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The Post Mortem Started in October

The Post Mortem Started in October

Sherwood.... 12 wins from 20 games, is it enough to keep him at the Lane? Yes, according to Sherwood, No according to Daniel Levy`s managerial scouts.

"Don`t judge me on the last two games" 'It should not make a difference,' Sherwood said. 'If we are relying on the last two games to decide the future of this club then it could be decided on a 30-yard shot or a referee's decision.'The people upstairs will know who they want and the last two games should not make a difference.'

Tim has just been the fall guy for this season the real culprits sit in the Director`s box. Why sack a manager that gets us into the Champions League, then sack a manager who was to take us into the new direction, buy him players he apparently did not want, sack him and then offer a 18 month contract to a Interim Manager and then sack him. Why offer the Interim Manager a contract any longer than to the end of the season and then review!

When a Manager has a plan in their minds eye they need the management to back that plan. It may take time to take shape but if you then grow impatient and don`t let the plan happen you go back to square one. It`s not Martin Jol or Ramos or Harry Redknapp or AVB or Tim Sherwood that should be judged, its Levy and Baldini!

According to the Independent: Although Spurs are still monitoring De Boer`s situation, Overmars, (ex Gooner wing man) and now Sporting Director doesn`t want De Boer to go to Spurs. Enter Southampton head coach Mauricio Pochettino who appears to have the easiest path to White Hart Lane and has strong support in the Tottenham boardroom.

The Independent state that "Shortly after Sunday`s final game of the season against Aston Villa, Spurs` hierarchy are expected to agree a deal with Sherwood over the remaining year of his 18-month contract, allowing them to begin formal discussions with potential successors".
So as the curtain falls on our season, one that was going to take us in a "different direction" it ended up going in just "one direction", mostly sideways! Pass, pass, pass and no shots! We played the 65% possession game almost all season long and normally in the wrong part of the pitch whilst our opponents just lobbed the ball over the top of our back four and helped themselves to a goal fest.

Our football has been so predictable this season even West Ham and Newcastle were able to work us out! This season has produced less passion, less inventiveness, less quality in the 6 yard box than any other season I can remember. I have felt more atmosphere in a library than at WHL this year!

One look at the League Table will tell you that 72 Points is not enough to get anywhere near a top four position next season. We took just 1 point off the Top Four this season. If you can`t win away against the top four at least win your home games. Having a goal difference of just +1 at the end of a season tells its own story.

Whoever is the next Manager one thing they need to sort out is our defence. Losing 11 games is not good enough. The top 3 lost just 6 each all season, Scum 7, even Everton only lost 8. We shipped 51 goals this season, only Newcastle conceded more than us out of the top ten teams in the Premiership. Our 3 forwards scored just 19 goals this season, 23 came from midfield and 4 from the back four, what does that tell you about set pieces and corners when our two Centre Backs can only score 2 Goals all season!

Up front, Soldado looked completely lost in terms of confidence and our defenders kept passing the ball amongst themselves in the back four until they lost it and then gave it away. At this level, a loose square ball or forward pass to an opposition player is all it takes to let the other team in and how many times did our defence to that this season? 18 times! We created 18 errors at the back, more conceded goals than any other team, Southampton were next with 12 mistakes, that bodes well for us then if Pochettino takes over!

The bottom line is that we are either in it to win or we are not! Levy has to hire a top quality manager and whoever he chooses they have to stay in post for more than two seasons! Sacking Manager after Manager will only result in one thing; losing our way as a club. We don`t know what style to play, we let the DOF choose the players for the Manager and then we change the Manager. The players are confused, the fans are confused, and the result? A season of wins with no real performances behind them and defeats so big they have made us look like a non league side.

Some of our players have had their worst season ever and we have somehow managed to make some very good players look very ordinary. The post mortem for our season started as early as October last year. By the time we met Hull at WHL for the 2nd time in 3 days in October the football was so boring the crowd had lost the will to live!

Did you hear the Gooners singing against West Brom last weekend; "We`re Champions League, we`re Champions League, Tottenham Hotspur, we`re Champions League". I felt like recording it and sending it as a ring tone to Daniel Levy for his mobile!

