation as the manager of a ruined Manure.
Falstaff the Fool
No need to divulge your errors, cider. You'd then have to ask Ox to remove what you've divulged. Sleeping dogs and all that. Whatever it was, I'm sure I missed it, and that's fine with me.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff...And Timmy retires with his reputation in tact. ;-)
cider spurs
If our 'new' man has been identified and preliminary formalities completed, best get it announced pdq after the season, before the manager merry-go-round gets in to swing. I'd hate to see the 'new' man's head turned by something more lucrative. We can't compete against United, Barca, RM, Chelsea.....and there may well me several more!
Critical_Spur
If Spurs can win the last three matches, it will be fine with me for Timmy to leave with his head held high and his tail wagging. And our new manager, David Moyes, can lead us into the Europa next season, which he might well miss if Manure fails to fire him.


Please, don't rake me over the coals over this one, I'm just writing tongue in cheek, as it were. After all, why would Moyes sign for a team that ended up higher in the standing than the one he's been managing? Oh, wait, that's what he did last after last season. How'd that one work out for you, lad?

Falstaff the Fool
Pleased for your Cider - thought it was already posted!!!
Highgatespur
Cider now has the distinction of being the sole poster whose blunders go unnoticed except for his mentioning them without revealing what they were. A true VS accomplishment. MoTM: Cider.
Falstaff the Fool
I wonder if the Man Utd board trust him enough with £200 million to spend?. Where they get this figure from of late?, FFP...£200 million?.
cider spurs
Highgatespur. Nothing intellectual about radio 3, it's just music.... Life is not that simple, I suppose. Not as easy as turning off the radio or TV....... The beauty of music is that you can watch the soccer at the same time. Most of the commentary does my head in.
MAN ON!
The other difference Critical is the manager wasn't eyeing up another job - or do I hear Barca calling ?
Highgatespur
"We can't compete against United," Critical.


I'm not sure that this will be the case going forward. The Glazers have made a mess of United's finances and SAF is gone, so it's not implausible that United have started on a road to decline. They still have a big name, but for how long remains to be seen. I'm not saying they will decline, but there are reasons to think it possible. Reputation is worth only so much when there's nothing more to back it up. Liverpool got a basically intelligent American owner in John Henry, but the Glazers are something else. The United supporters trust knows not to trust them.

