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Tim, Frank & Mauricio?

It seems like we could be down to the final three in who gets to manage Tottenham Hotspur next season. Frank De Boar, Mauricio Pochettino and perhaps Tim Sherwood seem to be the most likely options facing Daniel Levy this summer.

There has to remain a massive question mark against Tim Sherwood, even if that is simply down to the fans not taking to him. Start the season slowly and the pressure could become unbearable and that would surely transmit to the players and the prospect of two points in two games could so easily happen again.

That isn`t a slight on Sherwood and I still can`t believe the blinkered approach from some fans, who seem determined to see him as a failure. Sure there have been too many below par performances and result blips, but when we see the hand he has been delivered, should we be surprised?

Winning the Dutch league is no guarantee of being a huge success in the Premiership. Any manager of Ajax is expected to run that league close and is it fair to suggest that their historical rivals don`t currently have that strength and depth to compete that they once did.

On a positive, his teams still play with technique and intelligence and have done quite well in the Champions league, without really hitting the high spots, however I seem to recall Celtic beating Barca and I don`t hear many calls for Lennon to get the Spurs job.

Few had heard of Pochettino prior to his taking over at Southampton and on paper he had a pretty average record in terms of the precious win percentages, but did that show Southamptions vision in appointing the right typo of manager ads opposed to the biggest name? something we should also take note of.

Worries that he struggles with the language are for me a smoke screen, as I understand he communicates just fine with the players, but simply prefers the security of speaking in his own language to the media. Would that bother any fan, just as long as he gets a decent enough win percentage.

So if these are the three in the current short list, though todays papers are speculating that Roberto Martinez is the latest name, who would be your choice?..



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Tuesday May 6 2014
Time: 7:57AM

