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Tim Out? (Updated to Out!)

If we believe some reports in the media, Tim Sherwood could be sacked today.

Of course this could once again be rubbish and Levy might for all we know, might be very happy to see Tim carry on, but that seems less and less likely with every day that passes. I imagine that Sherwood himself will want to know his position quickly, as there are plenty of potential vacancies he might want to be considered for, such as WBA, Norwich and Brighton. Saying that, would be be shocked for levy to sit tight in the hope that he can gain some compensation from a suitor, despite knowing he wants to replace Tim anyway.

Though I like Sherwood and feel he has done a very decent job in very difficult circumstances, I feel that Levy will be looking to take the easy, and who knows the best option in replacing an unpopular manager for one that will excite the fans and hopefully appease the dressing room. If the pressure is on Sherwood and Levy now, what would happen if we start next season slowly? At that point, it will also be much harder and no doubt expensive to recruit a top quality manager and Levy really can`t afford another compromise and ultimate failure.

With the season over and Ledley King having a great send off, it is believed that Sherwood and Levy will have a little chat and I`m sure a frank exchange will take place. Though Sherwood might have perhaps over emphasised issues in pre and post match comments, I actually think he was spot on in the vast majority of his words and for that he should have been applauded instead of being crucified by so many. I can imagine if a new and big named man had replaced AVB and said the same things, we would have all claimed he was right and blamed the players, but the reality is that too many people don`t like Tim.

Whether we will quickly see Pochettino get the nod and to be fair he has handled the speculation very well, and does seem ready to walk regardless, as his position hasn`t seemed quite so certain since the departure of Nicola Cortese in January. Will Frank De Boar finally decide the timing is right to leave the comfort of Ajax and test himself in a tougher league or will the much talked of love of all things English be a reason why Rafa Benitez leaves Napoli?

Though Levy has made some pretty big calls in hiring and firing managers, could this one be the one that puts most pressure on his own position? Though the likes of Harry Redknapp had done well, there were reasons for the parting of the ways. This time, you feel that Levy took and punt on backing Sherwood and to remove him after five months, is a call that for me will define his time as Chairman at Tottenham Hotspur...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Tuesday May 13 2014
Time: 10:00AM

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Yes I heard yesterday that he will be sacked in the nxt 48hrs......Hope we appoint FDB this week.
Ossie
13/05/2014 10:02:00
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today we should find out whether he goes or stays,i think its closer than a lot of people are making out
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:04:00
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i am hearing 11.00gmt
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:06:00
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Rumours have already starting to circulate on twitter claiming Sherwood has been sacked. A decision needs to be made and announced soon of either Sherwood is staying or going so we can move on.
Kong
13/05/2014 10:09:00
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twitterati is saying to be sacked in the next hour.just hope tim is told before everybody else knows,show a bit of class tottenham
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:14:00
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TS will surely be visiting Levy’s office very soon, but will it be to get the sack, or to get his wish .... a 10 year contract!!
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 10:17:00
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Tarkan, it was leaked a month ago that Tim was leaving. Sherwood must know what is going on.
Kong
13/05/2014 10:18:00
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Yeah im hearing it’s an 11am meeting. Whether or not it’s the final or deceive meeting is still unknown. Whatever the outcome TS has been harshly treated by fans and the club (myself included) and I do think he has taken the brunt of everyone’s frustrations. If he does go I am just praying it’s not pochettino. I don’t care if people say im writing him off before he start but there is good reason to do so. He’s achieved bugger all. Im very concerned that when you consider how things usually leak out of THFC the only names in contention at the moment are FDB & Pochettino. Considering what happened with us and FDB last week that only leaves Pochettino on the table. I will be sick as a dog if we end up with Him. Honestly would prefer to keep TS.
hudderspur
13/05/2014 10:27:00
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Unfortunately Levy has no class! Talk of Pochetino I find underwhelming and would Rafa really want to work with Levy having fallen out with the the then cowboys who owned Liverpool over lack of investment...maybe he would think Levy is a cowboy with a white hat? For me I hope it is De Boer (note the spelling Ox, although I like yours if he makes a pig's ear of things) and another project of hopefully much shorter duration than AVB's. One of the pundits talking about Pellegrini and City's inability to win away at the start of the season made the point that foreign managers as well as players need time to adjust to the Premier League, so if it is FDB time will be needed but I would expect tangible improvements in the second half of nest season. FDB is young enough to build a dynasty if he is given time and some money. Rafa may be a safer choice due to his previous EPL experience and success but he doesn't seem to last very long. Anyway I doubt we will hear anything definite from Levy for several weeks as he screws around looking for a deal, unless of course one has been done already....I can dream.
Harry-Kari
13/05/2014 10:28:00
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hudderspur, agree with your last sentence.
Harry-Kari
13/05/2014 10:31:00
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Levy can we have a settled club for next season and beyond and please bring in a top coach who knows how to get the best out of the players we have? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
13/05/2014 10:31:00
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wicked post hudderspur,i concur with everything you have said
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:31:00
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Nice words Ox but let's be honest here. There is a clear majority percentage of THFC supporters who FIRST and foremost think his abilities are not up to championship level, secondly he has no real qualification, thirdly he has been proven to be a problem and a direct influence in previous backstabbing incidents and Ill bet my house he had a direct role in the AVB case. He came in with an arrogance level far beyond his absent CV and a pathetic undertone of "yes I'm the man".... He proved what all of us knew before he even started and he completely cocked up nearly every on camera interview he ever made! Last night at the Kings testimonial Dim was boooooooed and justifiably so! A sad affair when one of our legends has to see that at his own testimonial but secretly I bet even the King himself was happy was chuckling... Dimout!
Mix26
13/05/2014 10:34:00
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My hat is in the Rafa camp, then FDB, then about 10-12 others, then Pochetino.
coys1717
13/05/2014 10:37:00
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If the choice is between Mopo and Tim...then kiss goodbye to the aspiration of joining the big clubs....one is making mistake after mistake and the other, well less than exciting but seems competent, is that enough?
shedboy2
13/05/2014 10:37:00
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mix-i heard that he was booed by a section yesterday,absolutely disgracefull behaviour
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:38:00
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Good point Ox. Whilst frustrations are directed at Sherwood, Levy once more is excluded somewhat from the firing line. It really is time to give him both barrels the same as Sherwood received if he get's this next appointment wrong or continues with twitchy finger syndrome.

