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Tim Out? (Updated to Out!)

If we believe some reports in the media, Tim Sherwood could be sacked today.

Of course this could once again be rubbish and Levy might for all we know, might be very happy to see Tim carry on, but that seems less and less likely with every day that passes. I imagine that Sherwood himself will want to know his position quickly, as there are plenty of potential vacancies he might want to be considered for, such as WBA, Norwich and Brighton. Saying that, would be be shocked for levy to sit tight in the hope that he can gain some compensation from a suitor, despite knowing he wants to replace Tim anyway.

Though I like Sherwood and feel he has done a very decent job in very difficult circumstances, I feel that Levy will be looking to take the easy, and who knows the best option in replacing an unpopular manager for one that will excite the fans and hopefully appease the dressing room. If the pressure is on Sherwood and Levy now, what would happen if we start next season slowly? At that point, it will also be much harder and no doubt expensive to recruit a top quality manager and Levy really can`t afford another compromise and ultimate failure.

With the season over and Ledley King having a great send off, it is believed that Sherwood and Levy will have a little chat and I`m sure a frank exchange will take place. Though Sherwood might have perhaps over emphasised issues in pre and post match comments, I actually think he was spot on in the vast majority of his words and for that he should have been applauded instead of being crucified by so many. I can imagine if a new and big named man had replaced AVB and said the same things, we would have all claimed he was right and blamed the players, but the reality is that too many people don`t like Tim.

Whether we will quickly see Pochettino get the nod and to be fair he has handled the speculation very well, and does seem ready to walk regardless, as his position hasn`t seemed quite so certain since the departure of Nicola Cortese in January. Will Frank De Boar finally decide the timing is right to leave the comfort of Ajax and test himself in a tougher league or will the much talked of love of all things English be a reason why Rafa Benitez leaves Napoli?

Though Levy has made some pretty big calls in hiring and firing managers, could this one be the one that puts most pressure on his own position? Though the likes of Harry Redknapp had done well, there were reasons for the parting of the ways. This time, you feel that Levy took and punt on backing Sherwood and to remove him after five months, is a call that for me will define his time as Chairman at Tottenham Hotspur...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday May 13 2014

Time: 10:00AM

Your Comments

Yes I heard yesterday that he will be sacked in the nxt 48hrs......Hope we appoint FDB this week.
Ossie
today we should find out whether he goes or stays,i think its closer than a lot of people are making out
tarkan mardinCOYS
i am hearing 11.00gmt
tarkan mardinCOYS
Rumours have already starting to circulate on twitter claiming Sherwood has been sacked. A decision needs to be made and announced soon of either Sherwood is staying or going so we can move on.
Kong
twitterati is saying to be sacked in the next hour.just hope tim is told before everybody else knows,show a bit of class tottenham
tarkan mardinCOYS
TS will surely be visiting Levy’s office very soon, but will it be to get the sack, or to get his wish .... a 10 year contract!!
Geofspurs
Tarkan, it was leaked a month ago that Tim was leaving. Sherwood must know what is going on.
Kong
Yeah im hearing it’s an 11am meeting. Whether or not it’s the final or deceive meeting is still unknown. Whatever the outcome TS has been harshly treated by fans and the club (myself included) and I do think he has taken the brunt of everyone’s frustrations. If he does go I am just praying it’s not pochettino. I don’t care if people say im writing him off before he start but there is good reason to do so. He’s achieved bugger all. Im very concerned that when you consider how things usually leak out of THFC the only names in contention at the moment are FDB & Pochettino. Considering what happened with us and FDB last week that only leaves Pochettino on the table. I will be sick as a dog if we end up with Him. Honestly would prefer to keep TS.
hudderspur
Unfortunately Levy has no class! Talk of Pochetino I find underwhelming and would Rafa really want to work with Levy having fallen out with the the then cowboys who owned Liverpool over lack of investment...maybe he would think Levy is a cowboy with a white hat? For me I hope it is De Boer (note the spelling Ox, although I like yours if he makes a pig's ear of things) and another project of hopefully much shorter duration than AVB's. One of the pundits talking about Pellegrini and City's inability to win away at the start of the season made the point that foreign managers as well as players need time to adjust to the Premier League, so if it is FDB time will be needed but I would expect tangible improvements in the second half of nest season. FDB is young enough to build a dynasty if he is given time and some money. Rafa may be a safer choice due to his previous EPL experience and success but he doesn't seem to last very long. Anyway I doubt we will hear anything definite from Levy for several weeks as he screws around looking for a deal, unless of course one has been done already....I can dream.
Harry-Kari
hudderspur, agree with your last sentence.
Harry-Kari
Levy can we have a settled club for next season and beyond and please bring in a top coach who knows how to get the best out of the players we have? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
wicked post hudderspur,i concur with everything you have said
tarkan mardinCOYS
Nice words Ox but let's be honest here. There is a clear majority percentage of THFC supporters who FIRST and foremost think his abilities are not up to championship level, secondly he has no real qualification, thirdly he has been proven to be a problem and a direct influence in previous backstabbing incidents and Ill bet my house he had a direct role in the AVB case. He came in with an arrogance level far beyond his absent CV and a pathetic undertone of "yes I'm the man".... He proved what all of us knew before he even started and he completely cocked up nearly every on camera interview he ever made! Last night at the Kings testimonial Dim was boooooooed and justifiably so! A sad affair when one of our legends has to see that at his own testimonial but secretly I bet even the King himself was happy was chuckling... Dimout!
Mix26
My hat is in the Rafa camp, then FDB, then about 10-12 others, then Pochetino.
coys1717
If the choice is between Mopo and Tim...then kiss goodbye to the aspiration of joining the big clubs....one is making mistake after mistake and the other, well less than exciting but seems competent, is that enough?
shedboy2
mix-i heard that he was booed by a section yesterday,absolutely disgracefull behaviour
tarkan mardinCOYS
Good point Ox. Whilst frustrations are directed at Sherwood, Levy once more is excluded somewhat from the firing line. It really is time to give him both barrels the same as Sherwood received if he get's this next appointment wrong or continues with twitchy finger syndrome.

Whilst Tim wanted the role, and to be fair, if we judge him on results alone (top 4, W.ham aside) he has been steady, it is Levy's incompetence that sees us forever directing our displeasure at the manager. Give us the right manager Levy, this is your remit, and one that you alone should now be held totally responsible for from a vocal fan base as opposed to the manager all the time. Far too often Levy has removed himself from blame, time to give him a rough ride if we fail once more.
cider spurs
coys1717- similar view from me....it depends on what level of investment we can make though if we don't have a lot of £ (and evidence suggests we don't) then I'd go De Boer....
shedboy2
i have a feeling pochettino will not satisfy the fans
tarkan mardinCOYS
We'll probably go true to form, get rid of Sherwood today and then announce nothing about a new manager for a couple of weeks. Levy will hope getting rid of Sherwood will be enough to get people to renew their season tickets (deadline this Friday by the way) and then, once season ticket sales hit an acceptable level, he'll announce Pochettino as the new manager to general disgruntlement from the fans. By then it won't matter though because they'll have paid up their money for next season already! Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it goes along these lines.
SpuriousLife
Shedboy-I think we will have a bit of cash, our squad needs trimming and refining, dont think Pocehtino is going to be able to maintain Southampton's league finishes after he looses Lallana and Shaw and maybe Rodriguez. I'd rather see Pulis come in and take a crack over Pocehnitono, seems like ANOTHER completely unnecessary gable.
coys1717
llalana to the bindippers,shaw to manure,lovren to arsenal,i predicted a cull at southampton a while back.no doubt the job appeals to mopo
tarkan mardinCOYS
tarkan whilst I found it very inappropriate and pretty embarrassing to say the least, but I cant help thinking our supporters have to drop to that level to make their feelings known about him.
Mix26
very cynical SpuriousLife,but probably true
tarkan mardinCOYS
someone outside wht has texted me sherwood and ferdinand seen driving into the ground at 11.08
tarkan mardinCOYS
spurs did invent the concept of permanent transition so i heard
SpursWho
coys1717- you'd think we would have some cash having made about 40m profit on transfers in the past few years whilst not spending any of the revenue we generated in that time on new transfers....but there's the rub..why? why when CL was staring us in the face we couldn't buy better than Saha and nelson, we couldn't buy a LB last year etc...seems the stadium is taking our resources away from the 1st team...hopefully we have saved some of the TV money!
shedboy2
whl not wht
tarkan mardinCOYS
Spurious – Sad but true. I think that is exactly how it will go down. Sherwood “relieved” of his duties. Then radio silence for the next few weeks. The problem is there is nothing we can do about it until people simply stop renewing their ticket. Like I’ve said before, the only way to reach Lewis and the rest of the board is through there wallet. I can’t wait for TS to come out and tell it like it is at spurs, what really goes on behind the scenes. I don’t think it will be pretty.
hudderspur
hudderspur- TS- won't be saying anything..like AVb and even old Arry...he will be bound by a settlement agreement..
shedboy2
I'm awaiting the news in anticipation. Brighton would be a good job for Tim, might have some legs for him there. I'll take anyone to be honest, and support them as long as we don't get repeats of this season! I'm Gunning for FDB, then Benitez.
I'll take Poch to be honest. I think he got his young stars to shine for him amongst a shallow and mediocre squad in general. The 4 or 5 that are being touted for big money moves, really played lovely football under his guidance and motivational skills. He definitely raised their profiles and price tags. the rest of the squad are ordinary so he did a good job getting the team to where they are, especially with the leadership turmoil that happened earlier in the season. He stuck by his guns, and stayed faithful to his team and fans.
I wonder what he could do with our squad, the depth and quality that is lurking within it. He would be the right man to get Lamella going. He is good with younger players, of which we have many (I think due to us not likely to be buying many more during the stadium build - hence the number of youngsters brought in). He will need to shore up his defensive tactics, but then, he didn't really have any quality in his southampton side's back line.
MoPo could be good for us, not the Elite appointment I am praying for (ala Martinez, Ancelloti, AVB) but not the worst option out there (Keeping Tim, Moyes, Pulis etc). Prob third on my list.
Dublin Hotspur
I feel Tim will be leaving us for pastures New. I had the pleasure of Meeting Tim quite often outside Swindon whilst he was watching the boys play and the impression I got was he loved being the Technical Director of youth. Can he go back to this position after running the first team? personally i think not. What I do feel is that the 18 month contract was essentially a 6 month stop gap to help out Levy in selecting a replacement and the 1 year being a "Thank you for your services" golden handshake. I have gone on record loads of times saying I will support whoever Levy selects. I'd like to see FDB be part of the "project" however with AVB he was part also - a project is time driven so feel we shall more than likely see Benitez at the lane soon....who knows? COYS!!!
YT_Boy
BREAKING NEWS-david moyes seen entering whl
tarkan mardinCOYS
Adding to my comment would hope we dont see Poncetti (Spelling?) as the language barrier could be an issue - Benitez is fluent in Several Languages and would really bring out the best in most of our young team - Hmmmm I'm talking myself into Benitez!
YT_Boy
Tarkan - are you kidding me?
YT_Boy
Tarkan, did your mate text you that as well? He must be a comedian.
Kong
kong-the bit about tim driving in is true just joking about david moyes
tarkan mardinCOYS
Hudderspur - I've made a promise to myself that I will not renew my season ticket until the manager situation is resolved. The deadline is this Friday so we don't have long. If Sherwood stays I won't be renewing. If Sherwood goes but we don't announce our next manager before Friday I will still not renew. This time Levy has to make a decision and have it in place before Friday or else I will no longer be a season ticket holder. No doubt many will say I'm cutting my nose off to spite my face but I've had enough of being strung along by a chairman who increasingly makes me feel like a walking wallet and nothing else.
SpuriousLife
Tarkan, if the meeting was meant to be at 11 then Sherwood was late :).
Kong
haha kong,i suppose you would be right
tarkan mardinCOYS
Disagree agree with the suggestion that removing Tim after 5 months would put Levy under pressure. If Tim was viewed as temporary all the long, then isn't a case of it working out as planned...? AVB had to be removed - 1st season had the points, goals, but not the entertainment, 2nd season lost the points and goals also... Hiring manager midseason was what Spurs were doing wrong in the 90s... A sequence of mediocre managers due to rushing into replacements. Plus those appointments were often requiring compensation to be paid to the new guy's old club. Then you pay him off when you sack him too. At least with Tim, there was no compensation, presumably a low salary and merely a year to pay off - due to his short-term contract. Levy wanted Tim to deputise, but Tim demanded a proper contract, so this was the only way to make it happen. In the meantime, Levy had ample time to target a successor. Given that 4th place was 79 points, 4th place was beyond us after such a poor start to the season. May as well pad the season out with Tim and then (for once) get the right guy in.... We can only hope. Whilst Tim made some odd decisions, said some odd things, and at times Spurs were poor with his tactics, the fact is that he matched a 72 point season rate. So he did not bring us down. But time to get the right guy. If Tim showed more willingness to accept when wrong, and ability to learn, I would have been ok for him to stay on. But Chadli in centre with Sandro/Capoue on bench, and Siggy left is just not going to progress us.
TonyRich
Kong, thats an early start for Tim. I believe he wasnt around Enfield much before 9 at all.
Dublin Hotspur
Disagree agree...?
TonyRich
Enic have continued in the Alan Sugar tradition of inept managerial appointments. The problem is not the dismissals, they were almost all justified, but that they should never have been appointed in the first place.It takes a very experienced manager to cope with Tottenham. Redknapp was not the full package but he was the closest we have come to getting it right. We need somebody like Benitez with a real thick skin.Pochettino is nowhere near experienced enough and lost twice to Tim, a manager some on here do not rate
cynicspur
If the alternative is Pochettino then I say, why not Tim? I don't want a guy at Spurs that fans will call MoPo! MoFo anyone, when we loose? MoFo out!
MAN ON!
Benitez boring football.De Boer-what Dutch manager has done well in England?Pochetinno -8th with small squad with a smattering of good but not great players, he's young,progressive,beautiful passing football like Gooners!Uncontroversial, so won't fall out with Levy.This man could build a dynasty based on young players with attacking football.It's a no brainer,he's the stand-out candidate.
Greavesaboveall
Not defending Poch but Spurs are a better team and have a much larger squad. Even some have said on VS they could manage Spurs easily and win games. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
TonyRich - I concur completely. This is Levy we are talking about. We all know he has usually already done the deal way before anyone else generally knows about it. TS isn't stupid. He knows THFC too well to know that Levy would stick with him with absolutely no Experience. if you are director of youth and DL asked you to hold the fort knowing you couldn't return to your previous role, wouldn't you want a bit of a payout when you're replaced at the end of the season? My bet is Tim will go to Brighton and they'll become a feeder for us and somewhere else we can send players to develop. COYS - ILIT - TTID
YT_Boy
I think too many are worried about Pochettino has failed to achieve. At the end of the day he has done extraordinarily good with Southampton and taken them further than they ever will have done. In my mind all we need is someone with a football philosophy who will have respect of players. It's that simple. Look how he's got Southampton playing. Imagine what he could do with our higher level of player. I would prefer FDB but believe you me I would be very happy with Pochettino. Maybe we could get the odd Southampton player as well...I'd have about six of their English lads no joke
BrooksySpurs
Rodgers hadn't won anything when he went to liverpool,but Swansea played the same way as Saints and finished in a similar position.Pochetinno is the next Rodgers if we lose out again, I'm going off the end of Brighton Pier!
Greavesaboveall
Greavesaboveall grab me a rock while you're there Yum yum! COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Our recent managers are being seen as inept. My simple question is why? Is Levy making bad decisions or is it the supporters, in their lack of support, that's putting the pressure on DL to fire them before they've had a fair chance to succeed? We're down on our managers almost before they walk in the door. What chance do they have? Blame Levy for hiring them but is it really his fault for sacking a guy who the fans don't like, regardless of the football or the results? People are saying anyone will do as long as it's not Sherwood! Really?
MAN ON!
Tarkan ... I have a feeling nobody will satisfy the fans.
Geofspurs
You maybe right Geof. I just hope the new manager has the experience to deal with the high expectations of the board and fans. The manager of Spurs must play a brand of football that will satisfy the most purist of fans and expect to win gloriously. Not asking much are we :) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Rodgers was on the verge of the sack in 2013 remember, plenty of articles around saying the fans wanted him out. How fickle they are now, praising his manager of the year award. Just goes to show it sometimes takes some patience.
mattspurs1982
Spurious ... Sorry, but I think it’s a bit extreme to give up your season ticket. I imagine you got the ticket because you have a love of football generally and THFC specifically. Why can’t you continue to enjoy it. I understand your frustration, which we all feel, but there are no guarantees of success, or even progress, in football. Personally, I deal with it by going back to basics, football and THFC, and the emotional roller-coaster ride that is a football club’s journey. Keep your ticket, Mate, the club needs supporters like you. :-)
Geofspurs
Greaves – you just can’t compare Rodgers and Pochettino. Rodgers has worked under some of the best managers in the world, had a bumpy start with Liverpool but was given time and resources to put it right. He wouldn’t be given any of that at THFC. In fact he even came out and said he dodged a bullet. Pochettino would need time to adapt to the “spurs way” and because he hasn’t yet got a reputation to fall back on would fail just like the last 10 managers before him. Might not be his faulty but??

