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Look What You Could Have Won!

So Suarez wins the PFA Player of the Year and Hazard wins the Young Player award. Both could have been Tottenham players!

Of course there are plenty of ifs, buts, and maybes to any transfer, but we are all aware that we did seriously look at bringing Luis Suarez in from Ajax, but person or persons decided against bringing him to WHL for whatever reason. Some now blame Sherwood, whilst until recently we all blamed Harry Redknapp, but what really matters is that whoever was making the final decision, we missed out on him and our loss is most definitely now Liverpool gain.

The same could apply to Edin Hazard, who is quoted as saying he was close to joining Spurs and probably would have done so if we hadn`t missed out on Champions league football and that was made all the more annoying because it was Chelsea winning the CL that made him look elsewhere and to be convinced that his current club would be looking to play a more attractive brand of football in the future. Wonder what he thought of yesterdays performance?..

We could even add Gary Cahill as another player in the team of the season, that we failed to get, but it was perhaps longer odds once more as Chelsea again declared their interest and obviously had the greater financial clout and the bigger stage to tempt him, but once again we missed out on one of this seasons best players, whether due to misfortune or mismanagement. Of course Spurs do seem to have a talent for buying players and watching them under perform and it is easy to consider that they would be outstanding for us, but we all assumed the same would be applied to the likes of Erik Lamela...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Monday April 28 2014
Time: 8:28AM

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Suarez, great player, awful cheat! Diving every game and gets player of the year! Some role model!
and then Tim's scouting! Hmm. Claims eriksen now, but said earlier in the season none of the players were his! I have a good understanding of why he didn't opt for Luis and Eden. Not his style of player! God help us if he's allowed near the purse!
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 08:50:00
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Dublin, I have to agree re Suarez's negative side, but I have to say I love his never say die chasing everything down and putting 100% into everything he does on the pitch. Coaching kids, this is an inspiration or at least should be, however I can't condone the more cynical aspects of his game, but as player of the year, he would have got my vote
oxfordspur
28/04/2014 08:58:00
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I agree ox, he's been by far the most dynamic player this season, but my blood boils when I see his play acting and goading refs for decisions. Unfortunately it is now part of the game, and the kids will be trying to emulate all aspects of players like Suarez' armoury.
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 09:06:00
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with kids, is there a simple solution in saying that of you cheat you get subbed? However should his absolute commitment and desire to win, be the inspiration we look to and that sadly can't be coached
oxfordspur
28/04/2014 09:11:00
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Who can really say for sure that Suarez & Hazard would have been a success for us? With our coaching, playing style, and team, they may have flopped here. Perhaps if Lamela had gone to Chelsea or Liverpool, he'd already be a great success. Maybe, had Bale gone to Chelsea, he might have failed. If football was an exact science, it would be pretty boring. Just put it down to bad luck, but remember that we do get a decent share of good luck too! We'd all just like a little more good luck!!
ParkLane67
28/04/2014 09:15:00
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shame this scum bag has won this. good footballer but a horrid human being
mattspurs1982
28/04/2014 09:16:00
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Agree again ox, it can't be coached but it does rub off on others though! A lot of the pool players have shown a similar level of commitment. Some is down to the manager in this situation, but some also comes from senior players like Gerard and Suarez. The younger players are obviously emulating them too. It funny, because due to lack of depth in pools squad, there is no real need to play for a starting position, it's almost guaranteed, so a laissez fair attitude could have surfaced, but didn't!
unfortunately some of Suarez' more negative, cheating tactics are also starting to rub off on the younger players, visible in stirlings antics yesterday.
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 09:18:00
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I think Lallana, Rodriquez, Bony, Gerrard, Toure are more fitting winners
mattspurs1982
28/04/2014 09:24:00
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The irony is that Jamie O'Hara who is now 27 and at his peak couldn't even get into the Division 1 team of the year even though Wolves got 100 points. I remember the high debates on VS about fans wanting to keep him

As for Suarez, if I did ever come out of retirement and was allowed one last tackle......he'd have a legitimate reason to be rolling around the floor and crying to the ref :-)
muttley
28/04/2014 09:45:00
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Saurez was judged to be guilty of racist actions towards another individual - even after being found guilty he has continually refused to admit it. How can anyone truly condone his actions ? Either condemn his racists actions or condone them... by voting him as their player of the year - the players of EPL have come down on the side of a racist.

