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And then there was one, or was there?

And then there was one, or was there?

Once again for the umpteenth time in recent years at THFC, we are deeply embroiled in a manager 'selection' process. It appears in his inimitable fashion, that our esteemed Mr. Levy has once again sacked a manager, without having a replacement in place to step in and provide some continuity, just as he did when he sacked AVB, and was forced into installing Sherwood as caretaker, and subsequently getting backed into a corner, and having to give him an 18 month contract.

We were originally told by all the football pundits and the bookies, in the usual absence of any information from the club, that LVG was cut and dried as Sherwood's replacement, and he would arrive after the WC, although it now appears there was no formal agreement in place to this effect. This of course was scuppered when Man Utd sacked Moyes, and he immediately declared himself as a candidate for that job, and his appointment now looks a formality.

This meant that we would be forced to look elsewhere and the names of 'A' list manager/coaches started to be bandied about, with Frank De Boer, the early front runner, stating contact had been made by Spurs, to be followed with a denial by the club, and De Boer's card probably be marked, and him 'black balled'. Then there were suggestions involving a list of 'possibles' including Ancelotti, Benitez, Martinez, Mancini, etc. etc. all of whom are in secure appointments with other clubs, and are almost certainly all 'impossible".

Then emerged somebody who is allegedly Joe Lewis's preferred candidate, yes Joe Lewis, that much vaunted and respected football pundit and expert, this being Pochittino of Southampton. He is a man who is unspoilt by success in his previous nearly 200 games in charge of Espanyol and Southampton, and has yet to give any indication that he is able to step up and manage at a bigger club, with bigger players, who unfortunately tend to have bigger egos, the club's greater expectation of success, the fans pressure, and the local rivalry, and far greater media attention.

He may of course surprise everybody and become a resounding success, or he may as strongly suggested by his previous lack of achievement, prove to be little if any better than either AVB, or Sherwood, and unable to take us forward. In fact it maybe justifiably asked why, and at the end of the season, what have we gained? It is now reported that Southampton intend to offer him a trebling of his wages, and an improved transfer budget, in a new improved contract, in order to keep him, so it is just possible that he may accept that and stay. If this happens does that mean that there are no eggs left in the basket, and we will have to start again, with whom.

To be candid it appears that nobody is likely to get killed in the rush for this job, there is no fighting over it. It may well be that others are seeing what Brendan Rogers saw, that the manager merry-go-round at Spurs, and the interference by people, with at best very limited football knowledge, offers no security of tenure, or time to succeed. I fear that at the end of this process we will still not have a leader in place, able to get the best out of what is a talented squad of players, and we will not be seeing a tangible improvement in results, or achievement.

Written by Frank



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Writer:Frank
Date:Monday May 19 2014
Time: 9:23AM

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NO!...There was Two. I'm here as well!.
cider spurs
19/05/2014 09:26:00
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what a beautifull morning.glad to ba alive
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 09:27:00
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Morning all, the latest rumours are that Martino is the preferred choice at that he will be getting boot from Barca. Not sure If believe them or that I would be that happy with Martino TBH.
hudderspur
19/05/2014 09:37:00
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Basically for Levy and many fans changing managers has become an end in itself, it shows you are "doing something". As the article points out it doesn't actually achieve anything or move the club forward, but hey, if it keeps the fans happy ...
jod
19/05/2014 09:39:00
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If saints offer MoPo the salary and the funds to re-invest from the sales of lallana, Shaw rodriguez etc...I can see him staying...unfortunately we have blown our chance to gatecrash the top of the league in recent years and it looks less likely to happen now and over the next 5 years...we have no money, we haven't spent any new money in what 4 years now? the stadium has impacted our ability to improve on the pitch and so we must now bite the bullet and get a coach like FDB in who can train on our players and keep us competitive for the next 10 years whilst we wait to have any extra revenue to spend on players....
shedboy2
19/05/2014 09:40:00
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daniel levy could well throw in a curve-ball.i wouldnt put it past him.and martino would be that curveball.a bit of money going on mancini today
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 09:40:00
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Eveing all (here in Nz) yet again another end of season talking about who is our next manager, soon we will have to go back and start again with the first manager levy employed, most of the names mentioned im happy with apart from one the guy from Southampton, may we get our man in the next week, coys
spurs50yrs
19/05/2014 09:45:00
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Martino did ok in a turbulent season at the club. The death of Tito being significant. He also worryingly, tried to instil a long ball philosophy, which was too big a change to a team that were playing pure football, and in my opinion was wrong. Mancini has been backed into 8/1 from nowhere! Tim is doing everything he can to paint a poor picture of the club to future suitors through his media buddies!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 09:47:00
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Geez well that made my breakfast taste good. Whilst not entirely backing Levy nor finding some mysterious hoodoo why some of the managers at Spurs should have remained in charge, is there really any reason to have backed the previous management? It's fair to say all of them deserved to part ways with the club and have gone on to prove Levy wrong? I don't think so... Yes Levy appointed them but they did put Spurs on the brink and into the CL and subsequently fighting for that place with our closest rivals. I don't for 1 minute believe Levy is not capable of hiring the right man for Spurs, I actually think he is incapable of staying out of the managers affairs which in itself is the managers problem. The manager must work how he feels he can, the THFC managers job is NOT a poison chalice. The THFC managers job would be up their with some of the best positions in the game and if I were a candidate I would definitely want to prove I have the tact, the skills and the mentality to take the job. In all due respect Frank I think we are far from the mockery that was Dim and any manager in the league would be licking his lips to get hold of this squad...
Mix26
19/05/2014 09:48:00
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Mauricio Pochettino seems to be the best choice for me. Judging him only on the basis of 'win percentage' or 'trophys' is foolish. He has only managed clubs like Español or Southampton. He transformed Español from relegation bound team into comfortable mid table finishers as he has done the same at Southampton. With the squad we have, he can easily replicate that or do better. Because this time he'll have a proper squad (except at lb)
Spursfan08
19/05/2014 09:49:00
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Expectations!