Whilst Tim wanted the role, and to be fair, if we judge him on results alone (top 4, W.ham aside) he has been steady, it is Levy's incompetence that sees us forever directing our displeasure at the manager. Give us the right manager Levy, this is your remit, and one that you alone should now be held totally responsible for from a vocal fan base as opposed to the manager all the time. Far too often Levy has removed himself from blame, time to give him a rough ride if we fail once more.
cider spurs
13/05/2014 10:39:00
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coys1717- similar view from me....it depends on what level of investment we can make though if we don't have a lot of £ (and evidence suggests we don't) then I'd go De Boer....
shedboy2
13/05/2014 10:40:00
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i have a feeling pochettino will not satisfy the fans
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:48:00
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We'll probably go true to form, get rid of Sherwood today and then announce nothing about a new manager for a couple of weeks. Levy will hope getting rid of Sherwood will be enough to get people to renew their season tickets (deadline this Friday by the way) and then, once season ticket sales hit an acceptable level, he'll announce Pochettino as the new manager to general disgruntlement from the fans. By then it won't matter though because they'll have paid up their money for next season already! Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it goes along these lines.
SpuriousLife
13/05/2014 10:48:00
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Shedboy-I think we will have a bit of cash, our squad needs trimming and refining, dont think Pocehtino is going to be able to maintain Southampton's league finishes after he looses Lallana and Shaw and maybe Rodriguez. I'd rather see Pulis come in and take a crack over Pocehnitono, seems like ANOTHER completely unnecessary gable.
coys1717
13/05/2014 10:50:00
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llalana to the bindippers,shaw to manure,lovren to arsenal,i predicted a cull at southampton a while back.no doubt the job appeals to mopo
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:51:00
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tarkan whilst I found it very inappropriate and pretty embarrassing to say the least, but I cant help thinking our supporters have to drop to that level to make their feelings known about him.
Mix26
13/05/2014 10:52:00
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very cynical SpuriousLife,but probably true
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 10:53:00
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someone outside wht has texted me sherwood and ferdinand seen driving into the ground at 11.08
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 11:09:00
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Spurious – Sad but true. I think that is exactly how it will go down. Sherwood “relieved” of his duties. Then radio silence for the next few weeks. The problem is there is nothing we can do about it until people simply stop renewing their ticket. Like I’ve said before, the only way to reach Lewis and the rest of the board is through there wallet. I can’t wait for TS to come out and tell it like it is at spurs, what really goes on behind the scenes. I don’t think it will be pretty.
hudderspur
13/05/2014 11:10:00
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spurs did invent the concept of permanent transition so i heard
SpursWho
13/05/2014 11:10:00
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whl not wht
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 11:10:00
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coys1717- you'd think we would have some cash having made about 40m profit on transfers in the past few years whilst not spending any of the revenue we generated in that time on new transfers....but there's the rub..why? why when CL was staring us in the face we couldn't buy better than Saha and nelson, we couldn't buy a LB last year etc...seems the stadium is taking our resources away from the 1st team...hopefully we have saved some of the TV money!
shedboy2
13/05/2014 11:10:00
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hudderspur- TS- won't be saying anything..like AVb and even old Arry...he will be bound by a settlement agreement..
shedboy2
13/05/2014 11:16:00
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I'm awaiting the news in anticipation. Brighton would be a good job for Tim, might have some legs for him there. I'll take anyone to be honest, and support them as long as we don't get repeats of this season! I'm Gunning for FDB, then Benitez.
I'll take Poch to be honest. I think he got his young stars to shine for him amongst a shallow and mediocre squad in general. The 4 or 5 that are being touted for big money moves, really played lovely football under his guidance and motivational skills. He definitely raised their profiles and price tags. the rest of the squad are ordinary so he did a good job getting the team to where they are, especially with the leadership turmoil that happened earlier in the season. He stuck by his guns, and stayed faithful to his team and fans.