Similarly, Liverpool as a club came down on the side of racists by backing this 'player' by wearing those t-shirts (v Norwich) instead of the Anti Racists shirts... The manager downwards... for me they didn't apologise for their player but condone his racists actions.Yet the club is known for the work on Real Justice - only when it suits I say...

Why do we always find it so easy to 'forget' these actions in favour of convenience ?

Saurez for Spurs ? - TFG it never happened.
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 09:50:00
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No way should Suarez be held up as a role model. Fantastic footballer but spoils it all by some of his actions. Biting FFS! Racial comments, diving, berating referees, et al. Maybe my memory's bad, or I'm just stuck in the 50/60's when football was a sport and mostly played in a gentlemanly way. Not saying there weren't hard/dirty players but there wasn't the diving and abusing of referees and the like.
longtimespur
28/04/2014 09:54:00
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The list of players who nearly joined us is a bit of a joke. I am waiting for the summer and the link to Leandro Damaio again..lol.
vicspur
28/04/2014 09:54:00
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Well said highgate! I had forgotten all that, somehow! Trouble is this all falls into one season! Otherwise the racism, cannibalism, etc would / should have come into play! Big risk by the FA on this one, and shame on the players that voted.
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 09:56:00
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I think Suarez is the definitive player that other supporters love to hate (because there are things to dislike about him). But, I’m pretty sure that the supporters of any club he plays for will all love him ... for the football reasons stated on here.
Geofspurs
28/04/2014 10:13:00
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A great headline on SSN app.
Alves puts bite on racists
very fitting with the article.
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 10:37:00
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Hazard expressed interest in Tottenham, then having a good season and playing attractive football. A court case came along and an England manager's job hovered into view, and what with dreaming and all, a ten, eleven (?) point lead over Arsenal was thrown away.
Airwave
28/04/2014 10:37:00
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Geof, I for one would NOT like the likes of saurez to ever wear the shirt o Spurs... I will not ever use the weak excuse of "football reasons" to compensate for this - the personal values he demonstrated so far are despicable in our day to day living... so please let's not put those aspects under the carpet

