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Our Current Players: The Midfield.

Following on from Friday`s look at our current defenders, today its the turn of our many midfielders. Like yesterday, I am splitting it into central, attacking and wide players, but I`m not sure this bunch is a clear cut as our defence might be.

If I start with the central players, do we have to pigeon hole them as defensive, offensive or a bit of both? Does todays game at the top level, show you either need to be truly outstanding at one aspect or to be able to contribute to a good level, all disciplines of the game? Today I believe we have become obsessed with DCM, ACM or any other shortening, whilst formations make for very interesting reading, yet we ignore that fluidity is essential.

Sandro: Everyone, loves Sandro! Ass kicking, guitar and darts playing Beast of a player, but for me, he was someone that didn`t perform to standard last season. Was that him struggling for fitness and momentum following his long absence with his knee injury or has he just slipped in terms of his quality and others are just better? Based on this season, I would suggest a bit of both. Does he have the best football brain? does he have the all round game and what exactly is that game? For me he doesn`t always play a sitting role, but an enforcing one. in terms of reading the game, Scott Parker was better, and as an alrounder, Paulinho, Capoue and dare I suggest Livermore are at least as good and perhaps better. With a summers rest and a good pre season, I still hope he comes back to his best, but equally, if we retain the likes of Capoue, he might be considered worth selling if the price is right.

Capoue: Hardly a good first season. A mix of injury and perhaps a poor attitude at times, were never going to help, but if he returns, fully fit and prepared to work hard, we do have a very good player and one that has a mores complete game and more polish that any other "DCM" I assume that Pochettino wants players that have a touch and are able to pass and he has everything about his game to flourish in the Prem under a manager that likes to pressure the ball and also retain possession. If his attitude is right, he could be a great players this season.

Dembele: To be honest, I really have no clue about him. Does he really have the hunger and fight? Does he have that willingness to chase the ball for 90+ minutes and does he have the fitness to do it? You always get the feeling that Mousa is going through that emotions and based on that, do we believe he is a player to embrace a manager with a hard work ethos. Poch could just be the making of Dembele, but his arrival could also quickly spell the end of his time with the club.

Paulinho: Chelsea`s replacement for Lampard? Again, I suppose it really depends on his attitude. You know he is a very good player, but does he really want to be at Europa league based Spurs or does he seem himself as a bigger fish. Again we can consider last season as one for bedding in, but with yet another summer of football and little break (bar injuries) in the last couple of years, I don`t see Paulinho wanting to hang around and play for Spurs. As someone who will still have plenty of time on his contract and others likely to want out, he may be forced to stay unless Chelsea or someone make a £30m+ offer and I can actually see him doing really well at Stamford Bridge. Perhaps deal to bring Lukaku to WHL would appease everyone and allow Levy and Baldini to save face.

Benteleb: Will a good World cup elevate Nabil in the game? Why do I have a feeling that he will be a stand out player next season and we will constantly hear our fans saying; " I always said he was a great player!" Now Benteleb does have the all round game and ability to play at tempo for 90 mins that one or two others haven`t got. Of course he is a little raw, naive in certain situations, but lets not forget his tender years and lack of playing time. It will be interesting to see if Poch likes him and also how he would look to play him. Nabil isn`t a DCM or ACM as such, but does have that game to suit any situation. Will he be a youngster that Poch adds polish to?

Livermore: I assume that he will be sold to whoever offers the money. Jake seems to want to go and if everyone stays, you don`t really see a place for him. In his favour, he is a Spurs fan, is English and therefore homegrown and has also had a better season for Hull that perhaps any of the central Spurs players. Would he be persuaded to stay if Poch wanted him? I have a feeling he might, just as long as he was considered an integral part of the squad.

Carroll: Sure he has great vision and some silky skills, but does he have the game for 30 plus Prem games a season? Does he have the physicality and true quality to demand anything other than a squad place? Expecting him to be the new Modric is far fetched for me, but does he warrant a pre season and see what happens? There is a part of me that gets annoyed at the praise he gets, whilst others get stick, but in saying that, he does look a very decent player, but I`m still not convinced he will be a major player next season and perhaps another season on loan, hopefully in the Prem will be the making of him.

Holtby: Another player to divide opinion, but has his time at Fulham answered any questions? I` honestly not sure. Is his high tempo, all energy game good for Poch" Perhaps in the Steven Davies role? One problem Lewis has, is that he isn`t quite a No6 or a No10 and in reality others are better in both roles. Can he stay and fight for his place or force himself in over someone? I would suggest its a little less than 50/50 against it happening. I really like him as a player, but you feel that at least one of him of Gylfi will be sold and perhaps both is we bring in the likes of Lallana.

Sigurdsson: I loved him at Reading and Swansea, but he has never quite found his spot at Spurs. Not a play-maker, not a central or wide man, so what is he? Again, he has the technical game and footballing work-rate and intelligence to be a player that could shine under Pochettino, but does there also come a time when he and the club decide he is better to move on. I would suggest that like a few more, this summers pre season is make or break, and I have no clue which one.

Eriksen: Our best outfield player last year by some margin and you hope with that experience, confidence gained and perhaps a bit more bulk on the bones, he will be even better and able to dictate games even more. Can he play with Lallana? I think he could in a 4-2-3-1 for example. Both have real intelligence and are able to play right across the pitch. Eriksen is perhaps the one player that would devastate the fans to see leave or not to kick on under the new regime. I have a feeling that this will be another great season for the Dane and he might well really enjoy the way we look to play.

Chadli: Played wide, off the striker and in a deeper midfield role. Has he been anything over a 6.5/10? That isn`t a negative, but is he anything other than a willing squad player based on war we have seen so far. Very highly rated in Holland and of course Belgium, he is perhaps a better players that we give him credit for and he is yet another one that Poch might look at and really look forward to working with him.

Lennon: Sorry, but is it time to sell Aaron? He is just too one dimensional for me and doesn`t have the versatility of others, doesn`t score or create enough goals or even terror for the opposition anymore and unless she is juggling the right touchline, he is not much more than a willing worker. Can Poch add what others have failed to do? Does Poch even really like out and out wide men? I suppose we will find out, soon enough.

Townsend: I really like Andros. Yes its difficult to argue against his impulsiveness, perceived lack of thought and maybe team ethic, but when he is full of confidence and maybe feeling wanted, he is a match winner. Could he be a great impact player or with a feeling that his manager truly believed in him, he would settle down more. I also wonder what his reaction will have been to missing out on the WC? Will it give him time to reflect. add hunger to his game? You certainly hope he trains well before pre season and really makes an impression when he returns.

Lamela: Erik Who? Of course we have a player with a year in the country, a summer to get 100% fit and a manager that literally speaks his language. Do we really know whether he wants to leave Spurs and England or is he determined to prove himself here and the doubters wrong? You would like to think that the very best players like to prove a point and I hope he sticks around and also sticks two fingers up at those that doubted him. Can we imagine him for example in a three with Eriksen and Lallana behind the striker?