Spurious, I agree with you TBH. If I had a season ticket I certainly wouldn’t be renewing with the current situation at spurs. Enough is enough and its time DL listed to the fans.
hudderspur
It always takes patience... Ask the 'rookie' Keith Burkinshaw! Awful football followed by relegation in his first season. Enough said...
MAN ON!
greaves-you are articulating the case or mopo very well,he could well be our brendan rodgers but so can tim sherwood
tarkan mardinCOYS
cynic .... I agree that, in recent times, Harry was the closest to getting it right. But, the players he had then were different. How would AVB or TS have done with the players Harry had; and how would Harry have done with the players AVB and TS had? It’s not possible to compare managers because of all the other factors that influence the outcomes.
Geofspurs
Is it my imagination or is there an ‘e’ missing from the end of the first word of this article title?!
Geofspurs
It is official
Kong
Sherwood has left
Kong
Official Statement - We appointed Tim mid-season as someone who knew both the players and the Club. “We agreed an 18-month contract with a break clause at the end of the season and we have now exercised that option. “Since appointing Tim as Assistant First Team Coach in 2008 and then as Technical Co-ordinator in 2010 and Head of Football Development in 2012, we have been supportive of him during football management changes throughout that period. On behalf of the Club, I should like to state our thanks for all his efforts during his years with us. We wish him great success in his managerial career. “Moving forward, now the season is over, we shall embark on the process of finding a new Head Coach. We have a talented squad and exciting young players coming through. We need to build on this season, develop our potential and inspire the kind of performances that we associate with our great Club."
Kong
my info was correct
tarkan mardinCOYS
GONE GONE GONE
tarkan mardinCOYS
well all those haters got their way
tarkan mardinCOYS
Tim Sherwood has departed.
Airwave
Here we go...itk meltdown! COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Thnak you Mr Levy - a few weeks late - done .... now go and get the proper man ... hopefully FdB!!!
Highgatespur
James1, very true lol
Kong
More gushing coming our way, I fear......... Good luck Mr Sherwood and thank you for your efforts. See you next year in the FA cup final, with whichever club it is you're leading out.... ;-)
MAN ON!
I'm just glad all the talk and speculation can end but, like the man said, be careful what you ask for!
Geofspurs
FDB for Spurs! He better have us playing like Barca immediately or I'll not be renewing my Oyster card and therefore I won't be getting on the tube to WHL! FDB IN! FDB OUT!
MAN ON!
I've only gone and done it!. You know, worked out where we are going wrong with the manger appointments. We've seen "AVB Out" articles, now "Tim Out."

Whist I have no problem with anyone's sexuality, maybe we should move away from the homosexual manager appointment and seek a hetrosexual. Why do they only "Out" once being given the managers reins?. It's 2014, I've seen the little secret codes passing around the site. "I'm in the Tim camp" some say, yeah right, I get it now, more like "i'm into camp Tim." Why the secrecy?, I see where that salute stems from now, Village people...YMCA. Well done Tim, credit for finally coming out. Respect the Gilet!.
cider spurs
Highgatespur
DL" there was a 18 month agreement with a break clause at the end of 6 months - we have now exercised that clause."
So, the identification of the porkies teller rumbles on !!!! Tut tut
Highgatespur
Sherwood IN!. ;-)
cider spurs
Is George Graham free? Terry Neil? I think Tony Adams has a badge or two......
MAN ON!
It's official. He's gone. I feel a new dawn coming. Let's hope this time it's not another false one. COYS
ParkLane67
Geof, that was the case of wanting of the last man out - lessons have been learnt ?... The only way is up - can't you see that in your future world ?!!!
Highgatespur
Ian Wright? He talks a lot!
MAN ON!
High ... I can’t see you but something’s telling me you’re wearing a huge grin atm!
Geofspurs
Cue the media telling all and sundry how poorly we have treated Tim and how fickle Spurs fans are.
cider spurs
Brilliant humour out of 'out' cider....
Highgatespur
Henry anyone? Great hand gestures!
MAN ON!
Everyone Levy has ever employed has eventually been stabbed in the back. Levy always has somebody else to blame. Lets see if the next man will be any different.
Kong
What a ***** Levy is,every time we have a reasonbly succesfull managerJol,Redknapp and now Sherwood out he goesand lets bring in some useless foreign twonk,Ramos,avb and the next one.Ye Gods how the bloke holds on to his job I dont know.So after 60 dd years of supporting Spurs I feel its time for me to call it a day.Well done Levy,well done Spurs.
spurgatso
Cider it's already started - on SSN - oh what a surprise!!!
Highgatespur
If De Boer was at Southampton and Pochettino was at Ajax I wonder who we would want.
Kong
Not a surprise. Oh well good luck Tim and thanks for the effort. so now we begin the search to find a new head coach Danny Boy........HOW ABOUT FINDING ONE BEFORE SACKING THE OLD ONE BELL END!!!
hudderspur
why dosnt franco baldini take the role.imo he got us in this mess,why dosnt he get us out of this mess
tarkan mardinCOYS
“We appointed Tim mid-season as someone who knew both the players and the Club." and that's why he selected Bentaleb ahead of the rest of the players he knew.
yiddyboy
spurgatso-preach on brother,preach on
tarkan mardinCOYS
Kong. This time around - what go around comes around... perhaps?
Highgatespur
MAN ... I had a boy scouts virginity badge until I lost it (coincidentally, it was at the same time I collected a girl guides virginity badge) ... does that qualify me for the job?!
Geofspurs
I've got a headache.... I was dreading this.. Pass the tissues and a Paracetamol please?
MAN ON!
Levy's toughest decision is what to do with the rest of the staff. I can see a case for Freund, Ferdinand, Parks and Ramsey getting the boot as well.
muttley
Lee Trend, I think Baldini is safe.
Kong
Oh and has anyone noticed how Levy has basically said we aren't signing anyone and will rely on the youth....hahahahaha you couldn't phucking make it up. I feel sorry for whoever takes over this black comedy. Levy = out out get the phuck out!
hudderspur
rafa b please
stephenspurs1210
Tarkan, why has Baldini got us into this mess? No one knows if AVB wanted those players or if he had the final say. Next season if the players perform who will get the credit, the new manager or Baldini.
Kong
My life is now officially on hold, until the next announcement........
MAN ON!
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9309898/tim-sherwood-sacked-by-tottenham-hotspur-sky-bet-make-mauricio-pochettino-favourite-to-replace-him
Critical_Spur
Tonyrich, AVB had to go you say. In December? In all competitions and 4 points off top 4? Are you Levy in disguise? Ridiculous statement.
ItalianYiddo
Geofspurs. You're in there....
MAN ON!
TS often didn't help himself & he'll need to learn this for his next job but the amount of negativity got ridiculous. People were outraged whatever he said including me which is bad.
Kong
Geof, guess what ? the headache's gone - in more ways than one - " joy to the Spurs, joy to the folks at the white hart lane, the fans of the Spurs here and everywhere ; Joy to the Spurs all around the world...."

What makes you say that Geof ? COYMS!!!!
Highgatespur
Isn't the dutch league a bit like scotland-small and dominated by 2 teams?Even McClaren did well there.Would you like him as well ,Hudders?
Greavesaboveall
Thanks for the hard work over the years Tim, looking forward to seeing some form of statement from you, obviously we all will have to avoid the press rubbish twisting words/questions every which way. Glad you got to finish off the season unlike AVB. I think the beginning of his career has stated fairly well as a PL manager, win percentage wise and the fact he was managing a huge club like Spurs can only be good for him. Changing managers all the time is not good but I am however very excited about the next appointment. Onwards and upwards. COYS.
SpursOne2
My bet has been Pochettino all along, not because he's the best candidate, not by far, he's the cheapest. Prove me wrong Daniel, go for what is best for Spurs not what is best for ENIC.
ItalianYiddo
I'll be spending most of today sharpening a whole range of specialist, backstabbing tools. Get your orders in guys and gals... They'll be selling like hot knives.
MAN ON!
Well, hudderspur - here's hoping he has done that .... even he can't repeat the mistake again.... and if he has who'd be the 'bell end' then ?
Highgatespur
Once again Levy has shown the way of running a club with great stability, once again Levy will appoint the right manager, once again Levy will deliver us major trophies, once again we are a laughing stock.
spurfect one
Man On, I think Levy might buy all of them.
Kong
Tim took over 5 points from CL spots and finished 10 points adrift.

I'm not sure Pocohontis or whatever his name is, is really the right guy for us. I'd prefer Levy to appoint himself as head coach and then fire himself around Christmas
yiddyboy
Rodgers learned under some quality managers. Tim do not. His ego now will not allow him to, which would be the right thing for him to do( no. 2 for a top manager). He ain't our new messiah tarkan.
spurious, tricky one. I would not renew in principle if Tim stayed, if it's not announced by Friday I could see why you would not renew. But I say hold off and keep it if you can! It will get better!
Dublin Hotspur
yiddyboy. and then dropped him out of sight once he got to know the others ?!!! LOL
Highgatespur
Shewood out, Sir Les in!
MAN ON!
pochettino 11/10.fdb 2/1.rafa 5/1.moyes 9/1
tarkan mardinCOYS
He's gone! Renew
Dublin Hotspur
How long will it be until the next manager is Levy's lamb to the slaughter for all on vital spurs?
spurfect one
MAN ON!..."Henry anyone? Great hand gestures!"

Love the thinking...Henry the Hoover should clean up!.
cider spurs
Kong I think TS has a good supply of them for his next job ... DL doesn't need any atm - read what was he said in the statement - keep t to the deal it seems while someone forgot to mention it .... can't blame Leby this time around but it is time for him to move sideways ....
Highgatespur
Highgate - Exactly!
Now we have a conundrum, as the clown is out but the circus is still in town
yiddyboy
One thing we all agree on-managing our club is a nightmare with our desire for 'beautiful football like Brazil or Barca ,to finish above Satan's covern up the road and to stop our chairman buying and selling players while holding holding a knife in one hand ready to plunge it into the manager's back when the season goes tits up yet again.
Greavesaboveall
Second thoughts I think I'll go out and celebrate. Then I'm putting in my application for a Palace season ticket. It's much more fun at Selhurst Park these days. Spurs supporters have forgotten how to enjoy themselves at WHL. Unless of course there's a bunch of beer-bellied ex-players on the pitch, stumbling about and falling over one other. ;-)
MAN ON!
Highgate, Sherwood would not have made it public that there was a break out clause in his contract. Lets see what happens now.
Kong
SpursOne2 ... Managing Spurs has to look good on your resume. I hope this was a springboard for TS to enjoy managerial success in the future.
Geofspurs
At least my dilemma on renewing is over, could not bring myself to do it with the thought of Sherwood in charge. Relief, I might even light a fag even though I havent smoked for thirty years.
ItalianYiddo
Anyone know the fate of the other staff??
tottscotspur
Spurious - delighted just DELIGHTED - TS wals away with probably £1m pay off ... should any tears be shed ? Last night was brilliant and today ... I'm certain an appropriate man will be appointed.... FdB for me... For me condition for renewal has been made - in true foolish faith of a football fan... my belief has been restored ... only in hope we go forward!!!