Ok for Nile Ranger to play for Spurs? Only if he was scoring 20 goals a season ? We can't be that swallow with our beliefs or can we ?
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 10:39:00
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Dublin , a very passionate interview with the Spanish correspondent (Scottish guy) about the ramifications of the banana throwing on TalkRadio - as usual Brazil and Curbishly brushed that aspect under the carpet....
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 10:42:00
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Suarez got voted player of the year for his football not his personality. Yes he has done things wrong and I don't like him but he is a quality footballer. Liverppol fans love him for the football and everyone else hates him for his personality.
Kong
28/04/2014 10:44:00
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Highgate. A banana was thrown at alves as he was about to take a corner..... He peeled it and ate it, them banged the corner I to the box, quality response!
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 10:50:00
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Yaya Toure would have gotten my vote for player of the season.
Slurms McKenzie
28/04/2014 10:55:00
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Kong - regardless, he should not be held up as some kind of role model. His disgraceful personality appears ON THE PITCH. Yes he can kick a football well, but he also cheats, is a racist, a cannibal and has no place winning such honours. IMO.
mattspurs1982
28/04/2014 11:12:00
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Life is littered with 'if only's'.I'm still hurting that we didn't sign Johnny Haynes when Danny Blanchflower retired.I guess I should move on now and find inner peace.
Greavesaboveall
28/04/2014 11:22:00
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they're not
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 11:23:00
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Kong i think he should have won it last season because he was the best player then also. We have a sports personality of the year award for the luvvies. I agree with you.
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 11:25:00
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Did Tim get the half manager of the season award or does that come later? His got us playing some fantastic football and results, beating the likes of Sunderland, Fulham, WBA oh no that was a draw, Stoke away, who we beat most seasons and once again on the brink of European Football, if we can get one over Wet Spam and beat Villa, it will be a good end to the season. COYSherwoody-woody
spu 4 life
28/04/2014 11:29:00
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Mattspurs1982, I am not saying he is a role model but this award is for his football voted by fellow players. He got punished for his racist and biting incidents, I don't agree with what he done and don't think he has changed but his cheating in games in no different to what other players do.
Kong
28/04/2014 11:38:00
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Danny Blanchflower retired from playing in 1964, having notably captained Spurs in 1963 to win the European Cup Winners Cup. Johnny Haynes suffered broken bones in a car crash in 1962, was out for some months and and was never as good a player again.
Airwave
28/04/2014 11:48:00
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Well said mattspurs1982 in your response to Kong.... Lee Hughes, ok ? Nile ranger ok if they are good at football everything's fine.... FA are hypocrites asking Anelka to be banned from World football whilst celebrating saurez .... yup right.
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 13:28:00
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Dublin, Graham Hunter was concerned about the underlying racism in Spanish football both Brazil and Curbishley baulked at this point and changed the subject....
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 13:29:00
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Yes. With the benefit of players getting healthy, acclimatized and more settled, Sherwood has, in the league managed to get results against all teams except those above us, who, as much, if not more, than under AVB, pasted us. But yes, the third best squad (my opinion) we are squeaking results against the lesser teams with one or two great saves by Lloris every game. All that matters are results. What could have been indeed. League Cup, Europa, FA Cup. 1 win, 4 losses, one draw undoes that. Cup games matter too. If they don't, why waste our time trying to get in to the CL? A cup, last I checked. Oh well. At least we are witnessing scintillating, creative offensive play from the lads. Onward and upward. No shortage of good quotes though. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 13:30:00
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peterballb, I know you are kidding - love the post from spu 4 life...
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 13:34:00
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And, yes, we probably could have signed them all. We would not have been able to retain them though as they all earn more than our highest paid players. Suarez is on over 10M GBP per annum. We don't pay those funds. In short, we can get most players if we strike early enough. If players pan out though, Carrick, Modric, Berbatov, Keane, Bale tell us that they will go when the appropriate offer comes in. We need to do things differently and be better, but as Arsenal demonstrates, even with 60k seats and CL football, they can't keep their best players. They just don't pay high enough wages. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 13:36:00
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I was gutted we lost out on him at the time but never expected him to be anywhere near this good. Absolute star as proven whenever he plays against Norwich and most games this/last season.

The problem with Suarez is he comes from a very different background where certain language and behaviour is tollerated very differently,, can you imagine going to a country where calling someone a ginger to$$er is a criminal offence and actually enforced,, don't be suprised if in 30 years time this is the case in the UK and we expect the rest of the world to follow instantly. I am not suggesting his actions are condenable but I am suggesting there may be reasons behind them and that without the ability to read the papers or listen to the news it would be hard to change and adapt and he should not be branded evil which I imagine is just part of his learning curve.