You don`t need to read this article to know what N17 and the rest of London thinks about our season, it`s written all over the tube station walls!
Spurs are bigger than you Daniel Levy.......
We`ll be back with or without you!
COYS

Written by OyVeh Maria



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Writer:OyVeh Maria
Date:Thursday May 8 2014
Time: 7:29AM

Comments

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Levy seems addicted to the DoF model...BUT HE is completely unsuitable for it...he micro manages!
shedboy2
08/05/2014 07:39:00
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Are the cup games included in the 12 out of 20, because I make it 1 win out of 6, terrible. Fewer PL wins and more games where there was a visible plan and a tactical set up that the players believed in would have helped his cause. Forgetting the shambolic losses even the games that were won we never looked convincing with Llorris having to work much harder than was in order. Personally I don't think he will make it as a decent coach, if he thinks he can he should get his qualifications and prove himself at a lower level. Dismal decision by Levy, gambled a season, make the right decision Daniel, you are running out of lifes.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 07:53:00
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Like I said in previous articles, we should be beating all the teams below us, it should not be such a mission to beat the likes of Norwich, spammers, West Brom, etc. This is where we have dropped lots of points. I am not concerned about losing to the top 4 teams as we are not good enough to be in the top 4, however we out of the other 30 games, we should be winning at least 24 which would give us a minimum of 72 points. Man Utd have consistently won titles because they dispatched the easy teams without any problems. It is one of the things Fergie excelled at. Beat all the small teams and you get loads of points, so the odd defeat does not affect you. Have Man utd ever won a title on the final day of the season, I may be wrong, but I don't think so. I remember Blackburn winning after they couldn't beat west ham in '95. Arsenal have also got this down to a tee. Wenger knows he will lose games to city, chelsea, utd, liverpool. But he also knows that if he beats all the others, champ league is guaranteed. We have constantly shot ourselves in the foot because we can't beat the teams below us. We need to put this right.
vicspur
08/05/2014 07:54:00
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Can't believe Tim is so deluded. From day one Levy had him installed as caretaker. To have a sniff of the job Tim needed to get top 4 AND win silverware. Levy is a completely dishonest and devious character who has a history of stabbing managers in the back and at Spurs we now get what we deserve - knee-jerk reactions that put the club back years every time. Considering that one of the criticisms of AVB were his man-management skills, Sherwood on his showing has been very, very poor.
Peter Agathangelou
08/05/2014 08:09:00
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OyVeh Maria, Brilliant article! You sum the whole situation up at THFC when you write "Tim has just been the fall guy for this season the real culprits sit in the Director`s box." Nail on the head! I have been guilty myself of calling Levy's unqualified head coach DIM. I get angry when I see him on the touchline and I want to smack the TV screen during his arrogant TV interviews. But Tim did not employ himself. One day out of the blue, LOSER Levy changed Sherwoods life. Told him he wanted him to become head coach of THFC! Can you imagine how Sherwood must have felt! I believe Levy tried to get Sherwood to agree to a short term, to the end of the season contract, but Tim stayed strong and said, I want a season and a half, and with Levy having no plan B other than GOD, (Glenn Hoddle) who was way to high profile and loved by the Spurs fans to abuse and fire for a second time, took up the Sherwood option because it was the cheapest... The season and half contract means nothing to Levy because he has bought out, paid off many of his coaches contracts. A coaches contract means nothing to LOSER Levy, even if it costs the club many millions, because he writes off these losses, balances the books through the sells of the clubs best players. No problem for LOSER Levy to hide Sherwoods 750 thousand pay off (or whatever) in the balance sheets, after he brings in more than 40 million into THFC from the sells of Pauli, Sandro, Lloris etc this summer. ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
08/05/2014 08:24:00
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a big yes Oyveh a sad no Italian
pjcoys1883
08/05/2014 08:25:00
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The alchemy of management is missing throughout the club...there doesn't seem to be a decent people manager in sight. ...unfortunately that starts at the top...Integrity needs to be burned into the brains from the board down...
shedboy2
08/05/2014 08:33:00
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shedboy2, Nail on the head!!!
Pele10
08/05/2014 08:38:00
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hello everybody.is it just me who thinks tim sherwood is doing a decent job?
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/05/2014 08:40:00
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hey guys whats with all the hate
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/05/2014 08:42:00
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shedboy, as much as we love to hate our neighbours they do conduct themselves with dignity and integrity, not qualities that Levy exudes.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 08:45:00
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tarkan mardinCOYS- yes...;) No hate here, just observations and criticism...only a hater would take a word like Hate and use it so out of context to try abash people with differing views...the irony I'm sure is not lost...;)
shedboy2
08/05/2014 09:16:00
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Oyveh Maria. brilliant article. It sms everything up perfectly. Italian Yiddo. I agree with everything you say except Daniel Levy is not running out of lives. It seems that he is the one person at Spurs who can make one bad decision after another, one mistake after another and never face the consequences. Pele10. Spot on. "I'm Daniel Levy, I'll do what I want"
DoncasterHotspur
08/05/2014 09:19:00
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It was a huge mistake to part ways with AVB, Dim was a shocking replacement. We have discussed this in depth on many occasions. I cant for the life of me see why we rant and rave but actually zero gets done about it. Is there anyway of actually getting stuck into Levy? Do the season ticket holders not have a say or a committee etc? One thing i've always noticed is the communication with the club is restricted to a few statements which give away zero information or planning. I'm not sure if this is because Levy does not like the heat or it's business. A good friend at Investec worked closely with DL son and his words to me were the DL is big Spurs fan at heart a genuinely wants us to compete at the top.
Mix26
08/05/2014 09:25:00
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Interesting to read Levy's end of season comments in the programme on Sunday. We will still be keeping our best players Daniel, is the stadium build just around the corner Daniel. i can't wait to hear what you say!!
DoncasterHotspur
08/05/2014 09:28:00
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"12 wins from 20 games" REALLY??? From where I'm sitting, it's