Falstaff the Fool
After todays results it looks like we'll have to settle for 6th then. Ah well......
MAN ON!
whoever takes over, has a great fan base and a great job and a great oppertunity to make a name for themselfs, now next season will be toughter, we all thought top 4 was a cert cause of man u an pool
123spurs
Falstaff...Cider Spurs...16 stones of stealth.
cider spurs
If we finish 6th and Woolwich Wanderers do the unbearable and win the FA cup, does that not mean the Europa starts pretty damn early for us?. Any idea's when?.
cider spurs
Just to balance some of the vies re Tim's interviews/comments. This one I feel fair and accurate:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9274964/premier-league-tottenham-are-desperate-to-keep-hold-of-world-class-hugo-lloris-says-tim-sherwood
Critical_Spur
Falstaff... Not only did a few of VS posters want Moyes at Spurs, but many say that we could also be in decline. (Moyes should not be fired after 1 season and I'm sure he won't). Spurs will only rise, in my eyes... Up the Lilywhites!
MAN ON!
cider spurs... For Spurs It will start in the second half of the first qualifying match....
MAN ON!
Cider - mid to late July!!!!
Highgatespur
My mistake...We will most probably enter the Europa as a result of Man City winning the League cup and qualifying for Champs League.
cider spurs
Well, David Moyes finally got to see Everton do the double over Utd. As for us, what chance is there that martinez would be tempted to leave Everton for Spurs???
vicspur
Cider, but I think we may have kudos points over our past involvement in Europe and might get get a bye... but who knows!
Highgatespur
Wouldn't want him to, vicspur....
Highgatespur
Europa...3rd qualifying round (that could be us). first leg 31st July, 2nd leg, 7th August.
cider spurs
No to moyes. We just made the mistake of hiring a manager who had just failed (avb at chelsea). Avb spent the whole time trying to win over the fans - he never stood a chance. We need someone on an upward curve whos coming off the back of relative success and is progressive. Dare I say it someone like martinez or rogers. Its a pity lambert doesnt seem to have progressed with villa. There are doubts now about laudrup after being fired at swansea. Im scratching my head really. Hoddle is up for the job but im not sure we should go back. Pottichino or whatever his name is would be a major gamble and we might as well have kept avb if we get him. I cant see the major names of euro football coming to us. Levy really has put us in a hole.
StillRickyVilla
If Everton finish 4th, which is not out of the question, why would he leave, or them get rid? Even if they finish 5th or 6th he's done a good job so far.
MAN ON!
Based on us finishing 6th.
cider spurs
Just realised we are +2 in goal difference now - can we end at +10 ?
Highgatespur
MAN ON, surely if the worst comes to the worst and Dim stays, how will we progress. He would drive away most of the foreign players, he seems to have some xenophobic problem with them. He has stated he prefers "effort over ability", so we would probably be transformed into a Pullis like Stoke City side. There is one thing we wouldn't need a new stadium then, nobody would want to watch us. The key to any progress at Spurs, as Liverpool, and Everton pull away from us, neither spending huge amounts, is to 1) get the right manager in, and 2) allowing him to build HIS team without any interference from the suits, none of whom have any football knowledge anyway. If we get this appointment wrong, at the 9th or 10th attempt, then progress or recovery will be impossible.
Frank
Critical...Well done mate. Only fair to post some Sherwood comments that paint him in a more positive light IMO. I stand by my thought that he needs to improve his all round coaching, but a Witch Hunt does not interest me.
cider spurs
StillRicky...Tony Pulis?.
cider spurs
Frank.. I'm just being stupidly optimistic, based on the very good players we have. I very much doubt that TS will be here after the Summer anyway.
MAN ON!
Joking!...Although I have seen his name mentioned by some.
cider spurs
Man on I meant someone like martinez. Of course that ship has sailed. I really cant think of anyone now. Its a mess unless levy has some cunning plan which I v.much doubt.
StillRickyVilla
StillRickyVilla. I know.... Sorry, I was responding to vicspur's post about Martinez being tempted by Spurs.
MAN ON!
With regards to David Moyes at Man Utd. A bloke who achieved what he achieved at Everton, with no money, doesn't become a poor manager over night. In truth he got dropped in at Man U, when Ferguson timed his retirement to perfection, leaving behind largely a spent force with the likes of Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic, Carrick, Young, Nani, close to or past their sell by dates, Cleverley, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Rafael, Kagawa not really good enough, Van Persie then gets injured, Rooney has his triannual strop with the club to get a rise, unsettling things again. All these factors have conspired together to signal the largely inevitable fall from grace in the PL and cups. The only thing I think Moyes can be held at fault for is breaking the continuity of the coaching regime, getting rid of Phelan and Co, this meant that the players had to get to know, and listen to, and respect, new coaches. If he is allowed to spend the necessary cash to rebuild the ruined team, I think he will be back.
Frank
After all the speculation we'll end up with dear old Chris Hughton at the helm with Kinnear as his No. 2! Great Spurs players but not the very best of PL coaches... Still.
MAN ON!
Frank. I think that's a fair judgment of Moyes and United.
MAN ON!
Cider lol! The daft thing is pullis would prob get results but he would never ever be accepted by fans and players alike. Interesting to hear hoddle saying yest he still has a good relationship with levy and that the club is totally different now to what it was before. Hoddle with hughton back as assistant. Levy might play the returning hero card to get the fans united and back onside. Big risk in going back to someone whos already failed and im not totally convinced by hoddles man management skills on a daily basis on the training field. But he knows his stuff and is a lot more experienced now. Might be our only option and we get on with it and hope?
StillRickyVilla
Tony Pullis at Spurs? Do we really think we are likely to get that close to the relegation zone, to need Pullis to exercise his trade mark expertise, avoiding relegation. With regards to trying to push onwards, and upwards, with the possible exception of Sam Allardyce, I couldn't imagine a worse choice. Come on lads for Christ's sake lets have more ambition.
Frank
I wanted Hoddle when AVB was fired but what I find strange is why he doesn't get offered jobs in management anymore. He got two high profile jobs out of nowhere, with Chelsea and England but nothing since. Not only did he offer himself to Spurs, he did the same with Chelsea when they fired AVB. He expressed an interest in going back to Stamford Bridge then.
MAN ON!
Frank, it is true what u saying about moyes. Its the impossible job. But that the stigma of failure would be fresh in everyones mind - fair or not. Exactly same with AVB - the most sought after young manager in world football given the impossible job of ditching the terry, lampard mourinho core - failed and never recovered, accepted or given a chance at spurs immediately after. At least AVB out of the toxic, interfering atmosphere at spurs - now a title contender in russia, CL football every year and about to move into a brand new 70000 stadium next season. And people say hes taken a step down - lol!
StillRickyVilla
Frank, I think you are overdoing it re Pullis. Have you seen Palace play recently?! Seriously, he has a different set of players at his disposal at Palace, compared to Stoke. Also, imo, he has learnt from his time at Stoke. I am not his fan and would prefer A.N. Other to replace Tim. As things are (or have been of late), ANY ONE would be better than TIM. In fact I would be happy to risk a managerless Spurs in the last 3 games!! I have said before, I'd been happy if Steffen had been installed as the interim boss since AVB was sacked. If any one deserved a chance, imo, it was Stef.......just for the sake of continuity.
Critical_Spur
Hoddle has made some very good points of late concerning playing style, formations, the club in general. I still believe he could offer us something, but part of me is concerned about he would actually get his points across. He has talked alot of sense lately, problem being, if I understand it, then it must be utter bo//ox!.
cider spurs
My vote for our next manager would be David Icke. We need to find someone that is slightly less in denial about who he really is and more credible in TV interviews.
muttley
The Stoke brand of football is what many associate Pulis with. My thinking, everybody said Stoke away was a tough place to go and try and get a result. Heck, I'll have some of that Spurs hard to beat at home, Pulis now has Palace playing some lovely flowing football, yep!, I'll have some of that.

Might not be as daft as first thought.
cider spurs
Frank you have just proven why pullis would never get any where near the spurs job because he would immediately be faced with that exact negative reaction from fans before he even started. Would be a failure before he even started. Not saying we should hire pullis just making the point on the power of fans support or otherwise. Maybe we should bring back hoddle with hughton as defensive coach/assistant? A big risk but at least they would get the unanimous support of the fans.
StillRickyVilla
Levy's got you all going again, blaming his personally appointed DIM! Just what Danny Baby wants! Lets the total LOSER of the hook again! Blame the coach and predict who LOSER Levy's next coach will be, who of course will be doomed to fail whether another DIM or a genius? Makes no difference, because every coach fails with a DIM chairman ruining the team and the club! We are almost certainly out of all European football completely next season, have failed to win anything, or even reach a final and players such as Pauli and Sandro etc etc are about to be sold and your all moaning about DIM, when there should be a major ENIC out campaign happening! We have taken 14 seasons of that DIM chairman and the scrooge ruining this great club, and yet no major protest??? As thfc1882whl rightly states "Sherwood is only the symptom, ENIC are the disease". ENIC CANCER OUT!!!
Pele10
"Falstaff... Not only did a few of VS posters want Moyes at Spurs, but many say that we could also be in decline. (Moyes should not be fired after 1 season and I'm sure he won't). Spurs will only rise, in my eyes... Up the Lilywhites!" MAN ON!


My point about Moyes and United was that he will be viewed as damaged goods and SAF as the brilliant retired manager, but SAF was smart enough to retire because he knew United was about to collapse. Further, the Glazers are not good owners who care about United, but have saddled United with a big mess. So, I've nothing against Moyes, and see him as having been done in this season by lousy circumstances. If DL can get him at a bargain price, he might not be a bad idea at all.


As to whether Spurs are in decline or not, that depends on what happens next. Timmy stays and the rot sets in seriously. If Moyes comes in, there's a decent base of players with which to work. I'm not suggesting that we hire Moyes, but we certainly could do worse. Indeed, we certainly are doing worse right now.