On the positive side as Ox said he never gives up and always runs, this was epitomised when Liverpool were down to 9 men and he was still trying to win until eventually subbed - we should have won that game 7-0 instead of doing ollies in the middle of the park, I am more disapointed we missed that opportunity as it was well within our hands.
T.H.F.Chris
28/04/2014 14:09:00
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THF Chris, i see it much as you do.
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 15:06:00
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This is the one reason I hope to God Liverpool do not win the league. I hate Suarez with a passion and so glad he didn't come to us. Terrible human being anmade ou to be reformed now as a decent bloke. Mind yo the same is being said about Ryan Giggs, another wolf in sheeps clothing. We had Bale winning both awards last year, but there wasn't an article that ManUre missed out on him.
CoysRus
28/04/2014 15:26:00
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T.H.F.Chris. A good and balanced post. I still wouldn't have him at Spurs though...
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 15:27:00
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In the real world and not in the fantasy world of PL football, everybody's really nice to each other.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 15:29:00
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He has scored a bag full of goals, but I am still happy the little bittey racist isn’t playing for Spurs. Hazard is a good player. COYS.
SpursOne2
28/04/2014 15:30:00
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THF ... Good point re Suarez.
Geofspurs
28/04/2014 15:34:00
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CoysRus. hate is a word which fuels most of the bad things in the world, it kills hundreds if not thousands or people daily. With Suarez I see an exceptional talent, who never gives up, who appears to be a very good family man, a guy who embraces the black guys in his team when something good happens, shares the work with them when things get tough. I see a man from a different culture who probably isn't a racist, I also see loads of honorable people on here who must visit the church on a daily basis who vent hatred towards him. I would rather spend an hour in his company trying to understand him as a person than any of those on here.
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 15:47:00
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Yaya should have got player of the year. Bosses every game and 19 goals from a midfielder!!! Nice bloke too
Dublin Hotspur
28/04/2014 16:01:00
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THFChris - Apologies - I do feel you're condoning his actions through what you say. I'm nor here to change your mind - what about the denial when explained it to him - did he use those terms in Holland I wonder ? What about the use of his gnashers ?! I have a few Uruguayans mates - thankfully they don't racially abuse nor bite others !!!
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 16:16:00
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Agree with you Dublin - let's see who the press people pick...
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 16:18:00
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CoyRus - well point ... good one re Ryan Giggs....
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 16:19:00
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I think the press will go with Suarez, scoring 30 goals in 31 games is some feat.
Kong
28/04/2014 16:28:00
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* well put, not point!
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 16:33:00
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As we will probably never know who wanted or signed the Magnificent Seven" cant really blame or praise anyone. Not for or anti TS but seems to have all the players he wants in the youth team.
Blind Faith
28/04/2014 16:34:00
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In Rodgers and his fellow players standing by Suarez I would take it as read, that they know him quite well. He certainly doesn't have a negative effect on the dressing room as far as I can see. He and his black sparring partner, Sturridge seem to get on well. I don't like the guy from his previous actions and his public persona, but, am I in a position where I can judge him as a human being? No! The award is based on fellow PL footballers votes. Who are we to moralise and tell them how they should vote?
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 16:45:00
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People haven't liked Suarez ever since the Ghana handball incident.
Guyver
28/04/2014 16:51:00
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Guyver. I forgot about that... What made it all the more annoying was after being sent off, the cameras were on him, in the tunnel, and we saw him celebrating the missed penalty.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 16:54:00
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MAN ON!, honestly, I'd have done the same thing, equivalent to bringing down the last man. Suarez wasn't trying to deceive anyone, he just took one for the team. I don't know him personally, so won't judge him on a few perceived misdemeanors, but the racial and biting incidents were wrong. Wouldn't be acceptable on the streets, shouldn't be acceptable on a football pitch.
Guyver
28/04/2014 17:08:00
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ManOn as ever the voice of reason.
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 17:12:00
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Highgate it is a very complex and political topic, I have worked in call centres in Leicester where the banter between ethinic minorities would be considered abuse if said in London... But if something like that is said in a hateful way I do not condene it and actually feel sorry for the culprit, they are obviously uneducated, feebly insecure and obviously a born loser... on the gnashers thing I think that just made him look stupid, I mean nibbling on Ivanovic's bicep WTF is that all about, it's hardly going to 'arm him is it.
T.H.F.Chris
28/04/2014 17:18:00
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I don't give a toss if Suarez is the biggest tow rag walking, he gets paid to play football, and he is pretty good at it. Ironically Messrs. Sherwood and Riley were sent to scout him, they came back with their recommendations and he now plays for Liverpool, says it all really. Similarly who if anybody admits to responsibility for the signing of Soldado last summer, when Bony was available with his very impressive scoring stats at Vittese, was 4 years younger, and half the price, and the rest is history as they say. Likewise why don't we find bargain buys like Coutinho at£8-9M, and were we ever in danger of getting crushed in the rush to pay close on £30M for Lamela, I doubt it. Of course having said that re Suarez, if he had come to Spurs, and performed as he has at Liverpool, he wouldn't still be here, he would have been sold on long since.
Frank
28/04/2014 17:25:00
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Each and every one of us would have handled the ball in exactly the same manner as Suarez. He was not breaking someone's ankle deliberately. He was not trying to get away with it. He knew what he was doing and opted to trust in his keeper to make the save knowing he would be out of the game and that he would miss the subsequent games. In essence, he sacrificed himself for the team. I applauded him then as I would do any other player. This was not Thierry Henry deceiving the officials so that Ireland did not go on to the WC.

