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So Many Variables!

So Many Variables!

Football should be quite a simple game; get 11 good players together and go out and beat the other team. Easy, right? No, not really!

It's not that simple. More and more, it seems, what happens off the pitch has a greater influence on a club's success than what happens on the pitch. There are so many variables these days that impact on all teams and affect the outcome of every season.

What are these variables? Here are some that I can think of in no particular order: Stadium, Scouting system, Clubs' ability to attract good players, Youth development program, Training regime, Training facility, Fitness (achieving and maintaining it), Medical staff, Injuries, Player attitude, Referee, Linesmen, Financial ability (to buy players and to pay wages), Income (via ground capacity, sponsorship, competition success), Club ambition, Club politics, Manager, Media, Club history, Expectations (Club, players, supporters), Club politics, Ego Management, Finding the right system to play, Continuity and consistency, The opposition, European involvement, Transfer windows, International friendlies and competitions, Pre-season program, Playing surface, Ground-staff, Weather, Travel, Squad rotation strategy, Player support, Language, and LUCK!

These variables obviously apply to every professional club. Football clubs can control some of them and some of them they can't. The successful cIubs are the ones that get most of the things they can control right. I'm sure that this is by no means an exhaustive list so feel free to add to it. So, the question is: Where do THFC stand in terms of the 'variables' clubs can control? What are we doing well and what can we do better?

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Writer:Geofspurs
Date:Wednesday July 2 2014
Time: 9:52AM

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Geof I have to say that the variables arguement is only put forward by those who fail. A symptom of the modern age when everything has to be diagnoised and everyone has a condition. If the msall team beats a big team because they are better prepared then the only variable is preperation. But if the favourite team wins as expected, it isn't because of varibles behind the small team its because they were weaker. Simples.
Slurms McKenzie
02/07/2014 10:07:00
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Most of the varibles that you list have more of an impact on a squad over a season and not game to game. Yes the depth of a squad will affect the final position in a league. A stronger starting eleven gives you an advantage and if you parlay that into a successful season it does get easier to attract better players because of the extra revenue avialable. But game to game the variables are much more focused. Which team was better prepared, tactically, mentally, physically? which team did the most homework on the opposition? which team want to win the game and which team just want to stop the other team winning? Ultimately on a game to game basis the most important factor is the management of the team. Cup competitions are the perfect example of this.
Slurms McKenzie
02/07/2014 10:13:00
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Geofspur, You forgot Lasagna!.....or more apt, diet!
Critical_Spur
02/07/2014 10:24:00
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One variable that hasn't been mentioned is the number of games. As Liverpool showed last season playing less games than the competiton can be a big advantage. That will be mitigated to some extent dependinmg on the style of play, Liverpool were playing a consistent high tempo game so it was particularly useful to them.
jod
02/07/2014 10:26:00
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jod. That may well be the way Pochettino sets Spurs up to play. Can it work for an entire PL season?
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 10:30:00
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It's the variables that make football fun. Whether people like it or not, 2 big variables are what's the income and what's our spend. In the revenue bucket you can get the TV monies, the gate receipts, the sponsorship, profit on players and the merchandise. Generally, most of those are pretty fixed or grow organically but the thing that can make a 10-20% difference would be Champs League. The other of course is player sales e.g. Bale. In the spend is for me the biggest variable. Making the right player choices and having the salaries optimised is clearly the biggest variable that we quite often get very wrong.