So I think that just about covers the midfield players of all dimensions. What do you think and who will or won`t be the ones to really embrace and flourish under the new regime?




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Date:Sunday June 1 2014

Time: 10:55AM

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oxfordspur
We have a superb midfield with Eriksen,lamela,Sandro,Dembele,Paulinho,Capoue fighting for places,bring in Lalana & you have serious competition.

Keep Townsend,Chadlii & Benteleb for squad reasons.

Sell Lennon,Siggy,Holtby,Carroll & Livermore as they have no future at Spurs imo & serve no purpose.
Fanny adams
Lennon just seems to get worse and worse his best attribute was his pace and could beat anyone down the wing but now he just cuts inside or is too afraid to take on his man. Its time to sell.
Rapm
Can't really argue with you there fanny
RyanHotSpur
Depends on how MP is going to set up the team. If he does go 4-2-3-1, then Sandro + 1 holding, leaving 3 attacking. We have too many midfielders but we also need to get the balance right.
vicspur
Our strongest area - but we never got the balance right last season. Godd starting five and good back ups. No changes needed - although a Townsend/ Lennon out and a lallana / Ukraine guy in would be positive.
Windlespur
With Fanny on the players that have got to go.

4-2-3-1 is the way forward.

Lamela-Eriksen-Lalana

Lukaku would be great up top but i see Poch using Soldado even though he can send us to sleep on most occasions.

one player i would șef be in for is SADIO MANE
Yidmarks
* would def be in for is SADIO MANE
Yidmarks
The amazing thing is that many of the players discussed here have been with the club for a year and nobody has any idea about how good they are or how good they could be. It seems like we’ve lost a year somewhere ... and I guess, in many ways, we have. Personally, I see Dembele and Siggy more as utility players than specialising in one position. Sandro should stay, Capoue should stay, Chadli should stay, Eriksen should stay, Lamella should arrive (!), Bentaleb could be awesome if he maintains the progress he’s made, Townsend would improve greatly with coaching that instils some footballing sense and better decision making into him, I cannot decide on Paulinho, and Lennon could be improved on. MP has a lot to work with, but this means he has a lot to sort out too. I’m looking forward to him doing it!
Geofspurs
Geofspurs.. I agree with you there.... The only thing I'm writing off about Spurs is last season. Here's to the next one.... Up the Tottenham Hotspur!
MAN ON!
I think Capoue and Paulinho would be my favourites to play behind Erikson Lamela and Lallana. I think there's an abundance of goals to be had by a midfield 5 of that calibre. Dembele and Sandro as back up or definitely viable options when Spurs need to park the bus.
RyanHotSpur
Lloris

BAE Vert Chiri Walk

Capoue Paulinho

Chadli, Erikson, Lamela

Adebayor

Subs: Friedel, Fryers, Kaboul, Sandro, Dembele, Townsend, Soldado

Shaw and Lallana would be the icing on top of the cake but I think the team can do well under the above formation without the need for signings.
RyanHotSpur
Ryan: That looks a pretty good team on paper ... now we just need MP to transfer it to the pitch! And I think he will.
Geofspurs
Who realistically thinks we're going to get in Lallana though? Yes, I know he got on with MP, but don't you think Liverpool's CL football and money will be more appealing?
alee
I hope so Geoff! Let's keep our fingers crossed and get behind the lads. COYS!
RyanHotSpur
Alee I don't think it likely but I do think it's possible. If Levy has enough of an opinion on Lallana and the potential effect he could have on the team I think we will land him. I however cannot predict Levy's opinion and therefore aren't holding on to any form of hope. Media would have it however that Lallana wouldn't want to move too far from the south coast, making Spurs a more viable option than Liverpool. Heavy price tag on the lad though, so I'd be looking towards Shaquiri if I had any say on the transfer targets :)
RyanHotSpur
MAN ON: How are you? Got to say I am becoming increasingly optimistic with every day now and really looking forward to next season. One of the best things about being a supporter is the uncertainty of a new season. But then I’ve always enjoyed a challenge!
Geofspurs
Fair enough RyanHotSpur, Reading through the posts, it just seemed to me that everyone had already decided he would likely be in the squad next season. Would like to see leave Lennon, Soldado and Livermore.
alee
Comments- Has Sandro ever completely recovered from his knee injury?. Dembele too one dimensional dribbles up a blind ally and did not look fit last season. Lennon good to have around A Liverpool type player, look for an improvement next season also does a power of unseen work in defence. Bentaleb a great prospect - those who criticised a young inexperienced player instead of supporting him are some of our useless fans. Townsend - must have an off field issue to be ignored by AVB and TS. Capoue Erikison Paulino, keep, the rest no idea.
camper
For midfield: The only good bye is for Azza Blud.... he is a spent force for what he is supposed to be in the team for: an attacking winger to beat defenders and cross for attacker to score from: how many assists in the past three years, let alone last year?

That's up until January - gives plenty of time for MRP (Mauricio Roberto Pochettino Trossero) to decide who's what....
Highgatespur
Just heard on SSN: Spurs confirm that there are NO plans for a bid on Lallana - the club confirms.
Highgatespur
Paper talk about southampton players is crazy. Llana at anything up to 30m is just ridiculous. We have a 30m player who has yet to be fully fit and I think MP will give Lamela a chance to play this season. If he makes the same mistake as previous managers and play Eriksen or Siggi on the left, I think there is no hope left. If we look at Madrid against Bayern, it was the perfect example of how a 4-3-3 worked. The 3 midfield players absorbed the pressure and when they got the ball, the pace at which Bale, Ronaldo and Benzema were running at Bayern back 4 was frightening. Looking at our squad we see how we have too many central mids and only Lennon and Townsend as wingers. Lamela and Chadli have not been used as out and out wingers so don't know how they will fit into that role. Could this be the season we say goodbye to Lennon allowing Lamela and Chadli to play in a 4-3-3 with a big pacy striker up front(Lukaku).
vicspur
Aaron Lennon is the young man's name. AL.
MAN ON!
It's getting hard to go through a weekend without having a Spurs match. At least the WC is coming up..., but no Spurs match on the weekend is hard hard hard.
Falstaff the Fool
Falstaff the Fool, Agree. I have no enthusiasm for the international friendlies, just waiting for the real business to start in Brazil.

With our club choosing to keep shtum on the communication front, it will be a long summer. This would've been a perfect summer for Coopsieyid's Nonsense threads. Hope he returns. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Another excellent article. Midfield for me is the difficult because I actually think all our players are good, some decent enough, some very good and some quality. I just think we haven't the balance right.

I feel Sandro should be given another season but he has to improve, he is not as good as some think but there is potential to improve and become a first team player regular. I would stick with him and Capoue if Capoue is up for it and play them togther as DCM's to allow the attacking force to attack.