P - 27
W - 13
D - 4
L - 10
Win Rate 48%

I'm sure it's wonderfully convenient for our beloved manager & his band of deluded disciples to forget our cup matches, but, as a supporter of this club for over 35 years, ALL games count to me.

"Don't judge me on the last 2 games, it should not make a difference"... REALLY? Well in that case, why have we ever sacked any previous manager? If losses should not make a difference, why were those previous managers removed? What a dick this guy is!!

"Why sack a manager who got us into the Champions League?". Umm, because he was doing his utmost to get out of our club, by pimping himself to The FA for a job he had no chance of getting. He even went as far as offering Brendan Rodgers the job as his assistant, for a job he didn't even have. LMFAO. Not to mention, as soon as Woy was confirmed as England manager, the manager that got us CL football hired the 'super agent' that Wayne Rooney used to get a massive payrise. The manager and that agent then strolled into Levy's office and demanded a payrise. LAUGHABLE!! Best of all, this all happened in the same week that the managers boss had lost his mother. Yeah, why sack a manager that got us into the Champions League!!

"Why sack a manager who had a plan and was bought players he did not want?" Well, it appears that the football was far too boring, not to mention the wonderfully educated THFC fan-base yelling for his head to be removed. The chairman seemingly had little choice, IF he did indeed sack that particular manager. To me, it's blatantly obvious that that particular manager chose to walk, and who can blame him after what you mentioned?

I actually couldn't give a ***** who the next manager is. Whoever is selected, the poor *****er doesn't stand a chance. Our trigger happy owner/board, alongside our wonderfully patient fan-base = The poor sap will be on a hiding to nothing!!
coopsieyid
08/05/2014 09:29:00
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Great article oyveh, can't add to it yet, see how the thread goes! Better be some good news in the next week, in and out!
Dublin Hotspur
08/05/2014 09:31:00
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Article is pretty much spot on, AVB should never have been employed in the first place just like all the other failed managers that Levy has employed. Hopefully Tim will be the last and we start seeing a change in strategy.
coys1717
08/05/2014 09:32:00
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Where's that Galway Goon? Or that HGH muppet? This should cheer them up.

Days at the top of the league this season:

Arseanal - 128
Chel$ki - 64
Liverpoo - 59
Man City 11
Man Utd - 2

Timing, it's all about the timing :-)
coopsieyid
08/05/2014 09:32:00
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One was left with no choice but to share this article, it had the headline....