I wonder what he could do with our squad, the depth and quality that is lurking within it. He would be the right man to get Lamella going. He is good with younger players, of which we have many (I think due to us not likely to be buying many more during the stadium build - hence the number of youngsters brought in). He will need to shore up his defensive tactics, but then, he didn't really have any quality in his southampton side's back line.
MoPo could be good for us, not the Elite appointment I am praying for (ala Martinez, Ancelloti, AVB) but not the worst option out there (Keeping Tim, Moyes, Pulis etc). Prob third on my list.
Dublin Hotspur
13/05/2014 11:18:00
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I feel Tim will be leaving us for pastures New. I had the pleasure of Meeting Tim quite often outside Swindon whilst he was watching the boys play and the impression I got was he loved being the Technical Director of youth. Can he go back to this position after running the first team? personally i think not. What I do feel is that the 18 month contract was essentially a 6 month stop gap to help out Levy in selecting a replacement and the 1 year being a "Thank you for your services" golden handshake. I have gone on record loads of times saying I will support whoever Levy selects. I'd like to see FDB be part of the "project" however with AVB he was part also - a project is time driven so feel we shall more than likely see Benitez at the lane soon....who knows? COYS!!!
YT_Boy
13/05/2014 11:20:00
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BREAKING NEWS-david moyes seen entering whl
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 11:21:00
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Adding to my comment would hope we dont see Poncetti (Spelling?) as the language barrier could be an issue - Benitez is fluent in Several Languages and would really bring out the best in most of our young team - Hmmmm I'm talking myself into Benitez!
YT_Boy
13/05/2014 11:24:00
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Tarkan - are you kidding me?
YT_Boy
13/05/2014 11:25:00
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Tarkan, did your mate text you that as well? He must be a comedian.
Kong
13/05/2014 11:25:00
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kong-the bit about tim driving in is true just joking about david moyes
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 11:26:00
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Hudderspur - I've made a promise to myself that I will not renew my season ticket until the manager situation is resolved. The deadline is this Friday so we don't have long. If Sherwood stays I won't be renewing. If Sherwood goes but we don't announce our next manager before Friday I will still not renew. This time Levy has to make a decision and have it in place before Friday or else I will no longer be a season ticket holder. No doubt many will say I'm cutting my nose off to spite my face but I've had enough of being strung along by a chairman who increasingly makes me feel like a walking wallet and nothing else.
SpuriousLife
13/05/2014 11:27:00
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Tarkan, if the meeting was meant to be at 11 then Sherwood was late :).
Kong
13/05/2014 11:28:00
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haha kong,i suppose you would be right
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 11:29:00
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Disagree agree with the suggestion that removing Tim after 5 months would put Levy under pressure. If Tim was viewed as temporary all the long, then isn't a case of it working out as planned...? AVB had to be removed - 1st season had the points, goals, but not the entertainment, 2nd season lost the points and goals also... Hiring manager midseason was what Spurs were doing wrong in the 90s... A sequence of mediocre managers due to rushing into replacements. Plus those appointments were often requiring compensation to be paid to the new guy's old club. Then you pay him off when you sack him too. At least with Tim, there was no compensation, presumably a low salary and merely a year to pay off - due to his short-term contract. Levy wanted Tim to deputise, but Tim demanded a proper contract, so this was the only way to make it happen. In the meantime, Levy had ample time to target a successor. Given that 4th place was 79 points, 4th place was beyond us after such a poor start to the season. May as well pad the season out with Tim and then (for once) get the right guy in.... We can only hope. Whilst Tim made some odd decisions, said some odd things, and at times Spurs were poor with his tactics, the fact is that he matched a 72 point season rate. So he did not bring us down. But time to get the right guy. If Tim showed more willingness to accept when wrong, and ability to learn, I would have been ok for him to stay on. But Chadli in centre with Sandro/Capoue on bench, and Siggy left is just not going to progress us.
TonyRich
13/05/2014 11:32:00
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Kong, thats an early start for Tim. I believe he wasnt around Enfield much before 9 at all.
Dublin Hotspur
13/05/2014 11:32:00
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Disagree agree...?
TonyRich
13/05/2014 11:34:00
