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And then there was one, or was there?

Once again for the umpteenth time in recent years at THFC, we are deeply embroiled in a manager 'selection' process. It appears in his inimitable fashion, that our esteemed Mr. Levy has once again sacked a manager, without having a replacement in place to step in and provide some continuity, just as he did when he sacked AVB, and was forced into installing Sherwood as caretaker, and subsequently getting backed into a corner, and having to give him an 18 month contract.

We were originally told by all the football pundits and the bookies, in the usual absence of any information from the club, that LVG was cut and dried as Sherwood's replacement, and he would arrive after the WC, although it now appears there was no formal agreement in place to this effect. This of course was scuppered when Man Utd sacked Moyes, and he immediately declared himself as a candidate for that job, and his appointment now looks a formality.

This meant that we would be forced to look elsewhere and the names of 'A' list manager/coaches started to be bandied about, with Frank De Boer, the early front runner, stating contact had been made by Spurs, to be followed with a denial by the club, and De Boer's card probably be marked, and him 'black balled'. Then there were suggestions involving a list of 'possibles' including Ancelotti, Benitez, Martinez, Mancini, etc. etc. all of whom are in secure appointments with other clubs, and are almost certainly all 'impossible".

Then emerged somebody who is allegedly Joe Lewis's preferred candidate, yes Joe Lewis, that much vaunted and respected football pundit and expert, this being Pochittino of Southampton. He is a man who is unspoilt by success in his previous nearly 200 games in charge of Espanyol and Southampton, and has yet to give any indication that he is able to step up and manage at a bigger club, with bigger players, who unfortunately tend to have bigger egos, the club's greater expectation of success, the fans pressure, and the local rivalry, and far greater media attention.

He may of course surprise everybody and become a resounding success, or he may as strongly suggested by his previous lack of achievement, prove to be little if any better than either AVB, or Sherwood, and unable to take us forward. In fact it maybe justifiably asked why, and at the end of the season, what have we gained? It is now reported that Southampton intend to offer him a trebling of his wages, and an improved transfer budget, in a new improved contract, in order to keep him, so it is just possible that he may accept that and stay. If this happens does that mean that there are no eggs left in the basket, and we will have to start again, with whom.

To be candid it appears that nobody is likely to get killed in the rush for this job, there is no fighting over it. It may well be that others are seeing what Brendan Rogers saw, that the manager merry-go-round at Spurs, and the interference by people, with at best very limited football knowledge, offers no security of tenure, or time to succeed. I fear that at the end of this process we will still not have a leader in place, able to get the best out of what is a talented squad of players, and we will not be seeing a tangible improvement in results, or achievement.

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Date:Monday May 19 2014

Time: 9:23AM

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NO!...There was Two. I'm here as well!.
cider spurs
what a beautifull morning.glad to ba alive
tarkan mardinCOYS
Morning all, the latest rumours are that Martino is the preferred choice at that he will be getting boot from Barca. Not sure If believe them or that I would be that happy with Martino TBH.
hudderspur
Basically for Levy and many fans changing managers has become an end in itself, it shows you are "doing something". As the article points out it doesn't actually achieve anything or move the club forward, but hey, if it keeps the fans happy ...
jod
daniel levy could well throw in a curve-ball.i wouldnt put it past him.and martino would be that curveball.a bit of money going on mancini today
tarkan mardinCOYS
If saints offer MoPo the salary and the funds to re-invest from the sales of lallana, Shaw rodriguez etc...I can see him staying...unfortunately we have blown our chance to gatecrash the top of the league in recent years and it looks less likely to happen now and over the next 5 years...we have no money, we haven't spent any new money in what 4 years now? the stadium has impacted our ability to improve on the pitch and so we must now bite the bullet and get a coach like FDB in who can train on our players and keep us competitive for the next 10 years whilst we wait to have any extra revenue to spend on players....
shedboy2
Eveing all (here in Nz) yet again another end of season talking about who is our next manager, soon we will have to go back and start again with the first manager levy employed, most of the names mentioned im happy with apart from one the guy from Southampton, may we get our man in the next week, coys
spurs50yrs
Martino did ok in a turbulent season at the club. The death of Tito being significant. He also worryingly, tried to instil a long ball philosophy, which was too big a change to a team that were playing pure football, and in my opinion was wrong. Mancini has been backed into 8/1 from nowhere! Tim is doing everything he can to paint a poor picture of the club to future suitors through his media buddies!
Dublin Hotspur
Geez well that made my breakfast taste good. Whilst not entirely backing Levy nor finding some mysterious hoodoo why some of the managers at Spurs should have remained in charge, is there really any reason to have backed the previous management? It's fair to say all of them deserved to part ways with the club and have gone on to prove Levy wrong? I don't think so... Yes Levy appointed them but they did put Spurs on the brink and into the CL and subsequently fighting for that place with our closest rivals. I don't for 1 minute believe Levy is not capable of hiring the right man for Spurs, I actually think he is incapable of staying out of the managers affairs which in itself is the managers problem. The manager must work how he feels he can, the THFC managers job is NOT a poison chalice. The THFC managers job would be up their with some of the best positions in the game and if I were a candidate I would definitely want to prove I have the tact, the skills and the mentality to take the job. In all due respect Frank I think we are far from the mockery that was Dim and any manager in the league would be licking his lips to get hold of this squad...
Mix26
Mauricio Pochettino seems to be the best choice for me. Judging him only on the basis of 'win percentage' or 'trophys' is foolish. He has only managed clubs like Español or Southampton. He transformed Español from relegation bound team into comfortable mid table finishers as he has done the same at Southampton. With the squad we have, he can easily replicate that or do better. Because this time he'll have a proper squad (except at lb)
Spursfan08
Expectations!

Same as the type of player we can attract. We need to rein in our status of what we believe ourselves to be. We are not a top 4 club with unlimited spending power, thus, we will at present not be securing elite managers.

Where does that leave us?, pretty much the same as our player recruitment, having to take gambles in the hope we land the gem that blossoms and becomes elite. All manager appointments will be a risk, it's not as bad as some are making out.

Martinez and Rodgers have done quite well this season. Rodgers given time to flourish after a debut 7th place with the Reds. Poch 8th in his debut season should not be under estimated, if he stays at Southampton, we move on to another if he was our 1st choice.

Some slate FDB, who I believe still wants the role, why?, plays the supposed "Spurs way,", integrates youth, continuity from youth all the way through the set up in relation to formation and playing ethos, European experience, domestic success some discount saying they are the strongest team in their league. Years before Ajax won the 1st of 4 titles on the bounce. FDB got them back winning, whilst losing key players may I add.

The point I am making is that there are numerous managers out there who could well be brilliant for Spurs, we just need to give them time, stop this belief that if they are not the elite designer name then they will fail. All managers, elite included have to start somewhere.

Some prosper at certain clubs some don't, I'm only concerned in them prospering at our club. Brendan Rodgers got the boot from Reading not too long ago. He's pants! LOL!.