Come on Spurious it will be a lot different being at WHL than following the games on stream (you know you will!!) .... we are going win the quadruple next year!!!! LOL!!! Come on you Spurs!!!!! Come on you Spurs!!! Tottenham!!! Tottenham !!!!! We are gonna do it different than we did last time .... LOL
Highgatespur
Oxfordspur, I cannot for a second imagine an experienced, respected manager doing or saying most of the things Sherwood did. A coach's job is to coach the players he has, not to criticize them in public, ostracize them and take no responsibility for what has occurred. All them, not me but look how wonderful my record is. I am the best Spurs PL manager ever. Cup games don't count. And Harry thought we'd never had it so good. He did make some great changes in game that clearly affected the game. Then again, when you bottle it so badly at the start, positive changes are far easier to make. This is a very good squad. Give the players a manager who suits the players and this group will excel. COYS
peterballb
Oxford you must now be busy compiling a list of names you can then put the word OUT, after. ;-)
MAN ON!
I thought I'd got rid of Tim,now they say he's coming to my home town Brighton.That's it then, I'm off to the end of the pier now!
Greavesaboveall
Whoever comes in as manager I want to be the first to go on record as stating 'I don't like him, never did, never will, and want him OUT NOW! You can quote me on that next Christmas!
Geofspurs
Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker 24m Tim Sherwood has been sacked by Spurs. He's opinionated, bombastic and refreshingly different. Hope to see him in charge of a PL club soon.
tarkan mardinCOYS
spurfect one. We are less of a laughing stock now than we were a day ago...
Highgatespur
ItalianYiddo. Have a cigar instead. Does AVB have a get out clause in his contract? He might be what we're looking for.
MAN ON!
Oh happy days!!! There's never a good time to fire a manager but Dim was fired because he is sheit! He proved nothing other than that and if some other club in the PL is stupid enough to hire him then good luck to them but to Dim I hope you do get another 'managerial' role and epically cock it up just so I can laugh at you without feeling like it's my team thats the joke....
Mix26
But I’m Tottenham til I die!
Geofspurs
Rijkaard, Mancini, Ancelotti, Benitez, Martinez are my top 5. Going lower than this is accepting a lesser coach than AVB and, at that point, it may as well be Coyle. COYS
peterballb
muttley - I see freund and Parks staying on ... really depend s on the new boss...
Highgatespur
What's really funny is we are now happy but, we don't have a manager! If I were a fan of any other club, I'd be laughing at Spurs more so than I was yesterday.
MAN ON!
Highgate. How do u work that out?
spurfect one
spurfect one... Because he doesn't like the other two. Just doesn't like them. Good as reason as any I suppose.
MAN ON!
maybe we should go managerless for a season and see what happens
tarkan mardinCOYS
MAN ON what's really funny is we dont have any matches to play... and even if Dim was here and i could be wrong but what was his line " I've got nothing to do here next week"
Mix26
Geof, you might have qualified with those badges back in December (I'm sure TS wasn't in the scouts...) but not now - hopefully the lessons have been learnt.
Highgatespur
Bizarrely still feel flat. Delighted Tim is no longer a part of spurs. Maybe he will "out" himself finally as still being a Gooner!
still no plan, was hoping we had the manager tied down! Should have got LVG or FDB a month ago! What a ridiculous season! What a club! Here's to brighter horizons! Whoever is next at least won't be a rookie! You have my support. I will wait for the plan and see it out, but please tell us what it is!
Dublin Hotspur
Pochettino, DeBoer, Moyes have never shown they can win while playing in four competitions. They are not qualified. Spend the money, get in a manager who deserves 250M of talent to select from. COYS
peterballb
Glad he's finally gone......second best highlight of the season!!Muttley that decision will probably be down to the new manager, he might want to keep some.
Ossie
Mix26. True. Who's next on the firing line?
MAN ON!
FDB for me. But whoever it is, needs to be given a full backing from Levy, players and fans. He needs resources and time. Levy cannot get involved in football matters - apart from setting the budget and dealing with transfers - otherwise it will be the same old ***** just repeating itself. COYS!
rahn DMC
peterballb.. I agree.
MAN ON!
Bloody weather! GOD OUT!
MAN ON!
yiddyboy - yup - one thing at a time - focus on Levy to change now!
Highgatespur
Geofspur – Yes mate. Hard work never gets unnoticed and he has the opportunity to progress and find a club to continue. Spurs are a huge club especially to launch a managing career. Mixed feeling after yesterday, but the club seems to be making steps to ensure we improve head and keep in the right direction. Hopefully for him too. COYS.
SpursOne2
Cheers Tim, you’re welcome back at the lane anytime mate. COYS.
SpursOne2
Off topic... Good to hear all our 3 Begians are in the World Cup squad ... Soldado has missed out along with Isco!
Highgatespur
For the record, I'd just like to say that I never liked Tim. From his very first words, I loathed him. Dada, I think it was. Maybe Mama!
MAN ON!
Benitez is supposedly in London, Potchettino wants out and FDB isn't around at Ajax today.... All are joining.
Kong
Kong, so who was telling porkies ? That was my point - honesty? Yup let's focus on the future ... really don't mind anyone as long as experienced and successful track record!!!
Highgatespur
greavesaboveall - hold on ... Torquay might be he destination!!!
Highgatespur
Highgate, no one was telling porkies, no one was asked about any clauses in the contract. I am sure the next manager will have certain clauses in their contract. Now it is time for us fans to wait and see who Levy picks.
Kong
Loyalty is an old fashioned trait in football but wherever Tim goes, I'll be there for him. Don't be a stranger now.
MAN ON!
i can see it now,we go for frank de boer and end up with his identical twin ronald and ajax making us look like mugs
tarkan mardinCOYS
Pele10 will be disappointed. He wanted TS to sack Levy and ENIC.
Geofspurs
Tim will probably be the next West Brom manager.
Kong
lol God out! MAN ON whilst not taking Dims sacking too personally in all truth there was no way he could continue his role at Spurs. He was given the chance and failed in many supporters eyes and now finally in the Chairmans eyes. I've always given the manager backing up until I believe they are not on the same boat with THFC. With Harry I was gutted but it was the right decision, With AVB I was very annoyed and lost faith in Levy, wrong to part ways. With Dim there is a very clear positive in that he had such a short time to NOT be able to instil any of his unqualified systems and management.
Mix26
Don't blame GOD ... it was TS!
Geofspurs
Peter, I think De Boer has the right credentials if we are prepared to give him a full season to acclimatise and experiment with no divine intervention from above. Otherwise go for Mancini or Benitez, if and a big if they can be persuaded to come and work under Levy?
ItalianYiddo
How can anyone be so adamant that they don't want Tim anywhere near Spurs but, not care about who the next guy is? Strange...
MAN ON!
mix-why you keep insulting tim.ffs his gone now.
tarkan mardinCOYS
TS was seen at WHL today ... and he’s unemployed?!
Geofspurs
Two snippets of ITK. Pinch of salt, first one maybe stating the obvious when considering betting markets.

Pochettino off to Spurs.

Atletico are trying for Soldado for £20 million.

Don't shoot the messenger, your choice on beliefs.
cider spurs
Brilliant post peterballb starting 'Oxfordspur' - but interesting list of five... no FdB but Rijkaard ? No disagreeable ones on the list!
Highgatespur
Okay, I supported Tim. I believed in giving the guy a chance. Likewise the next guy. With there being a gaping hole right now in the managerial seat I can't accept that anyone else will do. I'll support whoever it is but please make it the best that's available. Everyone's a gamble though but, some are less of a punt than others.
MAN ON!
Rigkaard?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Woohoo. I can renew my bronze membership and get tickets for next season now. Don't care who it is now as our team must be better balanced and players playing in their correct positions.
CoysRus
Geof , a bit cynical with the post starting 'whoever' - totally unlike you .....
Highgatespur
The gob, Man on! that is his main problem, secondary minor problem, rubbish coach, most of us on here could have told the players to go and run around a bit. Can you think of one single game against a top six that we bossed?
ItalianYiddo
I do hope we keep Freund, and Ramsey as he is the main one dealing with the youngsters. Don't think Tim was on the training ground with the U21's as Ramsey did all the after match comments before he was involved with the first team.
CoysRus
My punt is FDB. I like the idea of someone fresh and capable rather than many of the other alternatives who are basically at the end of their time. We don't know who will bring us success though, until we see our Captain, holding a trophy high above his head and we're all bouncing around like a manic David Pleat! Up the Lilywhites and down with the rest!
MAN ON!
spurfect one to answer 'How do u work that out?', obviously, the club is TS less now!!!
Highgatespur
ItalianYiddo. No.
MAN ON!
what about harry redknapp if qpr dont go up?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Mancini, Benitez, FDB, Laudrup and... Bielsa?
taniban
tarkan mardinCOYS. Surely Harry will be taking over from the future World Cup failure, Mr Hodgson.
MAN ON!
MAN ON so long as that captain is not Dawson ;)
Mix26
Levy might go for Thomas Tuchel, he is out of a job currently and Levy likes the cheaper option.
Kong
Mix26.. Don't get me started.
MAN ON!
Don't tell Pele10 but some billionaire owners are willing to spend on their teams http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27387616
In-spurs-ational
ive always admired bielsa-their are names out their who would be in front of fdb/pochettino,but it seems we dont want to cast the web wide enough
tarkan mardinCOYS
Kong. I'll do it for nothing. I'll employ all Vital Spurs members as coaching staff, on a rolling, pay as you win basis. Matching gilets for all.
MAN ON!
They need a new carnt in scarnthorpe!

cider, as with the Pauli to Chelsea situation, if there is something in that, and athletico want Robbie, they obviously see what he has, that we haven't exploited! He's our player, we need to keep this talent! CL finalists and probable la liga winners want him, how crap can he be! We need to keep him and use him properly! Same applies to all the new boys, verts and lloris, and sandro.
Dublin Hotspur
Rijkaard?...He has not managed since Saudi last year. Has stated he has no intention of returning to management, instead, enjoying his time concentrating on other things.
cider spurs
So here we go....another Upheaval !!!.....another Foreign Coach / Manager. Mr Levy...bit of advice for you ....."YOU WILL NEED TO APPOINT SOMEONE WHO WILL COMMAND MAXIMUM RESPECT".......Personally, I would seek ARNOLD and SYLESTOR !!!!!!!!..LMAO
82spursdebut
...and for my next cunning stunt... (Levy's final, deathbed words)
MAN ON!
i think we should go for alex mcleish
tarkan mardinCOYS
Dublin, are you back home yet ? Think that new man will be announced around Monday probably - hopefully when Ajax come back from the Far East ... here's hoping!!! FFs Levy can't mess it up again....
Highgatespur
ARNOLD and SYLVESTOR.........alternatively..PHUCK if I know !!...lol
82spursdebut
Ossie - good one - what was the first highlight then ?
Highgatespur
whats dave "harry" bassett doing nowadays?
tarkan mardinCOYS
IY - nicely put - renewal in then ?
Highgatespur
I'm off to get me badges. Have a nice day......
MAN ON!
CoysRus - thanks, didn't know that - how long has he been at the club - didn't realise that TS had only been involved with the youth since 2012...
Highgatespur
Levy didn't mess up with Sherwood. We all new he was an interim, didn't we. He did the best he could. Next!
MAN ON!
*knew*
MAN ON!
Man On! once you get those badges, if you want a slightly more overweight, slower Michael Dawson like CB...look no further!!! Throwing this name out there, Murat Yakin?
King26
Premier League win% (criteria: over 10 PL matches) T Sherwood 59.1% A Villas-Boas 53.7% H Redknapp 49.3% M Jol 41.6% D Pleat 38.5% D Livermore 38.1% G Francis 36.1% G Hoddle 36% C Gross 33.3% G Graham 33% O Ardiles 29.6% J Ramos 28.6% J Santini 27.3%
tarkan mardinCOYS
we knew this weeks ago didnt we, never given a chance and playes didnt help either, best of luck TS and least you peed of a few ppl on here getting us into the EL, :D
123spurs
Man On, the gilet for all did it for me, you have recruited me for your Spurs project.
Kong
king26-i like marat yakin-their are 12-15 realistic names ahead of mopo/fdb
tarkan mardinCOYS
just hope it aint crapello, watching england was bad enough
123spurs
Not with Sherwood but messed up getting AVB in the first place!
Mixer yids
Well that's one problem resolved. I'd like to put on record my thanks to Sherwood for stepping in and holding the fort at a difficult time. If he'd done it with a bit more humility and class and a lorry-load less arrogance he might have maintained more support. Onwards and upwards (hopefully) now. It is quite striking that the people bemoaning Sherwood's removal the most are the media. They love his outspoken nature - it helps fill column inches and sell papers. It doesn't help our club though. Come on Levy don't let my season ticket renewal lapse!
SpuriousLife
so when utd get LVG and spend 100mil+ will they go above us if everton do well again could be another fight for 6th/7th. huge pressure on hte nxt manager, and hope it aint a guy who cant even speak english. who is out there, who is willing who can handle the pressure, will he be given time, does it matter who we get if he aint given time,
123spurs
Highgate, back this morning. Sorry never saw you guys, was with my old crew and we ended up staying in the Irish centre til the game! ( good place to park btw). Great night. Great end to a miserable season! First step of the future progress is done! I have faith in levy on this one! He knows he can't mess up and believe he is listening to the fans this time! Serious manager for a serious club. FDB for me, then Benitez then poch.( see my views above). Don't think he will go elite, and don't think they would go for us, so that's my 3.
Dublin Hotspur
123spurs -crapello is not on my list.tomorrow i will compile my list of 12-15 names who i think are gettable.something for you guys to look forward to
tarkan mardinCOYS
For me....Jurgen Klinnsmann or the current German coach, Joachim Low, after the world cup.
82spursdebut
Outsider >>> Tony Pulis.
82spursdebut
Peterbalb – your one of the few posters on here who I seem to agree with on the majority of issues (don’t know if that’s good or bad). I just don’t see the point in hiring someone with no top level experience. Like you say, we should have just kept AVB if that was the case. My realistic first choice would be Mancini. What would anyone think of Tata Martino? Very much doubt he will be at Barca next year? Joachim Loew after the WC (although its leaving it late IMO).
hudderspur
If rumours of Atletico wanting Soldado for £20m are true, that is a good deal for a 29 year old.
Kong
cheers tarken
123spurs
hudderspurs - I just had Mancini as number 3 on my preferred list that I emailed to a mate. I think he's a good price
King26
hudderspurs - I just had Mancini as number 3 on my preferred list that I emailed to a mate. I think he's a good price
King26
Now sack Baldini and give the job to De Boer.

Unlucky for Tim but think he was a dead man walking from the start. Would have liked him to get a different role in the club but good luck managing the next club.
Rapm
So the worst kept secret in football finally comes to fruition. What a surprise!!!!
Cleveland ARTSPURS
Here's to next season guys.. Let's hope it's a good one. The badges are going two for a pound, at the 99p store. I think they overcharged me!
MAN ON!
Personally I do believe it will be Poch if he is not happy with the new plans devised at Southampton. Add to this I'm expecting most of their top talent to be sold. Whether he would be enough to satisfy those players who may have become disgruntled?.
cider spurs
High ... It’s a reflection of the support our managers seem to get. Did you read it as serious?!
Geofspurs
cider spurs. I wouldn't be surprised. I'll be disappointed if it is Poch but not upset.
MAN ON!
Benitez and Mancini have PL experience and have won here, they are the best we can hope, Ancelotti would be fantastic but we have no chance. Lets's start winning things or get close to and then think about playing pretty football, priorities are in order.
ItalianYiddo
Hi guys, surely Levy can't make another mistake and appoint Pochetino (or however it's spelt?)? His English is no existent. FDB says he wants the job, let him have it! 4 titles in 4 years - yes Dutch league but the guy played at top level and know what it takes - look at how his teams play 'the FDB way'. The quotes he has already given us 'the hand of FDB' etc - he wants to play attacking style, has pedigree to attract top players and knows what he wants and how to achieve it - knows some of our players already - and has the respect. Remember the clip of Erikson being asked about Tim's future and he laughed? They knew, we knew. No disrespect to Tim but he's a rookie and perhaps a little short sighted (no holding mids against City?? Errr OK! Why did Jose play 2 def mids against Liverpool - because he knows how to win) We have a top quality squad - yes with a few additions / changes (left back/CB/ Striker x2) we could be really strong. I like the idea of playing Sandro and Capoue away at the big guns with a 3 in front and one up top. Seems like a no brainer to me and I assume a top manager would do the same, if you want to win things, start by not losing! How did Tim think he was going to fare with no def mid against top teams! Douche I think is the word. I'm hoping FDB for 10 years then when finally goes Klinsmann. That's my 2pence worth anyway! Best regards to all, love reading all your honest opinions and shows we all care! Some interesting striker rumours circulating as others have mentioned too! COYS!
chavli
I'm worried about having Poch as the next manager. Sure Southampton play great attacking football but their defense is a bit of a shambles at times and have made many mistakes second to us.