Comments

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Martinez if he was realistically available, the De Boar, pochettino, then anyone else other than sherwood.
The Hudd
06/05/2014 08:09:00
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If we manage to get into the EL then it will be interesting to see if we do go for Martinez. Everton will also be in the EL so it will be a test of Martinez's loyalty and also our ability to draw the big names if we make him an offer. I don't think he'll come as I think he is more loyal than to walk out on Everton after just one season. We should applaud that even if it does mean we miss out on a potentially very good Spurs manager. That being the case I'd like us to go after FdB but I think Levy would prefer Pochettino.
SpuriousLife
06/05/2014 08:20:00
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You don't become a good manager overnight....adios Tim! Of the 3 I think De Boer is a longer term strategy....and the more sensible solution if we are to continue being a selling club...
shedboy2
06/05/2014 08:30:00
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The name and level of coach Levy is about to employ is totally irrelevant! Why? Well if LOSER Levy somehow how convinces a top class coach to enter the ENIC nightmare, he will not back him in the transfer market, and the new coach will find the clubs best players sold without his permission or approval, which will most certainly cause friction between the coaching staff and Levy, which will have the knock on effect of unsettling more players... This has been the repeated pattern that has occurred for 14 seasons and 9 coaches, since Joe Lewis got his offshore, football mercenary hands on our beautiful football club... Why would anything change with coach number 10? Lewis won't drop the zero net spend transfer policy, which will mean Levy will put more of the clubs best players into his ENIC Auction house to raise his next Fantasy Football budget, and then Levy will not support his new coach in his personal selection of players, because Levy right now as I write, ahead of the new coaches arrival, already has his Fantasy Football eyes on the players he fancies... This is Levy's football team and his new coach will have to work with Levy's team, which of course is doomed to fail because the man running OUR club, OUR team is clueless Fantasy Football LOSER. Even the last few ENIC Hotspur fans living on the planet know this to be true now... Better the DIM you know Daniel...
Pele10
06/05/2014 08:34:00
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SFiring people is easy, replacing them with someone better is difficult. While some of our fans fantasise about top managers coming to the club the reality is we choose from who is left after bigger clubs have made their appointments. Winning the Dutch league with Ajax proves nothing, nor does finishing 8th in the premier league with Southampton, if that's the best on offer why bother. The reality is there is very little downside risk with giving Sherwood a full season to see what he can do. What might happen, we don't qualify for the europa ? that's an opportunity not a problem. Maybe at the end of next season we'll both have a better idea of Tim's capabilities and maybe some alternative candidates who have a bit more credibility. As for pressure from the fans, when Liverpool finished 7th last season some of their fans called for Roger's head, John Henry just ignored them, Levy should take note.
jod
06/05/2014 08:38:00
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Pele10 - Just say "see all my previous posts" each time, it'll speed things up.
jod
06/05/2014 08:39:00
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Huge downside to keeping Tim...losing all the players will set us back years.....the players are good they just need someone to organise and lead them...You don't become a good manager overnight...
shedboy2
06/05/2014 08:42:00
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shedboy2 - right, because as we all know players can just walk away even if they are under contract and we have to accept any bid no matter how small.
jod
06/05/2014 08:44:00
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Jod- nope they just start playing like they don't care, because they don't....
shedboy2
06/05/2014 08:47:00
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I would like Rafa Benitez over all 3. Proven all over the place and allegedly wants to manage in the prem again. Would certainly sort out our awful defence. I do like the way Everton has been playing under Martinez, but remember, Everton were solid defensively anyway,so what he added is flair. We haven't been defending well, which is the building block to a good side. Could Martinez sort defence? I have my doubts. Whoever I think of, I end up back with Rafa Benitez. Think he would come too.
wellsey58
06/05/2014 08:49:00
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I fully understand some fans adamancy to stay loyal to Sherwood and to be fair he hasn't done a woeful job. In my opinion anyone that thinks otherwise is being over critical. The main problems with Sherwood are; has he the experience of managing a big club, is he a player motivator, is he a skilled tactician, is his coaching staff up to the job, and last and probably the most importantly, is he a big enough name to entice the higher calibre players to want to play under him? Unfortunately the answer to most of these questions is no.
Now, I'm only going to talk about FDB, mainly because he is the guy I'm gunning for, but secondly because I think so far he is the only legitimate candidate. Ask yourself the same questions as done so above for Sherwood, and although you'll find yourself answering yes a lot more! It's a fantasy to believe that everything could fall so nicely, as to land FDB, take Stam, Bergkamp and Overmars along for the ride, and for spurs to start playing total football, however it's still all quite possible under this man.
Personal opinion, but in a game of top trumps, Tim only wins in 2 departments. Knowledge of the PL and knowledge of the club. Although it's beneficial, how necessary is it? How many managers have walked into PL clubs without this experience and done well from the off I wonder.
RyanHotSpur
06/05/2014 08:49:00
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For the long term plan...Has to be FDB for me. The set up right through the ranks would be vastly improved if we were to follow the Ajax model IMO. Obviously concerns about what level he is at as a manager with only Ajax to judge him on, but certainly worth the risk providing we are going to adhere to yet another long term vision.

Pochettino gets his teams playing good football, but is he really excelling, where do Southampton sit in the Leauge?, and whilst I'd consider our squad deeper as a whole, they are also blessed with a few top players themselves.

Sherwood, well, I'm afraid he gets judged more for what he says as opposed to how his team performs. Here lies the problem for me. Too much of this, and as witnessed, it soon becomes a negative. Would this be a good way to start a season with 9 months of football to play out?. I doubt it.

As for Martinez. As Spurious has stated, I believe him to be a loyal type and do not see him leaving Everton. Only squeak might be if numerous players are sold beneath him and he becomes disgruntled IMO.

So in summary, whilst a risk yet again, for me, if we are to stick to a long term plan, FDB would be my choice out of the 3, not my ideal choice, but the one out of 3.
cider spurs
06/05/2014 08:56:00
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jod, thanks for taking the time to read my posts... ;-) On the subject of Roger's, have you not forgotten that he has already turned LOSER Levy down, because he knew he would no longer be the head coach of THFC had he been foolish enough to work with Sugar's apprentice? You say "Levy should take note? When has Levy ever taken note, or learnt from a single one of his catalogue of hugely embarrassing mistakes he has made??? An ENIC LOSER leopard never changes it's zero net spend, Fantasy Football spots... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
06/05/2014 08:57:00
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For me TS is probably a very good coach or No2 but not the manager and clubs representative to the media and the whole world. He cannot address the media without making himself look a fool, and if he looks stupid then the club looks stupid.
The problem is, now he's had a taste of the hot seat will he be ok with stepping down to a lesser role? I don't think so.