Falstaff the Fool
MAN ON! I saw Fantasy Football show with Glen Hoddle as guest. He turned down a few jobs, one recently with Monaco. He almost got the interim position and spoke to Levy on a few occasions. This was the one job he wanted. He is happy as a pundit and doing stuff around football..his academy as an example. COYS!
HOD_GOD_10
MAN ON!...Only on Saturday (fantasy football, SS1) Hoddle was telling fenners and Merson that he regluarly gets offered management roles, but he is happy doing the punditry at this time.

He did however state that he offered Levy his services until the seasons end and then would sit down and review where they both thought the role should be heading, under Hoddle or another appointment. Hoddle did state that he would not offer this short term role for any other club than Spurs, he went on to say that some of the positions he has been offered he has given very serious consideration to.
cider spurs
I think Raffa would be a good fit for us next season, Prem experience and a winner, fact!
Thats Entertainment
muttley. Icke!? Former goalkeeper and sports commentator. Currently employed by Aliens United to spy on the establishment and expose them to the world as lizard people. Good shout! ;-o
MAN ON!
cider and hod_god twins?!
Critical_Spur
HOD_GOD_10 and cider... Cheers. I didn't realise Hoddle had been offered anything. It's no surprise to me that he has, now I know.
MAN ON!
Here you go here's yer' man!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F9q2w79pA4&feature=youtu.be
cider spurs
Falstaff the Fool... I did realise what you meant about Moyes. I just picked up on it......
MAN ON!
HOD_GOD_10 and cider.... A 1970's American kids TV show?
MAN ON!
Haha! If Icke can fill arenas, then why not WHL!?
MAN ON!
Keeping Timmy, though, would likely be the beginning of a serious decline. Players would jump like rats from a sinking ship. We've got a good base of players now, and a decent management could build something good from this base. Timmy is not the man for that job.


As to Moyes, do we want someone with that strange foreign accent? Aren't the Scots about to vote to leave the UK? If we want an exotic foreign accent, why not go for a Portuguese or Italian accent? Knowing DL he's probably trolling Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan for a low rent manager. Perhaps a Ukrainian manager right now would pay to join us and then work for minimum wage plus tips. Perhaps a Shevchenko cousin.

Falstaff the Fool
Ukrainian? Jesus is our man! If Ickes not available of course. Is Jesus Ukrainian? He works there. Near enough. Tim don't like him.
MAN ON!
Thats entertainment nice idea re.rafa. except again I doubt the fans would accept his avb continental type tactics the knives would soon be out at the first sign of trouble. Thats the problem with our poisoned chalice of a job. Also napoli are about to qualify for CL and play in a 60000 stadium in the sunshine. Are u sure he would ditch that to join daniel levy in n17?
StillRickyVilla
StillRickyVilla. Maybe it's the PL that will be the pull for someone like Rafa, as much as Spurs might be?
MAN ON!
For the loser now will be later to win --Bobby Zimmerman


So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen --Jesus the Christ


A loser is a dumb bitch who uses the wrong hand to make the "L" symbol on her forehead --someone I heard on a bus the other day.


Many expressions fit a job search being conducted by DL

Falstaff the Fool
We need the Botham and Bob spirit at Spurs........
MAN ON!
Falstaff..."Players would jump like rats."....I'd suggest a laboured move sideways toward starboard. Maybe even a slow saunter back toward stern.
cider spurs
The answer my friend is blowing in danny's wind.........
MAN ON!
50 years of BBC sport.. Anyone watching it. It's on the BBC. BBC Heaven!
MAN ON!
Botham and Bob Spirit. Drunk most things, never tried that!.
cider spurs
Is Inverdale related to Icke?
MAN ON!
The answer is blowing from Danny's nether region, and Danny will sell it as a sweet smell. The size of the pay check will drive the signing of a manager. An undocumented alien who will work for food would be preferable to him. Perhaps an indentured servant, or someone with a contract promising manumission if the team avoids relegation five consecutive years.
Falstaff the Fool
cider spurs... On or off the rocks, it does the tricks....
MAN ON!
I honestly believe Benitez will be the next Spurs boss, I can't imagine Levy will risk going for someone unproven in the premier league and that limits the pot somewhat. Wouldn't be the worse move in the world..
Clivetheyid
Right, time with the missus. maybe the odd post here and there, not odd as in strange, all my posts are odd. Catch you later maybe, failing this, goodnight all, hopefully converse with your good selves tomorrow.