I see Chadli as an ok player where we have not seen him at his best but I also think we have too many similar players in Holtby and Siggy and I expect at least one of these to go. I get the feeling Holtby will take to Poch regime and will be given a chance, he is young and hungry and works hard. Siggy is similar and Poch may see them both as potentials and with that I am not sure Chadli will embrace Poch style of play as much. He is a bulky player somewhat like dembele and I don't see him closing down for 90mins so out of the three I would say close call as to whtehr Holtby and Siggy stays or whether they both stay and for Chadli to go. We have to sell some midfielder/s.

I expect Livermore to be 50/50. If Sandro and Capoue stay then I expect him to go, if one of those go then Livermore may be kept. Can Poch get the best out of him, probably, he has PL experience but I have a feeling bentaleb will actually come into the frame, seems perfect for Poch style so I would expect Livermore to go if bentaleb is not loaned out. I just think we will only need three players out of Bentaleb, Sandro, capoue, livermore so one to go.

Now lennon, I love Lennon but I also agree he is not producing enough to warrant a starting place. I admire how he has held onto his place when new players have come in, bentley, lamela, Townsend. We still look better with him in the team than without him but I also think other players haven't taken their chance. I would keep Lennon one more season to see what Poch does. can he instil some confidence in him to shoot and score, can he improve Lennons passing and crossing, if he can then Lennon could become the player he ought to have become, if Poch cannot improve him then after this season let him go, although I will miss him.

Townsend I have never taken to, don't know what all the hype is but he is young and Poch is good with youngsters. Can Poch bring the best out of him, a bit like Lennon, he needs to improve his shooting ability, crossing and decision making, will he trhive under Poch, may be. I hear Ginola said he would love to work with Townsend, may be Poch will feel the same. I say keep him for this season, but he is going to have to work hard, has he the hunger and mentality, we will see.

lamela is a must for me. Manager speaking the same language, he is young, he obviously has talent, if he stays fit I do feel Poch can get him playing and hopefully he will become the next Bale. No argument, if he is happy to stay then he should stay.

Dembele, sorry he has to go. I cannot see him flourishing under Poch as I cannot see him coping with the work ethic, and I think his fitness is suspect. he always seems to be struggling. I think he has ability but hasn't done enough for me and we have Eriksen who is a must to stay and who I believe will have a better season next season and who will improve under Poch. Dembele doesn't fit Poch style imo and I expect him to go. Now Paulinho, well he is a difficult one. Has quality but had a difficult season. I think it is 50/50 whether he should stay. I am not sure he will be as hard working as others and I am not sure how he will suit Poch style. If he stays I expect one of Holtby or Siggy to leave, if he goes that could mean both of them staying. If we get a huge bid for him I think Levy may sell but will he sell to Chelsea not sure he will. abroad may be and may be Poch will use the money to bring in the likes of Llalana. I don't think he will go unless we make money on him.