I'd be happy with any of the following, because they all have their own ideas are experienced at varying levels, but will all bring something to the table hopefully turning into the "elite manager" we desire:-

FDB
Pochettino
Yakin
Tuchel
Benitez
Ancelotti
Martinez

I could add more, but believe there is no need. It is more about backing and having realistic expectations in a sensible timescale as opposed to "I want it all...Now" syndrome. The only time we played the attractive football of late and finished top 4 twice was under the reign of the longest serving manager under Levy, Bale to be considered of course, but look at what was around him, this purely has to be a time issue as much as it is appointment wise.
cider spurs
the indicators are we will be getting the ball rolling this week
tarkan mardinCOYS
sorry, C&P from last thread.

3 quick points: 1)Tim is a media whore as I guessed. Never knew any sacked manager to get so much air time, he must be pulling out all the "repayments" for his media friendly rants! he is dragging the club through the dirt, Levy must be spitting fire! SS yesterday, Talk sport this morning, every paper and radio station. he has a talent alright, PR for himself. 2)Mancini backed into 8/1 from no-where. interesting move in the betting. 3)Need some decision quickly before the WC boys start talking to their compatriots at training camps! finger out DL!

Oh, and a 4th: 4)I hate Arsenal. I hate their pikey players, in particular schknvdzchny, Walnut, and especially that filthy knacker Jack Russell. get a life kids, you may have won the FA cup, but you are all losers!
Dublin Hotspur
everyone chatting about Tims win % around 60% in the media? have they forgotten the cups, and the fact he only "coached" half the matches this season? no basis for a true stat. different teams, H/A factor, different injuries factor, other teams injuries factor! nonsense, but he has certainly pulled enough favours back from the meeja boys! thats enough from me nw on him! just annoys me every time I hear "Tim Sherwood will be here at 8am to discuss his sacking," etc! never known any other manager either get the time on air like this, or to behave like this! Eejit!
Dublin Hotspur
Dim Sherbert "I would like to go on record thanking Tottenham and all those involved at the club, it's been a tough few months and we worked hard to get the best results for the fans. They are a great bunch of players and will do the club proud one day. I had a great opportunity to be in the management seat after Levy put faith in me despite only having coached a few kids and today I feel I can continue with my head held high despite me not continuing on at Spurs"
Mix26
with you Cider, I'm behind whoever is appointed. as long as they are qualified and have some savvy and kudos! Still want FDB now though!
Dublin Hotspur
Well, it is fine to sack a manager when there isn't a replacement in place as long as you are not mid-season. 2 of the last 3 sackings were at the end of the season. Jol, Ramos and AVB were necessary to stop rots. So, I do not blame Levy for the actual sackings themselves....barring AVB which could have been averted by not hiring the guy in the first place. Jol, Harry, Ramos all gave us something substantial (first 5th places, League cup, survival, only 4th places, CL qualification, and CL quarters). But AVB was the wrong guy. He COULD have been the right guy if we were that side when Jol took over. In time, he may of got us going....although we were still of the mindset of "if we are not getting any where near the top four, then at least entertain us", his dull football may not have satiated the fans. But at the time he joined, he needs to provide a bit of both. Anyhow, AVB had no track record to go on in order to truly believe he was the right man. I just believe that he was available, and had some pedigree (trophies, Chelsea) if not the history. Either way, Levy was wrong. If he gets it right this time, then I will happily erase that mistake. JUST GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME LEVY! Track record. Experience of trophies in more than one country. A progressive and adaptive form of football. Someone not so damn rigid at AVB. Someone the players will respect and admire.
TonyRich
Hi Guys ... Looks like Betaleb will have to be player/coach/manager ... that’s the cheapest option!
Geofspurs
As for the defensive issues highlighted by some regarding Poch's formation and ethos. Could it not also be argued that maybe the defensive players available were not at the level required. Shaw aside of course.

That's not to say that our defenders would fair better under his realm, but maybe his playing style is fine but pool of defensive talent sub standard. Could he improve all round with time afforded and the players to execute his philosophy better?.
cider spurs
Nice post Tony
Mix26
Dublin - Tim was saying that he did not think that it would be so short term. But the contract was 1.5 years!! If his cannot see how short-term he looked, then perhaps he does not have the skills of judgement that a manager requires. It was bleeding obvious. He looked temporary BEFORE I found out that it was just a 1.5 year contact. Who sees out the end of their contract these days....? 1.5 years is not a show of confidence. Tim is of the midset of Gerry "We always finished top half, and won 3 out of the last 6" Francis.... Always trying to put the best spin on it, which both allows you to hide certain negative bits of information and also always you to play with the truth. Gerry Francis DID NOT always finish top half, but he SAID that he did. 11th is bottom half... Tim is the same. He uses win percentage because he has an exceptionally low number of draws and too many defeats. Someone needs to tell him that points percentage is a better judge of manager. Doesn't he know that 2 wins & 4 draws is better than 3 wins and 3 defeats?. If 3 of those defeats were vs Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, then the points difference between you and those 3 teams additionally increase by 3 points, but if you draw, then you stay in contention. Levy was right to do what he did with Tim. He had a chance and heavily lost all key games, AND as you say, lost most matches in the cups.
TonyRich
Change of subject, how is coops is he well, not heard from him in awhile,always like to read the reviews from coops and cider,coys
spurs50yrs
tony rich-i agree to a point,a better barometer would be points per game as oppossed to win ratio,but even on that stat tim would be ahead of anyone.
tarkan mardinCOYS
Levy was right to sack Sherwood if he didn't fit the profile. Sherwood was good as interim manager but was never gonna be manager for this coming season. He was too one dimensional in terms of relating to the players & had already written off most of Levy's investment of players: an unforgiveable sin from Sherwood. To be honest I stand with Levy regards the players- we have VERY GOOD PLAYERS we need a gifted and dynamic coach to move forward with. If we can't get De Boer or Ancellotti then Pochettino would be great. Benitez would be great if the fans want to win something next year, but he has too much baggage and not sure the players will thrive under his safety first football?
T-spur5
tim sherwood is an attack minded coach.he will get more defeats than draws just like brendan rodgers has and martinez
tarkan mardinCOYS
I had to check the date when I read this article. Thought I'd woken up and it was the middle of August and we were on our 20th attempt to get a new manager. I think we all need a wake up call. It's May 19th and our fake manager has gone. It's upwards from here. Have some faith. I haven't seen us linked with a bad manager so far !!!
muttley
Im sure Ive read all these points about TS yesterday, the day before that, and the day before that, seems Ill be reading them again tomorrow and the day after, so on and so on
Ossie
tarkan - true, but that is not the point that I am making. In practice you cannot compare part seasons with full seasons. So in my eyes Tim's record can ONLY be compared to someone who has taken over from Spurs half way through a season. For example, lots of people go on about goals per minute. But if someone plays the last 15 mins of 2 games and scores 3 goals, their goals per minute comes out as 3 goals in 30 mins....which is 9 goals a game! You cannot possibly expect that guy to score anywhere near that rate, nor compare to someone who actually has scored 3 goals in 2 full games. To compare percentages and averages, you need some commonality. So it is all hot air. I my opinion, you can only compare guys who have managed seasons from start to finish (or at least most of season from the start). I do not ignore Tim's record. But what matters more is that we managed to win 3 matches vs the top four last season, and Tim managed to lose all.... And that is comparable no matter what.
TonyRich
ossie-its still not too late for levy to do a u-turn on tim sherwood.wouldnt that be something
tarkan mardinCOYS
Frank,Rodgers had never won anything ,finished in the top 6 or managed big-name players.He's been brilliant for Liverpool ,because they could see his potential with more money to spend,better players and a free hand to run the team,coaching,transfers,tactics and youth policy.Let's stop knocking Poch and be positive and supportive like Liverpool did and see what happens .You could be pleasantly surprised.
Greavesaboveall
Good post TonyRich.
Cider, I think Poch had a couple of good defenders in Shaw and Chambers (up and coming for sure) and ask Fonte and Lovren. not a bad back line for a mediocre squad. (And I think they have a few decent players amongst that) I do think he could have sorted the defence a little better. only behind us in defensive errors leading to goals! We shall see I guess. some parts of me are excited about getting him, some have me cautious if it is to be Poch!
Dublin Hotspur
i saw the sunday sky sports interview.he did not strike me as the big i am.he come across as very humble and understood daniel levys position in getting rid of him
tarkan mardinCOYS
Dublin, I did my best to avoid the SS GoS and succeeded but unfortunately couldn't avoid the TS interview with that prat Warnock and the sometime gooner wannabe Kelly, especially thanking him 'for all the good he has done over the 8 years at Spurs" with all the embarrassment showing in his voice.... btw when is Moyes, a man with substantially more years in management and getting sacked from a 6 year contract, gonna be afforded with same sort of publicity?