Levy has really made a mess of Spurs, many fans are anti Sherwood already so keeping him on will only end up with a season like this year. Sherwood will end up being sacked somewhere around Christmas. For me mid-season sackings are caused by panic decision.

How many clubs have changed managers in the Prem this season, it is a joke really. Why not change it so you can only change manager during a transfer window?
Personally I wouldn't be against the idea of sackings not possible during the season at all. You can only be judge after a sustained period of time, IMO. If the sacking occurs during the season then one would question the responsible parties for the hiring in the first place?
yiddyboy
06/05/2014 09:02:00
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My first choice would be Martinez,improbable I know, but the optimist in me sees Moyes going back to Everton....OK that's pure fantasy!
Tim, in my opinion, is just not ready for the PL just yet - and it's not just his footballing brain, it's more his lack of tact, impulsiveness and maturity that he needs to work on. He may get there one day but now is not the time.
I haven't a clue who DL has in mind but I would be happy with someone like FDB or Pochettino.
Durbanspur
06/05/2014 09:04:00
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Tim hasn't managed us to victory against one team judged to be on our level or above....in fact we've been spanked by the top teams and just seen us beaten by West Ham for the second time under him....where was a real stating CM partnership? for the guy that knew the club and players inside out, to not knowing the players to find them all much of a muchness the contradictions are staggering....as for being a name...that is all Tim is...he's been dinning out on winning the Pl for 20 years, dabbling in business and now dabbling in coaching...Time to show some ambition from the board not just go for the cheap option....
shedboy2
06/05/2014 09:14:00
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Jod good post trying to speed things up. Shed who are all the players who will leave because of TS? and how do you know each one will leave because of TS. How many will want to leave because we don't have CL? How many will want to leave because they are wanted by a bigger club? how many will want to leave because they are offered more money? how many will want to leave because they cant settle in London. Give us some hard evidence from the source to back up you constant claims. You know it all don't you Shed?
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 09:17:00
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Benitez, Ancelotti, Martinez, Pochettino, De Boar, Laudrup, Hoddle, Poyet would be my long list.
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 09:23:00
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Honestly dont understand why Mauricio Pochettino is even being considered, the article gives a decent account as why not to appoint him, average record in the prem, average record in Spain, speaks little English. Is he going to be able to manage players with bigger ego's?, is he going to be able to handle the pressure from the players, the board and the supporters for a top 4 push? is he going to attract the bigger names to our club? these questions should be already answered before appointing a manager NOT give him the role and cross our fingers. I'd rather Tim have the job.
coys1717
06/05/2014 09:24:00
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Firstly. Tim is no where near a failure. A guy with no experience and does not have his badges who does better at Spurs than AVB - who has all the badges and a Europa league trophy (albeit not significantly more experience). Tim has done pretty well to get a team to do at least what its quality demands...whilst AVB was getting below expected results with exactly the same squad. So Tim has done a decent job in non-ideal circumstances. Is he right to take us forward? No. Why? Because he obviously needs to learn. But I think he is the type of manager who will learn from failures, rather than learning on the job. We cannot afford to lose the progression that the club has made in the last 10 years. We cannot risk Tim because we have the opportunity to get a manager who can get that extra bit of performance from our squad. That won't be Tim. I like Tim, but I am not sure certain members of the squad like him. One thing that players hate is that someone with no track record talks as if he knows everything. Tim is one of them. He claims there is no need for a Sandro or Capoue and that there are others playing better than them....Really? Was Chadlli or Siggy better than them in central midfield lately...? Why is it that all the best teams and managers play holding midfielders? Why doesn't Tim? He lines up with 4-4-2 (with no holding midifielder) against teams with 3-man central midfield and gets easily overrun... He plays high line with no pressure on the ball and NO defensive midfielder and one less central midfielder. He plays 2 strikers where the only successful teams to do this have 2 of the best strikers in the country right now... We do it with a non-firing Soldado and Harry Kane... Tim has the centre half sent off in 2 matches early on (vs Citeh and West Ham), and fails to make the substitution for bring another CB on...as any experienced manager would do. 2 mins later we concede in both matches, and THEN he brings a CB on.... Surely you should learn from the first example...? Tim has done a good interim job after AVB cocked up the first half. The board have negotiated Spurs from being midtable and occasionally relegation threatened to top four contenders. Now is the time to get a guy in who can take a talented squad forward. Not someone on their apprenticeship. Martinez no. I love him. We should have got him instead of AVB. But too late. Everton have him now. Pochettino - not for me. I think he took over already a team that was playing at potential. He was just a new face with different ideas - just as Tim was. I am concerned about the language thing. Benitez - I don't like him personally. But he showed unbelievable skill and judgement when he picked up at Chelsea, and he also did well initially at Liverpool and before.... I think that he may be a bit tainted from his experiences, but I do believe that he would take us forward. He is a good choice for me...I am prepared to swallow my personal dislikes for the good of my team. De Boer - nice pedigree, and knows how to set up teams in Europe. Another good choice.
TonyRich
06/05/2014 09:31:00
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their needs to be a thorough investigation into that twitter leak late last night.find the offender and sack him/her.this makes our club look classless
ghulamville
06/05/2014 09:39:00
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Pj, the players signed for us because we were a big club with a vision. That collapsed when everything changed at Christmas. I said in jan in an article that players would leave under this tenure as it wasn't what or who they signed up for! Many of our best players have been ridiculed publicly and dropped in preference to the managers favourites. Only one thing will give us a chance of keeping many players now, or indeed attracting new quality players! Needs to happen soon or we are heading south next season!
Dublin Hotspur
06/05/2014 09:43:00