Sherwood's Spurs have won less, scored fewer goals and have a leakier defence than under AVB (so, why was he sacked again?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2579982/Tim-Sherwoods-Spurs-won-scored-fewer-goals-leakier-defence-AVB.html
coopsieyid
08/05/2014 09:35:00
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leonardo jardim is the latest name on the management carousel
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/05/2014 09:35:00
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Just found out that Sandro has been left out of the Brazil squad! He must be one angry beast! This of course why he went on twitter a month ago telling the football world he was fit. But unfortunately for him the Brazil coach was not going to take the risk on a semi fit player. Sandro must be furious about the sacking of AVB because he was first choice (when fit) when AVB was here. The knock on effects of LOSER Levy's decision to replace AVB with Tim Sherwood have hurt and effected many... Club, players, supporters... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
08/05/2014 09:41:00
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Tweets from Sandro on Sherwood " He will leave at the end of the season.Then, new coach,new everything"
Mix26
08/05/2014 09:41:00
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coopsie save your breath mate, it's become illegal to comment on Dim in that manner. He is some sort of jam in people doughnut on here who needs to be addressed in a more formal way...
Mix26
08/05/2014 09:46:00
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DoncasterHotspur, I do think Levy is running out of lives. There is discontent and disillusionment in the stands and more empty blue seats appearing, I normally have plenty of takers for my ticket when I can't make it, at face value, I had to give it away for the Sunderland game. Fans have power, without us there is no business for Enic to grow.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 09:53:00
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Pele/Mix- Sandro seems rather cheesed off...I think he feels at home here but all the change, he's hardly played this year etc is getting to him...let's just hope we can get a guy in to settle the squad down and start playing to their strengths, someone who realises we need a new LB and that the converted winger isn't up to it! (Tim just wants to annoy the fans now)
shedboy2
08/05/2014 09:53:00
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IY- they still have their property portfolio!
shedboy2
08/05/2014 09:54:00
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The big mistake was AVB. We had just finished 4th twice in 3 seasons and had a successful CL run in-between. There wasn't a lot wrong. As the author says, if you are going to remove a guy that was achieving that, then the next appointment needs to be a step up. Then Baldini came in....and no one can claim success in any way. Levy messed that up. However, given that the season was already cocked up, I personally think that the appointment of Sherwood (as interim) was a good choice - AS LONG as we get the right choice in summer. Tim did bad in cups, and generally has a good record in league - barring games vs top four. Sherwood does deserve a stab at managing and learning his trade, but his formula is not right for a top four chasing team. Perhaps West Brom might have a go with him.
TonyRich
08/05/2014 09:59:00
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Mix 26, I'm sure DL is a spurs fan, however that's not enough. All of us here are spurs fans, doesn't make us qualified to run the club. I just hope whoever comes in, stays for three years at least and if that means we end up a little lower down the league next season whilst we sort everything out, then so be it
In-spurs-ational
08/05/2014 10:06:00
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I agree with the above written, but have lost complete faith in Levy and the football side of things he is in charge of. Does the Southampton manager really have any of us excited?? This is a guy that TS outwitted twice this season and we also gave his team a 2 goal headstart in one of them!! He got lucky at Southampton with the young England players there and no real pressure managing Us will bring.
WestStandEnclosure
08/05/2014 10:07:00
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Tony Rich, I actually hope Tim stays with us. He can be the new man's number two (or three) and learn the ropes.
In-spurs-ational
08/05/2014 10:08:00
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Tony but the appointment was made, Dim played his cards and got the job. There was no interim status etc so Dim can and must accept the responsibility of the managers role. A favourable record in the league yes but short of anything remotely being called a "record". What we saw was Dim winning a few games we were expected to win or the quality of the opposition was simply shocking. We have in no way progressed in any position on or off the pitch during Dim's "record" and he lost almost every genuinely "competitive" match we were involved in ie against top 4 and cup games. There is genuinely a 100 names ahead of Dim who would or could manage in the PL I suspect.
Mix26
08/05/2014 10:10:00
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I’m assuming that we will finish in 6th place and that the table does not lie. Therefore, as vicspur stated, next season our task is clear. We need to take the majority of points when we play teams below us, and we need to take some points when we play teams above us. If we finish next season above 6th place, we will have progressed. What the teams needs, and how we should be playing next season, will be debated on here between now and August.
Geofspurs
08/05/2014 10:11:00
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Tim needs to leave the club entirely...we don't want a sniper in the background....he's already annoyed half the players, Ade has stopped playing again now that he knows Tim won't be able to get him a new contract so perhaps a change up top is needed as well...very difficult to get a striker scoring in the prem...we're in a Horlicks of our own making...