Quick question before I leave. These Bank Holidays....Where do the Banks actually go?.
cider spurs
But beware the manumitted, Danny. Remember when Chicken George came home to get his family.
Falstaff the Fool
I swear I once saw a fat Ian Botham chasing a football around Scunthorpe United with a spliff in his mouth and a Barcardi and coke in his bowling hand....
MAN ON!
Pot Black... In black and white!
MAN ON!
Clive, why would Benitez come here? He's doing fine where he is. I'm sure he lives like an emperor in Napoli. And he won't pay the key money to get a contract from Danny Boy.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff. You're a right funny geezer!
MAN ON!
A geezer at any rate.
Falstaff the Fool
Just seen a great programme featuring Iniesta - great player and person!
Highgatespur
I know Iniesta is a great player, but I don't know anything about him as a person. What makes him a great person? I'm curious what you know that makes you say this.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff the Fool... Sorry, a little cockney leaking out there..... Not appreciated round these parts.....
MAN ON!
Falstaff - I think the Premier League is where it's at for the top guys, Napoli are already looking like shipping out a few of the big names and I'm sure Benitez will feel he has unfinished business in England. It's by far and away not my first, second or third choice but I think it fits. LVG won't happen, I believe and I'm sure De Boer would cost a fortune also. Other candidates in the PL already will be likewise expensive.
Clivetheyid
Falstaff, Iniesta was shown to be unassuming and the way he used the WC final to remember his friend and captain of Espanyol who died of heart attack at the age of 26. How he then looked after the family... very touching story. Not a story you'd expect from a modern great footballer.
Highgatespur
Not sure if this had been suggested before but it would make a hell of a lot of sense to have the latest posts on the top of the thread not the bottom, so much scrolling!!!
Clivetheyid
Clivetheyid.. It's a real pain if you're on a phone.
MAN ON!
Only 30,000 at Barca tonight...
Highgatespur
Highgatespur... Easter Sunday. Big family stuff in Spain...
MAN ON!
..Going on in Spain.... Big Celebrations, I mean.
MAN ON!
Highgatespur - you mean a modern English footballer surely ?
Clivetheyid
corrected attendance 68000 - 1-0 down !!!
Highgatespur
Scrolling on a phone or iPad is a pain on this site, but on a computer only a fool would scroll to the end, which is foolish even for a self-proclaimed fool to do. Just do a back-search for the word "abuse" and it will take you right to the end of the thread for the last entry of "Report Abuse." Always works for me, and it's at least one good use of the report-abuse button.
Falstaff the Fool
Highgatespur...bunch of heathens.....
MAN ON!
Dim should have stuck with the maxim- 'It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.'....
shedboy2
Good point, shedboyII. But to a true fool, it's not sufficient to be a fool, one has to act the part as well.
Falstaff the Fool
He can't be such a fool to be where he is today. The biggest fools are us to keep going on about the schmock
MAN ON!
Man On LOL 2-1 up now ... gr8 free kick from the man!!!
Highgatespur
Falstaff great hint - back search how ??
Highgatespur
Disagree, MAN. Many is the fool who rises to the top. Look at the presidents and prime ministers, the kings of industry and institutions. Indeed, one can make a good argument that being a fool often is required for someone to rise to the top. If one doesn't accept this, then there is a way neither to account for most of human history nor for the current state of the human world. Someone with wisdom would not want to rise to the top. Only a fool would have such a goal in life. And only a real fool is likely to appeal to the rest of the fools, which means most of us. Being a fool is requisite for most positions of leadership.
Falstaff the Fool
Oh brilliant shedboy2!!! - is this part of the 'witch hunt"? LOL
Highgatespur
Falstaff - he does to us
Man On Levy got fooled - it helps to pass the time LOL
Highgatespur
On most browsers there is a search function, Command F on a Mac. It will move from the beginning to the end of a page, or from the end to the beginning. If you are at the beginning of a page or a file, and you use the search backwards, it usually will take you to the last use of the word in the page or file. I'm using Firefox now, and when I start a search there is a place on the bottom left of the screen to type the search term and then up and down arrows to govern the search. Use the up arrow to take you to the end of the page if you're at the very beginning. You'll have to experiment a bit with other browsers and operating systems. I know this basic strategy works with Windows and Linux machines as well and with Explorer, but I don't remember the details. It's not difficult to figure out.
Falstaff the Fool
Hope that helps.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff the Fool. I suppose the fool, the court jester, is the only one who can mock the king or queen without due recourse. Traditionally, in legend, the fool has the ear of the throne and therefore a huge influence on matters of high importance. Is TS the Fool to King Levy's throne? Or just a blithering idiot!?
MAN ON!
I use this navigation method on Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Explorer. It works with all of them, but the details of where you type in the search term (in this case "abuse") and how the navigation buttons work. Some use search from beginning, next, last, search from end, etc., some have just an up and a down button). I don't think there is something quite like this on most tablets or smart phones, but maybe there are similar ways to navigate on them that I haven't discovered. Let me know if you find some.
Falstaff the Fool
Yo, MAN. I think Timmy is just a blithering idiot and DL doesn't know the different between a fool and a Fool. Of course, I'm just Jesting, but not jesting about this.
Falstaff the Fool
When do we play Stoke?
MAN ON!
Thank god I don't manage a football club. I'd resent the supporters so much for their know-it-all-nonsense. I'd say all the wrong things whilst believing I was correct in my every decision. Then I'd win the double, just to ***** them all off!
MAN ON!
Stoke is 15:00 hours on Saturday.


If you won the double all would be forgiven. If you thought you were correct in all your decisions, you'd be a fool.