Dublin, one point of correction, The CEO took the previously agreed option of a 6 month get out clause, available to BOTH sides, in the contract... thus he wash't sacked, the clause was merely exercised... Let's look forward to the appointment of the new manager - let's see which expert amongst was accurate...

Let's all embrace the new dawning that is about to descend on the club.
COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
Agreed with you Cider.... lets see what the week holds for us.
Highgatespur
Like the posting TonyRich - no other option left other than for Levy and co. to get it right this time around.... NO OPTION!!!
Highgatespur
TonyRich - did he really think 18 months a long term contract - to 'recycle' the players ? Really ?
Highgatespur
thegoldcup-i agree.keep the posts coming in bruv
tarkan mardinCOYS
Greaves, yes re BR, but he can also afford to hold onto his best players and pay them around €250k a week (LS). without that kind of salary, or that similar to what we pay, Louis, Gerrard etc would have been gone ages ago. Thats the difference. If we could have held onto GB,LM, VDV, etc, and paid their wages, we would have been tasty!

This is why it is so vital we get the right man now. we have a great squad in general, and I can see us developing some of these guys into players of that calibre. (Lamela, Eriksen, Vlad, Capoue, Paulinho, Capoue and possibly Chadli) but if the right man gets the right tune out of them, and other clubs come looking, even if we hold them to contract end, its gonna be tough to be able to pay them what the big boys pay! Hence the need for the stadium.

It really is chicken and egg isn't it!
Dublin Hotspur
Muttley, good points raised .... a week into the close season.... Barca man offered to resign - wonder what was his % - noooooo! don't need an answer for that - but hopefully point made!
Highgatespur
Tarkan, where do you get our previous, unqualified, manager was an attacked minded manager ? He only attacked players in the team's squad!!!
Highgatespur
It is interesting that few have leapt to the defense of Pochittino. I wrote this article to convey my beliefs regarding the likely appointment of him, as our next potential coach, and I was prepared to be crucified. I personally think that FDB would be the right candidate. I consider the "lack of PL experience" to be a huge red herring, as many of the most successful PL managers came in with no previous PL experience, these include SAF, Wenger, Benitez, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pelegrinni, and succeeded, and now Man Utd are about to appoint LVG as their manager, again with no PL experiance. It is said that it is unfair to use Pochittino's win stats as a stick to beat him with, but the fact remains that his career win % of 35%, winning 76 games from 220 played at Espanyol and Southampton, would have to improve to 55-60%ish to take us into top 4 finishes, this is a huge ask. At Southampton this last season he won 16 games, this with a team including some of the best young talent in the country, and 3 of the England WC squad, and included a run of 9 without a win, resulting in the loss of several league places. We on the other hand won 21 in a poor season, and would need to improve that to 23-4 wins to get into the top 4, whilst reducing our games lost from this seasons horrific 11, so improving the draw ratio. I just think it unfair to expect this level of improvement, from somebody showing no clue of his likely ability to deliver.
Frank
highgate-stop talking out of your backside.how do you know he attacked the players?were you their?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Tarkan, rudeness doesn't become of this forum... I heard what I heard - weren't you there listening to his interviews ?!!! Attack minded - pull the other one matey ....
Highgatespur
Frank, I agree more with your posting than the article - maybe I didn't read the latter too well... Although I would support the appointment I don't think Poch will have an easy task getting the support from the masses....
Highgatespur
tim sherwood is/was a no nonsense old school mentality manager,the guy calls a spade a spade.in summary my kind of bloke
tarkan mardinCOYS
Sherwood has gone so lets move on, let him keep talking and don't listen. I want to know which players he was referring too as not caring.
Kong
Frank. I think you're right about Poch.... He does seem like a nice guy however. If he can start to use English in his interviews and finds a nice suit to wear..... Who knows? He could be the next new bright young thing to fail miserably in the PL, albeit with Spurs.... The guy put himself up for sale long before the seasons end, by putting off new contract talks with Southampton. He wanted to see how it panned out, see if he was offered a better job, it seems. There's commitment for you.
MAN ON!
thegoldcup, Highgatespur - I am not saying that he thought that 1.5 year contract was a long one. I am saying that it would be foolish to come in as a caretaker manager, be asked to manage for the rest of the season, but be only given a 1.5 year contract when you demand a proper contract AND STILL expect it to run its course. In Levy eyes, he wanted Tim to deputise until the end of the season, which was refused, so he offered a 1 year payoff as a sweetener. Either way, Tim had the chance to prove his credentials. Better results vs Arsenal especially and also vs Liverpool, man C and close to top 4 finish, and he would have been in contention to stay on. But we can see that we were so far off that, so Tim had no chance.
TonyRich
With Pochettino I am not so much concerned by lack of success to now, after all Redknapp has one FA Cup to show for a long career, but inadequate experience to cope with the pressure at a club like Tottenham
cynicspur
Greavesaboveall, don't forget Rogers 4 years at Chelsea coaching and dealing with some of the biggest egos in football, including the manager, one Jose Mourinho. He also did OK at Swansea before he went to Anfield. I just think that Pochittino is a poor option when compared to Frank De Boer.
Frank
anyway.we really need to get moving now.ideally i would like things to be finalised before the world cup squads jet out
tarkan mardinCOYS
Kong, that's a cowardly act he carried out by throwing that accusation out there and NOT naming individuals.... I suppose he'll learn as he progresses with his qualification.... nowhere near THFC!!!
Highgatespur
Levy needs to tell it like it is, apparently. I suggest he takes his time. He will obviously inform us fans of what's happening, when something is happening. Why the rush? We want him to make the right choice, don't we. Up the Spurs.... Next season will most definitely be our best ever in the PL, whoever our next man is.... Obviously.
MAN ON!
Highgate, he didn't name them out in public but the club knew, he said players come to him saying he did the right thing to those players. It is interesting as the team that lost to chelsea was very similar to the ones that played the matches after so those players that didn't care probably still got picked. I keep saying lets not talk about Sherwood but I end up doing it too.
Kong
Highgatespur. You and others mocked me for being a certain man's PR. Are you and Dublin his anti-PR?
MAN ON!
TonyRich I am saying that TS thought 1.5 years was a long enough contract for him as well as that DL showed the trust in him as he said then and is saying now. TFG for Levy's business sense on this occasion.
Highgatespur
Got to be FDB. He has the experience to transform the club from the bottom upwards. Ajax has given him an education, we can benefit from that.
vicspur
Man On! - you said you were an unpaid PR! LOL