Same as the type of player we can attract. We need to rein in our status of what we believe ourselves to be. We are not a top 4 club with unlimited spending power, thus, we will at present not be securing elite managers.

Where does that leave us?, pretty much the same as our player recruitment, having to take gambles in the hope we land the gem that blossoms and becomes elite. All manager appointments will be a risk, it's not as bad as some are making out.

Martinez and Rodgers have done quite well this season. Rodgers given time to flourish after a debut 7th place with the Reds. Poch 8th in his debut season should not be under estimated, if he stays at Southampton, we move on to another if he was our 1st choice.

Some slate FDB, who I believe still wants the role, why?, plays the supposed "Spurs way,", integrates youth, continuity from youth all the way through the set up in relation to formation and playing ethos, European experience, domestic success some discount saying they are the strongest team in their league. Years before Ajax won the 1st of 4 titles on the bounce. FDB got them back winning, whilst losing key players may I add.

The point I am making is that there are numerous managers out there who could well be brilliant for Spurs, we just need to give them time, stop this belief that if they are not the elite designer name then they will fail. All managers, elite included have to start somewhere.

Some prosper at certain clubs some don't, I'm only concerned in them prospering at our club. Brendan Rodgers got the boot from Reading not too long ago. He's pants! LOL!.

I'd be happy with any of the following, because they all have their own ideas are experienced at varying levels, but will all bring something to the table hopefully turning into the "elite manager" we desire:-

FDB
Pochettino
Yakin
Tuchel
Benitez
Ancelotti
Martinez

I could add more, but believe there is no need. It is more about backing and having realistic expectations in a sensible timescale as opposed to "I want it all...Now" syndrome. The only time we played the attractive football of late and finished top 4 twice was under the reign of the longest serving manager under Levy, Bale to be considered of course, but look at what was around him, this purely has to be a time issue as much as it is appointment wise.
cider spurs
19/05/2014 09:50:00
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the indicators are we will be getting the ball rolling this week
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 09:51:00
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sorry, C&P from last thread.

3 quick points: 1)Tim is a media whore as I guessed. Never knew any sacked manager to get so much air time, he must be pulling out all the "repayments" for his media friendly rants! he is dragging the club through the dirt, Levy must be spitting fire! SS yesterday, Talk sport this morning, every paper and radio station. he has a talent alright, PR for himself. 2)Mancini backed into 8/1 from no-where. interesting move in the betting. 3)Need some decision quickly before the WC boys start talking to their compatriots at training camps! finger out DL!