shedboy2
08/05/2014 10:20:00
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Geofspurs - we have done fine against teams below. It has been the top four that has been shocking. Last season we got 11 points from the top 4. Only losing 3 games - all away. This season we lost 7 of the 8 games vs top four....with just the point at home to Chelsea to show for it. We lost 10 points there when compared to last season. This is the area we need to improve on.
TonyRich
08/05/2014 10:20:00
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Let's get Jesus in from Benfica...how many of their team would get in ours?....yep let's get Jesus in to resurrect us!
shedboy2
08/05/2014 10:21:00
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Levy chose AVB, not any of us, but how was he the problem? Finished 5th with our highest points tally last season and 1 point away from 4th, gets a load of players with no PL experience and no pre-season, possibly none of his choice, what do we expect? Get real.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 10:22:00
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How many people on here would happily let a person purporting to be a surgeon operate on them if that person doesn't actually have the necessary qualifications or training to actually legally be called a surgeon? Not many I bet. I know that football management isn't brain surgery (or rocket science apparently) but a modicum of training and qualifications should be a prerequisite. Had the training and qualifications been had then maybe fewer glaring errors of judgement on the field and from the gob would have been made and there may have been some hope for the future. Unfortunately not.
SpuriousLife
08/05/2014 10:22:00
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A announcement needs to be made about Sherwood and quick. People need to know that a change will be happening and change the outlook of the club.
Kong
08/05/2014 10:22:00
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Mix26 - a 1.5 year contract amounts to interim status. We can remove him at low cost. I agree with Shedboy that Tim cannot remain with the club. He now has eyes on more than just a background role.
TonyRich
08/05/2014 10:23:00
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TonyRich and who got that single point, was never going to be Tim the Dim. No way AVB would have not got more points from the top four.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 10:24:00
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IY- whilst I think the timing of AVB's departure was poor and he should have been backed properly his appointment was a gamble that ultimately failed ...he had never managed a transfer window nor integrated players into a team, his experience of managing up was poor with Chelsea being a failure that also had the media against him....we really need a manager now that ticks all the boxes...Tim - well that was a brain fart from Levy...and why oh why didn't someone tell Tim he was interim....
shedboy2
08/05/2014 10:33:00
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ItalianYiddo - exactly. That was actually one of our better performances under AVB, although it was only really for the first half. AVB would not have got many more points, but we wouldn't have been so slaughtered. At the end of the day, 4th place is at least 76 points this year, and probably 79! Given our inferior goal difference, that would require 80 points to get 4th - in simple terms. But if you look deeper and realise that we gave Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City 6 points each, and took none for ourselves. That is the difference. Matches vs top 4 are key.
TonyRich
08/05/2014 10:38:00
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Tony .... I agree. To improve on 6th, we will need to maintain our record against lower clubs and improve our record against higher clubs. It all depends on what the expectations are next season. If we expect top four, (I don’t), we will need to average 2 points a game. We will also need to improve our goal difference which would require a massive overhaul imo. If we see success as staying 6th or taking 5th, with a run in the cups, (I do), then we would be allowing the manager (?) the time he will need to progress the club. Of course there will be 19 other clubs with their own ideas!
Geofspurs
08/05/2014 10:42:00
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shed, AVB was never my first choice and a gamble, agreed, what I don't agree with is the failure, how can anyone possibly class it a failure at that stage of the season, this time of the season it would have been the right time. Scenario one, brilliant, we are looking like a team, we are going to the wire for 4th, we got to a semifinal/final, lets look forward to next season. Scenario two, we are to going finish 6th or 7th, look disjointed as a team and poor cups run, thanks for your efforts Andre but bye bye.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 10:45:00
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to improve on 6th we need to be better than 15 other clubs...points totals are meaningless apart from deciding league position in 1 season only...where the points come from - lower teams, teams in the top is almost immaterial..I say almost as it stands to reason if you take points from teams aiming at top4 you greatly reduce the distance between them and you....but without taking points from the other clubs it's futile...so get a good competitive team together who play a system and have a plan b....keep the players confident, happy and trying and the fans will respond...simple isn't it...
shedboy2
08/05/2014 10:48:00