Falstaff the Fool
No, I take that back, you need to win the double and the CL, too, to be forgiven.
Falstaff the Fool
the fool, you are being a bit critical now!. Stop it!
Critical_Spur
I really do think the T.Pullis train should start rolling. It's as simple as this; he puts fear into every opposition fan/team/manager no matter who they are. Name the managers across the European leagues who do this - there are barely a handful and you know their pedigree. It's a hell of a feat for a guy who's only run clubs with meager funds to aid him. His reputation, as some have commented, as a football man is improving rapidly. Given his 'unfashionable' appeal, bringing him in now with the players we have is a good time - we've got enough foreigners, we want some prem players - Milnar, Clyne, Lalanna, Caulker + LB. With Carrol maybe progressing, we would have two good central MF playmakers which is what we really need now. Make Milnar pivotal to the team. We have some great supporting cast players, but our decisiveness right in that central circle is limp and without purpose. TP will give us steel - the characteristic that is exactly what has lacked from every spurs team, even the ones that have recently been successful. Players like Scotty provided it, but, as we're always accused of, bottling it is all too common. However, if I was TP and I knew how DL operates, I'd probably steer clear, and, on the other hand, I'd be surprised if DL would support TP. MPoch, my second choice, DL might like, but would he come given he appears to be a long term visionary.
ardone
Dim certainly is the master of his own downfall. He reeks again of a petulant child desperate to prove his worth. Once again he has a dig at the club and the fans with his comments re Sandro. It's disgraceful! Not one player has taken to the media platform discrediting Dim, not one of them has said anything to discredit the club or the supporters. It's high time we remove this clown from his position at the club and never allow this scum to enter our grounds ever again! There is a very clear understanding that Dim is not going to get the boot at the last match ( he will probs open his fat gob and tell us himself) and he is doing his best to leave this team disheartend, uninspired and more than likely unfaithful towards the club. His last dig at levy is to make sure levy has no summer holiday when our key players are all looking to leave. Dim out!
Mix26
If anyone talks more crap than Sherwood it has to be the supporters. (Myself included). Just watched the post match BBC interview to once again try desperately to see what I've missed that so many of you didn't. No, nothing wrong with what he said.... Either that, or I'm going mad.... Nothing in it that is slightly racist. Nothing there that is out of order. Nothing personal against Sandro. Nothing against the supporters. Could it be that I'm living in a parallel universe where everything I see and hear is completely different to the rest of our supporters. Yeah, that must be it.
MAN ON!
As the job of PL manager/head coach is such an easy one to do, I've put my name in the hat. Why not? I know as little as most of them seem to know... I'll change my name by deed poll, to something a bit more exotic. That should do the trick. I look forward to all of your undying support.... Up the Spurs!
MAN ON!
Meanwhile I'll brush up on my man-management skills by shouting abuse at a few kids playing soccer on the park....
MAN ON!
Man on.. Perhaps TS had a moment of clarity in that interview.... amid many of delusions ....in his ideas of how a spurs manager works...
Block D Spurs
Block D Spurs.. Morning... Maybe. :-)
MAN ON!
I have to say I agree with you, Man On. There's nothing in Sherwoods' comments to get upset about. He's not offended by Sandro's little strop. Recognizes that players will be upset when not playing (and we have a massive squad so this will be a recurring theme). Not fussed with the use of social media. Has nothing to hide from the media. All cards face up on the table. Everything above board. No shame or embarrassment in the wake of his decisions. And if you look (especially) at our midfield, there's not much in it, level-wise, between Sandro, Dembele, Capoue and Paulinho. For me, Tim is right to say you can't really separate them, they're at a similar level. So I agree it's very hard to define a best eleven, when the squad is that closely matched. I wonder what Levy thinks to it all.
jerkinmahjurgen
Man On not sure on the racism etc. talked about here but Sherwood is clearly trying to destabilise us now he knows he is a goner. His latest comments regarding Eriksson (it's always a worry a big club will come in for him etc.) can not be seen as anything other than negative towards the club. Either that or he is so small time we should berate his position as head coach anyway. His treatment of Sandro IMHO is not one of manager and player but two warring plonkers again this only looks bad on Sherwood as he should have the position of authority, no?
Clivetheyid
I'm not sure we should keep Tim, mind. He's got lots to learn and if we can (lol) get Ancelotti, Rafa, maybe LVG, I think it would be an immediate, noticeable upgrade that we'd be silly to turn down. But if we can't get a top-class manager in... Tim could 'do a Rodgers' next season? Who knows? I do think Tim has started something regardless of whether he gets to carry it on. He's sounded out players that are not pulling their weight or displaying the right mentality. Spurs' mentality, forever our bane. So long as whoever comes in can see recognize this and carry it on, I'll be happy. And I will credit Tim for getting the ball rolling.
jerkinmahjurgen
Jerkin are you serious?? For every player he has given a lift to he has alienated another. Just because Adebayor has scored a few goals we should write off JV, Sandro, Lamela etc. All these players have be marginalised by TS. It's been a bigger fiasco than AVB, that's some "achievement"!
Clivetheyid
If you can't see, or accept, that Eriksen is going to get big clubs looking at him whist in this form, you've got your eyes shut. Yes, it's gonna be a mission to keep him. Is that not just seeing it as it is?
jerkinmahjurgen
1000 points highgate, well done! get a life lol!!!

anyone see berbas goal last night?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1pyncz_dimitar-berbatov-goal-monaco-vs-nice-1-0-20-04-14_sport
Dublin Hotspur
Clivetheyid.Yes you're right he should have the position of authority. By dropping Sandro he exerted it. Just doing what he's paid to do. I thought he handled the questions about Sandros tweet honestly and diplomatically. He also said something along the lines of, the team will be aiming to get maximum points from the last 3 games and give the supporters what they want. Is he really doing or saying anything to destabilise the club? Can't see it myself.
MAN ON!
Of course we see that doesn't mean we want the head coach blurting it out every other second?
Clivetheyid
Who's been alienated? Verts is injured, and like Sandro, had made many mistakes in his last FEW games. Wasn't it Freund who confirmed Lamela is not ready to return? Everyone knows Sandro's situation. We can but assume the reasons for most decisions. We won 3-1. The players not involved don't have a leg to stand on regarding complaining. Where do they start? 'If I was playing we would've scored four?'
jerkinmahjurgen
jerkinmahjurgen. There were people on here saying they wouldn't mind seeing us lose before the match just to further discredit our manager. How can we expect any credit to go TS's way when we win, if that is the attitude of some supporters.
MAN ON!
I'm off to work...... Have a lovely day all.
MAN ON!
Man On just don't agree even old big mouth Harry would have dealt with that differently. Never seen a manager conduct himself like Sherwood does
Clivetheyid
"Tim could do a Rogers next season?" wrote jerkinmahjurgen. Gave the broadest grin of the entire thread. Timmy's clearly out of his depth here and has burned too many bridges to "do a Rogers" and lead us from 7th place to first next year. (I take it that this is the meaning of doing a Rogers.)

The mirth aside, and I've staked out a fairly clear "Timmy Out" position on this site recently, but Timmy's had his accomplishments as well, and, in fairness, he ought to get credit for them. He brought back Adebayor like Lazarus from the grave in which he was put by AVB, and that has been to the benefit both of Ade and of the club (and it reflects poorly on the apparent petulance of AVB). He's introduced some fresh blood from the developmental players to some good effect, and Bentaleb and Kane in particular have responded (although, in the case of Bentaleb, Timmy looks to have been neurotically involved). These positive do not outweigh the blunders in man management and some of the bizarre selections and tactical choices he's made. On balance, Timmy must go, but let's acknowledge the places he's done well compared to his predecessor.