Oh, and a 4th: 4)I hate Arsenal. I hate their pikey players, in particular schknvdzchny, Walnut, and especially that filthy knacker Jack Russell. get a life kids, you may have won the FA cup, but you are all losers!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 09:51:00
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everyone chatting about Tims win % around 60% in the media? have they forgotten the cups, and the fact he only "coached" half the matches this season? no basis for a true stat. different teams, H/A factor, different injuries factor, other teams injuries factor! nonsense, but he has certainly pulled enough favours back from the meeja boys! thats enough from me nw on him! just annoys me every time I hear "Tim Sherwood will be here at 8am to discuss his sacking," etc! never known any other manager either get the time on air like this, or to behave like this! Eejit!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 09:58:00
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Dim Sherbert "I would like to go on record thanking Tottenham and all those involved at the club, it's been a tough few months and we worked hard to get the best results for the fans. They are a great bunch of players and will do the club proud one day. I had a great opportunity to be in the management seat after Levy put faith in me despite only having coached a few kids and today I feel I can continue with my head held high despite me not continuing on at Spurs"
Mix26
19/05/2014 10:00:00
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with you Cider, I'm behind whoever is appointed. as long as they are qualified and have some savvy and kudos! Still want FDB now though!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 10:01:00
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Well, it is fine to sack a manager when there isn't a replacement in place as long as you are not mid-season. 2 of the last 3 sackings were at the end of the season. Jol, Ramos and AVB were necessary to stop rots. So, I do not blame Levy for the actual sackings themselves....barring AVB which could have been averted by not hiring the guy in the first place. Jol, Harry, Ramos all gave us something substantial (first 5th places, League cup, survival, only 4th places, CL qualification, and CL quarters). But AVB was the wrong guy. He COULD have been the right guy if we were that side when Jol took over. In time, he may of got us going....although we were still of the mindset of "if we are not getting any where near the top four, then at least entertain us", his dull football may not have satiated the fans. But at the time he joined, he needs to provide a bit of both. Anyhow, AVB had no track record to go on in order to truly believe he was the right man. I just believe that he was available, and had some pedigree (trophies, Chelsea) if not the history. Either way, Levy was wrong. If he gets it right this time, then I will happily erase that mistake. JUST GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME LEVY! Track record. Experience of trophies in more than one country. A progressive and adaptive form of football. Someone not so damn rigid at AVB. Someone the players will respect and admire.
TonyRich
19/05/2014 10:08:00
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Hi Guys ... Looks like Betaleb will have to be player/coach/manager ... that’s the cheapest option!
Geofspurs
19/05/2014 10:12:00
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As for the defensive issues highlighted by some regarding Poch's formation and ethos. Could it not also be argued that maybe the defensive players available were not at the level required. Shaw aside of course.