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Tim 'the greatest manager we've ever had' Sherwood is about to leave us with the worst league finish since 08/09. Perhaps that's a bit harsh considering he started at a disadvantage...but then he's been in charge of easily the highest valued squad (comparatively speaking) we've had in the prem era. One of the strange things I've noticed is that for all the talk of his high win% no one ever seems to talk about his loss% which is absolutely horrendous. That's the thing with Tim, we either win or we lose and the wins only ever come against the teams where there's a clear gulf in quality. If there's just a choice between Poch and FDB it'd be de Boer for me purely because I think the way he sets his team out with Ajax is the best fit for the players we currently have...the only question then would be whether that set up would work in the prem.
flipper
06/05/2014 09:44:00
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shedboy2 - Its ok for a player to throw a hissy fit if he's already being offered a better contract by someone else. Its not so smart if they are trying to persuade other clubs they are worth buying.
jod
06/05/2014 09:45:00
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ghulamville - Sounds like Tim was involved then :-)
yiddyboy
06/05/2014 09:46:00
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Ghulam. The club already looks classless. The tweet was a hack according to the club. Security will be ramped up they say! No worse than what schnzxfgy has been doing all season, and a few other gooners. The relationship between pool and spurs is strong so I reckon the club are speaking the truth. It was probably a goon fan who hacked in my opinion.
Dublin Hotspur
06/05/2014 09:48:00
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TonyRich stop being so reasonable please, is there a place on here for such intelligent posting? For me that post best sums up how things have been, how they are and Tim Sherwood.
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 09:48:00
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PJcoys-1882 - Laudrup - not for me. I was jealous of Swansea for picking up the astute choice ahead of AVB, but ultimaely I do not believe that Laudrup has the burning desire to succeed that a manager needs. Tim has that at least....but Laudrup does not need it. I cannot see him taking us forward. Hoddle - well, he wasn't good the first time round. Why should he be better now...?
TonyRich
06/05/2014 09:48:00
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yiddyboy-wouldnt surprise me if they put the blame on him
ghulamville
06/05/2014 09:50:00
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TonyRich - You say we can't take the risk with Tim, what risk is that exactly? Its not failing to get champions league, because we haven't had that since before he took over. Losing europa would be a bonus not a problem. Relegation isn't an issue. So what exactly is this risk I keep hearing about ?
jod
06/05/2014 09:53:00
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flipper - the win % cannot be ignored BUT must always be treated with a pinch of salt. Tim's record vs top four is not only 4 losses out of 4, the goal difference is minus thirteen from those four games. We weren't close. To break into top four, you cannot give them all 6 points! At least AVB got a point out of Chelsea this season, and last season, we took 10 points from the top four - as opposed to ONE point this time around. This is the difference.
TonyRich
06/05/2014 09:55:00
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shedboy2 - "Tim hasn't managed us to victory against one team judged to be on our level or above", last time I looked Everton were above us in the table and we beat them at White Hart Lane. Another example of a Spurs fan thinking we are better than we are ? In any event its irrelevant. All that counts at the end of the season is how many points you have, how you got them doesn't change the total, there are no bonus points on offer for beating bigger teams. Chelsea won at Anfield then dropped two points against Norwich, Liverpool had their title ambitions blown apart by Crystal Palace.
jod
06/05/2014 10:00:00
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ghulamville - Coming on here today after last night is a bit brave isn't it?
yiddyboy
06/05/2014 10:00:00
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I think the key to any appointment is more about Levy willingness to give ' The New Man ' full control of all football matters. Coaches like LVG and FDB would want such a guarantee from Levy. Personally I would like to see a coach like FDB appointed on a 4 year contract and let him get on with it.
AllanDK
06/05/2014 10:01:00
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why what happenned last night?
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:01:00
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jod - the risk is that Man U will get Van Gaal, and will be back. Chelsea will run away with the title next season. Citeh are Citeh. Liverpool are back to being top four contenders. Arsenal are Arsenal. Everton finished above us, and are additional top 4 contenders. In the last few years we have become an established top 5 club, finishing 4th twice. Now we are 6th. The risk is losing stature, and losing the opportunity to become competitive with the big boys. We need to stay in contention when the stadium arrives. Because a) it could derail our progression somewhat, b) it may take a couple of seasons to really feel the benefits of the new season. Look, we sack Harry in 4th place. AVB takes us down to 5th, and then 7th before getting sacked. Get the wrong choice again, and how far down can we go...? Look at Man U? Moyes takes them down from runaway 1st to 7th. Look at Liverpool...it took a few seasons for them to get back to the top. Those 2 dropped from higher starting points than us.
TonyRich
06/05/2014 10:02:00
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benefits of the new stadium.....
TonyRich
06/05/2014 10:04:00
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Yiddy, I think thats a good idea about restricting managers sackings....Dublin why did the "collapse" happen at Christmas? Are we not still the same size now as before Xmas? do we still not have the same vision as before Xmas? Are we not still building the same new stadium (please NO Pele) have we still not training at the best facilities in the Country? Has the club changed its investment plans since Xmas? So you said in January the players would leave under his tenure, how many have gone? if he is sacked after the last game and the window opens in August how can that be possible, you are making claims based on assumptions and not knowledge, based on VERY limited understanding, if any, of what is actually happening at the club.
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 10:04:00
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According to today's press, Darren Lewis reports that Spurs have "set their sights on Martinez". As a life long Spurs fan, I find it intensely embarrassing, that the club are turning themselves into a laughing stock with this "managerial lucky dip". What will Levy say to him, "i'd like to discuss the manager's job at Spurs with you, you are currently 6th choice, are you interested". We are destroying our credibility as a major PL club, lacking dignity, and integrity. Come on Levy get you act together, and sort it out, quietly.
Frank
06/05/2014 10:05:00
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Ghulam but ur a Liverfool fan? Why do u continue with ur fake persona?
Mix26
06/05/2014 10:07:00
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You are probably better off forgetting it :-)