We need to make sorting out our defensive problems the main priority as this should relieve the pressure we put ourselves under by letting in early goals.
Rapm
PS: TS said: "I've told chairman and Baldini who I think should stay, go and who we should get' OK Tim, thanks. Just seems moronic to say that to press, he knew, we knew, the players knew - as if they will value that list!!! Douche!
chavli
Thank you for your effort Tim. Good luck in the future, maybe some media training would serve you well, please remember that there is a whole lot more to the role than just what occurs on the field.
cider spurs
Rapm. That's true. I'm getting worried now. Poch will be another to divide us fans and will get so much stick if he loses a few of his first games. I can see the insults flying already.
MAN ON!
How do say: "the players need to show some character", in Spanish?
MAN ON!
FANTASTIC NEWS.

But if Pochettino or Frank De Boer become the next Spurs manager it will be usual next season farce at Spurs,none of them tick enough boxes for me.

benitez or cappello for me,i`d be happy with either of these 2.Been there & done what Spurs haven`t for a very long time,& all round best candidates IMO.

pochettino will not get top 4 IMO & Frank De Boer is terrible at taking Ajax to Europe
Fanny adams
Who: Grey Fox

When: 13th May

Where: SC

Apparently lots of chat in the Directors lounge last night and it seems we have not totally given up on LVG yet. People think that others like Ancelotti may become available and some at Utd are concerned about LVG being a loose cannon.. Not expecting to make an announcement for a week or so, others like Poch and FDB are not avaiable for interview yet.

At this stage I would really not be suprised if Levy does one of his specials and something comes from left field.

Talk of players in or out is premature, apart from Gomes going nothing will happen until new man in post.
cider spurs
Left back is priority and a commanding CB. I just hope we can keep Vert and Lloris. If we can get a top coach we might be able to persuade them to stay. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Fanny - Where do you honestly think Ajax should be in Europe, in today's game where money dominates. Do you think they should get out of groups that contain Barcelona, AC Milan et al?

I do believe Ajax have beaten Barcelona, Man City in Europe but then slip up against the likes of Celtic. On this evidence I can only assume FdB is ideal for the Totenham job :-)
yiddyboy
We need a manager/coach to come in and the players to think "I give it one more season with him". I'm not sure Pochettino will have that effect, FdB maybe on Verts. LvG/Capello/Ancelotti are all massive statements from Mr Levy. Moyes will continue our current circus!!
yiddyboy
I'm hoping for FdB or Benitez (even if he is a little eccentric). Mancini could be good but he is a notorious hot-head so he and Levy is a bitch-fight just waiting to happen. I'm not sure Pochettino will be the right man unless he can bring players like Shaw, Lallana and Rodriguez with him. That's unlikely so... Some managers to perhaps consider from abroad (even though they don't have PL experience) would be Murat Yakin (Drug-Dealer Chic) and Thomas Tuchel with Jupp Heynckes (as a kind of teacher & apprentice pair?)
SpuriousLife
FDB ticks my boxes but so does many others. I'm just looking forward to the new season. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
yiddyboy have a look at his record,

Only this season Ajax lost 6-1 over 2 legs to Red bull Salzburg.Would Spurs fan accept that?

If you`re going for Pochettino or Frank De Boer then i have to ask why sack AVB? AVB is a better manager than both IMO.
Fanny adams
Haha, Drug-dealer chic? Does he wears Armani gilets and Gucci tracksuits! Does he support Chelsea!?
MAN ON!
It’s a worry when the season gets more exciting when the football's over!
Geofspurs
I think FDB would be my top choice. Verts and Erikson should be happy to work with him due to the Ajax links. These are two players we need to keep happy.
Rapm
James...How about Ashley Cole and Lescott on a free. Make up the wages with no transfer fee involved. Experience for those younger and both have at least a season left in them.

Could allow us to spend a little more money on the LWer we desperately need. How's about

Lloris(GK)...Walker(RB)...Vlad/Daws(RCB)...Lescott/Verts.(LCB)...Cole(LB)...Sandro....Holtby(CM)...Lamela(RW)...Konoplyanka(LW)...Eriksen(AM)...Soldado(CF)

Looks alright to me, maybe able to get a few more upgrades, maybe swap Holtby for Capoue dependant on who or how we play.
cider spurs
Jebus you guys surely can go thru managers! Someone surely has to look at Levy's track record at some stage no?

Fan expectation level is simply too high at Spurs. At any other club in any other league in Europe finishing in the top 6 would have been regarded as a good achievement for a team with limited resources, competing against much bigger teams and having just lost their best player FFS.

I know we all want our team to win everything but there has to be some level of realism coming into the discussion at some stage?

All that this season has done for Spurs is raise the exception level even higher and make the club a less attractive option for any serious manager out there.

Galway Gooner
Well it looked good to me. Seriously though, is there not some merit in signing Cole and Lescott?. Could maybe spend a little more elsewhere on upgrades whilst also adding experience to the side. Both should be good for at least a season
cider spurs
Cider I would be very happy with those players. Cole might be beyond us. He'll probably like to play CL and playing abroad might be too enticing. Would like to see us approach Ben Davies and Everton's Coleman. I do like the look of Fredericks. I hope he makes more apperances next season.
a.k.a.james1spurs
Galway Gooner. The last thing we need is a Gooner coming on here and talking sense. ;-)
MAN ON!
Spurious...Yakin was my choice on the forum. He lives football. Often in preparing the days training 2 hours before the rest of the squad, afternoon's studying opponents on video, evenings at times prepared to travel Europe watching other teams. He leaves nothing to chance and is very adept at changing tactics in game as required and has no problem changing formation week on week dependant on the opponent,
cider spurs
cider spurs... I'm with you there....
MAN ON!
Gooner troll alert. Save it, how about worrying about your own club. Oh you know ***** all about ours so don't pretend too. COYS.
SpursOne2
Forgetting likns/ties to other clubs, Cole & Lescott would both be very good free signings, so long as wages weren't ridiculous. I'd offer both 2 year deals if they wanted to come.
King26
Spurs will always be a big club, that will attract decent players and coaches. The crap you come out with gooner....go have a wash. COYS.
SpursOne2
Galway, can't disagree with much you are saying. At the same time Arsenal have seriously under achieved , close shave with Spurs too many times for 4th? I mean 4th, you get sod all in the Olympics for 4th. For a club of Arsenal stature that's phiss poor. Wenger out.
ItalianYiddo
MAN ON - Yakin has this cool don't phuck with me look about him. He strikes me as being the sort that will not say anything and will just look at you and keep looking at you until you pebble dash the inside of your trousers. That might be just what some of our serial sulkers and under-achievers need.
SpuriousLife
Martinez would be a better shout,he`s done wonders at Everton.

Signing a manager just because he`ll keep certain players happy is a recipe for disaster.IMO Frank De Boer doing well in the Dutch league but $hit elsewhere out of it is a massive cause for concern.
How did the Dutch league get so easy that even Mclaren can do well over there with all due respect.
Fanny adams
The Cole and Lescott post.... Yakin, I'm not sure about.
MAN ON!
Zidane's on the market lol
Guyver
SpursOne2 You`re making yourself look a real idiot.
Fanny adams
fanny-has martinez really done wonders at everton?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Cider - I think Yakin could be very, very good. Of course there is the usual caveat regarding lack of PL experience. However, a good manager will be able to overcome this. I think I'm going to start a campaign for Murat 'Drug-Dealer Chic' Yakin to be our new manager.
SpuriousLife
SpuriousLife. I think you could be right. It was your description of him that made me smile not the suggestion of Yakin.
MAN ON!
Yakin IN
tarkan mardinCOYS
Yakin OUT!
cider spurs
Fanny - No I'm not. The guy talks copious amounts of *****e. ‘All that this season has done for Spurs is raise the exception level even higher and make the club a less attractive option for any serious manager out there.’ LOL go ahead follow that, but its total bollox. Oh, don't need you to point out what i am/am not doing. I can take care of my self Fanny. COYS.
SpursOne2
Pulis???......lol lord give me strength, I would rather have TS back or even AVB
Ossie
tarkan mardinCOYS IMO yes.

Spurs best ever points tally is 72 relying on Gareth bale to get 20 of those on his own.

How many points did Everton get this year with no Gareth Bale,or any superstar player.
Fanny adams
Spurious...I am the only one who voted for him on the forum side of VS. I stand by my conviction, whilst not my absolute 1st choice, it was merely based on past association, the style his teams play, the man's dedication to his role, past successes although abroad, and realistic targets in the management structure.
cider spurs
SpursOne2

IMO Galway gooner is alright,only you know why your acting the way you are.
Fanny adams
Let's talk about that after we top arsenal next season!
Dublin Hotspur
Someone commented that when Tim stuck his foot in his mouth we complained, but we wouldn't have complained if some famous manager had done so. Let me say, however, that I find it utterly distasteful every time the self-proclaimed "Special One" disses one of his players in public. I also find it distasteful when people diss their wives and children in public. When one goes public with such things, it gets as difficult to put things back together again as it was for the King's men to piece Humpty Dumpty together again after his fall. Here's hoping our next manager stays a while this time, has a chance to build something, and keeps things inside the club house instead of airing out the dirty laundry on a public clothes line.


As to appointing the next manager, I have two antithetical inclinations: (a) Let's get it done quickly so that the new team can start to put their ideas into place now and not after the next season is underway and not after DL and whomever have sold and signed a new set of players, and (b) Let's not rush into a signing just to have someone signed. Let DL take his time and get "the right person," as if their were such a creature.


We've churned through far too many managers in the DL era, and in part that's because we've brought in far too many "wrong" managers. Harry, for example, brought us the thrill of an exciting run in the CL, but he wasn't the man to build anything from this thrill. Some of the most thrilling women I've encountered clearly weren't the women on which I could build a lasting relationship. It's hard to find someone who can provide the thrills and be right for the long term, and if it takes a wee bit 'o time to find such a new lover, let's allow the time. But surely that time was when we had Timmy about as a caretaker


As to Timmy, farewell and many thanks for taking care of our team on the pitch for the short time you were here. I'm glad you're not sticking around because you're not up to building for the long term, but I do thank you for keeping things patched together as well as you did while you were here, and may the gods bless you, lad.

Falstaff the Fool
You do know he's been Sherwoods regular dealer for years. I saw them both on the Seven Sisters road in a Turkish restaurant exchanging money for goods under a table of coffee and kebabs.
MAN ON!
Spurs first summer signing should be Evertons John Stones,he`s going to become a great player imo.
Fanny adams
Fanny - I understand what you are trying to say but the resources Ajax have he has done a decent job in Europe games (overall). AVB got spanked 6-0 by City, FbD beat City with Ajax. Every story has 3 sides, yours, mine and the truth :-)

I'd be happy with anyone of FdB, LvG, Manchini, Capello (old Baldini's mate), Benitez, then the other names being touted would be a similar AVB gamble, IMO.
yiddyboy
Italian - All things consider I'd say that Arsenal have performed at just below where you would expect them to be. League finishing positions have been ok and while a cup win or two would have been nice there is a lot of luck involved in them (Hull have yet to play premier league opposition and Arsenal have yet to play away en route to the final). Wenger will stay on for another 2 year contract but I wouldn't be surprised if his replacement comes in early.

Similar in the league I think Spurs are pretty much where you would expect them to be also which is around the 5th-6th best team in the league.

just don't see what constantly firing your manager achieves only more instability.

Galway Gooner
Introducing a new manager to the supporters is a bit like bringing a new girl home to meet Mum and Dad and saying this is the one. Few are ever going to be accepted as good enough by the future in-laws. But, enthused or not, Mum and Dad, if they have any sense at all, need to make the new member of the family welcome. Let the squabbling and moaning that is a major part of family life come later when the new person isn't new any longer. There is a reason that the first months are called a honeymoon.
Falstaff the Fool
Highgate, Ramsey has been our Head of Player Development since 2004. He is far more qualified than TS, as he holds his UEFA licence. Has worked with U16 England under Keegan. He knows his stuff dealing with developing kids hence why we need to keep him and although TS gets the credit for bringing in NB & HK this season, it would be with Ramsey's knowledge to do so.
CoysRus
Fanny Adams, how about signing Everton's manager
In-spurs-ational
murat yakin is fine by me,his got turkish blood in him like me.COYS
tarkan mardinCOYS
Why do you need Zidane when we have got Sherwood... WOOPS? ;)
taniban
Pochettino NO NO NO NO. This would be an utter disaster. What has he done?? Nothing at Espanyol and nothing at Southampton. All the good southampton kids were already there and as for buying, well Osvaldo and Rameires have hardly worked out have they. If we get this guy what was the point in axing Avb? They are identical. Benitez is the stand out candidate or failing that it has to be De Boer. pick Pochettino and he'll be sacked inside 18 months .............
jimmy-yid
Fanny ... Did Ajax play our players in that game? Otherwise I don’t think the comparison counts for much. I’m sure any manager would get different results with different teams and different players.
Geofspurs
Fanny - I didn’t ask for your opinion did I? I was actually typing a reply to someone e before you decided to stick your nose in. I am correctly pointing out where the source of huge whiff of crap coming from….and it’s from a gooner poster who loves to come on here for a wind up. I’m allowed to do that, and there’s nothing wrong with it either. COYS
SpursOne2
Again Galway can't disagree with anything you say, Levy has gone quite some way to make Spurs second or third choice for any prospective candidate, case in point Rodgers who went public about it. At the same time Mourinho has a point when he says that Wenger would not be in a job with a top club after so many years of not winning anything. Spurs and Arsenal are the two extremes.
ItalianYiddo
GG ... Change your colours and join us. You can do it, and you know you want to. Besides, the discussions are more lively on here than on your site. And you do talk a lot of sense, which is more than many of your colleagues do. All you have to do is change your shirt and type COYS, and you’ll be more than welcome.
Geofspurs
Spurious - if we renew and he lets us down - we could always the StubHub system!!! LOL - I feel that there will be no let up now for the call for Levy to move across!!!
Highgatespur
If FDB failed to win anything at Ajax he wouldn't be in the frame. Such a poor excuse to lambast FDB because the dutch league is weak compared to other keagues in Europe. You must be very good to win 4 league titles imo. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
dont get why fdb is being mentioned yet murat yakin isnt on the radar,they both will win the domestic league but basle seem to make a bigger impact in europe than ajax ever do.strange
tarkan mardinCOYS
66/1 yakin to be next manager
tarkan mardinCOYS
tarkan mardinCOYS.. In that case, I do hope you didn't think I was being offensive........
MAN ON!
Geof -- haha, I know you'd love me but it aint happening!