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We are as a club, likely heading head first into yet another disasterous manager appointment. We are told that Pochittino is Levy's favored candidate, why? His career stats are poor to say the least. He has managed at Espanyol, P161 W53 L70, his win stats were 33%, and his loss stats 43%. He then came to Southampton P59 W23 L19, his win stats are 39%, and his loss stats are 32%. Giving him career stats of W 35% and L 43%, hardly a glowing reference for the managers job at Spurs. If one extrapulates a PL season based on these stats it would be P38, W13, D9, L16 giving a points total of 48. Compare this to De Boer's career at Ajax P172, W103, L33, equating to career stats of Win 60%, L 19%. This would represent a PL season of P38 W23 D8 L7 = 77 points. Then we have Martinez's career stats of P345 W138 L114, his win% figures are cruelly skewed by his 176 games at "no hopers" Wigan, who he kept in the PL against all the odds (W 29% L44%). This figure is rescued by his time at Swansea W50% L21% and at Everton W56% L23%. His career stats however are W40%, and L33%, this would equate based purely on these stats to a PL season as follows P38 W15,D11,L12,=56 points. Before somebody says that win stats can be interpreted in several ways, I would agree, and they are only one factor in the measure of a successful manager, but they can be used, providing they are measured over a representative period (not Sherwood's half a season), they are the only objective measure to compare candidate A and candidate B. This measure indicates that Pochittino is not a viable candidate for the job, compared to the other 2. If he gets this job, I will predict that if his expected, and predicted, performance becomes reality, we will be here this time next season, looking for the next candidate. For Christ's sake Levy, forget the few quid it will cost, and go and get De Boer. Yes he is a one club man, yes he has no PL experience, but his stats can afford to deteriorate by 10%, and he will still be the best candidate.
Frank
08/05/2014 10:50:00
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I cannot say I'll be sorry to see TS go. He may, oneday, make a decent manager. He has passion and heart but, unfortunately, he doesn't have style. No coaching badge, no thinking before opening his mouth and little idea of how to create a "TEAM" ethos. AVB had to go but not mid-season. He should of stayed till the end and seen it through. I do believe it was his choice to walk and not Levy's. COYS Now not only do we have the "who should buy" players but also Manager too.
longtimespur
08/05/2014 10:51:00
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TonyRich, with the right tactics a win against Arsenal, a point against City were achievable, I would have expected losses against Chelsea and Liverpool but with the quality of our players not unthinkable to get something.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 10:52:00
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longtimespur, AVB decided to walk because Levy made untenable for him to coach with dignity. Stay out of team affairs, let the coach do the coaching.
ItalianYiddo
08/05/2014 10:56:00
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Before we get carried away with Sherwood's stats, he has P27, W13, D4, L10, this gives W48%, L37%, so over a full Pl season this would represent P38 W18 D6 L14 = 60 points, a very long way from the top 5, so his figures are not that amazing after all.
Frank
08/05/2014 10:58:00
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We keep getting the managerial appointments wrong, but we cannot stay with a manager who is obviously failing and we are near or in the case of Ramos actually in the relegation zone. Also regarding top four do you seriously think we are going to get there with the current strikers and full backs whoever the manager is. Transfer business must reflect the needs of the team not just be an investment opportunity.
cynicspur
08/05/2014 11:05:00
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If I thought he was bright enough, and devious enough, which I don't, I could see Sherwood as having an agenda for our gradual deterioration in our league form, poor tactics, dubious team selection, vilification of good players, and dodgy interviews, to make the job of any incoming manager as difficult as possible next season, when he has disappeared to pastures new. It will artificially big him up, in the eyes of the Sherwood disciples.
Frank
08/05/2014 11:07:00
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totally agree with you Frank, but feel Levy we go for the wrong option as usual.
topspur53
08/05/2014 11:10:00
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For those going to King's testimonial, London Evening Standard are reporting that Sherwood has been invited to play at King's testimonial but is yet to give an answer. I bet Sandro would love to play against Sherwood :)
Kong
08/05/2014 11:12:00
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is Pochittino going to inspire our players.? NO!
topspur53
08/05/2014 11:13:00
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Longtimespur, I agree with your last post. Sherwood needs a spell at a lower league club away from the spotlight, and the media circus that is the PL. He could then 1)get his badges, 2) Learn his trade as a manager/coach, 3) Hopefully gain some maturity, learn how to deal with, and treat people properly, and 4) Gain a reputation for his achievements as a manager, rather than his rantings, ego maniac claims, and the public vilification of his fans, and players, 5) If he does these things, he may one day return to the big time, and enjoy some success as a manager.
Frank
08/05/2014 11:16:00
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I 'll 2nd your Pocehttino post Frank, this guy will be an absolute disaster if he comes to us. The guy has done "OK" at the 2 clubs he's managed hardly excelled at any point.
coys1717
08/05/2014 11:25:00
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Unfortunately it's a great article and pretty much sums up our season perfectly. Watching man city yesterday and hearing the commentator going on about how they are about to win 2 leagues in 3 years when before they haven't won anything for decades,, it reminded me of when my mates Dad's took us to Tottenham and it was either against City or Newcastle him saying to me 'yeah but they've never won anything!!' in regards to their noisy fans ... Very soon we will be that club, whole generations won't have seen us lift a single decent trophy. You can't keep going back to the 60's or even 1991 to find success (Bradford nearly won the carling cup, winning that doesn't count)...