If TS remains at the helm, he must be given the WHOLE season irrespective of how bad he may be doing. If he's to be replaced at the first sign of trouble then that ship has already sailed....
yiddyboy
06/05/2014 10:07:00
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TonyRich, I do tend to agree with you on Laudrup, he seems a little too clever, astute to want to put up with all the hassle and negative public domain stuff accompanying being a manager at the top level, cant say for sure of course but you might sum him up here. The same ref Hoddle, i do tend to agree, but they are both at the rear end of my list and if we get past all those before I am struggling to see anyone better, having said that I don't have the understanding the club and or board has of who is available with strong potential around europe/world
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 10:08:00
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frank- i feel the board havnt a scooby,ive felt that for a bit.daniel levy wants tim sherwood to remain but the board members have reservations i am hearing
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:11:00
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Frank, that's only the clubs fault if the press are reporting truthfully in the first place.
flipper
06/05/2014 10:16:00
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TonyRich - You seem to have a strange idea of what constitutes risk. United getting Van Gaal isn't a risk, they've got him if they want him. What other clubs do or don't do isn't altered by who manages Spurs, I don't understand why you think that's relevant. You seem totally confused by the importance of league positions. Last season Liverpool finished 7th, this year they will probably finish 2nd, could still win it. The only league positions that count are the top four. After that finishing outside the europa places actually improves your chances the following season, Liverpool and Everton have shown that. There's nothing in what you've said that constitutes a real risk.
jod
06/05/2014 10:16:00
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Where are you getting this info Ghulamville? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
06/05/2014 10:16:00
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Morning All, Haven’t been on here since the embarrassment of a game on Saturday. Im just glad that after the weekend we can put this nightmare of a season behind us and do what needs to be done over the summer. First and foremost, it doesn’t matter if we had the best manager in the world, our back four (ALL of THEM) just aren’t up to it. I felt sorry for Kabs as he was in 2 minds and made the wrong choice. Danny Rose was again way out of position and I just cant wait for QPR or someone to come in for him in the summer