I think a lot depends on what system Poch plays. I think it should be a 4-2-3-1 but until we know Poch ideas it is hard to say which midfielder's need to leave, but surely at least three do.
BigSpursFan
I missed Carroll, I like Carroll but I am not sure he is ready for a CM role at a club competing for top four or even top six. He has to bulk up and I would say he now needs a season loan with a better club than QPR probably a PL club that is going to be mid table or above to prove he can compete at that level and then may be the season after he can come back.. No point playing for QPR next season who are likely to be near the bottom imo we need to see him play for a team like Newcastle, Everton, or southampton if they retain their players, although that may be seen as strengthening them but we can't have it both ways, we need to see how this lad copes at that level before we decide if he can make it for us.
BigSpursFan
My in up would be Capoue and Sandro with lamela, Eriksen and Townsend/? behind the striker but that would mean a few players being moved on.
BigSpursFan
For obvious reasons, Eriksen must stay, he was brilliant last season. Then it gets a bit more difficult. Virtually every other midfielder we have will divide opinion. Paulinho in my opinion could be a fantastic player, you see touches and movement from him that is top class, he is another who should stay. Bentaleb is a player I have liked for a long time, in my opinion he does have almost everything, and is another who should stay. Chadli is much the same as Paulinho, he divides opinion, but as someone who has been watching him for 3/4 years, he should be kept, he is extremely talented and under Pochettino I expect him to flourish. Lamela is the most talented footballer in the entire squad, to me, the fans should not even consider wanting to cash in on him. When he gets fit, under Pochettino, I expect him to be a massive threat for us next season especially playing alongside Eriksen. I find Dembele an extremely frustrating player, purely because he has all the attributes to be a real top class player, but he seems to get lost in games. In all fairness, he came to England as a number 10, and now he is a defensive/box to box player. He needs to find his position, know exactly what his job is, and stick to it. Sandro in my opinion was woeful last season, yes he had an injury, but that is never an excuse for giving the ball away so often. If he wants out, we should sell, but if he wants to stay, we should keep him. I totally agreed with Sherwood, he wasn't playing well enough to justify his position in the team. Capoue is a good player, a very good player in his position, I do however think, he would struggle to get in the side over a top form Dembele/Sandro/Paulinho in central midfield as all of them offer more than just defensive qualities. Good squad player, but I would sell if a decent price was offered. For me Lennon was awful last season, more so than the one before, he has definitely lost pace, and Lennon with no pace is just an okay wide man that tries hard. I would sell, although Pochettino may eke out something extra in him. Townsend is to me, like Danny Rose, shows alot of potential at times, but has so much to learn, he has alot of ability, but so do Lamela & Chadli, I couldn't see him being a starter. Sigurdsson could be a different player under Pochettino, I could see him playing a big part next season, but I could also see him not kicking a ball. I would keep him, he is a clever player, who always poses a goal threat. Holtby again, has ability, who in a attacking 3, could be a real threat, he could be have a very good understanding with Eriksen/Lamela/Chadli/Sigurdsson, I would keep him, but if he is a player that needs to play every game, so if he wasn't first choice, he as well be sold at the right price. Livermore and Carroll are both young English players will develop into good players, but not good enough for Spurs, get what you can for them. One player that hasn't been mentioned is, Yago Falque, bearing in mind Pochettino keeps an eye on his La Liga, he may have seen a very gifted player in Falque, if given his chance, he could turn into a real player for us, and he fits into an attacking 3 perfectly. Players I would sell at the right price are therefore Capoue, Lennon, Holtby, Townsend, Carroll & Livermore.
Guraara
vicspur, I am also hopeful that MRP will favour a more flexible attitude towards formation... would love to see a 4-3-3 or any formation so that 3 points end up at WHL more often than last year !! I agree time bid to farewell to Azza Blud unless MRP can work miracles and make the last 3 years disappear!!!
Highgatespur
If Poch can transform Lambert, Rodriguez, lallana into class acts imagine what he could do with Harry Kane, Townsend, Fredericks and co. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
FtF - gotta say i'm enjoying this respite of no Spurs matches .... regroup time!!!
Highgatespur
BSF ... I pretty much agree with both posts.
Geofspurs
BSF - gotta say I haven't seen much of Carroll to miss him... I just hope that he hasn't lost his confidence after his QPR escapade... he just maybe too slight... maybe time at the club itself might do him good - working with MRP and all that ...
Highgatespur
I would be happy to see us start to play good, consistent, team football from the back to the front at some stage next season. If we can start with that we can reach for the sky. A good run in the cups, and maybe even a final or a trophy would be a bonus. It will take some time for MP to work out where the players we are discussing will fit in ... but we should remember that he is the manager, not a miracle worker, and (dare I repeat) needs time and patience. COYS.
Geofspurs
James: It's certainly going to be interesting to see the difference MP makes to the younger players.
Geofspurs
james - I really don't like the loan system - the loan players miss out what the club has to offer... not many have succeeded at WHL after being loaned out - Walker sent straight on loans after signing for us ... to leics and villa before returning... If the coaches under MRP are that good we ought to keep the players we value at the club... really hope that Carroll hasn't lost his confidence - surprised to see Mason and Obika still around though.
Highgatespur
To be honest, our squad, ability wise, is a very good one. With all the players at there best... Lloris Walker Kaboul/Chiriches Vertonghen Rose Paulinho/Sandro Demebele/Bentaleb Lamela/Falque Eriksen Chadli/Sigurdsson Soldado/Adebayor that would be a very difficult team to both break down and defend against if they were full of confidence. That is without additions. If a top LB was added to that we would be bang there in the race for 4th.
Guraara
We need to get two off sandro/Capoue/Holtby in the side at the same time to release the likes of Eriksen/Paulinho/Dembele further forward in a creative capacity. As someone said about Real Madrid, the perfect example of how to play 433
Windlespur
4-2-3-1...... Lloris... Walker. ???.... ??... Lamela, ? Eriksen... ?
MAN ON!
Before you start looking at individuals you need to look at the balance of the squad. We have more central midfield players than we know what to do with and a lack of options out wide, in particular a lack of pace once you get past Lennon and Townsend. Consequently we spent last season playing CMs out of position, surprise, surprise it wasn't particularly successful. We need to lighten the number of CMs in the squad but this may be determined by who we get serious bids for as much as anything. Livermore seems certain to go, he showed at Hull what we already knew, he's too good to be just warming our bench. If the rumoured big bid for Paulinho from Chelsea turns out to be true I'd take it, maybe he'll play for them, he really hasn't done much for us. Palace are supposed to be interested in Siggurdson, I can see why, apart from his decent technical skills and work rate he has the knack of scoring goals. Unlike us I'm sure Pullis would play him in his proper position. For the rest, Eriksen obviously we keep, although he's only brilliant when we have the ball, he's not an all round midfield player. Also Sandro and Dembele need to kept although both need to improve their attitude from last season. Holtby for me is clearly a 6 just as Eriksen is clearly a 10, I'd keep him as he gives us some options rather than just relying on Eriksen. Capoue is the most defensive midfield option we have, he's a decent player, the question is over his attitude. I'd written off Chadli until we moved him inside and suddenly he started playing, who knows what next season will show. Comments over Bentaleb amuse me, he's 2 years younger than Eriksen, we won't know how good he really is for a couple more seasons, you don't sell those sort of prospects until you're sure they are not going to make it. Once you've trimmed the central midfield you need to beef up the options out wide, at least 1, maybe 2 genuine wide players with some pace. Selling Lennon or Townsend while we are so short of width seems crazy to me, you need 2 players for each position. The joker in the pack is Lamela, not only don't we know how good he is, we don't even know his best position, maybe next season we'll find out.
jod
@Highgatespur, I understand that after the inane season just endured you like the respite, and I agree that it's time to re-draw things. But still, for me, something's missing to be going through the weekend without a Spurs match. Maybe I'm like a nicotine addict who misses that cigarette even though I know I'd be better off getting through the weekend without one.
Falstaff the Fool
What Spurs need is a "holding" midfielder, the Modric type, one capable of breaking up attacks as well as starting them. Now I know many might not agree, but presently we do not have such player in midfield group. But we do have one who presently plays in defence! That guy is CHIRICHES!! I think Pochi should think about transforming this very talented player into playing such a midfield role. He actually had the talent. Apart from defending well (he might have a slight defect in getting headers), he has that amazing ability of starting attack after attack. So, play Chiri together with Eriksen and Lamela in midfield. Chadli and Townsend on the wings. Soldado and/or another top striker. And we've got it made. Oh - and fgs sell Dawson, Sandro, Lennon and Walker.
dagobert
High: The loan system concerns me also, for the same reasons. I would not want Bentaleb to be loaned out. We’ve got a state-of-the-art training facility and if a younger player is being considered as a future player he should be developed within the club environment. Maybe, those players with less promise, or that the club is unsure of, could be loaned out but not the most promising ones.
Geofspurs
FtF, trying internet and watching games we won so famously ...
Highgatespur
Geof - my point to the point!! Loan the players out once decided that they are about 60-40$ away from getting a contract at Spurs ... like Mason, Obika and so on... as for the likes of Hall - what can we deduce from him playing well in League 1 ? Steve Caulker seems to one of the few exceptions - playing under Rodgers and a winning Swans team but some would say still to develop? I say if you are to develop a player - develop them at Spurs using our facilities... fed up with all these "reports from Loanees..."
Highgatespur
I agree with JOD. We have too many CM's, not enough pace, not enough passing ability, not enough guile. We blundered last summer and with Holtby by buying a replica of same player over and over. With that said, the only one I'm really concerned about keeping is Eriksen, and based on performance, commitment, ability, fitness, pace, any of the others can go. We could do with a pacy left winger, and a Modric replacement (more or less the same requirements as last summer). Maybe we'll get it right this time. I'd keep Lennon for now as we still need his pace on the RW.

@Dagobert, that's a reasonable shout for Chiriches as I don't see him as a PL CB.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
@Cleveland - I grant Lennon will give us pace in a game - I'm concerned about the next 19 that he doesn't!!! Seroiusly why so much faith in a player with end product receding by the game... he won't return to the form of four years ago!!!
Highgatespur
Ox, what's happened to the site ? Funny business ? New moth - new points table ?
Highgatespur
@Highgate, it's not so much about faith in Lennon per se, it's just that we don't have anybody else who players as an orthodox RW currently on our books. We need a full range of tools for our tool box. If we could get somebody better, then that's fine, I'm all for upgrading. We however have other issues that need addressing more urgently IMO, so I think it will be Lennon and AT for the RW, maybe Lamela will play there also, but maybe he will play behind the striker. I don't think we'll spend that much, and I think if MP decides to try and re-balance areas of the squad he'll probably be able to accrue enough funds through player sales.
Cleveland ARTSPURS
Oxfordspur----Next article for the defence,that will throw the cat among the pigeons.