That's not to say that our defenders would fair better under his realm, but maybe his playing style is fine but pool of defensive talent sub standard. Could he improve all round with time afforded and the players to execute his philosophy better?.
cider spurs
19/05/2014 10:15:00
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Nice post Tony
Mix26
19/05/2014 10:17:00
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Dublin - Tim was saying that he did not think that it would be so short term. But the contract was 1.5 years!! If his cannot see how short-term he looked, then perhaps he does not have the skills of judgement that a manager requires. It was bleeding obvious. He looked temporary BEFORE I found out that it was just a 1.5 year contact. Who sees out the end of their contract these days....? 1.5 years is not a show of confidence. Tim is of the midset of Gerry "We always finished top half, and won 3 out of the last 6" Francis.... Always trying to put the best spin on it, which both allows you to hide certain negative bits of information and also always you to play with the truth. Gerry Francis DID NOT always finish top half, but he SAID that he did. 11th is bottom half... Tim is the same. He uses win percentage because he has an exceptionally low number of draws and too many defeats. Someone needs to tell him that points percentage is a better judge of manager. Doesn't he know that 2 wins & 4 draws is better than 3 wins and 3 defeats?. If 3 of those defeats were vs Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, then the points difference between you and those 3 teams additionally increase by 3 points, but if you draw, then you stay in contention. Levy was right to do what he did with Tim. He had a chance and heavily lost all key games, AND as you say, lost most matches in the cups.
TonyRich
19/05/2014 10:20:00
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Change of subject, how is coops is he well, not heard from him in awhile,always like to read the reviews from coops and cider,coys
spurs50yrs
19/05/2014 10:21:00
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tony rich-i agree to a point,a better barometer would be points per game as oppossed to win ratio,but even on that stat tim would be ahead of anyone.
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 10:24:00
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Levy was right to sack Sherwood if he didn't fit the profile. Sherwood was good as interim manager but was never gonna be manager for this coming season. He was too one dimensional in terms of relating to the players & had already written off most of Levy's investment of players: an unforgiveable sin from Sherwood. To be honest I stand with Levy regards the players- we have VERY GOOD PLAYERS we need a gifted and dynamic coach to move forward with. If we can't get De Boer or Ancellotti then Pochettino would be great. Benitez would be great if the fans want to win something next year, but he has too much baggage and not sure the players will thrive under his safety first football?
T-spur5
19/05/2014 10:26:00
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tim sherwood is an attack minded coach.he will get more defeats than draws just like brendan rodgers has and martinez
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 10:28:00
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I had to check the date when I read this article. Thought I'd woken up and it was the middle of August and we were on our 20th attempt to get a new manager. I think we all need a wake up call. It's May 19th and our fake manager has gone. It's upwards from here. Have some faith. I haven't seen us linked with a bad manager so far !!!
muttley
19/05/2014 10:37:00
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Im sure Ive read all these points about TS yesterday, the day before that, and the day before that, seems Ill be reading them again tomorrow and the day after, so on and so on
Ossie
19/05/2014 10:39:00
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ossie-its still not too late for levy to do a u-turn on tim sherwood.wouldnt that be something
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 10:42:00
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tarkan - true, but that is not the point that I am making. In practice you cannot compare part seasons with full seasons. So in my eyes Tim's record can ONLY be compared to someone who has taken over from Spurs half way through a season. For example, lots of people go on about goals per minute. But if someone plays the last 15 mins of 2 games and scores 3 goals, their goals per minute comes out as 3 goals in 30 mins....which is 9 goals a game! You cannot possibly expect that guy to score anywhere near that rate, nor compare to someone who actually has scored 3 goals in 2 full games. To compare percentages and averages, you need some commonality. So it is all hot air. I my opinion, you can only compare guys who have managed seasons from start to finish (or at least most of season from the start). I do not ignore Tim's record. But what matters more is that we managed to win 3 matches vs the top four last season, and Tim managed to lose all.... And that is comparable no matter what.
TonyRich
19/05/2014 10:42:00
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Frank,Rodgers had never won anything ,finished in the top 6 or managed big-name players.He's been brilliant for Liverpool ,because they could see his potential with more money to spend,better players and a free hand to run the team,coaching,transfers,tactics and youth policy.Let's stop knocking Poch and be positive and supportive like Liverpool did and see what happens .You could be pleasantly surprised.
Greavesaboveall
19/05/2014 10:44:00
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Good post TonyRich.
Cider, I think Poch had a couple of good defenders in Shaw and Chambers (up and coming for sure) and ask Fonte and Lovren. not a bad back line for a mediocre squad. (And I think they have a few decent players amongst that) I do think he could have sorted the defence a little better. only behind us in defensive errors leading to goals! We shall see I guess. some parts of me are excited about getting him, some have me cautious if it is to be Poch!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 10:45:00
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i saw the sunday sky sports interview.he did not strike me as the big i am.he come across as very humble and understood daniel levys position in getting rid of him
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 10:45:00
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Dublin, I did my best to avoid the SS GoS and succeeded but unfortunately couldn't avoid the TS interview with that prat Warnock and the sometime gooner wannabe Kelly, especially thanking him 'for all the good he has done over the 8 years at Spurs" with all the embarrassment showing in his voice.... btw when is Moyes, a man with substantially more years in management and getting sacked from a 6 year contract, gonna be afforded with same sort of publicity?

Dublin, one point of correction, The CEO took the previously agreed option of a 6 month get out clause, available to BOTH sides, in the contract... thus he wash't sacked, the clause was merely exercised... Let's look forward to the appointment of the new manager - let's see which expert amongst was accurate...

Let's all embrace the new dawning that is about to descend on the club.
COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 10:50:00
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Agreed with you Cider.... lets see what the week holds for us.
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 10:53:00
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Like the posting TonyRich - no other option left other than for Levy and co. to get it right this time around.... NO OPTION!!!
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 10:56:00
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TonyRich - did he really think 18 months a long term contract - to 'recycle' the players ? Really ?
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 10:59:00
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Greaves, yes re BR, but he can also afford to hold onto his best players and pay them around €250k a week (LS). without that kind of salary, or that similar to what we pay, Louis, Gerrard etc would have been gone ages ago. Thats the difference. If we could have held onto GB,LM, VDV, etc, and paid their wages, we would have been tasty!