Falstaff the Fool
We have class players and clubs that can afford them will try their upmost to buy them. I cannot see a clear out, maybe one or two top players and some deadwood. Players come and go but the club remains. COYS!
HOD_GOD_10
How would Mourinho get on with having a midfield with Chadli in it? Bentaleb and Siggy waiting in the wings... He can't get success from Eto'o, one of the highest-paid, highly-rated strikers of the last 10, 15years. Demba Ba, proven in the prem and a great 3rd choice striker, Torres, a £50M buy who flew for Liverpool. Sherwood's not getting results with what you'd call Spurs' best or, ideal 11, is he? He's integrated two kids in around 4 months. Played midfielders in defense. Midfielders on the wing. 442. 1 up front. Tried to attack. It would seem he's had to sort out some 'attitudes' in the squad. He's not got, what is it, around 50% win ratio, with the pick of our squad. Which isn't bad given it's his first job and he's not even qualified. Who's the defender he keeps putting on the bench? He doesn't sound English to me. Sounds so foreign I'm struggling to get his name ingrained in my memory. IF we DO keep Tim, you know Carroll will get integrated. Maybe even Livermore, who's done very well at Hull, let's admit? I just find it difficult that some people can't see anything positive about Sherwoods' management or work that he's done here so far. Not one thing. That's surely nothing more than a steadfast stubbornness? The way Pauli and Lennon ran their socks off. Kane 3 in 3. Sherwood gets no credit for this? And it seems Bentaleb is not an automatic choice. Isn't this a good thing? Doesn't it contradict some comments made by fans upon his initial integration to the first team? We started so much better on Saturday and I'm waiting to see if we can carry it on. A good manager doesn't ALWAYS make the right call, and visa-versa. If I think he's dropped a clanger. I'll say so. And when he does something good, the same. The weekend was good, regardless what Sandro tweets. He's a good boy - I can't see him doing anything other than proving to Tim he's worth a team place. He'd cost us two goals, after-all.
jerkinmahjurgen
I felt from day one Sherwood was not the problem moreover the ownership, however the for and against camps have developed over the past few months to the point where someone in the middle can only point out where "loyalty" has gone too far. Credit for TS goes for the Adebayor situation but the fact he gets so much abuse does not irradiate the bad calls he does make. Both should be acknowledged by supporters of our great club!
Clivetheyid
What will you lot talk about when he has gone???
Clivetheyid
Man On - a couple of points. Firstly, I don't know whether Tim is a racist or not but very much doubt it. What he needs to be careful of is that he's not perceived as one down to the trend that is happening. He has clearly not spent much of his life embracing the different cultures, DNA's and doesn't seem to understand that you don't treat a Brazilian, Frenchman, Romanian, Spaniard in the same way as you can Michael Dawson. That unfortunately is strongly implied in the way he is talking about them publicly. That's not racist, but is coming across as closed minded.

Secondly, I think his interview was poor in a couple of places. Saying Sandro is "not good enough to be in my team" is the wrong call. He should have just spoken to the strength in centre mid and how tough it is to earn a place. Using the words "not good enough" was stupid in my opinion. The way he handled the Kane question again could have been better and he just about got away with it. Saying things like I don't pick players on reputation alone and other managers don't give their homegrowns chances is deliberately provocative. There's no need for it.

What I don't understand is why the media team at WHL is not rehearsing these interviews with him. There are clearly some "canned answers" that Spurs can build and communicate through their manager just like every other club does. It sort of comes across that he is simply blagging it in the moment. When you do that, you know you're going to step on a land mine. He needs to remember that he's a low IQ football manager, has no tenure behind him and show some humility in the interviews as after all he is the new guy in a very tough job. He needs to represent the brand of THFC and not focus on himself. Saying that, Harry never could.
muttley
Clivetheyid I dare say the new manager. COYS!
HOD_GOD_10
Who turned the bold on? Naughty boy!
TQ2Spurs
The evidence is clearly in the middle of Falstaff's post :-)
muttley
Yeah, I didn't like to point fingers :-)
TQ2Spurs
'Doing a Rodgers'. Aka becoming the outside bet. Liverpool haven't won the title yet... Write off Mourinho at your peril. It's good you recognize his better work, Falstaff. From the outside, I think Tim is making it a hard call. The people who call the shots are much closer and will know whether Tim is making the right moves or not. He don't do prime-donas. The comments he makes suggest to me he's not Levys' puppet. He stands up on his own feet, says it how he sees it and couldn't care less what Levy or anyone else thinks about it. Surely this is good? He's not radical like Di Caneo. He's hard, but fair. Certainly made mistakes. But learns fast. Pitch-side manner has improved. He's keeping his head during post-match interviews.
jerkinmahjurgen
Hi hod god. If other clubs that can afford our class players, can see the class in our players, why can our head coach not! He thinks all our players are a "much of a muchness" apart from lloris. If he can't see ghe quality we have, how can other teams see it! The guy is off his rocker!
Dublin Hotspur
Keeping Sherwood is not an option guys, THFC would not have let all this negativity come out about TS if they intended to keep him, to keep banging on about him is boring. The question you should ask yourself is would you consider Sherwood alongside LVG, De Boer etc. if he didn't have the job now and someone else had been given it? We would not even have him on a short list so why keep moaning about him now.
Clivetheyid
jerkin - what I do like is that he brings back ostracised players after a few weeks. He doesn't drop and forget them. What I would like though is for all of that to happen in private and not through the media. I fully expect Sandro to be back in the fold in these last few games in the same way Paulinho did after the stupid comments Tim made public.
muttley
We got Stoke and Westham up next. Bully-boy balls-in-the-air types. How will Sherwood play it? We may certainly need Sandro... Will Tim get the response he's looking for? I firmly believe you get the players where you want them before you put them out there. Get the player training well and determined, you'll surely get a better performance? Ideally, I like two for every position + 3 in a squad, and a team of youngsters that you're not afraid to use should you need to. Tim seems to be covering this. I like his criteria for picking a team. Treating the players equally. Rotating them and using different systems. So many good points to his management. Sandro is a dm. If you're going to use him, he needs to protect the back four. He's cost us a goal in two consecutive games. He obviously needs to up his focus, concentration. We all know he's a good player. And that form wavers. It's no big deal. Verts has got a bigger sulk on, which started when AVB was managing and possibly goes back to losing Bale in the summer. Jan should get his agent to fully scrutinize his next suitors. Because we're not perennial CL contenders, nor are we to able to refuse such offers for want-away players. Even Man U couldn't fight against that. Even when Fergie was there.
jerkinmahjurgen
Muttley, he had that 'wobble', shall we call it, albeit, I believe, an intended public outburst, rightly or wrongly. But how can you keep private, something that is on social-media? Dublin, I think Sherwoods' 'much of a muchness' comment was referring to their levels being very similar. Can you really pick a 'best 2' from Sandro, Capoue, Dembele and Paulinho? Even who partners Jan in an ideal defense is tricky, and comes down to factors other than pure playing levels. Our best 11 doesn't pick itself, is all he meant.
jerkinmahjurgen
Hopefully the drive up to Stoke on Saturday will be accompanied by the news Hoddle has come in for the last three games and both Sandro and Lamela are in the match day squad...
Clivetheyid
It doesn't seem to matter what title a thread has the discussion always descends to moaning about TS. Unfortunately for TS I think he has burnt his bridges and shown nothing on the pitch to give confidence that he should remain manager. However, as Pele10 points out regularly, the real villain of the piece both now and the past 14 years is Levy and I have discovered a therapeutic method of dealing with my frustrations with the man. Take a couple of boiled eggs, draw a pair of bulging eyes and some rimless glasses over them, a slit of a mouth and who have you got? Then you can smash it open and eat it. Very satisfying!
Harry-Kari
Ok, dont agree Jerk, but get your point. I think he either chose the wrong term to describe them, or he doesn't rate most of them…. my guess is the second option. it still doesn't answer the question of other teams seeing quality in our players, but he doesn't. Sandro "not good enough" but several CL teams including Liverpool are after him?
Dublin Hotspur
Feel free to comment on Spurs V Fulham The Report.
jerkinmahjurgen
It could be worse, Dublin. He could have knees and elbows all over the place whilst talking...
jerkinmahjurgen
And in answer to the pairings you are looking at, it would depend who we are playing. it should nearly always include a DM, or 2. It isn't bentaleb and Siggy, or Chadli and Pauli! I would suggest it depends on formation, Sandro and Capoue DM, Pauli more attacking, Dembele, I think is definitely a 10 or a 6, but too much competition for him, and he aint our best. (IMO)
Dublin Hotspur
LOL jerk… Im liking the balance of your posts. I wish I had some in my head at the moment!
Dublin Hotspur
I was at the game on Saturday, South stand lower. Again it was not a great performance, I don't expect it to be anymore. Thankfully it was a better atmosphere than at the game vs Palace, but it was still pretty dire compared to WHL of a few years back, I'll come back to this point in a minute. Anyway, I thought Paulinho looked better this game and his work rate was impressive, his closing down caused a few Fulham mistakes. I thought Lloris was MOTM to be honest, he made some really key saves, that if they'd scored from then the game would've been different. The save from Rodellega's header was absolute world class, brilliant reactions and athletic ability. And I feel the penalty save is what got us over the line, if they'd scored that then I feel we would've wobbled. I still don't understand why Sherwood is playing Chadli at CM, he doesn't look comfortable there at all, and I don't expect him to be, that's not his position. Again playing Eriksen bugs me because that's not his position either, although his quality still shines through, but it does leave Rose badly exposed which is no help especially when Rose's defending is already questionable. Lennon finally managed a decent cross! Although I still think he's had a really poor season and has never become the player I hoped he would become... I would not be all that disappointed if he was sold in the summer. Really glad for Kane to get 3 in 3, he seems to be finding his feet in the team which I'm really happy about. Adebayor was the worst player on the pitch yesterday IMO, I can't wait for him to go in the summer, I find it ridiculous Sherwood considers him world class... Anyway, back to my earlier point, what has happened to the atmosphere at WHL? There were loads of empty blue seats and apart from the lower South and a corner of the East stand, there was no atmosphere at all. A few years back WHL was a massive atmosphere that made me proud of my club, at the moment it's almost depressing how little noise there is. What happened to the drum, or the 1882 movement? I feel the meddling of Levy and the weird shambles of this season has been really detrimental to our club. I really hope this gets sorted out in the summer and there's a positive atmosphere about the ground by the time next season starts.
rahn DMC
Also, anyone seen the Sherwood comments about seeing Eriksen apparently play at Wembley at 17 and then ringing Levy up the next day to sign him? Really wish he would stop giving the media so many quotes and just keep it all in-house, sounds just like Redknapp.
rahn DMC
Two players that would well and truly take care of our Left side.