No, it doesn't matter now - just giving my point of view of ex manager talking about about lengthy tenure as a manager at the club.
Highgatespur
Agree with Muttley. Far too soon to criticize Levy fornot having a replacement. We don't really know who is on the shortlist and probably never will (apart from the eventual successful candidate). All we have to go on is press speculation, misleading quotes from Managers and their agents and ever-changing Bookies' odds. But Levy and the board are right to keep their hands close to their chest. The most likely is Poch, who I believe would be a great choice despite your reservations about his lack of winning pedigree. But I don't think a decision will be made for another couple of weeks, whilst other candidates may need to be spoken to. Patience is needed here!
ParkLane67
"Sherwood called a spade a spade", what he actually did was to display very very clearly, the qualities that will conspire to prevent him becoming a top manager. He is coarse, lacks class, integrity, and is prepared to wash dirty linen in public, letting his mouth run away from him, rather than leave problems to be discussed in the dressing room, and the board room, and to leave them there irrespective of the outcomes of said discussion. His mouthing off regarding the termination of his services at Spurs, and the reasons for it, or against it, depending on point of view, and his direct criticism of many involved, is likely to make it difficult for him in the future, as future employers become wary of his attitude. Mavericks are seen as disruptive, fact.
Frank
Frank? Pele? Sorry couldn't help it after reading the article. I sometimes wonder if we as fans really expect negotiations to be carried out in a public forum so that we have every tasty morsel of information regarding the arrangement as it happens. These types of things are almost always done in secret, behind closed doors. Should we expect THFC to hand out a list of names we are in talks with? No that would be foolish. All this is media driven to have the effect of encouraging talk and cicks on their sites and buying their newspapers.

We will know soon enough who will be the next experiment and then we can properly begin to slag him off as we always end up doing!!
jvd
Highgatespur... Well, I failed!
MAN ON!
Frank-You are to boring and biased to respond to. Still you will might have a new boy in Pochettino to BOO and Moan about.
camper
Kong, he lost all credibility with me - so I have great difficulty in believing much of what he says really. What's the point is mentioning that 5 players came to him - who ? Bentaleb, Rose, Naughton, Gylfi and Adebayor ? Is he hoping for a guessing game? All this goes to show ME - how poisonous his tenure /leadership was....Anyway looking forward to the new appointment
Highgatespur
I think De Boer could fall out with Levy quite quickly if he didn't get his way and we'ed be back on the old merry-go-round again. Poch would be more diplomatic and gradually win people over like he did at Saints.Why else do you think they are so desperTE TO HANG ON TO HIM.Ajax don't seem too bothered about losing de Boer.
Greavesaboveall
hahahahahahahahahah thegoldcup welcome to VS! I suspect u have another alias or someone enticed u on here to back them up. Non the less if u don't like what people post or what their opinions are then phuck off! It's a forum remember. As for your link to Dim, really thats what u want to hear from a manager? Perhaps if u actually watched any football or participated in the season in any way you would of course realise that what Dim said is nothing new, in fact we can possibly state that a fair few individuals pointed out the very facts Dim has now acclaimed as his own. Non the less lets move on further, his comments re not criticising anyone publicly is in large a big fat lie? Lets move on from the lies, he galvanised a few individuals and called out those that weren't pulling in the right direction for the club. Well that's manager 101 right there! In a nut shell if u don't like my ideas u can sit on the bench despite being the best player on the park? Dim then mentions the capitulation of the players in certain games? What was it that he said after loosing heavily to City? I do believe many idividuals on here felt playing against Liv, Chel etc requires a DCM? Dim played siggy or Bentaleb or Chadli. One of the 7 odd signings he felt would make us struggle this season....Dim goes on to talk about players "mental" ability to carry them forward. Well Dim i'm no professor but that's your job mate? Then he goes on to make more excuses but in a nut shell is that truly what u want to hear from your manager? I don't think there is one positive comment from him in the whole article?
Mix26
Mavericks are often game-changers. Mavericks are often leaders, fighters and a powerful influence for the good. It's not a fact that they disrupt Frank. That's just a point of view. To disrupt is also not necessarily a negative thing.
MAN ON!
Frank, and that is all being said within a week of his departure. I don't think there was any sacking.... even an 'agreement' it seems... I am looking forward to a TS free Spurs - it was going so well ....
Highgatespur
frank-according to you pochs 200 odd games brings in a not suitable win ratio to manage us,but tims ratio is brilliant with a great win ratio and he also is not suitable.huh?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Man On! I wouldn't say you failed - far from it! Sometimes a job is simply beyond any modicum of any success from the outset - perhaps a 'poisoned chalice' ? You did a great job - it was a difficult one to do .... LOL. Take care
Highgatespur
GoldCup, perhaps you can tell us all what your football background is that enables you to determine the value of others' opinions?
Harry-Kari
mix26-i told you before calm down,no need to swear,rudeness is fine
tarkan mardinCOYS
Did we get relegated? Are we bankrupt? Have we lost all our best players? Will our former manager destroy the very fabric of all that is Spurs? No, no, no and no!
MAN ON!
Hi Man on! who's Anti PR? Tims? no just getting a bit annoyed at his whoring himself to the media and at our expense.

