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Transfer Activity Outlook - An Update

With the squad now back in pre-season training, I thought I'd take the opportunity to update my original 'Transfer Activity Outlook' article in early June under the headings raised in that article:

(1) Possible Key Player Exodus: Based on last week's reported developments, Sandro's departure to Naples seems to have been kiboshed with Spurs bumping up his transfer fee to a blocking level of 25m Euros (£20m), suggesting that we're no longer prepared to let him leave, and implying that he is both disposed to signing a new contract and is also on Poch's 'stay' list. The other concern is Lloris, who despite stating his willingness to stay, is also being spoken of as a possible departure to PSG: the ITK-vine says we'll consider selling him - but only for 'silly money`.

(2) The Clearout Exodus: On the sales front, Livermore & Gomes are gone and it seems that Dawson is on his way; I'm unaware of BAE's status, other than he has a year left on his contract, while Brad has signed up for another year, doubling up as a club Ambassador; and Siggi is also on the exit list. ITKs say Poch wants to see players in training before deciding who goes.

(3) The Recruitment Drive: In the LB area, while the signing of Ben Davies protracts and possibly cools, the name Faouzi Ghoulam (Naples) crept into the picture over the weekend, and it remains to be seen whether he's a Naples proposal to help make up the £20m to buy Sandro; our RB interest has moved to Aurier (Toulouse); at CB, Moreno (Espanyol) broke a leg in a recent WC match & Lovren's 'head is already (elsewhere)' so we've moved on to Lascelles and the 5' 11' Veltman(Ajax).

In MF. I'm going to ignore the Cambiasso rumours and point out that Poch wants Brozovic (Dynamo Zagreb), a young creative MF, which I think reflects the fact that we had no back-up for Eriksen last season and therefore have a gap in the squad.

Up front, getting Remy looks like a toss-up, and we've moved on from our interest in Bony & Lukaku (although an un-named Metro reporter thinks otherwise), but we've yet to throw in the towel on signing Origi (Lille) and we're also considering the Liege striker Imoh Ezekiel.

On the left wing, our interest in the PSV wing duo Memphis Depay & Zakaria Bakkali is unlikely to develop further till after the WC, while we retain our interest in Yacine Brahimi (Granada) Its also clear that we're looking for a back-up GK, with Karl Darlow (Forest) a big favourite for the role among many clubs in the Top 6, and we're also looking at Michel Vorn (Swansea).

Finally, I'm unsure whether our interest in a RB is exploratory - a contingency to cover off the risk of a longer-term Walker injury - or real, and therefore whether the relative inactivity is due to an inability to free up a defensive slot to proceed with a deal.

In summary, the focus of our recruitment drive this summer is clearly on a LB, a CB, a LWF, at least 1, if not 2 FWDs, a creative MF & a back-up GK - thats up to 7 recruits, or a minimum of 4 recruits (if Holtby fills creative MF slot, Archer fills back-up GK role, & we only recruit 1 FWD). Given that Poch wants to see players in training before deciding who goes, signings are likely to be slow this summer, and consequently we could miss out on key targets.