On the football side, I believe that the philosophy, tactics, team selection, subs etc form the biggest variables. Let's not pretend that at times you need the rub as well. The other big variable that nobody talks about much is injuries. Give Liverpool the amount or injuries that Spurs had last year and they would have finished in the same place as us. Give us a fully fit squad except one or two then we may not have finished second but we would have been way better off. Newcastle also had one of those seasons a few years back where they kept the whole squad fit. It makes a huge difference.
muttley
02/07/2014 10:33:00
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Al;l you need to do is ask 2 questions, which teams have made the top 4 on a regular basis? Why those clubs? Large injections of capital in the case of Chelsea and City have allowed them to buy the best players and appoint the top managers, then success breeds success. Playing in the CL attracts the top players as does paying top wages. Liverpool may be the exception here, they simple had one of the best players in the league in Suarez and appointed the right manager and give him a chance to shine. Levy is a *****wit we had great players with Modric, bale, Van de vart. We had a decent manger in harry who had taken us to CL but levey did not allow him to build on that succes. So in short top manger, enough capital to attract the best players, competetive wages and regular top flight football. Then you can add a bigger capacity stadium. As for brining youth through, I dont see many examples of this with the top clubs really, there are a few scattered here and there but it is the top top players that make the difefrence between success and failure.
Horny Helen
02/07/2014 10:37:00
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You forgot to mention E = MC2 (Eriksen = Mertesacker times Cazorla squared)
In-spurs-ational
02/07/2014 10:37:00
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For me, the crucial element are levels of encouragement and belief. Lower expectations = continued failure (relative).
Highgatespur
02/07/2014 10:42:00
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the biggest variable is between the ears....good judgement and working for the continuous improvement of the team..the priority has to be success on the pitch, it drives everything else...veer away from that at peril....
shedboy2
02/07/2014 10:53:00
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Living in a free market era, two are the most important conditions in order a football club to compete successfully for titles and trophies: a wealthy and ambitious with winning regularly silverware on the field owner and a capable and intelligent manager. All other variables become significantly important only in case one or both of those two conditions are not fulfil.
Ioan X
02/07/2014 10:55:00
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There are indeed many variables, which makes particularly daft the penchant some people have for one or two 'reasons' why a club succeeds or fails to achieve. In talking, we can be tempted to come out with "It simply comes down to..." but Life is complicated, or at least nothing like as simple as some would have us believe. That's one of the lessons of watching football, surely — life's lovely complexity, and that as in Robert Burns's poem 'To a Mouse', "The best laid plans of mice and men, go awry".
Airwave
02/07/2014 10:57:00
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Airwave, espcially if Lenny likes you and wants to give you a hug!
Slurms McKenzie
02/07/2014 11:02:00
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Or as Harry always says... Triffic!
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 11:06:00
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Slurms ... The point I was (hopefully) trying to make is that there is so much that has to come together for a team, any team, to be continually successful.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:12:00
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Mikey Mouse has enormous ears but a very small brain. Rubbish footballer IMO.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 11:13:00
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onemoreseason ... 3-0 is a ‘variable’ that I hope to see more often!
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:14:00
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Geof I prefer if 3-0 became a constant!
Slurms McKenzie
02/07/2014 11:15:00
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Critical ... ‘Lasagna’ was a great example ... how could anyone factor that into their season, but it sure made a difference!
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:17:00
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jod ... I kind of inferred the number of games with reference to European competitions. It certainly has to have an impact.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:18:00
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muttley ... I agree. Without all the complications and difficulties that teams face most teams would have little chance of winning anything ... even less than they have now. It is what makes football interesting and, sometimes, unpredictable.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:21:00
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Airwave ... Yes to that!
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:23:00
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there's many variables just going to work or on holiday...but if you don't know where you're going your not going to get there...once you do, the variables slip right into the decision making tree...so where are we going? what are our aims? to be the best football team we can be? or to sell a property portfolio and make hundreds of millions of pounds?...if it's the latter the first will suffer for quite some time...
shedboy2
02/07/2014 11:24:00