Just a quick one on your post there about Poch's commitment. I actually think he showed huge commitment to the Southampton players and fans by sticking with them through the turmoil that unfolded above him. with the owner Katherine Leibherr coming in after Nicola Cortese was sacked, Poch's very good friend. He was very close to following Cortese out the door but stuck by the squad and fans. His commitment being questioned now should be more directed at the club, with talk of his 5 year plan ending prematurely, his best players looking like being sold! He has asked all agents not to have their players sign anything until he knows if his plans will be accommodated at S'ton, or if he will indeed have to move on and begin again elsewhere! He obviously has a great relationship with his players, as many have stated they will stay if he does (Shaw and lallana in particular) and there would be a good chance of a few following him out the door to his new club. This is Why S'ton are trying to appease him with a big pay rise, but what matters more to him is keeping his squad together, or at least knowing the moneys would be re-invested with his choice of players.

Thats a fairly well committed man IMO, but unless DL can convince him that similar plans will be maintained at Spurs, i.e. not selling players and giving him control, or at least major input into squad needs, we might not be the right team for him, based on our history. I can see a lot of positives, and some slight negatives (both from his abilities and ours as owners towards him). Its interesting times….
I don't think we will be buying much except for essential positions in the next few years, and I don't see us selling many either. This is due to the stadium build, and it's why we bought so many young midfielders, why there is focus on the academy now, and why Tim had to go, because the timing for a mass exodus was not good for the club! Lets hope the new guy has the stature and plan to keep the squad, or DL's plans are gonna go up in smoke!
Dublin Hotspur
thegoldcup, I don't know if it was your intention, but you are coming across as all sanctimonious. It is an open forum. Take care
Highgatespur
Our beloved chairman is a notoriously****ly character.Pochetinno is the least likely to upset him and will therefore be given longer to create a dynasty.Isn't that what we all want?
Greavesaboveall
ManOn! I agree with you on your definition of a maverick... I think the closet thing to a maverick at the club was none other than HR until he heard the voice in his head calling him to be the England's boss!!
Highgatespur
Dublin, I think you're being naive there... If he's offered more money elsewhere, Poch will be gone. I wasn't saying I'm for him or against him but let's get real. The man is negotiating his future in a business that pays an extortionate amount of money to take punts on the next big thing. He will probably be the main benefactor in what ever he choses to do.
MAN ON!
Oh geez another one dodging his posts. thegoldcup then who, what were u attempting to single out by calling them "know it alls" and put a quote that very man in question Mr TS could do with himself... The abuse of TS is that which he brought upon himself...
Mix26
thegoldcup is topho lol.. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Oh as well as it being boring as phuck
Ossie
I can't see why his actions still concern you now Dublin? is coming like an obsession now!!!! he is no longer manager of THFC, so let him do wtf he likes now.
Ossie
TS is no more. He is a dead Parrot perching. He is talking to himself as far as I"m concerned.. Who's a naughty boy then!?
MAN ON!
hek I've gone and done a Dim Sherbert and spoken direct and yet posters are calling me abusive.... WOW the irony of it all...
Mix26
James1, get back to changing nappies :)
Kong
dublin you are seriously coming across as a wet lettuce
tarkan mardinCOYS
Absolutely agree Man on! but I was just highlighting where his commitments lay with the club through the turmoil he managed through at S'Ton. Of course he wants a pay rise and wants to go somewhere he can prove himself. It S'ton were gonna do what they said they would he would likely stay there. If not, he may well come to us. He wants to become an elite manager for a top team, and has publicly stated he wants to work for one of the European giants. He can achieve that progression with Spurs as phase 3 of his master plan. I think he would need to get his 3 or 5 years with us though, and thats wherein the problem lies. I don't think he will hop from club to club too quickly. I think he has a career plan and knows the kind of clubs he needs to work at. he is young, and if in 10 years he is ready for Barca, BM, RM or the like, well and good. we will either have helped him there, and benefitted from his expertise, or he will be another stat at Spurs, and us no further towards glory than we are now. Its either / or! If he does come, I hope its the former option, and I will support him through it. I am still holding out for FDB though!
Dublin Hotspur
WOW !! What an excellent post Dublin - you much patience .... so is his staying on dependent on the players staying put ? or the other way round ?
Highgatespur
Lol Kong I'm trying to steer clear of alien poo :) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Dublin Hotspur... Okay, I actually quite like Poch, I just would prefer FDB myself. So, we're probably in agreement. Damn! ;-)
MAN ON!
Hard luck on our former starlet Darren Caskey in losing out on promotion to the FL with Gateshead as their manager...
Highgatespur
No doubt Sherwood would have helped his cause by showing the humility that was in order for an unqualified, unproven rookie, he would have won a lot more friends. Fortunately he's history now, lets get the next appointment right, this is not the time for experiments, Benitez or Mancini for me. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
sorry Ossie, but as PJ, sorry gold cup says, TS is still current, and is commenting on our club in a negative way, which could well steer our future manager away from us! I don't want to talk about him anymore, but obsessive it may be, as long as he keeps popping up everywhere belittling the club.

gold cup. a media whore is a term for someone who loves to see and hear themselves in the media. its not an insult. there are thousands of celebrities who do it every day. I did indeed turn it to say he is whoring himself to the media, but I still don't see that as an insult. I have done it myself in my line of work, to gain exposure for my products and company. I have been a media whore, I don't insult myself very often……