LB...Rodriguez of Wolfsburg. 21 years old, great talent, 5 goals, 7 assists in 31 Bundesliga starts this season. Great crosser of the ball, strong, quick, slight concern with concentration, but vastly superior to any LB we have at present.

Left of a front Three...Konoplyanka...Box of tricks, fast, good passer,two footed, goals, and will track back all day long if required.

Play a 4-3-3...We would have pace and width from both Wingbacks, with both Sandro and Capoue in CM to cover all attacks the width of the pitch depending on which Wingback has broke forward.

Add to this the creativity of Eriksen further ahead in Midfield, with Konoplyanka inside Left forward, Lamela inside Right forward, and some have suggested maybe Bony as the striker in the middle.

Pace, power, trickery, goals, crosses, vision. It has it all. 3 signings, 3 signings that I truly believe will see us the most balanced and creative for a long time. circa £45.5 million.

Sure we could claw back 2/3 of this outlay through player sales.

This my friends need not be a dream, this would be a side more than capable of winning the league.
cider spurs
shame he couldn't see the quality in Suarez...and we don't have to take Tim's word for that do we...Gullit was there and he doesn't have an agenda....get rid of this schmuck...Levy needs to look in the mirror too or there will be tumble weed around the new stadium...
shedboy2
Good morning; rahn DMC - as said earlier in the thread I agree with you about the subdued atmosphere - the empty seats were generally filled up by late comers - only 600 from the 'sell out' crowd, according to the official attendance figure. Atmosphere in the ground for me is a lot more than the singing... Paxton was louder on Saturday than in most days (not saying much)... the 'buzz' is missing, the thunderous claps/roars have been missing a while... however glad to hear 'yiddo' being repeated constantly.

The drums were banned due to the supporters request! 1882 barred due to H+S; Flags not allowed due to H+S; so why do the other clubs allow the flags - L'Arse, Chelski, l'pool to name a few - I really would like THFC/Haringey to come out to explain this....