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Geofspurs.. Theres an ad on British TV trying to encourage people to become volunteers for local sports teams called the "The Local Heroes" campaign". Ian Wright is the manager of a kids team. He's in the dressing room giving out the team tactics talk to a confused bunch of boys and girls and a little boy say's, "Ian my kit's still wet". They go out onto an empty pitch and another boy say's, "Ian, you forgot to call the other team" Wright replies with, "I'm a strategist, I can't do everything. I need help!" Your article reminded me of it.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 11:26:00
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The only variable in football is goals. Score more than the other team and you win. If you don't you either lose or draw. Simple really. Now if you are talking about putting a team together and managing it, that's very difficult. That's where the variables make the difference.
jvd
02/07/2014 11:33:00
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Commercial success or having a sugar daddy are the only things that have always mattered. It's just that these days they matter so much more as the size of squads has grown. Picking teams from 13 or 14 players used to be a great leveller.
Love totty
02/07/2014 11:35:00
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Any successful club will need to play more games than an unsuccessful club. It's a fact of life. If we aren't challenging for cups in their latter stages, or playing in Europe, we are not succeeding, we are under performing. This is true across any league, and includes the international stage where the best players have to play more games than lesser players. To be at the top or challenging for success , and to have the best possible players,we need to play more games, have the squad to cope with these demands and rotate accordingly. We have entered seasons requiring us and our players to play more, but this rotation process has not been managed to good effect to date. When this happens the question of not wanting to be in cups and Europe will vanish and we will begin lifting trophies again.
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 11:36:00
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Oh, and definitely avoid eating lasagne and bring our own chefs when we travel.
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 11:36:00
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Slurms ... btw I can’t accept your comment that ‘the variables argument is only put forward by those who fail’. That seems too simplistic. Most teams fail every season if you consider not winning anything is a failure. And the reason some teams win and most teams don’t is because of the difference of many of those ‘variables’ or ‘factors’ if you like.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 11:37:00
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Suarez came a cropper eating an Italian too. So many variables and lessons to be learnt.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 11:39:00
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Good one man on!!
it's a good article geof. Variables will always be a factor. If we can get the core of our squad and tactics right, we can only do our best to manage variables outside of our control. It's all about having everyone at the club ready for any eventuality. Have the full playing staff, whatever level, playing to the same tune, and cross our fingers and hope for the best. All the unforeseen variables last season were managed horrifically. Hoping the new team have better foresight and contingency planning put in place.
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 11:44:00
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wow, what to put on this morning?....who am I meeting? what's the weather? what transport will I use? what shoe to put on first left or right?...get the big picture right and most of the variables will fall into place as the minutiae that they are...
shedboy2
02/07/2014 11:45:00
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jinx shed!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 11:47:00
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I'm now walking down Brixton High Road with nothing but a pair of my girlfriends knickers on and I think I've left my keys in my Spurs branded Gilet pocket..
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 11:50:00
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so daniel levy is asking for 20million for sandro and only prepared to pay 6-8million for ben davies.negotiations like this inevitably drag on.just hope for once we get things done early and not last day nonsense.
tarkan mardinCOYS
02/07/2014 11:52:00
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onemorereason. there are also a multitude of positive articles towards esteban. including the one Cider put up yesterday. will you support him and Poch if our manager decides this is a good addition to the squad? I certainly will!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 11:52:00
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He's worth a punt in my opinion. Cambiasso has a bloody good CV. It could work.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:02:00
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Now we're supposedly after Negredo... I thought we were supposed to be taking it easy in this transfer window. We're buying half of Cardiff City and half of the world cup best 11. Oh, and O'Shea!
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:07:00
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onemoreseason. I very much doubt that we're after him anyway.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:08:00
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a bit on the stadium!
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/tottenham-could-play-home-games-at-ipswich-or-brighton-while-new-stadium-is-being-built--as-spurs-rule-out-white-hart-lane-stay-9578497.html