Cue being called a thicko or a plank…. walks away with a click of the heels. lol
Dublin Hotspur
By the way Mix26, I agree with your earlier post about Spurs being a good prospect for any of our managerial candidates. I think it's an exciting challenge, for any man worth his salt, to take us on.
MAN ON!
we cannot allow this forum to turn in to a fascist state.COYS
tarkan mardinCOYS
Tarkan, wet lettuce?? whats that, and why am I coming across like one?
Dublin Hotspur
who cares if he is a ' media whore'.the guy has a right to do whatever he pleases.the media knows the guy is talk of the town atm.
tarkan mardinCOYS
I have made up my mind though... Whoever comes in that Highgate, Dublin, Mix26 and others like and defend, even when we're poor and losing key matches, I will slate the guy and disagree with anything positive about him....... Especially if I don't like the way he looks and talks. Even when we're winning and showing signs of improvement, I will find something negative and insulting to write. A reversal of roles is on the cards. Bring him on Levy, I can't wait. ;-)
MAN ON!
I think its clear that we cannot attract an A list manager. So we will target a B grade manager with the potential to become an A grade manager. Situation:we want to achieve a top 4 finish as a minimum despite being the 5/6th strongest team in the league. But on top of that we demand that our football be stylish. But other big hurdles are: A. that our competitors including arsenal spend a lot more (net spend +wages) on their squad then we do. B. time, Levy demands that top 4 finish is confirmed by the 16th game of the league season. C. Keep players from leaving for bigger and better clubs So what should the criteria be for this B grade manager. 1. seen as being one of the brightest young managers 2. Has consistently achieved better then expected league finishes given the resources 3. Plays attractive football 4. Big players will respect his name Other considerations: 5. Has experience of the league 6. Has won things 7. Good with youth Given the above, the following are out because they are A graders: Benitez, Ancelotti, Klopp The following haven't done better then expected: Deboer, Rijkaard, Mancini, Allegri Football not attractive enough: Moyes That leaves: Poch, Tuchel, Laudrup, Martinez and Spaletti Only Spalletti has a big reputation in Europe, but even then his name wont be a massive draw. In terms of over performance, I think Tuchel stands out as consistently performing miracles with Mainz. Martinez has had some standout seasons as well as some big lows . Only Laudrup has ever won anything from then, but hes only got 1 trophy. All are known to work with youth, but Tuchel, Allegri and Spaletti do not have PL experience So the rationale choice according to the above would be between Laudrup or Tuchel. I think performing miracles is more important than PL experience for the Spurs job. So Tuchel the 'german genius' is our guy. But given Levy's track record I think we'll see atleast 3 of the shortlist at WHL over the next 3 seasons. But lets start with Tuchel
2ndeleven11
I'll give up on Dim then :(... But make no mistake Dim if I ever caught u in public I would throw a string of soap at you and ask you to clean your mouth out! Biatch!
Mix26
Gold cup, I suggest changing your style of writing when you change your identity next time. Its a carbon copy, and straight in with it too. No "Gelling in" period this time. just pick up where you left off!! lol.
Dublin Hotspur
That's very immature MAN ON! However I look forward to it! ;)
Mix26
mix26-i repudiate such sentiments.you are coming across as some sort of thug
tarkan mardinCOYS
why do my paragraphs converge once i press submit. How do I create a paragraph when posting
2ndeleven11
Man on, I was very supportive of AVB on here even when the results and performances were bad. I wasn't on here when Harry was in charge but I wanted him to stay then, and not take the England job. It's about perspective in my mind. Tim was indeed a charlatan, a pretender, as I pointed out very early on in his tenure. He messed up and got found out. Now let's move on! I like supporting the club, and all those who sail in her, and it takes a lot for me to be non supportive to our manager. I look forward to the road ahead, and won't be disappointed with who comes in from the names bring touted, as long as it's not moyes! Lol
Dublin Hotspur
thegoldcup,where on earth did you get all that from that from this : " I don't know if it was your intention, but you are coming across as all sanctimonious. It is an open forum. Take care"

To prove me correct further you sound even more sanctimonious now... Oh my...
Highgatespur
2ndeleven11 after your last word press shift comma < then 'br' and then shift full stop then repeat again for a double break in the paragraph... hope it helps
Highgatespur
highgate-when replying to thegoldcup,why do you finish with "Take Care?is this some sort of veiled threat?
tarkan mardinCOYS
Man on, Mix, I agree, we should be a great draw for any manager. we are set up perfectly for someone to put their stamp on us and get us achieving. Problem is our history of longevity, use of finances etc that would stop the A listers being interested (LVG prime example). unless they wanted a decent severance package out of us!

I am really hoping we and Levy give the new guy time. We have to, we can't afford anymore chopping and changing, mass selling and buying as we go through the stadium build era! we have to stick now with the squad and manager until we come out the other end!

Tarkan, is a thug better or worse than a wet lettuce? I still don't know what that is but it sounds limp and damp and a bit mouldy? are my posts really coming across like that?

2ndeleven11, a break to next sentence is <> with br in the middle. double it for a paragraph, or of the same with p in the middle.
Dublin Hotspur
I wonder how much Tim would accept to get's his balls out for TITS! magazine?
MAN ON!
Yiddo,neither Liverpool or Man City would take back Benitez or Mancini respectively,because they are both playing more attractive football now and getting somewhere.Why on earth do you want either of these dreary losers as Spurs manager?Do you enjoy watching boring 1-0 football,really?!
Greavesaboveall
thegoldcup - I can agree with you on disruption, in fact it's published in Harvard Business Review that disruptive innovators are mavericks. I think you give Sherwood way too much credit though. He wasn't positively disruptive using motivating techniques. He was negatively disruptive and provocative in the wrong sort of way. If he was on my management team, he would have been long gone particularly for his lack of inclusion and diversity challenges with regards to our foreign contingent. His lack of coaching qualifications was the least of our worries when he clearly failed to understand the DNA's of all of the different cultures we have at the club. His one size fits all in front of the eyes of the media was embarrassing for anyone who has ever led a team, football or other. I also doubt his ability to even accept feedback either. That is also a trait of a good manager and he certainly couldn't do it as a player.
muttley
I can't help but sing the song in my head .."In the year 2525.." everytime Topho has to change alias. Can't wait to see thegoldcup2525 and beyond ;) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Thugs love a wet lettuce, I hear..... Sorry, that's slugs!
MAN ON!
lol tarkan a thug who washes his dirty laundry in public ;)
Mix26
Man On! I am surprised ... you coming down from an high ...you ARE the guru .... holding the moral high ground - or was that just reserved for your unpaid role... will miss the old Man On! until the latest metaphormosis... I don't think it will last long will it... take care ;-)
Highgatespur
You're right Mix, I am being immature. I think the sun's getting to me.
MAN ON!
I'm no moralist! That I thought was obvious to all...
MAN ON!
trust you MAN ON haha
tarkan mardinCOYS
Goldcup, my apologies to you. you write very like a previous poster who came under many guises. if I am mistaken, please accept my apology. said poster did enjoy jumping over anything i posted for a long period of time, and became personally insulting, while playing the victim. They were very graphically insulting towards some of our players, and one in particular. they used a lot of direct questions in their posts, looking for evidence, proof and for other posters to justify their opinions. for a new poster today, you write in a very similar way. once again, my humble apologies for my ignorance and mistaken identity. I hope to have a long and fruitful time on here debating and sharing views with your good self. and welcome to the forum by the way! its always good to see new names appearing as the following of this spurs site grows.

In answer to your question, I would have loved LVG, I would realistically have FDB as my first choice now, but would be happy with any of the forerunners in the betting to join us, in the hope that all our new signings stay, and we can bolster the weaker positions and clear out some weaker players. all for future debates I am sure gold cup.
Dublin Hotspur
...Or get his tit's out for BALLS! magazine?
MAN ON!
Anything for a cheap laugh...........
MAN ON!
I'm off to Warsaw with a bag full of dirty laundry!
MAN ON!
oh dear Tarkan, you must be used to be oppressive lifestyle if you think 'take care' means anything other than polite farewell comment.... threatening ? Oh dear dear dear ....
Highgatespur
Enjoy that man on. I hear the views are great! ;)
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, james I must be naive as anything if I missed that ....
Highgatespur
Dublin, I think Man On! might be doing a trekky for the visit in May 2015!!
Highgatespur
The beers pretty good too......
MAN ON!
......and, I always thought calling a lady an old 'washer woman' was an insult...
MAN ON!
* should be rekky not trekky !!!
Highgatespur
thegrandnational, have you any proof of what you say ?
Highgatespur
Did I read somewhere that Lewis has an estate in Argentina close to where Poch is from, and they have mutual friends. This is why he is Lewis' first choice? and why he looks to be such a positive player in the market to becoming our head honcho?