Our midfield IMO is sublime
Fanny adams
Cleveland: Lennon worries me, but I take your point that we do need useful wide players and he is the only option at the moment. For that reason I could see him staying and, if he doesn’t improve next season, being replaced (hopefully) by someone better.
Geofspurs
@cleveland - I do think that Azza's position is one of the critical to replace asap thus my suggestion of the main three to go first are Azza Blud, Rose and kaboom!
Highgatespur
Geof - not another season for Azza Blud to milk more money from us from almost zero product!
Highgatespur
Get rid of Townsend...has had more loans and managers than anyone else and no one can get consistency out of him...,much worse than Lennon defensively and in assists but scores at about the same rate...Bentaleb - loan out the more game time he had last season the worse he got let's see if he can do it over a season on someone elses pitch...Carrol same or sell couldn't get in a QPR team towards the end the new Modric he is not. Livermore - cash in. Gylfi doesn't quite fit - sell. Keep the rest...and get one decent wide man like Konoplyanka...
shedboy2
I don't think Pochettino's preferred tactics are to use out and out wingers. With a high line pressing and using attacking fullbacks to run the wing, I think he prefers a very mobile front three with the wide men cutting in and, with a short passing game that involves a lot of movement and then constant pressure on the ball when the opposition gains control..... A conventional winger relies on having a more traditional target man in the centre forward role. A high line, with full backs pressing the oppositions wide players into their own half does not lend itself to this. I may be wrong.....
MAN ON!
Like a more pro-active AVB but without the sideways passing and possession for possession sake. MP prefers a faster more energised and forward moving, attacking version of the high line, possession game and, without inverted wingers.
MAN ON!
Lamela and Eriksen could be perfect as part of a front 3 coming in from wide to support and interchange with the front man and any advanced midfielders.
MAN ON!
It could be that we already posses the ideal players for MP's style of play/tactics/formation. Just a little tweak here and there and Poch's yer Uncle.
MAN ON!
Gaspachio, with a fresh and crusty bread is nice for this time of year...
MAN ON!
Let's just sell some players and buy a few replacements. That would be novel.
MAN ON!
Geof that is why Levy is happy to have him. If Poch can increase the value on the young and senior players, Levy will be in a win win situation. We have a very talented squad but we are short in areas. Micah Richards can play rb and cb and if he's injury free he will be a great addition. Walker and Fredericks can battle it out but we need a top lb and cb to replace Dawson and Kaboul. Chiriches is an exciting prospect and can add another dimension at the back. Imagine a footballing cb attacking from a highline, hitting on the counter. If we can add pace at the back and keep Lloris it will be scary. Ben Davies has been touted. I'd snap him up in a flash. Great footballer and has it all and fits levy's criteria for young talented players. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
James, good thinking nice call re Davies but have severe doubts about Micah !!! Also got to admit not knowing much about Fredericks except for the Europa match - doubt if Millwall season will make him a PL player... Let's see what MRP will do when the dust settles ....
Highgatespur
a.k.a, agree about Vlad,Daws and Kaboul.
Thats Entertainment
Lennon is $hit,argument over.

It is sad when you think all our best players are center midfielders,wheres the balance ?

Our squad is set up for 4-3-3 Ponchos best formation,but for that you need players that can adapt to 4-5 -1 when defending.That`s the way it is attack 4-3-3 defend 4-5-1,it`s an interchanging of positions,so one trick ponies will get you nowhere in todays game.

The best attacks adopt a 3-4-3 system or even 3-3-5 when the team is on the front foot.

AVB had a system that worked,but his problem was he never adapted to the game.You cannot play a rigid 4-5-1 in todays game,the formation has to keep on changing according to how the game is going.

AVB`s 4-5-1 never changed to 4-3-3 or 5-3-1 depending on how the game was going.
Fanny adams
Highgate, I like what I've seen of Fredericks, has a lot of pace, handy attribute at Spurs with MP now calling the shots.
Thats Entertainment
This article pretty much nails on the head who we need and don't. http://addictedtospurs.co.uk/?p=4716
Rapm
TE all's good but all we have seen of him is that Europa game - am I missing something ? I fear his injuries and mediocre loans will cost him a future at spurs - he is going to be 22 next b'day!
Highgatespur
Would like to see Fredericks loaned out to prem club on short term basis, somewhere like Villa, then bring back In Jan.
Thats Entertainment
Kenny mcevoy left wing or left to roaming Ina 433. He is whole grain mustard!
Dublin Hotspur
I like what I hear about this lad Dublin.... long time since we had a lad from the Emerald Isle - not a 'home grown' one!!!
Highgatespur
One problem that Pochittino may have is that our squad is too big for him. Southampton fans, and the local journos will all say, and the stats bear it out, that he just doesn't rotate, preferring to stick to the same players, injury permitting, game in and game out. It will be interesting to see how he copes with 4 competitions, he has never had to before, and to see how he keeps a bigger squad than he is used to, happy, with very restricted game time. The other thing that concerns me is it appears that irrespective of skill and ability, the key to "fitting in to a Pochittino squad, and complying with his football philosophy", is hard work, and super fitness, do we honestly believe that that alone will take us forward, onwards and upwards, remember our expectations are for better than 8th. There are many players in the PL who work their balls off, achieve very little, and bore the arse off of the crowd (Stoke City anybody). We are used to some quality and finesse at Spurs, and long may it be so.
Frank
Frank, I presume MRP would hav taken all that into count before he agreed to take the post. As I said on Wednesday it will be a learning experience for him as much as it will be for us all ! I am hoping for all finesse at work as we lift all those trophies in the coming MRP years!!!!
Highgatespur
Home grown normally means home "groan" highgate! Lol! No matter. We have enough home grown squad players.
Dublin Hotspur
I am looking forward to the bale-esque moves!!!! Im looking forward to a real home grown player succeeding at Spurs - about time!!!!
Highgatespur
Dublin - you were right the first time we have enough home 'groan' players in the squad...really need to upgrade the quality in our homegrown ranks Lukaku would be perfect and worth the extra just to save us having a guy sitting around picking up a salary for being English...
shedboy2
shedboy2, the new young ones deserve a chance before being labelled - don't they ? I'd say lets have a cull on those who have failed to impress on a loan !!! There you go ...
Highgatespur
Anyone over 22 from the academy who hasn't made it. Gone! All newbies get a shot with the head poncho!
Dublin Hotspur
Yes I do tend to agree - bur Obika got an extended contract !!!!!
Highgatespur
On yer bika obika! Is say that was consulted on by Tim. His kinda player!?. We do have talent down there at Enfield obviously! Just our ex players who were coaching them didn't do very well. Now the new team is moving up the A10, we might just see some great talent coached properly and bursting into the spotlight!
Dublin Hotspur
I wonder if Obika is going fro a record no. years on loans or clubs - think Andros has a head start there.... Dublin, be careful now, the wrath awaits you!!! I think it might be Les' day tomorrow!!!
Highgatespur
".....it will be a learning experience for him as much as it will be for us all". Damn, we've employed another learner! What do you think on my above post about Pochettino's style of play/tactics/prefered formation etc, Highgate. I managed to write that all by myself without any reference to Tim.... Aren't I a clever boy. Seriously though what do you think? Am I correct in what I say or am I talking rubbish. I really would love to know your opinion.
MAN ON!
It's ok highgate! Sunstroke and a few beers! I can blame it on that! Never thought I'd get burnt in Tipperary! Golf and Guinness with the lads! Great bank holiday weekend!
Dublin Hotspur
Not a bitchy opinion but, one that actually discusses the merits of MP's preference for a 4231 formation. Do we have the players for it already? Does he need to buy. Who have Spurs got that will fit into his philosophy? He likes a defensive midfield pairing. Who should they be? Sandro and Capoue for example?
MAN ON!
exactly man on. and yes, we have the ideal squad for 4231 and 433. just need the left side sorted IMO!
Dublin Hotspur
...Eriksen and Lamela coming in from wide feeding through the channels? Nice and swift one two's, mesmerising the oppositions defence then, BANG! Back of the net! Who is the ideal striker for MP? Kane? Ade? Bobby? Lukaku, Benteke? Can Siggy work in the hole feeding the front three with lovely through balls, chipping in with the odd goal from around the box. Is he an MP style player? Is Holtby? He wants players who work hard for the ball. Do we have far too many midfield slackers? Is Dembele up to the task? Blah blah!
MAN ON!
Do our players need more muscle? Fight? Spirit? Tactical awareness? Money?
MAN ON!
On the Riviera Tipperary aye Dublin? Bank Holiday ? Lots of footie on telly tonight...
Highgatespur
Man on, Bobby is our man! and they just need some proper coaching!
Dublin Hotspur
Is Lamela a winner? can he cope with the rough and tumble of the PL? Can Eriksen learn to be more defensive and stronger in the tackle as Modric did?
MAN ON!
Man on, Yes!!