Now, the indiscretions during his PL time are a whole other kettle of fish. Racism and cannibalism have no place in the game or in civilized society. By all accounts, he has been a model citizen and teammate this season. He has also been, by far, the best player in the league. He was last season too but the suspension cost him it last season. BTW, does Suarez dive any more than Bale? Just a question. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 17:27:00
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THFChris - you sound like condoning although you say aren't - the rapport between people who understand each other is fine - but please don't equate that to this incident ... it was fully explained to him afterwards and yet he didn't accept it... as for his 'nibble' wasn't his first 'bite' in Amsterdam enough ? Come on THFchris....
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 17:39:00
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Our next game v West Ham (A) will be a fascinating contest between possibly the two most tactically inept coaches in the PL. There is big Sam the furthest thing away from a MENSA member you will ever find in football, and Dim who pushes him very close. It will obviously be a display of astute coaching, team set ups, and tactics, a veritable game of chess. The after match interviews will display extreme command of the English language.
Frank
28/04/2014 17:40:00
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Bale dived and I didn't like it. Defoe also bit a player and I didn't like it. I don't like Suarez or any other player for cheating. It happens. But he is the player of the year and this far outweighs the cheating according to his fellow professionals. I don't have a problem with that.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 17:43:00
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Well Frank, I do give a toss - in fact more than that.... human values mean a lot more to me - Would you accept Ranger or Lee Hughes for spurs if they scored enough goals ? Not for me....
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 17:44:00
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It's not true that all of us would cheat. Not all sportsmen are cheats.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 17:45:00
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Re. Gary Cahill, we had the opportunity, and were in discussion to sign him, the window before Chelsea showed their faces, but apparently a certain person baulked at the price, which was more than, by a relatively small amount, than he wanted to pay.
Frank
28/04/2014 17:46:00
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Frank about Saturday - what a thought .... I think there's an obvious winner - master and the pupil here one believes.... I'm sitting on the 6th row so hopefully Carroll's efforts will go flying over me!!!
Highgatespur
28/04/2014 17:50:00
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Peter I didn't realise Suarez ate someone, in that case I would prefer not to sit down with him for an hour. That's news to me. Man on you have a degree in realism?
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 17:55:00
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Perhaps it is our laudable attitude towards "cheating", or trying to gain an advantage by exploiting the rules to the extreme, that is one of the reasons why we are consistently bridesmaids, rather than taking every opportunity as it avails itself, to win. The consistent winners in every sport in the professional arena, whether it be teams, or individuals, will "cheat", or attempt to deceive officials, and exploit any loop holes, weaknesses, and anomalies, and stretch to the very limits the relevant rules, in order to win. This may offend some, or be uncomfortable to contemplate, but is a fact of life in professional sport, the price of failure is too high for it ever to be any different.
Frank
28/04/2014 18:00:00
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It is not cheating. It is provided for in the rules. There is a penalty that is handed out for the specific infraction of the rules of the game. Being ffside is also against the rules. Players who are offside are not "cheaters". Taking banned substances is cheating. Match fixing is cheating. Every foul is an offence against the rules. Deliberate handballs happen every game when players fall on he ball to force the officials to call a foul they otherwise might not have done. Handling the ball is a rule within the game. Punishments are proscribed within the rules for such violations. You are not a cheater because you were offside, mis-timed a tackle or handled the ball. What Suarez did was deliberate, overt and with a full knowledge and acceptance of the consequences that would come from the action. I, for one, have no issue with that act any more than I have with a defender deciding to take down a player at the edge of the box rather than concede a goal or a penalty. It's a professional foul, if you will. Taking down a player o a breakaway. Pass interference on a player who was going to be home and clear. Kicking the ball in basketball to avoid a player being sent through clear. Reaching under for a ball in a ruck in rugby to stop another team's momentum and to allow your team to getback in position. Pick your sport, there are examples in each one and many happen every gameweek. Golf balls in the gastank of an F1 car is cheating. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 18:03:00
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Topho, it would take more than one sitting. Suarez is not a big guy. He clearly didn'y like the taste of Ivanovic. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 18:05:00
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To act unfairly in order to gain an advantage, is in my book, cheating. Some ways of cheating are more extreme than others, that's all.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 18:12:00
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Frank, absolutely. Where it all does me in is all those who suggest they would never do such a thing. I would suggest that if you would never do such a thing, you would probably never make it to that level. I consider myself a very fair-minded individual. Played hockey for many years, baseball for even more and rugby for a few. I have committed fouls in all three sports, some through inadvertance, more through sheer laziness, and a few deliberate "professional" fouls. Those are in "team" sports where you are playing for yourself and every other one of your teammates. I have played squash and olf my whole life. I have never done anything less than gentlemanly in either sport. I would rather, as an individual, lose, rather than cheat. These are games where you, by an large, officiate yourself. I count every stroke and penalty on the golf course and I almost never ask for a let in squash (I believe if I can't get there, I should have played a smarter shot). In both, I police myself. In team sports it is different. Suarez sacrificed himself. I'll bet not a single member of his team would have come down on him if they had lost that game. His team mates get it. They understood and appreciated what he had done. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 18:15:00
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I got myself to a high level in football without ever cheating.. Though, I will not say that if I'd got to the very top, that it never would have happened. I still maintain that not every 'top' sportsmen will intentionally cheat.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 18:23:00
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MAN ON! it is not, I would submit, that black and white. The rules are there s are punishments for fouls that come up as a matter of ourse in the playing of the game. I do not harp on the kids that I coach in hockey if they trip a player who would otherwise have been off on a breakaway. I do harp on them if they were just too lazy to be bothered to get on their horse and chase the player down. I will sit a player who deliberately pushes the skates out from under a player going in to the corner at speed. They are three totally different things that come with the same punishment (by and large). The third is dirty and threatens tio injure. I do no, as a coach, or as a player, advocate or condone such acts. In fact, I do not tolerate it and have no issues cutting such a player even if they were my best player. The second is a question of laziness. Lack of desire and effort. That you need to decrease by coaching and positive reinforcement. The first one, any serious player does as a matter of course in their playing days. Deliberate, thought out fouls that are for the benefit of the team. Professional fouls. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 18:25:00
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MAN ON! you cheated every time you fouled another player or were offside. All against the rules. I doubt that you played without ever committing a foul. Even keepers almost always leave their line before the ball is struck on a penalty. Bunch of cheaters they are. Every player who plays, cheats. In my mind, the question is, is what you are doing consistent with team play and sportsmanship and does it bring the game in t disrepute. A handball, that is not intended to decieve the officials, is not counter to that. Maradonna's hand ball was the exact opposite. It was done to deceive the official and to get to a ball he otherwise would not have been able to get. In fact, Eriksen's deliberate hand ball the other day was closer to Maradona's than Suarez'. One group pretended it didn't happen. Suarez walked off the pitch after receiving the punishment that was sure to come with a deliberate, overt foul.