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Enic have continued in the Alan Sugar tradition of inept managerial appointments. The problem is not the dismissals, they were almost all justified, but that they should never have been appointed in the first place.It takes a very experienced manager to cope with Tottenham. Redknapp was not the full package but he was the closest we have come to getting it right. We need somebody like Benitez with a real thick skin.Pochettino is nowhere near experienced enough and lost twice to Tim, a manager some on here do not rate
cynicspur
13/05/2014 11:36:00
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If the alternative is Pochettino then I say, why not Tim? I don't want a guy at Spurs that fans will call MoPo! MoFo anyone, when we loose? MoFo out!
MAN ON!
13/05/2014 11:36:00
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Benitez boring football.De Boer-what Dutch manager has done well in England?Pochetinno -8th with small squad with a smattering of good but not great players, he's young,progressive,beautiful passing football like Gooners!Uncontroversial, so won't fall out with Levy.This man could build a dynasty based on young players with attacking football.It's a no brainer,he's the stand-out candidate.
Greavesaboveall
13/05/2014 11:38:00
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Not defending Poch but Spurs are a better team and have a much larger squad. Even some have said on VS they could manage Spurs easily and win games. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
13/05/2014 11:40:00
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TonyRich - I concur completely. This is Levy we are talking about. We all know he has usually already done the deal way before anyone else generally knows about it. TS isn't stupid. He knows THFC too well to know that Levy would stick with him with absolutely no Experience. if you are director of youth and DL asked you to hold the fort knowing you couldn't return to your previous role, wouldn't you want a bit of a payout when you're replaced at the end of the season? My bet is Tim will go to Brighton and they'll become a feeder for us and somewhere else we can send players to develop. COYS - ILIT - TTID
YT_Boy
13/05/2014 11:42:00
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Rodgers hadn't won anything when he went to liverpool,but Swansea played the same way as Saints and finished in a similar position.Pochetinno is the next Rodgers if we lose out again, I'm going off the end of Brighton Pier!
Greavesaboveall
13/05/2014 11:43:00
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I think too many are worried about Pochettino has failed to achieve. At the end of the day he has done extraordinarily good with Southampton and taken them further than they ever will have done. In my mind all we need is someone with a football philosophy who will have respect of players. It's that simple. Look how he's got Southampton playing. Imagine what he could do with our higher level of player. I would prefer FDB but believe you me I would be very happy with Pochettino. Maybe we could get the odd Southampton player as well...I'd have about six of their English lads no joke
BrooksySpurs
13/05/2014 11:43:00
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Greavesaboveall grab me a rock while you're there Yum yum! COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
13/05/2014 11:45:00
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Our recent managers are being seen as inept. My simple question is why? Is Levy making bad decisions or is it the supporters, in their lack of support, that's putting the pressure on DL to fire them before they've had a fair chance to succeed? We're down on our managers almost before they walk in the door. What chance do they have? Blame Levy for hiring them but is it really his fault for sacking a guy who the fans don't like, regardless of the football or the results? People are saying anyone will do as long as it's not Sherwood! Really?
MAN ON!
13/05/2014 11:47:00
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Tarkan ... I have a feeling nobody will satisfy the fans.
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 11:49:00
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You maybe right Geof. I just hope the new manager has the experience to deal with the high expectations of the board and fans. The manager of Spurs must play a brand of football that will satisfy the most purist of fans and expect to win gloriously. Not asking much are we :) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
13/05/2014 11:58:00
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Rodgers was on the verge of the sack in 2013 remember, plenty of articles around saying the fans wanted him out. How fickle they are now, praising his manager of the year award. Just goes to show it sometimes takes some patience.
mattspurs1982
13/05/2014 12:00:00
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Greaves – you just can’t compare Rodgers and Pochettino. Rodgers has worked under some of the best managers in the world, had a bumpy start with Liverpool but was given time and resources to put it right. He wouldn’t be given any of that at THFC. In fact he even came out and said he dodged a bullet. Pochettino would need time to adapt to the “spurs way” and because he hasn’t yet got a reputation to fall back on would fail just like the last 10 managers before him. Might not be his faulty but??