Rafa is a good option for you lot, will bring a level of professionalism to the club, is big enough to draw bigger players and while he wont win you the league (not sure anyone can do that with your current squad) he will push you towards top four and win you a cup or two.

All assuming that he'd be given time and not kicked out at the first chance that Levy gets.

Galway Gooner
Geofspurs If Spurs didn`t sack 20,000 managers in 15 years then i`d say Frank De Boer is worth the risk,the potential is there.

But IMO Levy cannot afford anymore risky managers like Pochettino or Frank De Boer because IMO neither cut the mustard.

Frank De Boer has never got Ajax out of the Champions league group stages & has never done well in Europa.
Next manager needs to have a CV envied by many.AVB & Ramos both had a better CV so why take such a big chance that could go either way?
Everyones a risk,but the evidence is there that FDB fails in Europe,& fails big time.
The EPL is a different kettle of fish & in Holland,if you manage Ajax you just have to get the basics right & the rest takes care of itself.
Sad for the Dutch league when a team can win so easily,yet against other European teams fall short.The odd great win is now what great managers are all about.
Frank De Boer will not do well at Spurs IMO as the competition will be too much,he`s not used to it & he hasn`t given anything to say he`s a tactical genius.
Fanny adams
I'd be happy to win a cup of tea next year!
MAN ON!
GG. Try having Tim in charge for a few months and then decide if you stick, twist or bust! He shouldn't have been put in, and had to go. Agree with the general gist of your gib though!
Dublin Hotspur
Italian - Jose is right in about 80% of what he says about Wenger. Yes Wenger is allowed to get away with some aspects of his job that wouldn't be accepted at other clubs. But then Jose has never stayed at a club for longer than 3 full seasons (I think) so his mentality has always been very different to Wenger.

I think Wenger was about the best manager we could have had over the past 10 years but I also think that if you gave Jose Arsenal's squad and resources he'd win the league next season.

Galway Gooner
GG ... It’s the time factor that’s the worry for a Spurs manager.
Geofspurs
nah,you are all right Man on.
tarkan mardinCOYS
FA, it doesn't work like that. Who's to say that Ajax would have easily won 4 titles on the trot with someone else in charge? Tim for example.
MAN ON!
fanny, ur getting desperate, wigan knocked out city in FA cup, chelsea dropped 17 points against the bottom 6, RM hammered BM, BM hammered barcel, ur clutchng at straws,
123spurs
So what's the expectation level for Spurs fans?

Like really, the top 2 positions are gone with City and Chelsea. So then you're down to competing with the likes of United, Liverpool, Everton and ourselves for the final 2 positions.

No offense but Arsenal are probably a level above you (both in terms of current squad quality, spending power and relative attractiveness to top players). So assume Arsenal are 3rd or at least in the top 3.

Do you think that realistically you are entitled to finish above United (who will be stronger), Liverpool (who will have a far worse season having to play CL) and Everton (think they will drop off with the quality of their loan signings falling).

And if you finish 5th, is that grounds for firing the manager?

Galway Gooner
martinez got wigan relagated not good on your CV is it now?
123spurs
GG you should be worred aswell fin outside top 4 if utd get there act together
123spurs
Wenger managed Monaco and won the title but he decided to manage in Tokyo not long after. Not much of a CV is it? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Frank De Boer has a win ration of 31%,that`s rubbish for a team that walks their own league,i find it a cause of concern..
FDB Europe 32 10 6 16 33 52 -19 31.25
Fanny adams
everybody is a risk,i dont know what and how to think
tarkan mardinCOYS
Gooner - Stop trying to hijack the article you bell end. This isn't Vital Arsenal. COYS.
SpursOne2
Galway Gooner. Perfection is the expectation. A football fans dream is just that, a dream, until we win. Meanwhile, we're just losers.
MAN ON!
Highgate. Hiring a rookie, giving him a 18 month contract and then sacking him after 6 months makes us more of a laughing stock, more then any of ts antics. You only think that way because you wanted ts out and u are a spurs supporter . But I can assure you other supporters find the way our club is run comical. Ts is just a scapegoat imo.
spurfect one
Fanny adams. What was Sherwoods win ratio? You didn't like him either.
MAN ON!
123Spurs - really think United need about 5-6 first team signings (not squad players - starters in the first 11) before they will be serious contenders again. That current team is shot.

Also not sure on LVG, he's crazy as **** and has been out of club management for quite a while.

I expected Arsenal to finish 3rd this season and was only 3 points off. I think that we'll really push for the league title next season. One or two big signings will be made during the summer.

Galway Gooner
Where was it and what was it that SAF, Wenger and Jose won, before coming to the PL?
MAN ON!
At this point in time there are probably 7 very good teams in the EPL. They all have title aspirations and are all capable of realising them .... with a bit of luck. None of them are going to roll over and give the others an easy ride. No team has a divine right for the title. And there is little disgrace in losing out to any of them from a football perspective. Top four is not a given for any team next season. To appoint a manager with the caveat that he must achieve top four or face the sack is both naive and foolhardy in the extreme ... imo of course. It’s a tough competition. It’s an exciting competition. Isn’t it great!
Geofspurs
Geofspurs...Hear, hear.
MAN ON!
Dublin, no worries - written on similar line on one of the other threads. Gues what ? It's FdB all the way for me but don't mind anyone experienced and has had success!

As an afterthought - was disappointed not to see Soldado and did you see the way Capoue waved at the end - hopefully not what it looked like!!!
Highgatespur
Cleveland - the media folks are showing extreme surprise at their major source of info leaves the stage.....
Highgatespur
Cider, hope you are mistaken, like ManOn, disappointed if it is MP but not upset (see Man On - the world has not stopped!!!)
ok with Lescott but not sure if A Cole would even look in our direction.. I
Highgatespur
Is anyone listening to Darren Gough at the moment ... he knows a lot of Spurs - so he thinks!!!! What a joke.
Highgatespur
Geof, no I didn't take it seriously ... I'm almost at the point of being beyond the point of being in 'utopia'.....
It only gets exciting as the right thing has been done finally .... happy talking ...
Highgatespur
Chavli - isn't that true of everything he has said...
Highgatespur
(on the right page...yes...ok..!)

i would love to see de boer create a conveyer-belt system of players....it's widely known that he like to oversee all the teams from the under 18's to the senior squad...long-term this makes sense.so if there is a bright young talent in the youth teams, he knows his role before he even gets to the senior squad......it goes without saying that this will take time to come to fruition but when/if it does we could possibly be a dominating force in pl football for a many a season.....*opens eyes*....'Ahh...it was all a dream!'......also,i would love to look our dug-out next season and see freund,stam and de boer sat there(shhh ...even the one who can't be mentioned because of his former ties....shhh!)....imagine jaap stam as our defensive coach.....*opens eyes*....'Ahh,sh17...not again,and whats this wet sticky patch on my leg...?'

(man on,cider-spurs,highgatespurs et al)....i must apologise if i don't respond to your comments as i pretty much dip in and out when i get the time.please don't take it personally.......(oxfordspur,ohvey maris,ciderspurs,jod and everyone else)a massive thank you to all who have taken the time and effort to write articles this season.irrelevant of whether we agree or disagree,i for one appreciate the effort...keep 'em coming......looking forward to coopsies 'nonsense' as silly season commences.....hang on,didn't it start in last December...?
g. roberts testes
Man On! I appreciate the concern but it's impossible to have all the supporters united. I am hoping everyone will unite with FdB (LOL)

there you Man On! you've given another reason of not liking TS LOL!!
Highgatespur
Cider, Gomes could have played last night - bad treatment of the guy...

Cider, are you outting Yakin ? I knew you knew of him but not that well!!! LOL
Highgatespur
james - you speak m mind re FdB!!! It is winning mentality that we as a club have been missing so much over the years
Highgatespur
IY - agree with you re L'arse except for the last bit - want Wenger to stay !!!

In a way I am very glad that the two clubs are at two extremes...
Highgatespur
spurious - the more I hear about cider's man (Yakin) the more I think he'll do ok ...
Highgatespur
CoysUs, THANK YOU .... so it wasn't a success story of TS then !!! Yup always thought he was a man of good sort (except for saluting skills) Thanks
Highgatespur
FtF, what a great analogy...
Highgatespur
SpursOne2 good post re the gooner - why is his postings so welcome on here ?
Highgatespur
g. roberts testes. No worries.
MAN ON!
spurfect one - I do talk to other fans ... as DL said today that a 18 month contract was signed with a 'get out' clause at this time - 6 month period. We are less of a laughing stock now that we are TS less!! Your first sentence shows you agree with me!!!
Highgatespur
Geof,agreed but it is good to feel that your club is doing its best to achieve the said goals rather than inflicting self harm!!!
Highgatespur
In an ideal world Spurs would win the title and I’d have unlimited financial resources and be shacked up with Jessica Alba somewhere. But in the real world ....! The moral being, don’t let the unrealistic expectations of what you want destroy what you already have. Enjoy the moment. Enjoy the never ending Spurs story.
Geofspurs
No problem, g. roberts testes.
Highgatespur
MAN ON! Tim Sherwoods ratio is 50%.

If 50% win ration among Spurs fans is great then keep Tim.Winning half your games wins you nothing but i expect better from Spurs.AVB win ration was 55% so AVB did better at Spurs if you want stats & not look at the bigger picture.The bigger picture is both had to go because in football if don`t win anything,you have to be able to command respect by other means,neither achieved this.

Martinez at Everton is nearly 57% with a far inferior squad (IMO).Good win ratio & also gained alot of respect Spurs managers fail to do.

Mourinho is aa annoying gob$hiite,but he has the trophies to back it up,No Spurs manager has that luxury of arrogance.
Fanny adams
MAN ... But all the Manchester supporters are United! lol
Geofspurs
123 Spurs, why will Everton do well again? How is Martinez managing a team in four competitions? No history there. Who will they loan in to replace their awesome loans from this season? How will they deal with all of the extra games? Can they afford to buy 5-7 new players so that they have a squad large enough to deal with the bump that come from playing twice a week? Only 15 players made at least 24 appearances and 3 of those are loaned players that they probably will not have next season. Those three also accounted for 21 of heir PL goals this season. Pienaar, Osman, Distin, Jagielka are another four who played most of the games and they are all over 30. Myself, I would not be backing Everton to be in the mix for top 4 next season. They have been very fortunate on the injury and loan front. COYS
peterballb
Gutted, just gutted, oh not on Tim Dim but nice getting sacked, just gutted the fish for tea.
spu 4 life
Pooch == Sherwood

De Boer == AVB

Van Gal > All of the above.
Rapm
Pochettino what a joke dont even speak English
stephenspurs1210
Fanny .... There has always been a sense that if you win the home games and draw the away games you will win the title. That would be winning 50% of the games, which means TS could have won us the title next season!
Geofspurs
But FDB's clubs have been very poor indeed in Europe. It is one thing to compete in Holland, quite another to do so outside of your domestic league. Yakin has done well in Euope, time and time again against bigger, better teams. He is a good coach who is prepared for the opposition at hand. He is not in my top 5 but he would be in the next 5. COYS
peterballb
Nice entry, spu !!!
Highgatespur
thats another thing that causes concern for me,the lingo.now we keep hearing how poch speaks perfect english and chooses to speak through an interpreter but it dont look good
tarkan mardinCOYS
peterballb-is fdb in your top 5?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Martinez has a 5 yr contract, so it's going to cost Levy 4 yrs at least to Everloan, could he again link up with Romelu Lukaku if we follow his one through, Ath Madrid also in part x with Chavs for Costa. FDB still possible and don't forget LVG has not signed anything with Man Utd.
spu 4 life
Geof I hear that the UEFA and FIFA are scrapping the qualifications for coaches after the TS experience at THFC... it will be known as the Gillet (ala Bosman) rule ..... LOL
Highgatespur
lol at the article title being updated!

I'd be willing to back anyone who gets the nod, including the two candidates that are already much maligned in some quarters. Moyes and Pochettino. In fairness, whoever it is needs time from us, and especially from Levy. Otherwise we should just appoint managers on an annual basis, which in the past twenty odd years is almost what we are doing anyway. Let's just make it official so we all know where we stand.

Thanks Tim, you did a pretty decent job. You made some howlers in the press and to some of the squad, but no way should you have been made the scapegoat. I reckon Norwich will come calling for you, so good luck.
SpursEagle
The conveyor belt of payers should be happening regardless of the senior coach. I would also suggest that it is happening. Bentaleb, Kane, Veljkovic, Townsend, Pritchard, Rose, Carroll, Livermore have all come through the reserves and on up. McEvoy, Hall, Coulthirst and others are all right behind. I think that there has been good work done in the scuting and development of our younger players. It could certainly be better but I believe that the managers this season had far better to select from than did Jol. I think many Spurs fans lose sight of where we were just 8 years ago. 7 years in Europe with one year in the CL. That is from the mid-table preteners that we had been for so long. As you climb the table, the next steps become so much steeper. All of Jol, Ramos, Harry, AVB and TS deserve credit for not letting the level drop. In fact, they are all also to blame for our unrealistic expectations. I sid at the beginning of this seasn that Europa was all I expected (given all the changes) and that next season was when we could realistically be disappointed with no CL. We need to address a few positions. All key players are under contract and we could certainly hold the players to that. That said, if the appointment of the next manager does not sugges that it's CL next season, we need to let all those who want to go, go. Pochettino has nothing on his managerial CV to suggest he could win cups, the league, get CL, win Europa, manage a large squad, manage in four competitions. He is just not qualified and will not change the minds of players wanting to leave. If ENIC are to force players to stay, they have to hold up thei part of the bargain. There are very fe managers that tick off the necessary boxes. COYS
peterballb
What about ...... (Drum roll)....... Chris Hughton. He's Spurs through and through, he has PL experience with Newcastle and Norwich, he's a good guy, humble, deferential, comports himself well in the media, but most importantly, he's currently between positions, so no compo required.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
High ... Well, in that case, you’d have to agree that the influence TS has had on the game in general has been massive!
Geofspurs
Cleveland ... I’d forgotten about Chris Hughton. He knows the club. Could well be worth a shout, imo.
Geofspurs
peterballb I think you are partially right about the youth - but in truth they haven't really excelled to the height of ledley, say... I still hold on to the point the players are not receiving appropriate guidance between the ages of 18 and 21... we have had only Caulker achieving to any notable level.... please don't say Andros ... I will judge after a full season in PL as far as AT is concerned.
I feel it is always good to aspire to achieve beyond expectations isn't it ? If you always achieve expectations - an indication of no improvement ? I do think it's imperative to get a manager with successful background - that will go towards establishing a winning mentality within the club.
Highgatespur
Geof, I do. totally massive influence... we have learnt a great deal from the experience! I think L'arse and chelski will be chasing for the same in the close season!