Highgatespur
Highgate...1000 points in the members league. A fine effort!.
cider spurs
Cider - I couldn't agree more both would suit us...when we get a decent manager BUT will we be able to attract them now?...what right minded player would be looking at Spurs thinking...yep that's a place for me?...we've gone backwards and look unlikely to be challenging for CL places for a while, the managers get changed regularly and the players thrown under the bus by a rank amateur....If I were Konoplayanka I'd tell my agent not to bother picking up the phone from Spurs...Levy needs to do some serious brand image repair starting by throwing Dim out of the club.....
shedboy2
Got to give the fans something to get excited about. Subdued atmosphere will go hand in hand with subdued performances. All IMO of course!.
cider spurs
Rahn DMC - I did see the report of TS phoning DL from the match to sign Eriksen up when he was 17 - thankfully DL wasn't listening, Eriksen would have been elsewhere by now - like so many 'promising' youngsters!

http://www.london24.com/sport/tottenham/sherwood_reveals_he_wanted_to_sign_eriksen_five_years_ago_and_admits_summer_fears_1_3566575

Cider, does this constitute as a 'witch hunt'?
Highgatespur
Jerkin - I just assumed that Tim's behaviour was the reason Sandro felt compelled to use social media. I doubt he would have done it without the previous pattern with Tim and the players. Paulinho also went public, but his was a very dignified and professional interview. It's a fine balance. The reason I joined Twitter was because of the banter in the England cricket team dressing room. It was fun following guys like Swann, Bumble etc. I'm not sure the footie players focus on the right things. They are mostly boring.
muttley
shedboy2, I think a lot of the damage limitations are being carried out at present. Any new signings will depend on the new man coming in - including the possibility of TS coming in...

Clivetheyid I agree someone at the club has decided the best policy is to create their own 'funeral'.
Highgatespur
muttley, interesting choice as the new coach of the cricket team ? bye bye Peterson or another fiasco coming up ?
Highgatespur
I'd like the players all to wear Tim out t-shirts before the Stoke game or perhaps black armbands to mourn our club, I'd back them if they all went on strike!....the bloke is a disgrace and embarrassment...why oh why anyone felt giving this unqualified schmuck a job managing the first team was a good idea is beyond me...
shedboy2
Thanks Cider and Dublin, as Bono sang. "still haven't found what I'm looking for...."
Highgatespur
Highgate...I saw you "on it" further up in the responses. My "Witch hunt" remark. My stance...Whilst I will openly admit I do not wish Tim at the helm, question his man management skills, formation and general competence as a manager. I cannot continually only focus on his negatives, although there are many. Witch hunt maybe a little wrong as terminology, but if we only choose to concentrate on his negatives, and ignore some of the positives, then maybe it is not too far off the mark. I want him gone, same as many, but as a result of looking at the whole picture and not just the selective.
cider spurs
Cider, fair enough, why aren't able to focus on our team, Thursday before our games and after the games - he has to say something - why ? have you heard Ramsay, Freund or even Les say anything ? If media ***** Mourinho can give it up to his assistant surely others can....For my part, I can guarantee you that I don't go searching for comments attributed to him...

Do you remember Eriksen being upset at being injured for friendly at Wembley recently as he had wanted to play at Wembley for the first time.... now you tell me, is Eriksen suffering from memory loss or is it another made up comment for the press from our famous boss ?
Highgatespur
Highgate...LOL!, I can't answer that one. I will say however, I believe we both well and truly see his faults. Off out, catch you later.
cider spurs
At the game, I commented that Kane would now be called up for England after his '3 in 3' - I was only joking folks..

http://www.tottenhamblog.com/2014/04/21/defoe-for-england-why-not-harry-kane/
Highgatespur
Dont want this vindictive cutn as our manager next year he's a 1st class bul*****ter and some fall for it Lpease get this big time charlie cutn out of our club asap. Never hated a Spurs manager as much.
dogeatdog
Vindictive is a good word. Must try it sometime. That reminds me, I must take Tim, my Terrier, out for a walk... Hate Out Loud!
MAN ON!
Hi Dublin. It's james1. Just signed up as member recently but some Chelsea scum has my name :( I don't understand how Tim says one thing and then contradicts himself. He's all mouth imo and loves the media. His best job would be a pundit but I fear the likes of Hoddle and Neville would eat him up! But if he knows the squad better than anyone and then says he doesn't know the best team is utter bollox. COYS!
HOD_GOD_10
Dr. Evil wants to rule the world but, unfortunately for him, he just got the pitiful job of managing Spurs. Have a nice day y'all.....
MAN ON!
Hi James, I like the new name! And apparently Sherwood is responsible for eriksen now!!!! Didn't rate Suarez either. Lol
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, as the saying goes, "Lies damned lies"
Highgatespur
Come on, guys! Timmy Spurwood! :P This guy was made for us.
jerkinmahjurgen
Seems I screwed up the thread last night. Sorry. I guess I was hitting a br command and left out the r. My bad. Forgive me, Ox.
Falstaff the Fool
I've googled it and apparently, if you lacquer a turd, or bake it, it polishes up a treat.
jerkinmahjurgen
Highgate.// I think it was Mark Twain the American writer years ago who said. There's Lies Damn Lies and statistics. he was talking about politicians.. but this can equally apply to English Premier League. !
Block D Spurs
Think I'll try that with Tim the Terriers turds!
MAN ON!
He does rate himself eh Dublin :) COYS!
HOD_GOD_10
jerk - why polish a turd...just roll it in glitter!...it'll still be a turd though...
shedboy2
Lol, Shedboy, there are turds and Turds, mind. The Kings' Turd is the only Turd that can fug out The King without fear of execution. However, the Timmyturd, or turd of the jester, can 'be', acknowledged by, although not offensive to, The King. Left alone to decompose in peace, it can turn into a beautiful flower.
jerkinmahjurgen
Highgatespur - Yeah you're right, of course singing is only a part of it. I know what you mean about the buzz, I think quite a few people feel disillusioned with the club at the moment... Thanks for the info on the drum and 1882. Can't believe supporters wanted the drum out! And I swear the amount of stuff banned because of H+S these days is an absolute joke! Yeah same here mate, Increasingly I feel like the club do not care about the fans which is really disappointing.
rahn DMC
Rahn, Highgate… remember isn't THFC in Haringey council?? therefore the ludicrous H+S rules… lived in Crouch end for a few years, everything was controlled…. it was like living in a Pink Floyd concert!
Dublin Hotspur
or maybe something completely different to that, but requiring certain riles and certain stimulants!! lol
Dublin Hotspur
riles = rules…. feeing software update…#applegofeckyerselves
Dublin Hotspur
 

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