No sky down here highgate, we are 15 miles from the nearest ATM FFS! these friendlies are pointless anyway! Ireland drew wit Italy FFS! lol
Dublin Hotspur
Lloris is the perfect goalkeeper for the high line. MP will want good distribution from him and not just a punt upfield. He likes the ball kept to feet as much as possible. Is Lloris good enough with his distribution? I think so.
MAN ON!
Sandro? Should be the perfect def mid for MP. Has Sandro still got it though? Is he fit enough? Will injuries take their toll? He'll have to work hard with his DM partner. As well as protecting the back 4, he'll be expected to get that ball moving forward quickly. Does he have it in him to last the season?
MAN ON!
Man on, again, yes!
Dublin Hotspur
Ouch, Man On! - IMO we are all learners - it's dangerous once we stop being learners! Clearly you've misunderstood me for a long while. As said in an earlier post, I don't have much of an idea of my MRP plays his sides ... I will wait and see what he makes of our squad... reckon it'll be interesting the formation he comes up with the squad of players... so can't really comment till the intentions are more defined... some players you've mentioned might not be at the club and vice-versa .... yu can never know about the aftermath of a cyclone, as it were. From my observations it would be great if we were to say goodbye to Carlos Rose, Younes and Azza Blud in this window and some more at the January window. In the meantime I'll leave the others to speculate on the formations et al. I will probably just see how the transfer spec works out as well as the WC. Well done for your achievement, you mentioned at the outset - buy yourself a beer.
Highgatespur
and yes on sandro! and new chapter, new manager, new relationship, new learning experience! everyone has to learn when they start somewhere new! don't take the comments too literally lads, they were supportive words!
Dublin Hotspur
They are on the net !! Lukaku scored ... thought you'd be pleased with the draw - Italy haven't won since September ffs!! Toby Alderwiereld and Dembele are having a good one!
Highgatespur
see the previous thread ended on 263! always reminds me of the bus to school that number!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, one of the longest routes .... served my needs pretty well as a youngster!!!
Highgatespur
on the Net highgate!!??, I have to climb a tree to get a signal to post from the phone, seriously, ballybackarse!
Dublin Hotspur
Barnet to Archway. got on at E Finchley, off Whetstone High Road, and short walk home! great craic, and alway a chat with poor old Horace in N Finchley!
Dublin Hotspur
Ajiaco. Avgolemono. Borscht. Bouillabaisse. Caldo verde. Cock-a-leekie. Cullen Skink. Egg Drop.Fapaki soupa.Fasolada. French Onion Soup. Gazpacho. Ginseng. Goulash. Gumbo. Minestrone. Miso soup. Mulligatawny. Pho. Scotch Broth. Shark Fin. Sherwood. Solyanka. Sopa Negra. Tom Kha Gai. Tom Yam. Tom Huddlestone. Tomato.Torpedo. Vichyssoise. Waterzooi. Zurek.........
MAN ON!
All on our radar!
MAN ON!
Potato and leek you forgot potato and leek MAN ON!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats Entertainment
pumpkin, coconut and coriander
Dublin Hotspur
This forum does need souping up IMO LOL
Thats Entertainment
poch broth.
Dublin Hotspur
Childhood days, indeed Dublin.... lovely Italian place now in whetstone - always busy though!!!
Highgatespur
No stop it I'm taking the pea now.
Thats Entertainment
That the rotisserie? or the one down the barnet end opposite where the black bull used to be (M&S Now)! great brazilian restaurant now where Bejams used to be! lovely meat!
Dublin Hotspur
AW frequents the rotisserie and the Haven BTW! Bonus is, Rachel Riley off countdown also drinks in the haven! on my laminated list with the misses!
Dublin Hotspur
Spinach Egg Drop Soup Tomato Soup Tomato Fennel Soup Middle Easter Spinach and Meatball Soup Curried Cauliflower Soup Cilantro and Coconut Soup Potato Tomato Soup Zucchini Basil Soup Leek Soup Carrot Soup with Ginger and Lemon Creamy Spinach Soup Roasted Yellow Pepper and Corn Bisque Tortilla Soup Curried Zucchini Soup Garlic Soup Carrot and Tahini Soup Spiced Carrot Soup Kale Soup Sorrel, Spinach and Tomato Soup Parsley Soup Garlic, Thyme and Pasta Soup Golden Beet Soup Roasted Tomato Soup Carrot and Lentil Soup Vegetarian Egg Drop Soup Spring Pea and Asparagus Soup Mushroom Soup Print Citation & Date
MAN ON!
Chilled Herb Soup Chilled Cucumber and Yogurt Soup Asparagus Soup Strawberry Soup Chilled Carrot Soup with Cumin and Lime Chilled Watercress Thai-Spiced Watermelon Glazed Carrot Soup Summer Tomato and Bell Pepper Soup Chilled Sorrel Soup Cucumber Avocado Soup
MAN ON!
you like soup a lot man on!
Dublin Hotspur
4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3? Discuss.
MAN ON!
print citation and date got you!!! lol
Dublin Hotspur
All the 'new' players have impressed in other situations, ie internationally...stands to reason they should be kept and given a chance..the DF position is brutal and injuries are almost guaranteed...we need everybody we have until our 'system/s' becomes a clearer picture IMO....why kick anyone out?....If other teams want our players they must see something, right?...Keep and rotate, I say..
Brown-Baker-Henry
Nothing wrong with a bit of cut and paste. Coopsie makes a living on it!
MAN ON!
MAN ON!, have you got any Tima'u glossay!!!!
Thats Entertainment
Brown-Baker-Henry. Are you sure you want to talk football. I tried and failed, miserably. (twice today).
MAN ON!
Dublin, go to the rotisserie and the Haven now n then; bumped into AW once but no words exchanged!!! but meant the al fresco place - love the place - near the waitrose - just past the totteridge lane.
Highgatespur
BBH - the leadership /managerial situation of last year had a lot to do with the lack of progress made by the new entries IMO. I am expecting them to excel this year really. I like the way there are getting on with it quietly as no media are quoting MRP... tarts' a good sign in my books.
Highgatespur
ah yeah, its a god italian place Highgate!