This is why it is so vital we get the right man now. we have a great squad in general, and I can see us developing some of these guys into players of that calibre. (Lamela, Eriksen, Vlad, Capoue, Paulinho, Capoue and possibly Chadli) but if the right man gets the right tune out of them, and other clubs come looking, even if we hold them to contract end, its gonna be tough to be able to pay them what the big boys pay! Hence the need for the stadium.

It really is chicken and egg isn't it!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 11:00:00
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thegoldcup-i agree.keep the posts coming in bruv
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:00:00
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Muttley, good points raised .... a week into the close season.... Barca man offered to resign - wonder what was his % - noooooo! don't need an answer for that - but hopefully point made!
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:05:00
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Tarkan, where do you get our previous, unqualified, manager was an attacked minded manager ? He only attacked players in the team's squad!!!
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:06:00
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It is interesting that few have leapt to the defense of Pochittino. I wrote this article to convey my beliefs regarding the likely appointment of him, as our next potential coach, and I was prepared to be crucified. I personally think that FDB would be the right candidate. I consider the "lack of PL experience" to be a huge red herring, as many of the most successful PL managers came in with no previous PL experience, these include SAF, Wenger, Benitez, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pelegrinni, and succeeded, and now Man Utd are about to appoint LVG as their manager, again with no PL experiance. It is said that it is unfair to use Pochittino's win stats as a stick to beat him with, but the fact remains that his career win % of 35%, winning 76 games from 220 played at Espanyol and Southampton, would have to improve to 55-60%ish to take us into top 4 finishes, this is a huge ask. At Southampton this last season he won 16 games, this with a team including some of the best young talent in the country, and 3 of the England WC squad, and included a run of 9 without a win, resulting in the loss of several league places. We on the other hand won 21 in a poor season, and would need to improve that to 23-4 wins to get into the top 4, whilst reducing our games lost from this seasons horrific 11, so improving the draw ratio. I just think it unfair to expect this level of improvement, from somebody showing no clue of his likely ability to deliver.
Frank
19/05/2014 11:10:00
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highgate-stop talking out of your backside.how do you know he attacked the players?were you their?
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:11:00
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Tarkan, rudeness doesn't become of this forum... I heard what I heard - weren't you there listening to his interviews ?!!! Attack minded - pull the other one matey ....
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:17:00
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Frank, I agree more with your posting than the article - maybe I didn't read the latter too well... Although I would support the appointment I don't think Poch will have an easy task getting the support from the masses....
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:21:00
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tim sherwood is/was a no nonsense old school mentality manager,the guy calls a spade a spade.in summary my kind of bloke
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:22:00
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Sherwood has gone so lets move on, let him keep talking and don't listen. I want to know which players he was referring too as not caring.
Kong
19/05/2014 11:23:00
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thegoldcup, Highgatespur - I am not saying that he thought that 1.5 year contract was a long one. I am saying that it would be foolish to come in as a caretaker manager, be asked to manage for the rest of the season, but be only given a 1.5 year contract when you demand a proper contract AND STILL expect it to run its course. In Levy eyes, he wanted Tim to deputise until the end of the season, which was refused, so he offered a 1 year payoff as a sweetener. Either way, Tim had the chance to prove his credentials. Better results vs Arsenal especially and also vs Liverpool, man C and close to top 4 finish, and he would have been in contention to stay on. But we can see that we were so far off that, so Tim had no chance.
TonyRich
19/05/2014 11:24:00
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Frank. I think you're right about Poch.... He does seem like a nice guy however. If he can start to use English in his interviews and finds a nice suit to wear..... Who knows? He could be the next new bright young thing to fail miserably in the PL, albeit with Spurs.... The guy put himself up for sale long before the seasons end, by putting off new contract talks with Southampton. He wanted to see how it panned out, see if he was offered a better job, it seems. There's commitment for you.
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:24:00
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With Pochettino I am not so much concerned by lack of success to now, after all Redknapp has one FA Cup to show for a long career, but inadequate experience to cope with the pressure at a club like Tottenham
cynicspur
19/05/2014 11:24:00
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Greavesaboveall, don't forget Rogers 4 years at Chelsea coaching and dealing with some of the biggest egos in football, including the manager, one Jose Mourinho. He also did OK at Swansea before he went to Anfield. I just think that Pochittino is a poor option when compared to Frank De Boer.
Frank
19/05/2014 11:24:00
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anyway.we really need to get moving now.ideally i would like things to be finalised before the world cup squads jet out
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:30:00
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Kong, that's a cowardly act he carried out by throwing that accusation out there and NOT naming individuals.... I suppose he'll learn as he progresses with his qualification.... nowhere near THFC!!!
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:30:00
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Levy needs to tell it like it is, apparently. I suggest he takes his time. He will obviously inform us fans of what's happening, when something is happening. Why the rush? We want him to make the right choice, don't we. Up the Spurs.... Next season will most definitely be our best ever in the PL, whoever our next man is.... Obviously.
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:32:00
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Highgate, he didn't name them out in public but the club knew, he said players come to him saying he did the right thing to those players. It is interesting as the team that lost to chelsea was very similar to the ones that played the matches after so those players that didn't care probably still got picked. I keep saying lets not talk about Sherwood but I end up doing it too.
Kong
19/05/2014 11:34:00
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Highgatespur. You and others mocked me for being a certain man's PR. Are you and Dublin his anti-PR?
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:35:00
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TonyRich I am saying that TS thought 1.5 years was a long enough contract for him as well as that DL showed the trust in him as he said then and is saying now. TFG for Levy's business sense on this occasion.
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:35:00
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Got to be FDB. He has the experience to transform the club from the bottom upwards. Ajax has given him an education, we can benefit from that.
vicspur
19/05/2014 11:36:00
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Man On! - you said you were an unpaid PR! LOL