Manager wise, I still want to see us go for Mancini. Proven winner, managed in the PL and by all accounts wouldn’t be opposed to return. Im 50/50 on FDB, but I’ll be honest I don’t know a great deal about him. Pochettino has done NOTHING to deserve the spurs job and would be an even braver decision than AVB. One things is for sure, it CANT be Tim Sherwood. Ok, he hasn’t sent us into the championship, but that’s because we genuinely have a decent set of players. I could manage spurs and finish in the top half FFS

Saturday again highlighted why he can’t be here next season. The wrong team selection from the start, the wrong formation from the start, the wrong game plan from the start. He talked about “taking the Fight” to them, yet set up with sandro on the bench and siggy in midfield. I mean that is just stupidity in a bag!
hudderspur
06/05/2014 10:17:00
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believe me or not i know someone who knows one of the directors.the guys info is very good
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:18:00
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So managing a club for 4 years and winning the Dutch League doesn't count; organising all the teams in the club to play the same systems and developing young talent doesn't count; playing at the highest levels of international and European football doesn't count. So I guess that leaves Tim then. I'm tired of speculating on this mess that Levy has created, and given his track record over 14 years it is very unlikely that he he will make and secure the obvious choice who is De Boer. He is the right age, has the managerial experience, is tactically astute, has top-level playing experience and has vision. Tim only competes on the age criteria.
Harry-Kari
06/05/2014 10:22:00
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Omg can put this non sense to bed about Dims record at Spurs! Dim has been in charge for 27 matches. W13 D4 L10 which is 48% win ratio. That is the real facts and nothing can change it! He is NOT the best performing manager and he ain't the future of shiet! NOBODY wanted Dim to get the job and he did not DESERVE the job in the slightest! DL appointed him and more than likely against strong oposition from in and around the club, but with DL we all know he does whatever he likes. Dim will not be manager based on results, formations, tactics, moral and above all his lack of etiquette and knowledge for the game. Dim knows he does not have the job and so does everyone else! That's why the rumours and qoutes have come from Ajax etc. Avoid the inevitable should u like but stop holding onto false hopes for a complete numpty who really does not give a crap about Spurs! P.S he is also a BIG Le Ars fan...
Mix26
06/05/2014 10:22:00
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I don't think tim has done a bad job this season but there are some on here that think that we should win every single game and thrash the bottom 3 whenever we play them. However, Tim's straight talking approach seems to rub people up the wrong way, and considering the way that footballers expect to be treated nowadays, this may not be great for team unity.