Diving is a whole other thing because it has an element of intent to it. Bale's defence that he wanted to protect his knees and ankles may be legit. Question is, was that why he was doing it those times? Only Bale knows. COYS
peterballb
28/04/2014 18:36:00
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Ian Bale Ivanovic didnt even complain when he did it, he just got on with it, the media did their thing to capitalise hoping sheep would buy into it, the sheep did. Personally I would rather Suarez having a nibble than Ramirez trying to snap my leg or elbow me in the face.
PJcoys-1882
28/04/2014 18:43:00
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peterbalb, It's not that simple I know but, it's just that some forms of cheating are more acceptable and, seen all the more often, because of it. Especially if it doesn't intend physical harm. A cheeky push in the penalty area is cheating but goes on all the time without punishment. A sly and unnoticed head butt is of course a more unacceptable form of cheating. Both acts are, in their own extreme ways, forms of cheating in order to gain an advantage on your opponent.
MAN ON!
28/04/2014 18:45:00
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MAN ON! you would probably hate the final few minutes of a basketball game. If scores are close, the losing team are expected, to foul the opposition in order to stop the clock and force free throws.
Guyver
28/04/2014 18:46:00
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New Rules For 2016/17 - Reminder

With only a few weeks to go until proper football returns following our (again) unsuccessful...

Anything Different for Atletico?

Tomorrow we play our second and final ICC game, but will the Juve game have given Pochettino food for thought?

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