Who: JJetset
When: 16th May
Where: SC

No announcements on manager this week. You can still debate the 2 names.
However 1 is much much more concrete and contract talks further along than the other!
Dublin Hotspur
2ndeleven11 < br > but together each < br > creates a break.
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If we get Frank De Boer,Pochettino,Moyes or mankini then i will cry (just my opinion & i`m not paid millions to get it right)
levy has to get benitez,Garcia,Ancelotti or cappello or similar.
If you buy cheap you buy twice
Fanny adams
Who knows national? Someone who can take us over that final hurdle and win at a cantor, hopefully...... Beechers Brook ain't for losers!
MAN ON!
It's a fair old trek for a rekky... Or indeed a rookie.....
MAN ON!
whats with the banning guys-are you all serial wet lettuce's in real life too.think about it
tarkan mardinCOYS
haha Man on,i dont think he will be allowed to jump the final hurdle
tarkan mardinCOYS
@ tarkan mardinCOYS. Only one person gets banned and that will continue.
oxfordspur
I've not seen any abuse..... I think it's unfair in banning the man......
MAN ON!
im going to drop the subject now,i wont want to be banned.
tarkan mardinCOYS
Why do you care Tarkan? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
A new thread on Ox's favourite - Jan Vertonghen!
Highgatespur
Greavesaboveall, all about perspective mate, Benitez and Mancini are winners, proven over and over again. Not all boring 1-0's that I recall in their time in the PL, I recall Mancini's and Benitez's name sung many times by the City and Pool fans. Would I take a few boring 1-0's if it takes us to the next level, yes please, and I just paid £990 for the privilege.
ItalianYiddo
I reported a certain Topho etc., for abuse a few months ago and I now regret it. I'm not sure why this latest poster is continually banned though oxfordspur. I respect your right to choose of course but I've seen a lot of abuse and rudeness on here from many posters that are not subsequently banned. Myself included.
MAN ON!
Highgate, Man on may be off for a rekkie, but I feel its more to do with the polish Eurovision entry. to see if it is a land full of such beautiful women as was depicted in the national act a couple of weeks ago, and indeed if they still churn butter, make bread and wash underwear in such a fashion still.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ920cN2HmA
Dublin Hotspur
man on, you only have to come to dublin to see these guys, they were in the local up the mountains at the weekend. i missed them, but the singer is best friends with one of the girls who lives in the village. Honestly! they'll be back in July, I'll let you know when!
Dublin Hotspur
IY, that was argument to all and sundry re AVB's time here ... I want to Spurs win!!! Because we all moan when we don't .... it comes down to the usual question : result or performance ?
Highgatespur
Brilliant reason no doubt Dublin LOL .... he was on Graham Norton the other night ....
Highgatespur
ENTRY? how dare you Dublin! I've been to Warsaw a couple of times and had a great fun. Beer, Wodka and women and an English rock band in an 'Irish' pub! I will take my lucky Hoddle pants with me for the final and, if we win, I may never return!
MAN ON!
Highgate, get the winning habit going and the easy on the eye performances will follow, rarely happens the other way round.
ItalianYiddo
IY I keep saying that and thinking - but we are not in the majority .... I hope this new man gets it there!
Highgatespur
LvG confirmed as manure manager on a 3 year deal .... good luck...
Highgatespur
Will this set the ball rolling on our appointment ?
Highgatespur
I thought he was waiting until the end of the world cup to make his decision.... I never believed a word of it.....
MAN ON!
Highgate, lets hope so, I expect an announcement in the next week, after the CL final.
Kong
Man on, I'll be there next year with you! Oh, and LVG did say it had to be tied down before the Dutch started the pre World Cup friendlies, and after his squad was announced. We missed a good in there!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, okay, I must have missed that...... Watch the press and fans have a field day with LVG though as soon as he does or says something controversial.....
MAN ON!
Dublin, somehow (hopefully) don't think it will work out that smoothly at OT for louie ... especially if he makes van Persie as his captain... let's see...
Highgatespur
Thanks for the paragraph advice guys.
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2ndeleven11
Yeah man on and highgate! There's gonna be a shake up there.
Dublin Hotspur
Reports surfacing that we along with the goons are leading the way for Barry - much to the amazement of Everloan - gooner's first signing ?
Highgatespur
If any of the countless rumours of players we are either interested in or not are true, then I hope our next manager likes them......
MAN ON!
I do laugh at those players we seem to be enquiring about ... aren't we meant to be appointing a new boss or is he being consulted ? I remember AVB being a scout for us before he was announced....
Highgatespur
What about Simeone??? Or is he out of reach in light of winning the Spanish league now?? He might wanna prove a point in the Premiership - as I still see Guadiorla coming to the Prem some day... COYS. There are only so many vacancies for the so called A list Managers, so realistically, as long as we pay their salary - they'll manage us. End of.
DaSPURS
You cannot expect any better from managers than they have previously managed. So, one cannot expect Pochettino to all of a sudden be able to step in to a larger squad, with bigger salaries and attitudes, in four separate competitions and expect success. He has never won a cup. He has never won a title. He has never made top 4. So how in heaven's name can one expect him to step in and do that for Spurs? Show me the history. Benitez, Mancini, Fergie, Arsene all had success elsewhere and in more than one competition. They were not unknowns. They were the cream of the rising crop. Is Pochettino better than Rodgers?, Martinez?, Arsene? Pelligrini? Mourinho? It is a huge gamble based on nothing more than a hope and a prayer. Same goes for FDB. Yes, four titles in Holland with the wealthiest team. Would anyone be going crazy over a manager who had won four consecutive titles for Porto with no success in Europe or in the domestic cups? No way in Hades. Any of Pochettino, Martinez, Rodgers, FDB etc, but don't kid yourselves, the jury is still out on all of them. Let's see how Rodgers and Martinez do this year when they need to rotate players. It's not the same and it is another step up. Are we now willing to sit and wait while our manager learns? Are ENIC? AVB has better credentials than all of those B'List managers that are being mooted. Careful what you wish for folks. You just might get it. ENIC and most of the fans expect CL. Where, in all that, does anyone see patience? May as well put up a dartboard and select the next manager that way. Same hope and a prayer. A-List manager or patience. Those are the realistic options. COYS
peterballb
We will always be associated with every player on the market! Media love putting us down, love us failing, and Tim is their new BFF!
Dublin Hotspur
Martinez has prem experience and cup win. For me he is such an obvious choice. He has taken Everton further than anyone would have guessed at the start of this season.
sweeneyspurs
Martinez has a job already sweeney. He's not in the running, is he?
MAN ON!
sweeneyspurs, did Martinez do better than expected or did Spurs and ManU slightly underachieve allowing the 7th place team to jump up two positions. Martinez has a cup win. True. That same team was relegated. Can he manage a club in multiple competitions and have measures of success across the board? Did very poorly in the League Cup and did ok in the FA Cup. How will that balance with Europa next season? Who are they going to loan in to get all of the goals of Lukaku and Dulefeu? What of Barry? Can they keep Baines? Will their aging back end manage to go injury free again? All sorts of questions. Nothinhg in his history to suggest they will do anything but drop back down to where they were. COYS
peterballb
52% want DeBoer. How many have even watched Ajax play a single domestic game? He is a name. Better qualified than most. Less qualified than a bunch of others. B-List manager who will need time in a new league with a new squad. It does seem to me that the writing is on the wall. For whom it tolls, I know not, but there really does not appear to be a search on. Bookies are making their monies though. COYS
peterballb
PeterB, you keep dismissing FDB on the basis that Ajax are the wealthiest team in their league and that he has been poor in Europe. On the first point, Ajax have to sell their best players each season to stay solvent and that has a knock-on effect the following season, both in the League and Europe. They sold Eriksen and their centre-back last season and finished 3rd in their group stage against some strong teams including one of the Milan teams who played a 10-man defence in order to scrape through. Whatever his full record, he has been in the Champions League the last 3 seasons and not the mickey-mouse cup we waste our time with. Before FDB Ajax were not the powerhouse in their league that they now dominate. As I have said before, talk of A-list managers is fanciful but of the B-list, FDB remains the outstanding candidate, especially compared to Poch. You say you cannot expect any new manager to achieve what he hasn't before but FDB seems to know how to win consistently, and with better players can be expected to continue that trait at Spurs. A risk? Yes, but less so than the others.
Harry-Kari
Tarkan, I thought Giggs has been appointed the asst manager - surely too low a position for TS ? He is a super duper manager thought! Yet you want to compare ?
Highgatespur
Sorry the last post was on the thread!!!!
Highgatespur
So the appointment will be from way out of left field ? TtId.
Arky
Finishing 3rd to Barcelona And Milan by 1 point is not too bad given the disparity in wealth and playing squads.
Harry-Kari
Thank goodness Hoddle has come out in favour of Pochetinno,I've been feeling very lonely and wondering if I really was deluded.
Greavesaboveall
Silent majority, Greavesaboveall. Maybe ?
Arky
Harry-Kari, yes, they sell their best players to other European Teams for a shedload of money (for the Dutch League) and then buy the top up-and-coming players from their competition, thus re-stocking their talent pool and weakening their competition. Just like City, United, Chelsea do. It's no different. He has never managed in England, or, for that matter, played in England. His 15 games in Scotland are hardly going to help him on. Like any foreign player, it will take time. The club is not set up like Ajax. What is our style of play? I suspect if he managed Heerenveen, his success might be a little different. COYS
peterballb
Yes Arky ,quiet & reserved-a bit like Pochetinno perhaps.
Greavesaboveall
I would take poch. And I watch Ajax on setanta. I would also take FDB.
Dublin Hotspur
Peterballb, I agree with your previous posting that it'll be interesting to see how both Rodgers and Martinez will cope with the increasing challenges next year.... as well as LvG with £200m expenditure!!!