The club is expecting a decision on the CPO by early next week, its thought the Government are embarrassed enough to act now!
I've been told to expect movements in and out by the end of the week, Dawson to Hull and one defender in. we are still interested in Moreno (H) but the injury obviously complicates matters. Some loans out should be agreed this week too.

Now donate you tight ********
Grey Fox, Yesterday at 10:31 AM #1
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:11:00
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onemoreseason-we do this every summer.our buying and selling prices are simply absurd and before we know it the season has started.getting ben davies from swansea to thfc hs nothing to do with champions league.on sandro 13-15million is a fair price.lets get the ball rolling ASAP
tarkan mardinCOYS
02/07/2014 12:14:00
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sndro is an out and out defensive midfielder.something that pochettino does not favour.deep lying midfielders is what he goes for and on that basis we should let sandro go
tarkan mardinCOYS
02/07/2014 12:16:00
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Sorry, I mean Swansea City...
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:17:00
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one more reason, read yesterdays thread for my views in full. I will give you a few points. We don't need to drop anyone, we are likely to make some loans out including bentaleb. Livermore has been sold. it is replacing these to a point! He doesn't need to be first pick. His presence at the club with his winning experience and mentality will be just what our younger players need. you can't buy that kind of presence and experience. as I said yesterday 75k a week, free transfer also equals a £3m transfer and zero wages! I sincerely hope you loo a little deeper into the probable reasons Poch is looking at him. for that price, we could have a serious psychological warhead in our squad! he would be shown respect and awe and have a unique position of building player confidence from the training ground, bench and on the pitch! please feel free to read yesterdays discussion on the topic.
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:20:00
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shedboy ... It's all the little things that add up to the big picture. Get up in the morning for work (did the alarm work?), get dressed (are your clothes washed?), catch a bus (is there a bus strike?), arrive at work (forgot it’s Sunday! So went home). So many things can affect the things we want to do. It’s called ‘life (or, sometimes, sheet happens)!
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 12:21:00
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I really hope we don't go mad raiding bottom of the table teams for mediocre players! I'm leaving all player speculation alone now, and waiting to see who Poch decides is right for us. I am also hoping the quoted £50m chest is in addition to profit from sales and wages from loaned players! that would make a massive difference to who we can and can't bit for and what kind of wages we can pay!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:25:00
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Geofspurs, I think if the Head Coach believes in the Chairman and vice versa and the players believe in the coach, we'll do ok. Us fans need to then believe in the football. Everything else has a bearing but the bottom line is, are the players, head coach and results good enough?
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:26:00
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Daily Mail understand Swansea City pulled the plug over the weekend for Ben Davies to transfer to Tottenham Hotspur. I am sure this will change again.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:29:00
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I have a feeling Sandro wants to go or wants more money so is looking for the best deal for himself which is fine as Levy will look for the best deal for THFC.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:30:00
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still not sold on Davies though! surely we can get a proven, finished article in this desperately needed position. and look outside of england / Wales for some proper value! imagine who United COULD have bought for 30m? take your pick from any LB in the world! the mind boggles!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:30:00
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Wow that is heavy Geof - it's like trying to find the meaning of life :) Personally I think if Spurs think of these variables it will lead to blame and failure. To breed success comes from talent, a winning mentality and luck. If that happens with Spurs everything will fall into place, failure and everything will fall apart. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
02/07/2014 12:31:00
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I'd take Ashley Cole. His experience would do us no harm IMO. Still, it's another unlikely purchase...
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:32:00
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what is ben davies contract status?does he have only 1 year left or a contract release to justify the 6-8million?michael laudrup said of davies"his destined for big things"during his time.
tarkan mardinCOYS
02/07/2014 12:33:00
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Man On, I would take A Cole over Cambiasso even though they are similar ages because we need a LB, we don't need Cambiasso for his playing as we have enough in midfield. A Cole would do a good job for us and will get game time but like you I doubt it will happen.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:34:00
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jvd ... You said scoring is the only variable in football ... then you said putting a team together and managing it is where the variables make the difference?! That’s what I was talking about ... the differences.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 12:34:00
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We need a wise old head somewhere in our young but talented squad. Who, I don't know.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:35:00
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But I will back Davies if he joins the mighty Spurs!