I think we've had a bellyful of acting as an employment agency for ex players - we need break.... PLEASE
Highgatespur
Cleveland, if we can't get an A-list guy, that makes perfect sense. He never really wanted to leave Spurs and he has not, to my knowledge, had player unrest at any of his stops as a manager. He does not have the experience I would like in four competitions, but, he is as qualified as a few other names out there that are being proffered as good ideas. For the same reasons I would still rather Owen Cyle than some of the other names out there. We need someone who is a taskmaster,but has players willing to go through walls for him. The results are not always there in the table but the efects of coaching are there on the pitch for everyone to ee. In the end, if you have players that are in the bottom three talent wise in the League, you are likely to get relegated. Coaching is important but it cannot make roast beef out of Spam. COYS
peterballb
Spam! Lovely Spam! Roast beef is better! Is there a war on? Always is, somewhere in the world!
MAN ON!
peterballb.. Good post by the way.
MAN ON!
IT'S Daniel Levy's Flying Circus!
MAN ON!
"every youth team within the academy are trained in exactly the same way (execpt for physical / fitness training) as the Ajax first team, hence making the players accustomed to the core playing style, and making it easier to adapt when they make it to the first team. The same 4-3-3 formation and ‘total football’ style of play have been central to the club’s success over the last 20-30 years, where creativity, technique and speed are an absolute necessity."........discuss!
g. roberts testes
g. roberts testes. This is exactly why FDB is my man of choice but, it's been the Ajax way for all those years. Can it also be the Spurs way?
MAN ON!
Is it what Levy wants? I want it......
MAN ON!
g.roberts testes, would love a similar system being at Spurs.... investing on quality at the first team level as well!!!!
Highgatespur
Highgatespur, I don't think that is fair. When you have a large squad that is built to compete in four competitions, you can't expect to be promoting from youth right in to your squad. How many players in the top 6 have done that in recent years? Arsenal does it to a fair amount of success. Liverpool have been able to do it because they pared down their senior players as they were no longer in the mix for CL and were even out of Europe. It is a big step going from the u-21's to being a PL player. It is a whole other thing to go from u-21's to being a PL player deposing a senior player o a club in the mix for CL. I like Bentaleb, but he needed to be loaned out before being thrown in to the mix ahead of players like Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Dembele etc. Carroll and Livermore have not been great but both have shown an ability to play at a PL level. Is it good enough to displace any ofour "starters". I don't think so. Kids need to be playing. Lukaku is a very good player. He is, however, been deemed to be not good enough to hold a place at Chelsea. He's not good enough to displace the senior players and he is too good to sit. It's the reality of things. I would hope that every year there are 3 or 4 banging on the door. I would expect that 1 may make it in to the squad. The other three, you develop and sell for a large profit that allows you to buy more players to put in to the system. The "far" system should be self-sustining, if run correctly and it should provide savings to the parent club in players that don't need to be bought off of the open market. Townsend will be fine, if properly played and coached. There is talent there to be harnessed. It was not that long ago that people lamented Bale's horrid shooting and crosses. The gambling charges that saw him miss the U-21 and the England call-up, have placed him in a spotlight he hadn't earned. As normally happens in such cases, he fell down. He needs to be brought along slowly and in a style that gets the best out of his talents. Bentaleb is the same. Pritchard too. Kane, IMO, by more luck than design, seems to be the one that is being brought along at the correct pace. Somewhat under the radar, yet when he plays well, it's hard to believe how young he is. Seems to have been around for a long time, yet, he's still just a kid, with lots more upside potential. There is a lot in our system right now to be proud of. Players like Falque, Coulimay, Ceballos and others may not ever make it, but they have etched out a niche and there will be value from those sales. Falque has done very well this year by most accounts. Not good enough for Spurs, but he'll find teams that like his style, whether in Spain or Portugal. Our youth system, to my eyes, looks far better than it did even 5 years ago. ENIC, Sherwood, Ramsay et al all deserve some credit in that. COYS
peterballb
peterballb-you and owen coyle jeez,
tarkan mardinCOYS
Good article. Ox. I share the same train of thought. He hadn't done bad, given the circumstances, and could well go on to have a very good career. He's outspoken, to his own detriment, but I welcome his honest assessments for the fans, some the same fans that whinge at never hearing from, I dunno, Levy, for instance... You can't win. (Unless you win). Classic. Sherwood needs managerial history behind him. With his 'all cards on the table' approach, you can't make mistakes (we know he has). You can't have anything on you. I appreciated his honesty but I'm mindful he may have called somethings wrong as well, at some point, and you don't need that, as a manager. Without a proven history behind him, he needed to display a more tactful approach. Easy-peasy hindsight. But even those of us that appreciated him would be hard-pushed to keep him on when you look at the quality and experience of potential replacements, so he didn't stand much chance. I say a big thanks to Tim, bad luck with the p45 but good luck for the future.
jerkinmahjurgen
peterballb. Again, a good post, with which I agree. That's why it's good.... ;-)
MAN ON!
jerkinmahjurgen... Nice one...
MAN ON!
Well yeah... Not sure about the Coyle bit... :-)
MAN ON!
How about Michael Laudrup? Has an eye for a good bargain, teams play the right way and over achieve, has managed multi national squads, can spot a good young British player ((Davies, Shelvey) - maybe his ambition will match ours?
kernowboy71
Will we all remember what we were doing when the Queen pops her clogs? Of course we will... We'll be on here discussing the pros and cons of our next manager!
MAN ON!
Mauricio Pochettino? Does he speak English? He can speak with Lamela! And a bit with Paulinho & Sandro!

Maybe if he brings Luke Shaw and Alan Lallana with him!



Rafa Benitez? Boring!!

If he brings Mertens, Higuain and Hamsik with him there might be a chance!



Frank de Boer?

Huge potential and would be good for our younger players. I believe the right choice if given time.




Roberto Mancini anyone? ;)
Yidmarks
Id like to know what role Baldini will have in all of this..

Italian manager is possible!
Yidmarks
I'll take Henry Mancini right now and, he past away years ago.
MAN ON!
FDB, IMO, is not the right man for the job. He is a very good coach at Ajax, within that system and with finances behind hm that dwarf the competition. Heck, most clubs get less thn half the attendance that Ajax gets and the top three far outclass their competition when it comes to ability to buy players. Yakin, IMO, has done far more with less and h has managd the same feat with some stellar results in Europe. COYS
peterballb
I'll take De Boer and that's my final answer...... The rest will never be good enough for me. ;-) I'm off out to celebrate the fact that I'm still alive. FDB IN! Up the Spurs!
MAN ON!
Mr Sherwood was a decent manager with i believe the best win %.

But we got 69 points which was 10 points off the CL placings.

Our team is capable, but who can make them achieve!
Yidmarks
Maybe Yakin.......
MAN ON!
Bless you all... Yet another chapter in Spurs' great and not so great history.... I've already put a tenner on us winning the title next year!
MAN ON!
Dublin how could you have been hoping to have had Van Gaal or FDB about a month ago when one stated categorically he would not make a decision until after the WC and the other until after the Dutch season ended? Van Gaal has shown no desire to be a part of our club preferring MANU and FDB requires special treatment. I am falling into the Rafa Benitez camp at this time because I think we need a top coach and a name to attract players.
jvd
Or Rafa..... I do like Rafa.
MAN ON!
kernowboy71, I think Frank Laudrup is a far greater shout than DeBoer. He has experience managing a squad on four fronts. Has won the Cup with Swansea. Was a respected player and sets up his teams to attack. He has the ability to manage one off cup games and return to the rigours of the league. He would be a reasonable shout and I can't think of any negatives that come with him. The teams he has managed have largely outperformed expectations and thus his winning percentage is a bit of a red herring. He is a manager that I believe the players would support and that the fans would support. Good call. Probably in there with Martinez for 5th or 6th choice with Yakin right behind in 7th. Can't sa there aren't options out there. The questions are, will ENIC gt in a serious manager and will any serious manager come? COYS
peterballb
Man U have yet to employ anyone yet, so it's whoever they don't get...
MAN ON!
tarkin mardinCOYS, absolutely. So long as some of the names bring nothing to the table but a name, I'll continue to suggest Coyle. There is nothing that tells me that Pochettino or FDB will get more out of our squad than Coyle. None have shown that they can manage the rigours of four competitions and none suit this Spurs squad. There are much bigger fish we should be going for and it is time for ENIC to get it right. COYS
peterballb
peterballb. Again, I agree...... I've got to go.... Someone tell me to F Off!
MAN ON!
Seriously, I'm all for giving an up and coming guy the chance... the opportunity. That's what excites me more. I like the risk. FDB excites me more than the proven ones....
MAN ON!
We need a bloody revolution... A revelation! Not the boring.. we've been there and done that's!
MAN ON!
A man of the future, not a man of the yesterday! A Woman?
MAN ON!
The fans and the club will not be patient with anyone who comes in as the potential "next one". We need an "A-list" manager. FD is not on that list. COYS
peterballb
peterballb.. I know you're right.. I'm a dreamer..... I am.
MAN ON!
East London awaits me and I can't find my bloody passport!
MAN ON!
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/king-of-the-lane/ bits from last night's Ledley game, if you want to see it.
longtimespur
peterballb If we need an A List manager which is true.....
,br>Then for the love of God can we stop mentioning donkeys like Owen Coyle & Chris Hughton.You`re actually making me thing we should have sacked Tim Sherwood when it comes to bollox like that.

What`s next somebody bigging up David Moyes? oh my days.We need a stallion,somebody with pedigree because i`m really starting to believe Spurs fans are starting to enjoy the chaos & embarrassment we bring ourselves.

I`ve an idea Alan pardew,Tim punches them Pardew headbutts them,happy days.

let`s get serious people & for that we need a serious manager.Maybe boring,we`ve been boring for 20 years anyway so at least let`s win being boring.
Fanny adams
Whoever it is, I hope that he is the type who is quietly determined to go about his job without the carnival that surrounds it. I would like somebody who is understated, in tune with both the players and the other coaches, taciturn with the media, but most importantly somebody who can manage the expectations of fans + the owners at pitch level whilst remaining under the radar. I don't therefore want a name, or another club's damaged goods, or somebody controversial, or somebody with a point to prove. I don't want to hear how we are going for the league title in October, then top 4 in January, ending up disappointed again whilst missing our goals because of a dodgy meat pie. Let's do our business on the pitch in season 2014-15, whilst remaining out of the newspapers, time to "walk the walk". Over to you Mr Levy.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
g. roberts...Thanks mate!. Nice to see you still popping in here and there. Would absolutely love us to follow the model of Ajax. Highly unlikely the board would allow the time for this long term plan to come to fruition.

It really could serve us so well for years to come and actually set a benchmark in the prem with many of the top young talent wishing to join Spurs to be schooled the "Tottenham Way." if only the board ad the vision to see the benefits and actually stick with the programme.
cider spurs
Fanny adams, as I stated, these are people I would suggest if we are looking at the likes of Pochettino etc. I am not suggesting Owen Coyle should be the next Spurs manager. I am saying that some of the names people are suggesting are no more qualified for the position than Owen Coyle or Chris Hughton. Neither are donkeys. Both are capable managers who have never had decent players to select from. Neither are qualified for the job. Same goes for most of the names being considered on here and elsewhere. By oring, I take it you mean Benitez. He is third on my list. FDB, Pochettino, Coyle and Hughton are not on the list at all, for the record. COYS
peterballb
*had*
cider spurs
This whole saga has been a very sad reflection of our club and most certainly highlights a lack of strategy and poor leadership. Sadly, levy never seems to be accountable as he is joe's right hand man - I know in detail how Tavistock work and it will not change. Just hope levy gets lucky with a gem of an appointment, but don't have much faith in his decisions anymore. Hope I am wrong. her wood sacking is right, his appointment was always ridiculous and our club has been embarrassed again.
Windlespur
pj .... ex players who haven't been "coached" by him or had his rants and gesticulating. The players in the squad haven't come out for/anti TS yet! I wonder what we will learn from their comments? If they're allowed to speak on the last 4/5 months of his tenure The press are mostly for him too. Made their jobs so much easier with his speaking before thinking. He did a decent job that he was paid for and has a good hand-out at the end. Thank you and all the best for the future, bye.
longtimespur
The Top Ten Candidates according to some site.

10. David Moyes
9. Gus Poyet
8. Jurgen Klinsmann
7. Micheal Laudrup
6. Massimiliano Allegri
5. Glenn Hoddle
4. Roberto Martinez
3. Rafa Benitez
2. Mauricio Pochettino
1. Frank de Boer


We shall find out im guessing by the 18th May. Frank de Boer officially ends his duties as Ajax manager then.
Yidmarks
howard wilkinson or graham taylor
tarkan mardinCOYS
i agree with peterballb to a point,dont understand why let go of tim if fdb/poch are the front runners
tarkan mardinCOYS
welcome pj,hoping you stay for a bit this time round
tarkan mardinCOYS
@Fanny, you can't chastise Peter for the Chris Hughton suggestion, that was one of my gems, so I'll own up to it. We can all wish for an A-lister, but the only way we will get people like Ancelotti, Benitez, LVG or Capello is if DL and big Joe are willing to pay them above and beyond what Man U and all the other A list clubs would be willing to, and even then we would still be an outside bet. Although DL "forked out" a fair bit on Ramos, HR and AVB, I doubt he is willing to pay what it would take to get one of those guys to Spurs. So when you get to the level of FDB, Poch and co, it's a lucky dip, and those guys are no more likely to succeed that the likes of Owen Coyle or Chris Hughton. AVB and Ramos were two of the most successful managers in Europe that we had ever had, both got their teams into the CL, however both failed with Spurs. Trouble when you go fishing for a name, the expectation levels rise dramatically. Most cannot cope with the pressure that results from it. I can see FDB going the same way as Santini, Ramos and AVB, as he won't have experience in the Pl, won't be used to the pressure, and certainly won't get the time necessary to progress his "project" from either the fans or the board. The most important thing is that whoever we get, the players are on board. I really do not want to see a repeat of this season's player fall out. Any players who think that they are too good to play for the new manager, regardless of who he is should be sold.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
Right from the off 6 of them don't do it for me Yidmarks. Numbers 1-4 interest me. For what it's worth, in no particular order, here's my 10.