Great post, as usual BBH!

Man on, agree! saves a lot of pain the C&P!

Great post Highgate re response to BBH! right, no signal at the hotel, off there now! no wifi. catch ya all tomorrow!
Dublin Hotspur
highagte, tarts are always a good sign, of a good night!
Dublin Hotspur
Oh dear ..... http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/cringe-west-ham-release-official-the-treble-t-shirt-commemorating-victories-over-spurs-last-season-picture/
Highgatespur
Good night, Dublin
Highgatespur
Oh forget it. I'm off out to pull a bird!
MAN ON!
We can make sweet love whilst I explain the off-side rule to her........
MAN ON!
Oh dear here it comes again.... besotted or what ? Too much of a late night last night ? Fluff up those pillows watch the snippets of second half of the season and dream on .... good night Man On!
Highgatespur
I can take them save them and give them away! All in one move.
MAN ON!
I'm old, young at heart, fit and cheap.
MAN ON!
Not much older than Brad but younger than Greavsie.
MAN ON!
Right I haven't been on here for a good few hours so I thought I'dcheck in and make sure all us Spurs fans still love the club but hate, the owner, chairman, director of foitball, new coach old coach, strikers, midfielders except eriksen, defenders, wingers, all goal keepers except Lloris and allouryouthplayers who have been promoted to the senior squad. Cause I'd hate to be a different hymn sheet to the rest of you guys. Except the dude who loves soup...WTF
Slurms McKenzie
Never dull, eh, Slurms!...Just back on meself....best be careful wot I post or 'No soup for you!!!...You want bread?!!...Come back...3 years!!'
Brown-Baker-Henry
Of the subject I don't think lalana is worth 20m neither do I think Shaw is worth that much either. What is it about one season wonders. I wish clubs would go back to the days of seeing players have at least three good seasons before demanding big money, it's madness. Young players when they break tho=rough often do well but the second and third season are the hardest as other teams have sussed them out and then they have to adapt to be sussed out and often change their way of playing, this is when we often see second and third season of average players, they cannot go up a notch and cope with the added pressure of being sussed. I would say we have enough young talent that can have equally a good season as Shaw and Lalana, so lets not waste our money. I bet all of those players that did well last season for southampton will not have such a good second season where ever they play, if it is at southampton, spurs or liverpool or utd, they are not world class yet they are not worth 20+m
BigSpursFan
I mean Eriksen was about 11m and he is as good if not better.
BigSpursFan
I wonder what Poch is up to. He's had 5 days at the helm. All the old files of TS and AVB containing tactics dossier must have been incinerated by now! He will have had his 1st training session with the yoof, exchanged greetings with Lamela, been shown the empty wallet by Levy, his new tracksuit embroidered with MP below the cockerel and hopefully had his 1st bowl of soup! Time to deliver.......the speech! COYS!
Critical_Spur
This is a good read. ...... http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/tottenham-hotspur-transfers.html
BigSpursFan
According to Monday's daily mail:

•Michael Dawson top of Steve Bruce's wish list with Hull City boss poised to make £3.5million bid for Tottenham defender. (ref. SSN)
Critical_Spur
BSF - I suppose it's the 'British' element that has hiked the price for both ? Lalana is 26 I think - so hardly a spring chicken... I am sure why and how L'pool think that he'll do well in CL for definite.... I really don't know. I suppose its a case of 'where the braves dare' ? Anyway I bet they will shine no doubt ....
Highgatespur
Critical tbh, I'm quite relieved at the silences emanating from WHL these days ... didn't think of the files...I can wait for the speech - just waiting to see the 1st sign of transfer activity just to indicate where land lies.... Daws for Hull ? Some noises for some time ... if it's good for Daws ....
Highgatespur
Has there been an official Spurs press conference with Poch or is that a thing of the past? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Highgate, In the absence of any news, the current run of articles on Vital are wasted imo. As much as we try to debate the pro's and con's of players, areas, styles, formations, etc, we could all be way off mark with our expectations/hopes. The comments of peeps thus far imo are like a summary of how we judged players over last few seasons, combined with what Poch has done at Southampton. We haven't got a clue how he intends to start his reign at THFC. That's why I would've preferred a statement from Poch, even just to whet our appetite! Perhaps the 1st in/out will get us thinking/talking about what's in store.
Critical_Spur
Just to add, regardless of who is on WC duty, Poch HAS to start earning his corn PDQ. There is not much time pre and post world cup to tidy up the mess and have a worthwhile pre-season.
Critical_Spur
a.k.a.james1, hope this answers your question:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9328899/tottenham-to-unveil-mauricio-pochettino-as-new-manager-after-world-cup
Critical_Spur
Thanks for the link Critical_Spur. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Totally agree with you ... Critical... but why the rush ? There seems to be a lot of things that needs to be done behind closed doors... what do you expect the man to say ? It's been less than a week... I am willing to wait ... other clubs in a similar situation are doing the same .... wrong time to say anything with the WC around the corner... I am happy to let the club sort out anything that needs to be sorted - quietly. Do we really need to know everything that goes on at the club ? I am waiting like you to see the first in/ out to gauge MRP's intention.I don't think his speech will....we can't change our manager/coach can we ? I suppose, I am still feeling grateful that the last catastrophe is over.
Highgatespur
I have to say I'm quite excited about Poch. Some fans have concerns and some are sitting on the fence, but I genuinely think he will bring excitement and belief back into Spurs. If he has a budget of 50 million, I'd say spend it on the defence. I still believe we are not far away from being genuine top 4 material. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
james - respite time ?LOL I am also feeling positive now - there's no other way is there ? No doubt he positivity will wear off a bit but hopefully not too much... I am really enjoying the quietness... with the 50m - haven't a clue what the club will go for... reckon three will be 3 players to go - hoping the ones I am hoping for.... like you if we are CL qualifying material. COYS!!!
Highgatespur
Highgate, yeah, I don't expect to be informed of every minor details of what is going on behind the WHL doors! I am very glad that Levy has been most unlike in appointing Pochettino so quickly. An early appointment in the WC summer was a MUST, so we have cleared that hurdle. Hope the baton makes it's way round the circuit efficiently. Whilst Poch may be on a 5 year contract, imo, he needs to hit the ground running. PL (especially Spurs) is no place for slow starters as we all know! It's a shame that Poch doesn't have the luxury of a full summer with the squad, but even if we make no changes (deferring all dealings until January), we can't possibly start off any worse than where we left off last season! COYS!