No, it doesn't matter now - just giving my point of view of ex manager talking about about lengthy tenure as a manager at the club.
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:38:00
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Agree with Muttley. Far too soon to criticize Levy fornot having a replacement. We don't really know who is on the shortlist and probably never will (apart from the eventual successful candidate). All we have to go on is press speculation, misleading quotes from Managers and their agents and ever-changing Bookies' odds. But Levy and the board are right to keep their hands close to their chest. The most likely is Poch, who I believe would be a great choice despite your reservations about his lack of winning pedigree. But I don't think a decision will be made for another couple of weeks, whilst other candidates may need to be spoken to. Patience is needed here!
ParkLane67
19/05/2014 11:40:00
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"Sherwood called a spade a spade", what he actually did was to display very very clearly, the qualities that will conspire to prevent him becoming a top manager. He is coarse, lacks class, integrity, and is prepared to wash dirty linen in public, letting his mouth run away from him, rather than leave problems to be discussed in the dressing room, and the board room, and to leave them there irrespective of the outcomes of said discussion. His mouthing off regarding the termination of his services at Spurs, and the reasons for it, or against it, depending on point of view, and his direct criticism of many involved, is likely to make it difficult for him in the future, as future employers become wary of his attitude. Mavericks are seen as disruptive, fact.
Frank
19/05/2014 11:40:00
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Frank? Pele? Sorry couldn't help it after reading the article. I sometimes wonder if we as fans really expect negotiations to be carried out in a public forum so that we have every tasty morsel of information regarding the arrangement as it happens. These types of things are almost always done in secret, behind closed doors. Should we expect THFC to hand out a list of names we are in talks with? No that would be foolish. All this is media driven to have the effect of encouraging talk and cicks on their sites and buying their newspapers.