LVG
Benitez
FDB
Pochettino
Martinez
Yakin
Tuchel
Ancelotti
Joachim Low
Pele 10
cider spurs
Highgate. Completely disagree that my first sentence agrees with u. Care to enlighten?
spurfect one
pj ....... Dross everywhere. Sad fact of life in today's world. Stewards should have been interacting and stopping it. I thought there's supposed to be zero tolerance to that behaviour. My generation probably started the anti social behaviour. Good old "Swinging 60's" then once kids came along didn't keep our discipline code up to the higher standards of our parents. Degenerating ever since.IMHO of course.
longtimespur
Total ineptitude by our chairman to let the situation degenerate into the December debacle which left him with no plan other than to gamble on an unqualified rookie, the fact that Hoddle wasn't given till the end of the season, ineptitude example number two. Do I have faith in him to get it right this time? No, because the A listers, the proven coaches will not go anywhere near him, De Boer, Laudrup and Pochettino, one of those will be our next coach, my money is on Pochettino. Of course any of the three should be given our unreserved support for at least a full season if appointed, will Levy?
ItalianYiddo
longtime-scum procreate scum.that sort of thing happens in everyday life
tarkan mardinCOYS
From Yidmarks cited list: 1. DeBoer - not in my books - no success outside of Holland, on any level (Yakin is a far more accomplished manager); 2. Pochettino - come on, even more ridiculous. never won anything anywhere as a manager. 3. Benitez - number three on my list after Rijkaard and Mancini, so who am I to argue? 4. Martinez - ok, but has never managed a large squad nor has he ever managed a squad in four competitions - we'll see how he copes this year; 5. Hoddle - hasn't managed in years - pundit sagesse does not translate to the field; 6. Allegri - ok but there are better qualified people with far more international experience. Does he speak Engish? Not in my top ten; 7. Laudrup - a good choice with the requisite experience and quality necessary. 8. Klismann, yeah, great choice but he has just re-upped with the USMNT, his family love California and he will not leave them; 9 Gus Poyet - no - better choice than Pochettino but come on; 10. David Moyes - ok, back to Owen Coyle for me.

For me it has to be one of Rijkaard, Mancini, Benitez, Ancelotti, Martinez, Laudrup, Yakin - all of them have the age necessary to be a viable long-term option and all but Martinez have shown the ability to succeed domeastically and in Europe while keeping things going on allfronts. ENIC have to get this right and the person brought in must be given the time and the autonomy to get the job done. COYS
peterballb
pj ... as for the coaching of ex players .... My meaning was it's only EX players who are supporting TS thus far. Haven't heard anything on TS from the current players in the squad except the youngsters and Ade. All of whom TS has played.
longtimespur
I still think LVG is in the frame. Just reckon it comes down to how RM fair in the Final. Would laugh my arse off if United appointed LVG and Ancelotti became available to us. He's already stated how much he loves London Life.

this is why I feel Levy will take his time unless he can secure LVG from the outset. I would like to think Levy would hang fire on the appointment on the premise a better option may become available and he is left looking incompetent.
cider spurs
peter...Rijkaard has not managed since leaving Saudi. He has stated that he has no intention of managing again. Instead enjoying taking in a game here and there and enjoying his time away from football.
cider spurs
peterballb I was referring to someone saying Benitez boring.

And also my own favourite Fabio Capello.I know it will be disciplined & boring under him,but i also know Spurs are in no position to start demanding champagne football.

The Spurs way of playing football is yesteryear & we need to get to grips with modern football,it`s now played like a game of chess.
It can be dull,but i would just like to see Spurs win something & then play football.
Trying to play football to please the fans who then moan when we win phuck all,well that`s irony.

The one thing Spurs lack more than anything is consistency & it`s across the board.Managers inconsistent,players inconsistent,levy is inconsistent.
We must have sold & bought more players (combined) than any other EPL club in the last 10 years.
Have Spurs had the most managers?

We are establishing unwanted records & that`s why i`m not up for Frank De Boer or Pochettino,we now have to get somebody who carries the least risk factor.
Our hire & fire policy,our buy & sell policy is getting ridiculous.

Getting like Only fools & horses.
Del boy =Levy
Rodney=Tim Sherwood
Boycie=Harry Redknapp
Lovable Grandad =Martin Jol
Trigger= AVB
Uncle Albert=Spurs fans " During the war,Spurs played exciting football"
Fanny adams
Exactly PJ you are proving my point, don't remember many of us calling for AVB. Inept Levy appointed him, and than sack him for a rookie that couldn't be asked to get his badges....I ask you....
ItalianYiddo
tarkan ................. I hope T/ F/// you're not inferring it's my fault or my bloodline.
longtimespur
i said a while back top teams will think twice about appointing lvg,the guy is a serial maniac
tarkan mardinCOYS
no i wasnt longtimespur
tarkan mardinCOYS
If Levy has any sense he will move quickly and move heaven and earth to appoint a top manager in the ilk of Ancelotti, if he becomes available. We need to hang on to our best players, we have too many disillutioned players that need reassuring that they have a future here.
ItalianYiddo
PJ,welcome back… hope you enjoyed the game last night! you calling anyone without your opinion a bottom feeder? a bottom of the pyramid? a Thicko? theres your insults, I honestly can't remember many actually insulting Tim on here!

Hi JVD, I think it could have been tied down in Jan, with a prelim agreement, or a signed LOI/LOR! (legally binding). we could have had LVG or FDB tied down in principle by now!Just think the negotiations should have been done by now mate. Once again we hav embarrassed ourselves with the appointment of, and sacking of Tim Sherwood. lets hope we get some good news before the WC so we can keep our players and attract some quality in the 2 or 3 positions we desperately need to shore up.
Dublin Hotspur
cider, that does not mean he will not manage again. I would certainly not be talking to the likes of Yakin, Laudrup and Martinez until after I had spoken to Rijkaard and Klinsmann, regardless of what has been stated in the press. Capello may well fall in to that list too though he has a huge contract with RMNT until after the next WC. COYS
peterballb
Would be typical if we appoint a manager this week and then Ancelotti gets sacked. Do we wait or go for our available targets now, not sure what is happening with LVG and Man U but based on his latest comments it seems he is distancing himself a bit.
Kong
Don't really care now who it is as long it's not Moyes, Holloway or anyone with the surname Redknapp (and that includes Louise.)
NomoreRedknapp
Cappello is too old i must admit,so younger versions maybe of

) Rudi Garcia – Roma ,,,,He is someone i have liked for ages,he`s a superb manager IMO
Jurgen Klopp – Borussia Dortmund
Antonio Conte – Juventus
Fanny adams
And Phil, I absolutely do not condone that behaviour in any walk of life, especially around kids! Stewards should have been all over those tools / "bottom of the pyramids"! whether you like Boris or not, you don't do that around families on the day it was… was lucky not to come across such behaviour in my experience at the lane last night!
Dublin Hotspur
Tarkan .... misunderstood then, thanks that's good with me. I can only agree with your point of view on that.
longtimespur
Italian completely agree. The A listers will not touch the idiot levy with a barge poll. Its down to the "up and coming" gamble that is pochettino. Or the "successful in holland but looking to make the move into the PL" FDB. Both risks but Levy will have no other takers given his idiotic approach to managing the football side of the business. Whoever it is needs 3 years to build something. Which of course he wont get at the first sign of trouble.
StillRickyVilla
LVG would only be here for a few years, tops and I do not think it would go down well. FDB will not get the time he needs to enact change from within to do things his way. This squad, as it stands, is not a FDB squad.

No manager was going to sign with us in December or January to start in the summer. Why would any agent commit to us when more lucrative deals may be available in the summer. You just don't do that. And if you want to, you pay an agent who won't let you do that. COYS
peterballb
Great post Redknapp!!!!

Got a sneaky feeling LVG might be back on the list! what price Tarkan…gotta be worth a tenner. maybe he was playing us to play ute to play us and get more dosh and power! gotta respect that!
Dublin Hotspur
LVG, King as understudy? bring it back on
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, LVG will want to manage Man U, only if that fails to materialise he will look at us. Strong possibility that Man U are dragging their heels waiting on the Ancelotti situation, personally I think Ancelotti is a better fit for them.
ItalianYiddo
PJ, for LVG it was retirement or a blast at the perm for 2 or 3 years, with the intention of bringing someone along to take over the helm. we discussed that might have been Tim, but now could be Ledley. Its a hobby for him now, with some glory and fireworks to go out with>

I don't remember ever abusing Tim BTW. wanted him out and wrote an article on the topic, but never abused him! I haven't noticed any abuse on here. Dim is not abuse, (Never used that term BTW apart from once in jest as to whether it should be Harry enfolds character or South Parks (and that was in Jan) that we should refer to him as) and to be honest, Dim is the worst I've seen. certainly not seen anyone suggest he deserved sodomy, like a previous poster stated Robbie Soldado should experience. That was abuse, all Tim has had is honest analysis of performance and media attributes by some of the faithful who choose to post on here.
Dublin Hotspur
@PJ, absolutely, we must as a club always try to improve, and to progress forwards. My feeling at the start of every season since HR is that we should at the very least be competing for top 4. Since HR left, well no doubt about it, we have regressed, AVB's appointment wasn't right for us, and TS was a 5 month interim.

The trouble is that there are too many people who think that you can throw a "name" in to the mix, and it all magically happens overnight. Spurs have the scars to prove otherwise. Ossie, Hoddle, Gross, Graham, Santini, Ramos, AVB, all big named mangers, who carried high expectation, their common trait is that they all failed, even though GG and Ramos won us the LC. Comparatively speaking, our most successful managers in recent history were those that came without the expectation. Jol guided us to two 5th places, and HR got us into the CL. At the time, nobody expected great things from either, and in HR's case, we all just hoped that he'd save us from relegation. Since HR, we have got caught up again in this never ending maelstrom of unreasonable expectation resulting in what we have now.

Some of the current most successful managers in the PL have had humble beginnings. Martinez and Rogers are examples, even Pellegrini spent years managing little known of clubs in Chile and Argentina before moving on to the more fashionable European "giants". Of the names mentioned, we need somebody who has PL experience, and really understands English football, I'd prefer somebody who has had at least more than 5 years of management experience, even if some of it isn't at the top level, and preferably somebody who knows how to manage a transfer window with or without a DOF. For me, that excludes, FDB, Poch and Yakin, Low as well. Pele 10 not a bad shout though, he could also double as chief contractor for the new stadium:), Laudrup could be good and Benitez would probably be my first choice if we could get him.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
PJ, I agree, this is a big decision and if wrong will set us back, we still have a good enough squad to make a go of things next season with the right manager and additions. You are right about London.
Kong
PJ 1882 said we should call him phil, thought you were the same PJ, sorry if its not you. pjcoys1998 it is so!
Dublin Hotspur
Benitez maybe quirky enough to accept the challenge of levy and spurs. Again the problem is he comes with loads of baggage and his style both on and off the field will divide opinion right from the off. Given time and support he would get results - I doubt he would get either at spurs.
StillRickyVilla
It is a big decision Kong and pjcoys1998. I pray levy gets it right. We all have different views on this but the most important view is that of DL, and he has to spend to get what we need. I am putting my trust n him to do this, and hope he knows best!
Dublin Hotspur
one thing i love about rafa is he is always up for a challenge,no job is too small for him and at one stage contemplated managing wba after inter milan
tarkan mardinCOYS
PJ, now Sherwood is sacked I don't think you will get banned as often as you won't be defending him anymore.
Kong
pjcoys-even after it was announced today that tim was leaving,a certain poster started a diatribe against him
tarkan mardinCOYS
pjcoys, I remember tophobunty calling a tool and a ***** is does this qualify as abuse or insult? I remember him playing the victim for getting multiple bans. What are your views on this?
ItalianYiddo
"calling AVB"
ItalianYiddo
andwhats with all this banning crap,since ive been posting a week a go ive seen nothing from any one that has justified a ban.
tarkan mardinCOYS
pjcoys1998…TIC. He is a winner and wants to develop a team with potential. do you not listen to what the man says! Manure became attractive to him because they failed this year, and have a transition ahead. He doesn't like to buy in, (Like FDB) he likes to develop, from youth, to coaches to seniors! thats why I always wanted him. (and FDB)
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, I think he has it sussed this time - here's hoping. I am so glad that TS has gone....GONE... I am just going to try to go with the flow... an agreement could have been reached already who knows the new boss may be busy - hopefully somewhere in the far east.... I don't he'll wait for any big guns - can you imagine the slaughtering he'll get if waits that long?!!! Btw glad to know you remember the post that we communicated on all those months ago... get the interpol out!!! I'm just going to wait now ... decision time on Friday i think!!!
Highgatespur
Llorris, Vrthonghen and Paulinho came to Spurs with no CL.
ItalianYiddo
PJ, it is going to be an interesting summer, it is never dull for us spurs fans.
Kong
top 4 is essentially now impossible, who are we going to replace??? Man city and Chelsea are certainties, Arsenal will probably continue to get the job done until they need to replace Arsene, and now a resurgent Liverpool if they keep there squad together and improve on it should be challenging for the title again. man united cant possibly do as bad as this season either. Everton will lose most of there team when they are recalled by there parent clubs lol. we need to go all out and win the Europa league, it's our best and most likely ticket to champions league.
spurs-stelios
Murat Yakin.
jesusthedevil
No more bans, no more insults or abuse. all cyber mates from here on in hopefully!
Dublin Hotspur
thfc, my money is on Pochettino, cheap and willing option.
ItalianYiddo
cheerio Tim...can leave with his head held high and a win % to brag about...he can now go and learn his trade and who knows perhaps one day he'll be ready to come back...I'm sure he would always help us out if we got caught short, after all he'll remember us fondly for giving him his break and a chance to learn on the job at the highest level...I'm sure he'll always feel eternally grateful to Spurs for that...
shedboy2
So the mood in the dressing room will have been lifted...the players can go on Holiday with spring in their step! Let's hope we can get a manager in to keep it there...
shedboy2
I am sure the media will want Sherwood in employment, loads to talk and write about.
ItalianYiddo
If Roy's Wrecks get knocked out by the end of the group stage will it put him in the frame for the poison chalice of Spurs? If so, I don't want him either. If his England team choice is anything to go by he wouldn't pick anybody with a Spurs shirt on.
NomoreRedknapp
Dublin, i think you are falling into what your countrymen are famed for - the eternal optimists.... take care
Highgatespur
Pj, why are u always getting banned? Not blowing smoke up your ass but i actually like your posts and find a lot of truth in them.
spurfect one
does it matter who we get, A class or B class, if levy plays the same game. if we have a bad start, do we sack again or hire, if we fin 5th next season do we sack or back. or is it a case of top 4 or your are gone
123spurs
123, we have to look beyond where we finish at the end of the season, we have to look at building foundations and look to build on to it for the next season. Three year plan and Levy to keep his nose out.
ItalianYiddo
Spurfect, Highgate. Completely disagree that my first sentence agrees with u. Care to enlighten?