Whoever we get needs to be able to sort out our defence. This may not entirely Tim's fault but poor defending has been a reoccuring theme under his stewardship. Nevertheless, i'm sure our DoF is aware of this and I expect to see some of our current shower moved on with some more experience brought in. Would ashly cole be available, perhaps?
Conan_the_Spur
06/05/2014 10:24:00
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Harry-Kari - If winning the Dutch league with Ajax made you a brilliant manager then McClaren winning it with FC Twente would, by the same logic, make him an absolute genius. But of course you aren't actually employing logic are you ?
jod
06/05/2014 10:30:00
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Sherwood has managed to have cobbled together a passable win % almost entirely made up of victories against teams that anybody could manage our squad to beat. In games where there is a need for a specific team set-up, game plan, and tactical approach, of course we have come up short. The players look unhappy, jaded, demotivated, lacking fight, and a must win mentality. It is an open secret that several players are fed up with lack of game time, and public vilification by the manager. Granted there were problems, and we weren't exactly flying, when he was appointed, but he hasn't realistically improved anything during his time in post. If you want to see how a change in manager can, and should work, look no further that Palace and Sunderland. Both clubs were doomed to relegation when Pullis and Poyet came in, both have transformed their clubs, not by spending on new players, but by organisation, planning, getting players fully onside by man management, instilling a willingness to battle and fight, and to defend properly, and both have managed great results against top clubs, and are now safe. The difference of course is that both men had been around the block a few times, knew the score, kept their heads down, said very little, and let their results and performances do the talking, thereby retaining their dignity. If Sherwood ever manages to pull his head out from up his own arse, stops trying to be a jack the lad media personality, and concentrates on his job, he should watch, look and listen to more experienced people, he might just learn something.
Frank
06/05/2014 10:30:00
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jod-nice one
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:33:00
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Conan I believe it's the stupid comments Dim makes that embarrass the club and it's supporters...
Mix26
06/05/2014 10:33:00
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fdb is avb without the european credentials
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:34:00
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what with the underwhelming names being bounded about,it leads me to ask why avb was let go?
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:38:00
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jod did u read HK post? U insult him with farts into the wind! I cannot even get one decent post on why Dim deserves the job? Someone? Anyone? Phuck it I'll even take a sign from the heavens to make me understand...
Mix26
06/05/2014 10:38:00
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Kari, sherwood has played at the top level, that one more, come on stay real and honest to yourelf. How do you honestly know he doesn't have vision, have you sat down with him to discuss his vision?
PJcoys-1882
06/05/2014 10:39:00
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ghulumville is a scouser who pretends to be a Spurs supporter...
Mix26
06/05/2014 10:40:00
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FDB would have us playing attacking football with crisp passing! He is excactly what we need at THFC. The question is do we supporters have the patience to build a new? I for one think that this is the only way to go; Lets not forget; 'A Team of depth does not appear Magically, but rather evolve over time'. No matter who is appointed we the supporters must realise that there will be NO instant gratification.
AllanDK
06/05/2014 10:43:00
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Jod so what makes you think FDB is not good enough for Spurs? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
06/05/2014 10:44:00
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Mix-you are a sad pathetic loser,people like you who are so angry with life shouldnt be near a computer for your own sake.its because guys like you that we are losing brilliant posters like MAN ON
ghulamville
06/05/2014 10:47:00
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It was of course grossly unfair to Sherwood, the players, and us the fans, for a top 5/6 PL club with aspirations towards a top 4 finish and CL qualification, to actually appoint a totally unqualified, inexperienced, first time coach, with a second rate coaching team, to a club of this stature. It was said to be a "caretaker role" until the end of the season, Sherwood then backed Levy into a corner and was given an 18 month contract. I will say confidently that this situation hasn't ever, and wouldn't happen, at any other similar football club. He must must be moved out before the damage he will cause to squad quality, due to his somewhat simplistic beliefs re. effort and ability, and team unity, due to his habit of public vilification, of either individuals, or the team, and zero man management skills, will take seasons to repair.
Frank
06/05/2014 10:48:00
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Frank, you say that Tim's victories were all against teams that we should beat. You then speak about how well Sunderland and Palace play - surely these 2 relegation fighters are among the list of teams that 'anybody could manage our squad to beat'.