Right now the calls are for 'Sherwood Out' but if Levy gets this appointment wrong, doesn't invest properly it will be "ENIC Out".. He has got one more appointment before WHL turns, no cheapskate Sherwood, foriegn version pochettino or even project FdB... we need a quality proven manager, Mancini, Benitez or LvG equivalent... Save your job Daniel.
T.H.F.Chris
08/05/2014 11:28:00
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Looks like the rope is already out for Pocehttino from the great spurs fans on here
pjcoys1883
08/05/2014 11:34:00
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Frank-I think you are being a bit too harsh on Pochettino!Managing Espanyol and Southampton,there is no way that you can win half of your games and boast your win percentage.I believe Rodgers would still be managing Swansea to mid table had he stayed with them.He played good football with Swansea so Liverpool got him.Took him a season but he is managing them well,isn't he?
SilwalYid
08/05/2014 11:34:00
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Excellent article. A total shambles of a season, to put it simply. Unfortunately, it does not matter who we get in unless Levy leave the manager to do his job for a couple of years at least.
Madaboutspurs
08/05/2014 11:36:00
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Frank...Sherwood does not need a hidden agenda to make it hard for the incoming manager. He is doing a marvellous job at playing the wrecking ball, yet he believes he is doing just grand. Latest example seeking praise for moving Rose back to LB. sssSSSHHHH! Timmy!.
cider spurs
08/05/2014 11:37:00
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frank-the names that are being touted around by and large r uninspiring,why not approach rafas people and see what they say?
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/05/2014 11:38:00
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Ancelotti, Benitez, Martinez, Mancini, Poyet, De Boer, Pochettino, Laudrup, my revised long list in that order.
pjcoys1883
08/05/2014 11:40:00
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Pele - I'm pi$$ed off that Sandro is not in the Brazil squad, but even that isn't Sherwood's fault, let alone Levy's, who, for some reason, you point the finger at? Sandro is not in the Brazil team because he's missed $hit loads of the season due to injury, whilst the competitors for his spot have been playing consistently and scoring. Seriously, you've got a genuine problem upstairs. Had Sandro not been injured so much, he'd likely be in the squad. By the way, you are aware that he hasn't been selected to play for Brazil since November 16th 2012, aren't you? Yet another FACT that $hits all over your baseless & downright demented standpoint, due to the fact that AVB was very much still our manager on November 16th 2012. So who you going to point the finger at now? God forbid it may actually be in the right direction, ie the player or his international manager.
coopsieyid
08/05/2014 11:46:00
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pjcoys-what about leanardo jardin.i know ive never heard of him either
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/05/2014 11:46:00
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Cider, i find it hard to see why praising a young player publicly as Sherwood did for Rose should be criticised, i think it's just unfair, Rose is not the best left back in the prem by far, we needed a new one last summer but the club over looked this, not sherwood and not AVB for that matter one assumes, but he is about all we had this season for long spells. Fryers got more game time under Sherwood but i do remember many on her saying Fryers was pants on the evidence of a couple of substitute appearances early doors. To me he looked and looks like a very good prospect given game time, which is what Sherwood did. This is turning into a bit of a klu klux klan event for sherwood on here.
pjcoys1883
08/05/2014 11:50:00
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PJ, luckily for you then that Sherwood's days are numbered, you will then have to defend the new guy.
Kong
08/05/2014 11:52:00
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Mix - I had that Sandro tweet about 50 times this morning. At first I thought "Fella you really shouldn't be ding that".. But then I thought, "screw it, he's just speaking on behalf of the people who have supported him through thick & thin whilst he's been at our club" I can actually admire that, even if it is ill advised. People will no doubt now question if I had the same view when Ade & BAE were putting their pics on twitter, and I'd have to say "No". Double standards? Maybe, but one of those players has given nothing short of 100% when he's played for our club, whilst the other has simply bothered when it suits him. Respect is earned, not axcquired because you earn more than everyone else, undeservedly.