Spurious, I agree with you TBH. If I had a season ticket I certainly wouldn’t be renewing with the current situation at spurs. Enough is enough and its time DL listed to the fans.
hudderspur
13/05/2014 12:02:00
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Spurious ... Sorry, but I think it’s a bit extreme to give up your season ticket. I imagine you got the ticket because you have a love of football generally and THFC specifically. Why can’t you continue to enjoy it. I understand your frustration, which we all feel, but there are no guarantees of success, or even progress, in football. Personally, I deal with it by going back to basics, football and THFC, and the emotional roller-coaster ride that is a football club’s journey. Keep your ticket, Mate, the club needs supporters like you. :-)
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 12:02:00
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It always takes patience... Ask the 'rookie' Keith Burkinshaw! Awful football followed by relegation in his first season. Enough said...
MAN ON!
13/05/2014 12:05:00
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greaves-you are articulating the case or mopo very well,he could well be our brendan rodgers but so can tim sherwood
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 12:06:00
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cynic .... I agree that, in recent times, Harry was the closest to getting it right. But, the players he had then were different. How would AVB or TS have done with the players Harry had; and how would Harry have done with the players AVB and TS had? It’s not possible to compare managers because of all the other factors that influence the outcomes.
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 12:08:00
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Is it my imagination or is there an ‘e’ missing from the end of the first word of this article title?!
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 12:16:00
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Sherwood has left
Kong
13/05/2014 12:18:00
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It is official
Kong
13/05/2014 12:18:00
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GONE GONE GONE
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 12:19:00
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my info was correct
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 12:19:00
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Official Statement - We appointed Tim mid-season as someone who knew both the players and the Club. “We agreed an 18-month contract with a break clause at the end of the season and we have now exercised that option. “Since appointing Tim as Assistant First Team Coach in 2008 and then as Technical Co-ordinator in 2010 and Head of Football Development in 2012, we have been supportive of him during football management changes throughout that period. On behalf of the Club, I should like to state our thanks for all his efforts during his years with us. We wish him great success in his managerial career. “Moving forward, now the season is over, we shall embark on the process of finding a new Head Coach. We have a talented squad and exciting young players coming through. We need to build on this season, develop our potential and inspire the kind of performances that we associate with our great Club."
Kong
13/05/2014 12:19:00
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well all those haters got their way
tarkan mardinCOYS
13/05/2014 12:21:00
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YES YES YES
Lee Treend
13/05/2014 12:21:00
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Tim Sherwood has departed.
Airwave
13/05/2014 12:23:00
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Here we go...itk meltdown! COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
13/05/2014 12:24:00
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Thnak you Mr Levy - a few weeks late - done .... now go and get the proper man ... hopefully FdB!!!
Highgatespur
13/05/2014 12:25:00
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James1, very true lol
Kong
13/05/2014 12:25:00
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More gushing coming our way, I fear......... Good luck Mr Sherwood and thank you for your efforts. See you next year in the FA cup final, with whichever club it is you're leading out.... ;-)
MAN ON!
13/05/2014 12:27:00
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I'm just glad all the talk and speculation can end but, like the man said, be careful what you ask for!
Geofspurs
13/05/2014 12:28:00
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FDB for Spurs! He better have us playing like Barca immediately or I'll not be renewing my Oyster card and therefore I won't be getting on the tube to WHL! FDB IN! FDB OUT!
MAN ON!
13/05/2014 12:30:00
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