Verts has looked a bit jaded and Ade has returned to his natural state of sullen indifference but to say that every player is jaded and unmotivated is pure hyperbole.

Mix, I can understand that some of Tim's comments have rattled a few cages, but I don't see them as embarrassing as the elevated sense of entitlement that leads some fans to constantly overestimate our chances of top 4. the latter being the greater source of cruel jibes and taunts from opposing fans.
Conan_the_Spur
06/05/2014 10:48:00
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Ghulamville, he was let go because we started the season as a team very difficult ot beat but also rarely troubled the opposition goal keeper, then we got trounced by City and Liverpool and struggled against weaker oppositon. From AVB's point of view, we sold the players he wanted to keep and we failed to sign the players he wanted we were also pretty hamstrung by injuries!! According to Wikipedia it was by mutual consent and we didn't fire him: On 16 December 2013, Tottenham announced that Villas-Boas had left the club "by mutual consent".[32] The dismissal, with Spurs lying seventh in the Premier League and having won all six of their Europa League group games, followed a series of disappointing domestic league results that included a 6–0 defeat away to Manchester City and culminated in a 5–0 home defeat to Liverpool.[33] Villas-Boas left the club with the highest percentage of league wins of any manager in the club's Premier League era.
Slurms McKenzie
06/05/2014 10:49:00
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FDB same as AVB? One big flaw in that is FDB prefers othordox wingers to supply the front men. Yes FDB likes to keep the ball, keep the opposition running, wasting their energy. Makes sense to retain the ball until they leaves gaps to take advantage? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
06/05/2014 10:49:00
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Mix26, the redscousers wouldn't touch with a barge pole - why do you think the pretence ?!
Highgatespur
06/05/2014 10:54:00
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Any manager we get will be a gamble, there is one kind of manager that Levy has not appointed and that is an experienced manager, well apart from Redknapp that is. Sherwood is not the answer and most of us know that, we need an appointment soon.
Kong
06/05/2014 10:55:00
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jod, McClaren may well have been a fluke, but FDB has won it 4 times on the spin, and developed many good players as well through the Ajax ranks, during his tenure. To compare him to "The wally with the brolly" reminds me of the chalk and cheese analogy.
Frank
06/05/2014 10:58:00
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Finally, worked out the conundrum of whether TS is a gooner or not - ITK has it that he registered as a fan forgetting he was on L'arse site and 20 years on he sitll registered as one ...such is his strength of character (or so complicated is the process to deregister and re-register as a Spurs fan) he has decided not to change his goons status....

Unbelivable ? hey it seems ok for some on here...
Highgatespur
06/05/2014 10:58:00
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Kong, what's going on ? Almost sounding like myself .... come on get a grip.... LOL
Highgatespur
06/05/2014 11:00:00
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My biggest issue with Sherwood is not that he has failed to get any of the seven recent signings playing anywhere near their potential its that he has failed to get our proven stars playing anywhere near their potential. If he is to stay the result would be a mass exodus of our squad and a rebuilding job on a shoe string budjet. FDB coming in with a new coaching staff maybe the stimulus some of our players need to get back on form and convince more to stay for at least another season, in any case a massive overhaul of our coaching staff is required as the whole squad and our approach to games is looking jaded and a bit predictable.
Slurms McKenzie
06/05/2014 11:02:00
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Spot on Kong :) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
06/05/2014 11:04:00
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Highgate, that is true, can't have that, I will take time out :)
Kong
06/05/2014 11:04:00
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