We will know soon enough who will be the next experiment and then we can properly begin to slag him off as we always end up doing!!
jvd
19/05/2014 11:42:00
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Highgatespur... Well, I failed!
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:42:00
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Frank-You are to boring and biased to respond to. Still you will might have a new boy in Pochettino to BOO and Moan about.
camper
19/05/2014 11:42:00
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I think De Boer could fall out with Levy quite quickly if he didn't get his way and we'ed be back on the old merry-go-round again. Poch would be more diplomatic and gradually win people over like he did at Saints.Why else do you think they are so desperTE TO HANG ON TO HIM.Ajax don't seem too bothered about losing de Boer.
Greavesaboveall
19/05/2014 11:44:00
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Kong, he lost all credibility with me - so I have great difficulty in believing much of what he says really. What's the point is mentioning that 5 players came to him - who ? Bentaleb, Rose, Naughton, Gylfi and Adebayor ? Is he hoping for a guessing game? All this goes to show ME - how poisonous his tenure /leadership was....Anyway looking forward to the new appointment
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:44:00
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hahahahahahahahahah thegoldcup welcome to VS! I suspect u have another alias or someone enticed u on here to back them up. Non the less if u don't like what people post or what their opinions are then phuck off! It's a forum remember. As for your link to Dim, really thats what u want to hear from a manager? Perhaps if u actually watched any football or participated in the season in any way you would of course realise that what Dim said is nothing new, in fact we can possibly state that a fair few individuals pointed out the very facts Dim has now acclaimed as his own. Non the less lets move on further, his comments re not criticising anyone publicly is in large a big fat lie? Lets move on from the lies, he galvanised a few individuals and called out those that weren't pulling in the right direction for the club. Well that's manager 101 right there! In a nut shell if u don't like my ideas u can sit on the bench despite being the best player on the park? Dim then mentions the capitulation of the players in certain games? What was it that he said after loosing heavily to City? I do believe many idividuals on here felt playing against Liv, Chel etc requires a DCM? Dim played siggy or Bentaleb or Chadli. One of the 7 odd signings he felt would make us struggle this season....Dim goes on to talk about players "mental" ability to carry them forward. Well Dim i'm no professor but that's your job mate? Then he goes on to make more excuses but in a nut shell is that truly what u want to hear from your manager? I don't think there is one positive comment from him in the whole article?
Mix26
19/05/2014 11:46:00
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Mavericks are often game-changers. Mavericks are often leaders, fighters and a powerful influence for the good. It's not a fact that they disrupt Frank. That's just a point of view. To disrupt is also not necessarily a negative thing.
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:48:00
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Frank, and that is all being said within a week of his departure. I don't think there was any sacking.... even an 'agreement' it seems... I am looking forward to a TS free Spurs - it was going so well ....
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:50:00
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frank-according to you pochs 200 odd games brings in a not suitable win ratio to manage us,but tims ratio is brilliant with a great win ratio and he also is not suitable.huh?
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:54:00
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Man On! I wouldn't say you failed - far from it! Sometimes a job is simply beyond any modicum of any success from the outset - perhaps a 'poisoned chalice' ? You did a great job - it was a difficult one to do .... LOL. Take care
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 11:55:00
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GoldCup, perhaps you can tell us all what your football background is that enables you to determine the value of others' opinions?
Harry-Kari
19/05/2014 11:55:00
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mix26-i told you before calm down,no need to swear,rudeness is fine
tarkan mardinCOYS
19/05/2014 11:55:00
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Did we get relegated? Are we bankrupt? Have we lost all our best players? Will our former manager destroy the very fabric of all that is Spurs? No, no, no and no!
MAN ON!
19/05/2014 11:56:00
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Hi Man on! who's Anti PR? Tims? no just getting a bit annoyed at his whoring himself to the media and at our expense.

Just a quick one on your post there about Poch's commitment. I actually think he showed huge commitment to the Southampton players and fans by sticking with them through the turmoil that unfolded above him. with the owner Katherine Leibherr coming in after Nicola Cortese was sacked, Poch's very good friend. He was very close to following Cortese out the door but stuck by the squad and fans. His commitment being questioned now should be more directed at the club, with talk of his 5 year plan ending prematurely, his best players looking like being sold! He has asked all agents not to have their players sign anything until he knows if his plans will be accommodated at S'ton, or if he will indeed have to move on and begin again elsewhere! He obviously has a great relationship with his players, as many have stated they will stay if he does (Shaw and lallana in particular) and there would be a good chance of a few following him out the door to his new club. This is Why S'ton are trying to appease him with a big pay rise, but what matters more to him is keeping his squad together, or at least knowing the moneys would be re-invested with his choice of players.

Thats a fairly well committed man IMO, but unless DL can convince him that similar plans will be maintained at Spurs, i.e. not selling players and giving him control, or at least major input into squad needs, we might not be the right team for him, based on our history. I can see a lot of positives, and some slight negatives (both from his abilities and ours as owners towards him). Its interesting times….
I don't think we will be buying much except for essential positions in the next few years, and I don't see us selling many either. This is due to the stadium build, and it's why we bought so many young midfielders, why there is focus on the academy now, and why Tim had to go, because the timing for a mass exodus was not good for the club! Lets hope the new guy has the stature and plan to keep the squad, or DL's plans are gonna go up in smoke!
Dublin Hotspur
19/05/2014 11:58:00
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thegoldcup, I don't know if it was your intention, but you are coming across as all sanctimonious. It is an open forum. Take care
Highgatespur
19/05/2014 12:00:00
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