a.k.a.James1, Glaringly obvious our defence needs a surgery and hope to see some positive changes. However, I don't think Levy will spend new money (old habit), so the 50 odd mill may have to be realised from sales....which IMO is achievable. As much as I don't want to see either Polly or Hugo leave, the combined value of those two should exceed 50. I'd rather though we clear a lot of our fringe burden. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Yeah you've guessed it Highgatespur. Next feed soon :) We've been through a lot of late and it would be nice if we can replicate Liverpool's season and be the surprise team for 2014/15. Highgatespur I just think Poch has a good eye for players who are used to playing his system and has a system that seems easy for players to fit in. Could we have a manager that allows players to express themselves in positions they are familiar with? Would be great if we could see Eriksen up front as a no 10, given free roam with Paulinho playing the deep lying attacking midfielder and Lamela playing in the same position as he did for Roma? Fingers crossed he will bring the best out of these talented players. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Critical - I'm sure the baton is being passed around... I'm also sure that MRP knows he has to hit the ground running - I'm certain he's been informed by Ossie, if not no one else, of our demanding nature! No way can any start be any worse that the last few months of the saxon... I don't mind the use of 'old money' as much as others mind. I'm seriously hoping the length of the fringe will be shredded this close season... no one seems to know much about Spurs in the media it seems and it seems to bugging them! I am loving that aspect!
Highgatespur
James, your comment, 'Poch has a good eye for players who are used to playing his system and has a system that seems easy for players to fit in. Could we have a manager that allows players to express themselves in positions they are familiar with?' would be fantastic if it were to come true... been waiting for that to happen at Spurs for a long while.... I do like the way he has started - all quietly. Mind, I never thought of Eriksen as a front man but I'm open to anything that will make Spurs play with 'fluidity'... one thing I can't wait to see again is Lamela playing with full confidence!! I am so hoping that MRP is going to be the man .... we deserve success after so so many fa;se hopes. COYS!!! Good luck on your quests... it's all worth it!!!
Highgatespur
Highgatespur I meant Eriksen as a floating no 10, an old fashioned 10 whose sole purpose is to link up play and supply the front line. He's no SS, but who knows how Eriksen will develop! Critical you maybe right with selling players to bring in new additions. Fringe players like Livermore and Siggy and possibly Holtby. Personally I'd rather keep Holtby and Siggy because both are technically very good footballers. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Well, having used the term 'Fringe' myself, I thought, hmm it could form the title of an article itself. What exactly is a 'fringe player' ?. One isn't born or drafted in as a fringe candidate. Sometimes the best players can become fringe players, e.g., due to injuries (Kaboul), age (Friedel), loss of form (Andros, Soldado), being ostracised (Ade) or simply failed to develop (Siggy, Rose). Let's see how Poch sees things!
Critical_Spur
I stopped reading after the Sandro drivel... Siggy, Lennon are the only 2 we should consider selling. Siggy cause in all fairness he is a good player but could not really cut it.(perhaps MP will give him a chance), Lennon has been Lennon far too long, we need a winger who scores.
Mix26
Good morning everyone! great article to start the week....For me, there are a few I would consider offers for, Siggy, Chadli, Lennon & Townsend....however, if they were all keen to buy in to what MoPo wants to do, I'd happily keep them all. Siggy getting a bit of a hard time for me, he scores a lot of goals! Chadli had a poor season, but who didn't. While I think Lennon will never improve, I'd keep him till Jan just so these thoughts can be confirmed. I don't think the midfield is a problem area, and if they all want to knuckle down and better themselves, I'm okay with that. Livermore can be sold.
King26
Should have added, whilst I say I'm happy to keep them, if anyone comes in with offers of 10+ for siggy/lennon/townsend, then it's good money, take it. But they shouldn't be forced out for small amounts. Chadli I think wills how what he's about over the summer
King26
Does he have the best football brain? does he have the all round game and what exactly is that game? For me he doesn`t always play a sitting role, but an enforcing one. in terms of reading the game, Scott Parker was better, and as an alrounder, Paulinho, Capoue and dare I suggest Livermore are at least as good and perhaps better. With a summers rest and a good pre season, I still hope he comes back to his best, but equally, if we retain the likes of Capoue, he might be considered worth selling if the price is right.
Mix26
Nope that part WHLN. Comparing Parker to Sandro? That's a joke really and a sad one. Comparing Capoue who had a below avg season but showed glimpses of quality. Another joke. Selling Sandro over Capoue another tasteless piece of drivel.
Mix26
Mix26 I have to disagree regarding Sandro. The beast is one of the best readers of the game. He could anticipate and break up play as good as ant when playing under AVB. He's not been at his best, one bad injury and some niggling injuries have set him back. Now he's out of the WC he can rest and fingers crossed have a good pre-season under his belt. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
aka I was quoting the article, I completely disagree with that statement in it's entirety! LOL! Sandro was unlucky with his injury and then did not fit into Dims plans, funny how when he returned I think we won 3-0. Sandro has never been a prominent feature in the brazilian team who rarely play with a player like him since Gilberto. Fernandinho, Levia, are the new 'Holding MF player' and this is where Sandro was/is improving his game before his injury. He has the discipline to hold his position but his distribution range is low, he works the short passes very well and perhaps needs a more comfortable MF as with Dembele to compliment him. There is however no player who hunts, tracks, reads the game in our team like Sandro. He adds double the steel that any other player on the pitch has (in fact he has more than the rest of the team put together).
Mix26
whlnl17-how dare you come close to criticising sandro
tarkan mardinCOYS
tarkan hows about that Lambert signing? U guys really got him on the cheap...
Mix26
Name one match of significance which Townsend has won. He's not a match winner he's an overrated kid playing in a mans league.
jordtheyid
Sandro is rubbish, as are all our South American players. Overpaid, overrated and over here!
MAN ON!
Lol sorry Mix26 I completely misread your post! COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
lol MAN ON is tarkan ur bff that u gotta back him up so often?
Mix26
no stress aka i didnt read past the first three paragraphs ;)
Mix26
Mix26. I'm not backing anyone up.
MAN ON!
so that's your opinion then MAN ON ?
Mix26
Mix26... I was being sarcastic and, if anything it was against Tarkan. I thought I was being obvious.... I don't back up people I'm disagreeing with. After all I agree a lot with you but I'll sure enough let you know when I don't. ;-)
MAN ON!
hahahahahaha phuck I missed that one guv. 'a thousand apologies'
Mix26
Mix26. I don't know what you're on about half the time.. Or what you're on!
MAN ON!
I think we should re-think the work balance here. winger + holding + playmaker all sounds very textbook. Noted that when siggy played Eriksen (the one;) and perhaps lamela, even hotboy, there have been little sparks all over the pitch. But adde lennon and townsend,as much as I like those two, these thing s are gone.
SpursWho
Agree with Geoff re the one year not enough time point
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