I watch Ajax regularly on he box Peterballb - quite like their play ... although I don't think watching them play was a necessity for me to vote for FdB... as I am sure you know everything in life is a risk!

peterballb - here's quiz question for you - whats common between Pelligrini, Wenger, Mourinho, Poch,Poyet and Laudrup - they didn't manage in PL before their appointments either - I see that point as red herring... they have to have the strength to adapt .... don't they?
Highgatespur
Highgatespur, Pelligrini, Wenger, Fergie, Mourinho had all won in different leagues and made a name for themselves on the international stage. Even Laudrup did, to a certain extent. As has Yakin. Poyet, Pochettino, Martinez, Rodgers have not. There is a world of difference.

Look, given time, any of Pochettino, Poyet, Laudrup, FDB, Rodgers, Martinez may be a success. They will need time and resources. Not sure the fans or the organization is willing to allow for time. Thus, the amount of people who are qualified gets back to Benitez, Mancini et al, because they have done it before and in more than one forum of play. Winning experience will buy more time. Expectations will not change because Pochettino needs time to learn. Sorry. Was not acceptable for Ramos, AVB or Sherwood. There is no time to learn on the job. COYS
peterballb
Yup Peter, like the winners on the list FdB has won as well !!! I think he has more nous than you are giving credit for.... btw I don't think Wenger was a 'name' before he landed with Dein... Pellegrini was a major failure at RM and Fergie was a success at major league in Scotland and Mourinho likewise in Portugal .... as you can see I don't get your point regarding devaluing FdB's success in Holland!
Highgatespur
PeterB, and I'm sure if mourinho had been managing Belenenses his results would have been different as well.
Harry-Kari
I think if anyone has immediate Top 4 expectations next season then no manager is going to deliver that with the squad we currently have. Everyone has to accept that it will take time to change us into genuine contenders. What we can expect however is a big improvement in performances, especially against the teams above us. By that, I don't mean necessarily that we will win every game against them, but that we will compete and put an end to 5 and 6 nil drubbings. The question is which of the contenders has the CV for continuous improvement going forward. Benitez seems to have ruled himself out, as expected, and seems to build teams by buying players rather than developing them and when there is no money he moves on. Mancini had the pick of great players at his disposal , slightly different to our club. Pellegrini said recently that managers new to the PL need time to adjust in the same way players do. If FDB is appointed he will need some time but has had the education and experience to grow our club.
Harry-Kari
This link is quite funny

http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2014/5/19/5731778/eye-on-irk-blue-and-yellow
Highgatespur
AVB was not given time, Ramos was not given time, Sherwood was not given time. What makes anyone think that the next project with a young manager filled with potential will be given time. Funny, you all go on about the fact that we can't expect this and that, yet you all expected it of AVB. Best points total ever. Who cares. Ramos, last cup. Who cares. Honestly guys. People have their favourites. It will all turn on a dime unless it is a name. Not because I say so but because most on here do. COYS
peterballb
I think Levy is awaiting the outcome of the Champions League final. Athletico win and it is odds on Ancelotti is sacked. To lose both Champions League and La Liga to the poor neighbours is something Perez wont tolerate. Unless Ancelotti fancies Monaco, we are the biggest job around as he's already said Milan is a no
kernowboy71
I hear Enrique appointed as Barca boss... come on Danny boy get FdB in ....
Highgatespur
kernow. i agree with you and hope Levy is after Ancelotti. We should of gone for him when Chelski sacked him.
topspur53
Laudrup please. Perfekt fit for classy spurs. He is used to winning with style
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