coopsieyid
08/05/2014 11:53:00
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If it's Poch, I'll support him, same as the rest, I gave them a chance. Poch however does not inspire me. Yes he has Southampton playing well, but let's not kid ourselves here, they are 11 points adrift of us.

Some will argue we have the deeper squad, yep!, but how many of our team made the team of the season?, Lallana, Shaw, Rodriguez, all being raved about. 2 making team of the season. Have we got these players to play the brand of football he does?, can he improve our current players?.
cider spurs
08/05/2014 11:53:00
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Same old debate. If you can praise Rose after crap performances, can this not be afforded to the rest of the team?.
cider spurs
08/05/2014 11:56:00
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Well what a mess we are in. I think the problem is a lot bigger than we all think. Going by Sandro’s comments this morning I think it’s safe to say TS has lost the majority of the dressing room. Yes, any player can come out and have a pop at the manager etc BUT he is a fan favourite, and a very important player for the team. It also pretty much confirms that TS will be gone as surely he wouldn’t come out and say that if he wasn’t sure. It’s all very well for Kane & Ade to come out and say TS is loved etc but that’s only because he has brought them in from the cold, which has also been at detriment to the balance of the squad as a whole I think

Im so annoyed at how we have handled the whole situation. Every ex player, pundit etc is saying how great LVG will be…..well why the F didn’t we snap him up in Jan. Now it looks like we are turning away from FDB to go for Pochettino. What a Joke. Pochettino would (hopefully not will) be a disaster. He had a good start to the season then NOTHING. I am genuinely worried that we will end up with him because he’s cheaper and will work on a shoe string budget, same old same old. If things don’t change soon then im giving up on this lot, at least until the board sod off and someone with an actual plan and ambition step in. We are the laughing stock of football at the moment and its actually embarrassing to be a supporter of THFC. Players wanting to leave, players actually leaving, a string of inexperienced low budget managers hired then fired. The 5-0 thrashings, the 0-0 draws. Im sorry but it’s very hard to be positive at the moment.
hudderspur
08/05/2014 11:58:00
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Mix - Cheers for the 'heads up' re not speaking about our manager like I did. I'll show him the same sort of respect and class, as he has shown everyone else not called Nabil, Aaron, Emanuel, Hugo or Christian. I just wish, like him, I had the national press to abuse him with, and proclaim him as not good enough to be anything to do with our squad. COYS FOTS
coopsieyid
08/05/2014 11:58:00
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I remember somebody saying that if we did not finish 4th this season then we had not improved. Looks maybe like 6th, digressed, who's running the show, who manages the club. Surely has to take some of the blame?. Klu Klux Klan event?, no, just opinions on the basis of Sherwood's management tenure, how he has faired and whether we consider him to be the man to remedy the digression.
cider spurs
08/05/2014 12:01:00
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