Onemore, the whole thing is dragging on so long. I think you are right, a deal should be done if they go to appeal. that article was stating Archway wanted £25m to move!?!? surely thats bollix. I thought we were niggling over a couple of mill, but you could see why we are fighting so hard if that figure has any truth associated!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:35:00
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Tarkan, I think his contract runs till 2016.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:35:00
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How many times have any of us planned to do something and it does not work out? How many times have we had an accident? Nothing is simple and everything is connected. Nothing works out just because we want it to. I’m struggling not to be too philosophical here but it’s difficult!
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 12:38:00
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we really will have a very young squad for the coming season! If we can give them some leadership on and off the pitch, and hold onto who we need, we really could be a powerhouse in a few years when they begin to mature and hit their peak years! I wonder if this is Levy's direction, or will we see more in and outs in the coming seasons? I have a feeling with the stadium build looking like it might actually get a go ahead, we will try to hold onto who we have and build a system under loch that will see us develop through this period! limited activity in windows after next summer, and stability to the fore. Thats what I think (hope).
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:39:00
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Dublin, £25m is madness, the CPO cannot be based on financial motive so Archway cannot use financial arguements for a CPO as it is whether it is in the public's interest to grant it. Like Onemore said if they lose and they appeal then that is when they can negotiate again. I think that it is taking long to get a decision on the CPO because the government want the decision to be watertight and any appeal not to have a chance of succeeding.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:39:00
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Dublin Hotspur. ENIC originally offered them a large piece of land to build a new factory on and a wad of cash. They are obviously fighting tooth and nail for the very best deal and in a way I can't blame them for that. Business is business. I've read that the owner of AS, and his family are Spurs fans. If true then show your support and get on with it all.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:42:00
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tarkan, see you have navigated to the Spurs site - old habits die hard, huh ?
Highgatespur
02/07/2014 12:44:00
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I hope you are right Kong, but it does seem the government hold a similar dislike to spurs as the media do! you would think that the regeneration of such a run down area would be a top priority for the government, especially going back over the volatility the area has presented over the last couple of years through riots and protests!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:45:00
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Is Pickles a Gooner and is the Archway Steel owner a Spurs fan but related to Pele10?
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:47:00
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you can change couple of years to 30 years!

Man on, there were also reports he was a gooner! but it doesn't really matter who he supports. he is trying to support himself I am sure, but as you say greed has taken over, and it is likely he will end up with feck all. If I was him (and as a spurs fan) I would take the new factory etc, the cash, and ask for a block of seats for me and my mates / family just above the dugouts, for life. as well as free pies and carlsberg, and the drummer to be allowed back, with flags being reinstated! thats not too much is it??
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:50:00
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Geofspurs. Being philosophical is a good thing. It makes for good reading and stimulates debate.
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:50:00
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The problem is the land is now worth a lot more then Spurs originally offered even in a area like N17 the price is at a London Premium!! I had an estate agent look at my place and value it a month ago. another came yesterday and valued it 100k more!! London property and land prices are the new California gold rush.........we will have to pay up or shut up I'm afraid!!
WestStandEnclosure
02/07/2014 12:52:00
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Dublin, Archway should have come to you to represent them. Great deal there.
Kong
02/07/2014 12:52:00
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Dublin Hotspur. If I were Levy, you'd have it all including, all expenses paid trips to Warsaw thrown in. Under the guise of a scouting expedition of course...
MAN ON!
02/07/2014 12:53:00
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Dublin, intricate politics here; the govt. feel embarrassed by the ignorance they showed before the riots and then by THFC stand over the OS... they probably thought dragging their feet would hide their petulance and 'pride'.... they are dragging the whole community down...
Highgatespur
02/07/2014 12:55:00
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Westend. that must be some pad you have. estate agents are notorious for bugging up values during boom times to get you on their books, and the opposite through slumps in order to have a hope in hell of selling the gaff! I suggest you sell and move to Tottenham, where prices, I am certain , are well below the going rates of most of the rest of London. get in now because when the regeneration happens, you could add another 100k to your kitty thanks to Mr Levy! ;)
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:56:00
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Cheers MAN.
Geofspurs
02/07/2014 12:58:00
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That sounds perfect Man on! I would have a space for you on my row of seats of course, and a seat on the plane to Warsaw, timed around the Eurovison final, of course!
Dublin Hotspur
02/07/2014 12:59:00
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highgate-have you renewed your fictitious season ticket yet?
tarkan mardinCOYS
02/07/2014 13:00:00
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