He wasn't given a 18month contract per se; he was given a 18 month contract with get out clause at 6 months. It makes the club LESS of a laughter stock than it would have have if it was pure 18 months contract.That's my taking on it . Take care
Highgatespur
thats right 123,whoever we get should really be getting a 1 year deal because its top 4 or bust
tarkan mardinCOYS
In my opinion Levy is on last chance saloon, he gets this appointment wrong the knives will be out like he has never felt before!
spurfect one
but thats my point, ive said it before can we keep the same manager for 3 years, next season we fin 6th following 5th/6th....then 3rd year we manager to get 3rd/4th, can we wait that long, no1 can predict the future but if that was it would we take it instead of changing manager?
123spurs
Highgate, fair enough mate, have you got any links that confirm this?
spurfect one
Cleveland, what exactly have Rodgers and Martinez won? Neither have performed with a large squad and neither have managed a squad in four competitions. Next year is their proving ground. Will they do as well as Laudrup with Swansea or Hodgson with Fulham or will they tumble down the table as they drop out of all the cups. Won't be the first next great managers to go down with the ship. It is a whole different challenge they face next year. Let's see how that goes. Laudrup has proven what he can do. Rogers and Martinez are as likely to succeed as Moyes and Pochettino. All are crap shoots IMO. COYS
peterballb
PJ, you don't have a view on someone insulting one manager but you have a view on people insulting another, that is sadly covenient. Not a case of do as I preach not as I do?
ItalianYiddo
Ok highgate, i see the break clause and although it makes a bit more sense it still does not make us less of a laughing stock, i am talking about the way the whole season has been handled. Take care mate and thanks for the responses.
spurfect one
agree peter, liverpool got lucky no injuries no europe an man utd failed for 1st time ever in top 4 and we were just shocking, its like the 2nd season is the hardest, just ask reading and laudrup
123spurs
Thfc1882whl, you do a great disservice to Fergie and Arsene. Both had demonstrated that they could compete domestically and in Europe with a level of success. Both had resumes that showed they were able to manage squads and compete above their heads. Ramos and AVB have that too. Neither were given the time needed to get the job done. Ramos, in one season in the PL won as many trophies as Harry has done in over two decades. None of the accomplishments of Rodgers, Pochettino, Moyes, Martinez suggests they can do what Ramos and AVB have done. They are just up and coming managers with lots of potential. Perhaps they will realize it like Bale did or perhaps they'll be the next can't miss that falls in to history like Jon Bostock. They have proven nothing yet. COYS
peterballb
And if the next hire is done on potential, we should have stuck with AVB. COYS
peterballb
http://tottenhamonmymind.wordpress.com An excellent article summing up our season and Levy's involvement very well
Big Ron
Big ron, a lot of home hitting truths in that article, an article some of the Levy apologists should read.
spurfect one
Tarkin, the banning goes back to previous comments under previous pseudonyms. Get banned, change call name, get caught out and get banned again. Repeat, repeat, repeat. So, the previous bannings were all probably justified though I am against bans. Much more for ignore those who cater to lowest common denominator. COYS
peterballb
Guys- dunno if this has been mooted, apologies if so...what about that German we had some 'ITK' about a few weeks back, Nigel Tufnell or whatever his name was...Teufel, I think...the Mainz guy....anything extra on that Coops and you ITK blokes?
Brown-Baker-Henry
'The Mainz guy' is Thomas Tuchel, who left the club on May 11th after asking to be released from his contract. I believe Mainz were reluctant to let him go, but I may be wrong about that.
O'Brien
sprurfect - totally agree with the whole season - especially the December event and what happened after.... here is the attached to explain further...

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/307433.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-statement-tim-sherwood-130514/

Take care
Highgatespur
I’m not quite sure why so many are eliminating potential managers because they have not won anything. There was a time when every manager in the history of the game had not won anything. Whoever we get will be a risk, so I’d be quite happy with a promising young manager who could found a dynasty! But don’t ask me who as there are people much more qualified than me to find them!
Geofspurs
Thomas Tuchel is a very good young manager but inexperienced especially at this level. He has a very idealistic approach in his football philosophy with a great deal of emphasis on team building and unity. I have no doubt that in a few years he will be highly regarded but right now I don't think he will be given any serious consideration. Too high risk.
notnats
For me id like to see FDB given a chance, this young manager has done fantastically well at Ajax. Some people seem to think that Ajax just have to turn up to win the eredivisie but before he took over they hadn't won it since 2004. Four titles on the trot is an impressive achievement by anyone's standards it shows consistency, stability, team unity and a winning mentality. This from a young man who hails from a club famous for its traditions, attractive football, youth development, what are we waiting for get him in.
notnats
Nonats I must say FdB certainly seems to tick most of the boxes.....fingers crossed...
Brown-Baker-Henry
I wonder how long the whole process will take? It would be nice to have the new manager and coaching staff in place within a week or so. We can then start thinking about those couple of new signings that would plug a couple of squad gaps. FDB would be an interesting signing as he has previously managed Vertonghen and Eriksen - perhaps a catalyst to ensure Vertonghen stays and wears the armband? It's important Baldini gets off to a fast start in the summer as well. We have to make some key decisions on Brad, Gomes, Naughton, Khumalo, Hall, Fryers, Kaboul, Ekotto, Dawson, Rose, Livermore, Mason, Obika, Falque, Soldado, Adebayor etc. It would be the most frustrating thing in the world for FDB to get to WHL and be told we already have over 30 senior pro's and he has to sell to create space before buying.
muttley
Highgate.. Sherwood was appointed as tempoary manager till end of season... 6 months. But he agitated for a longer deal, which Levy gave, but still kept the 6 months clause. Simple, and Sherwood gets his win, win gamble....the payoff he wanted... or another year in the job.
Block D Spurs
Rumour has it that Levy met Poch yesterday and the meeting went very well.
cider spurs
Cider - I hope Levy intends to meet some of the other candidates too. My concern with Pochettino is his ability to win over the serial sulkers in the squad. Is he a 'big enough name' to convince the likes of Vertonghen, Lloris and Adebayor to stay and give 100%? If not, will he be a big enough draw to encourage new top class talent to come to Spurs? I'm not sure the answer to either of those questions is yes. He may well turn out to be a very good manager but I think it will take him at least 2 or 3 seasons to get things rolling at Spurs. Those seasons could be very testing and we know what we're like at Spurs when things aren't going in line with our inflated expectations. I suppose if at least the football is tactically astute, fast, flowing, attacking and on the floor he might buy himself some time.
SpuriousLife
Levy out.
Uskok
Spurious...I don't think anything will be happening concerning appointments until after the Champions league final. There was an article published last night by Darren Lewis of the Mirror stating that the likes of Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Vertonghen and Lloris had said that if Sherwood stayed, they would not.

It also goes on to say that Levy was furious with Sherwood for continually criticising the club about his situation in the media, although asked not to.
cider spurs
cider-have these so-called players given levy an assurance that they will stay if tim is removed?
tarkan mardinCOYS
i bet you they will try to weedle their way out of the club.i dont believe any of this.this is what the cretin daniel levy will have us believe to justify the sacking.
tarkan mardinCOYS
Cider - I think you're right. Levy has done part of the job by getting rid of Sherwood but he now has to appoint the right manager to ensure players like Lloris, Vertonghen, Capoue etc want to stay and will give 100% for the team and the club. Is Pochettino that man?
SpuriousLife
tarkan...Only reporting what info is about. Personally I believe Sherwood's sacking gives us a greater chance of retaining talent. Clean slate if you like. However, it will mean for nothing if we get the next appointment wrong.
cider spurs
i think gary lineker hit the nail on the head with his tweet-they couldnt handle his bombastic style
tarkan mardinCOYS
if daniel wanted a statesman like politically-correct speaker we should have got david pleat back.COYS
tarkan mardinCOYS
and im sure this is the reason harry redknapp was got rid off.what a joke
tarkan mardinCOYS
I believe that the Mirror article that Cider mentioned does have substance. Player power probably had some say in the sacking but like Tarkan says will those players stay anyway even with a new manager.
Kong
Tarkan, did you not see anything wrong with how Sherwood was conducting himself?
Kong
ADEBATOR & BALLOTELLI STRIKERS FOR NEXT SEASON...
Yidmarks
Some rumours stating that our owner wants Pochettino but the chairman wants Benitez.
Kong
kong-tbh i found him a breath of fresh air,in an age where we have boring cliche ridden press conerences.no way did he bring the club in disrepute or anything like that.
tarkan mardinCOYS
Fair enough Tarkan, I understand where you are coming from.
Kong
Short list has to be as follows:

1. LVG
2. FDB
3. Martinez
4. Laudrup

If Spurs don't sign one of these four I think I'm going to be pretty disappointed.
RyanHotSpur
For the record, Pochettino is not my first choice to be our next gaffer. But the number of posts pointing out that he can't speak english is annoying and completely ill-informed. He DOES speak English, and very well too. But he does this in training sessions and behind closed doors. This has been confirmed by dozens of journalists and also all of the playing staff when they are interviewed. His reason for conducting his media duties through an interpreter is because he is (quite correctly) conscious of a slight error in grammar becoming lost in translation and being mis-quoted. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
Surely it has to be Laudrup right? He is FREE, won something in England and has done well in all the teams he has managed...

Surely a no brainer right? Surely he is better than Pochettino?
taniban
I'd take Laudrup over Pochittino any day of the week, buts whens Levy ever made a logical managerial choice other than Harry Redknapp.
coys1717
me too,if the choice was just between these 2
tarkan mardinCOYS
thfc1882whl, sums up the whole situation at THFC with Levy's worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC chairman since world war 2, and his highest coaches per season percentage of any THFC chairman (10 in 15 seasons) in the clubs entire history... "THFC is Levys dangerous dog, without it he's nothing more than an average land economist/venture capitalist hitching a ride on the coat tails of of his permatanned uncle Joe. The only thing that you know for sure is that Levy will once again get it wrong and will once again be forgiven by the army of idiots who think that greatness is measured in £'s rather than trophies."
Pele10
Michael Laudrup...Are you sure?.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/media/184353/michael-laudrup-leaves-swansea-amid-rumours-of-dressing-room-cliques-poorly-timed-trips-to-paris-and-general-ill-discipline.html
cider spurs
only in comparison to Pochintino Cider, Laudrup definitely not in my top 5
coys1717
Block D, I know - I was just explaining to Spurfect one....
Highgatespur
I favour de Boer....has the gravitas and playing history, has managed a big club for several years, has won things, can develop players, has good communication skills, has managed Verts and Eriksen before...is still young enough to learn and develop....success in europe is bit of a red herring...but he can learn from his CL experiences...not sure how Mopo stacks up on European mgt?
shedboy2
Shedboy-Great point regarding MP and Europe, the guy has no experience balancing squads or rotating them.
coys1717
PJ - yeah lets think slightly longer term though, say he does by some miracle qualify for top 4? do we know if he'll be able to maintain it? the answer is no we dont, because the only experience he would have gained by then would be the as you mentioned the 'Sunday pup group teams'.
coys1717
PJ-Heh, we'd better consider Jesus then.
coys1717
Benfica boss...
coys1717
Neil Warnock thinks Pocho does not have enough experience to handle Spurs. I can see his point but it's down to the expectations of the board. I still cannot see Pocho getting this job. We just need to be patient and see if Benitez, LVG or FDB become available. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
I think that Levy, knowing the consequences if he gets it wrong will go for the safe option Benitez. Personally I would give it to de Boer (if he wants it) and give him time to get things right
DoncasterHotspur
Posted on the other aritcle but looks like this one is still in vogue:

I agree with the sentiments in the article shown towards Sherwood, he did seem to care and I wish him all the success in the future,,,, (apart from with any other high profile London clubs of course). I would like to say though I do not think he has been hard done by. I see it as he was given an exceptional opportunity to manage a top 6 premier league club for his first ever managerial appointment, and he produced a good but not exceptional return. His win ratio was good and results and goals improved. He handling of players was questionable however and would send warning signs out about how he would fair in the transfer market. The club were wise to structure in a break clause and the way this was kept quiet shows an obviously level of mutual respect. I would like to see a proven winner at the club and hope it is Rafa Benitez. Not only would he be a perfect fit for us but we would be a perfect fit for him at this stage of his career. Times change and we have to move with them, we can no longer afford to 'want to play the spurs way' if that means we only come 5th or 6th....We need a winner!!
T.H.F.Chris
PJ. just a simple question on double standards, nothing to do with fixation. You don't want to answer it, no problem, but I will bring it up every time you have the audacity to lecture others insulting whoever.
ItalianYiddo
Pooch getting the job will split the fans and we will be back to square one
Rapm
Its a no from me.
Rapm
I'm voting for other...."patience"....season isn't fully over. World cup to come......my top 5 ....1/ J'klinsmann 2/J'Low 3/T'Pulis 4/M'Laudrup 5/ FdBoer.
82spursdebut
Look, the hiring of someone with no success and experience balancing clubs in Europe and domestically is fraught with problems. It has nothing to do with splitting the fans. The problem is, there is no benefit of the doubt. If LVG, or Mancini, or Benitez or Ancelotti come in and hit hard times early, who is going to dare to question their methods? They have all won trophies we dream of competing for, and have done so in different leagues. Their methods and their success is proven. They will be given the benefit of the doubt. Pochettino, FDB, Martinez, Moyes just don't have the levels of success and experience. People keep citing FDB's success but it has all been domestic and one look at the player stats for this season will show that the club participated in 43 games this season and 11 players factored in 32 or more of those games. It is not possible, in four competitions to lean on the same players twice a week. This take experience that he does not have. When he starts winning in Europe and progressing so that he has to manage a large squad, then he will be qualified. Rodgers and Martinez are similarly limited. This next season we will see how they fare. Do not be surprised if they both tumble down the table. It is not easy. Most managers don't have the abiity to manage the game and the season at the same time. Harry had us in relegation form two years runing in Feb/Mar/Apr because he did not know how to rotate. That inexperience, even for an old hand, cost us CL the two seasons following our qualification. Sam Allardyce does not have the experience either and would not be a suitable coach. Hodgson, for all that people make fun of him, has done it and managed to do it with some degree of success. We need a manager with the success and experience that will allow Levy and the fans to give him the room and time he needs to get the job done. Pochettino, if not successful from the off, will be out and round and roud we go. We need an A-list manager now. This is not the time to scrimp on the money. e have a squad that is valued at 250M. Surely that deserves a cerain level of management. COYS
peterballb
i wonder if man utd are waiting to see if ancelotti might become available.I dream they sign LVG and then he leaves Madrid and we nick him.
topspur53
Wow, Peter, tough to argue with anything you say...the only comeback might be that A-list managers have to break in somewhere....winning anywhere, though should surely count?...I agree Hodgson, for example is a better manager than most give him credit for, EL final with Fulham...but, re your first sentence: it's all fraught with problems......the only time this century I've thought 'Yes!!' when we appointed someone was Harry...that seemed the perfect fit....don't get that feeling from any of these candidates......Tops, is there actually a chance we could pay the kind of money Ancelotti demands and that he'd come?
Brown-Baker-Henry
 

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