Written by RathgarSpur




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Date:Wednesday July 9 2014

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Your Comments

Left back !?.....why do we need a Leftback !?.....we have quite a few possibles for that position...including Ekotto (not 31 till next march). Another Poss' striker...."EDER"...Sporting Braga / Portugal.
82spursdebut
Happy that poch is taking a look first...but am concerned if they delay too long we will be settling for second choice in all areas. Said on another post I'd be happy with LB, LA, and CB. Think we can manage other areas.
jhbspur
‘Adds up to seven new recruits’ ... that rings a bell ... a warning bell?!
Geofspurs
Sorry and I don't mean to be insulting but I think you or your sources are deluded if you think Levy is going to shell out for a bunch of new players after last seasons expenditure. Yes we will sign a LB and poss CB but why do we need a striker we have Kane Ade and Sol, who will have a great season under Pooch. We need stabiltyin the squad not more disruption and incomings and outgoings. We hav a fantastic squad so lets see how they perform under Pooch at least for 1 season. I would get rid of Paulhinio though, danaged goods and not that good anyway, does not have the attributes to be a bx to box player or a DM.
Horny Helen
3 strikers in a 25 man squad competing in 4 competitions...is not good enough to properly compete. Man.city...were the most successful club last season. They had Dzeko,Aguero,Negredo,Jovetic.
82spursdebut
activity outlook?...bleak!...we don't do spending unless we can sell players of the same or greater value than those we are buying to cover the cost (and usually make a profit)... a few mill profit last summer add Gio's 4m sell on clause, Defoe and dawkins - 6.5m in Jan, add on's for Bale/modric winning the cl, c8m Livermore....yet we still can't afford quality players! wtf are the board doing with all the ticket, TV and commercial revenue???...I'd hazard a guess they are busy feathering their property nests in order to take the most money out of any football club ever!....and they're being applauded for it....
shedboy2
3 senior strikers is enough but Kane isn't there yet...and if you don't think we need a LB then you must have been watching with your eyes closed....we don't have 1 player who is a top half PL LB, not one....
shedboy2
My pick of the bunch would be ...

BAKKALI.. LOVREN.. DAVIES... SADIO MANE...
Yidmarks
Paulinho is a class act but clearly he needs to sort his head out. I just get the feeling he doesn't want to be at Spurs. If that's the case we should try to help him find another club. We need a CB and LB more than any other position and another top class goalkeeper would be good for the squad COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Thanks for the article... Interesting take on the transfer activities. IMO this subject could have broken the record for being the shortest by stating 'zilch'! Laughable but accurate....
Highgatespur
Yidmarks. Saw a mention of Sadio Mane previously. Know nothing about him myself.....can u give us an overview?
jhbspur
Shedboy.....I was watching the first 3rd of last season.....when THFC...kept numerous clean sheets, broke records...with a back 5 of lloris,Walker,Dawson,Vertonghen,Rose. It...only went pear shaped when some players (notably..Walker/Rose)...tried too hard to help the lack of scoring at the opposition end...when others failed to score. Defenders primary roles...is to defend.....and so on. Good coaching is what is required at THFC....to get the best out of the current nearly 40 pros' available. MP.and co' have 2 months approx'...to decide on their 25. I suggest....they look for goalscorers first.
82spursdebut
82spursdebut - why do we need a left back you ask. Did you watch us last season I ask ? Did you see how many goals came from left back ? Did you watch BAE when at Spurs & at QPR & in World Cup ? A good player at times, but far too laid back, ill disciplined and an accident waiting to happen. Sorry, but Yes, we need a left back and a Centre Back as our top priorities for me. Hopefully both will also be big, strong characters as we need winners & leaders in this team to add to the talent.
Windlespur
Windlespur.....we have Rose,Bae,Fryers,Vertonghen,Naughton,Townsend. As previously posted....I'd be thinking 3,5,2....with Walker,Naughton,Frederick........Rose,Fryers,Townsend....as possible wing backs.........Dawson,Kaboul,Vertonghen,Veljkovik,Chiriches,Capoue,Sandro......as the possibles for the 3 centre back roles.
82spursdebut
NEVER play Naughton at left back & Verts is decent there, but seems to not want to play there. Townsend can not defend & is a definite no for a wing back role. My views on BAE & Rose are as above - so that really just leaves a largely untried Fryers. Too late now, but an Ashley Cole in would have given us a big Uplift in terms of - great defender, winner, quality, experience. Sorry, but still think a good LB Must be a priority & another CB (as Dawson needs to be moved, Kaboul too injury prone & Capoue/Sandro are DM's). I x new Left Back, Minimum 1 x new CB please. Both need to be winners, strong characters etc etc
Windlespur
When Dawson goes.. Lloris for captain, this will give Hugo some extra authority to "encourage" the players who are slacking in a game... Kane will be a sheringham type of player, as he has a similar attitude, and movements to his game, so MP will keep him. We really need 2 or 3 new players, of which one is non PL experienced. COYS
Block D Spurs
Well..Gordon Strachan...thought Townsend would make a ideal left wingback.......he is a strong character and proven winner. Like you say...Put Vertonghen there....he was ok playing there for Belgium recently. THFC..pay his wages.
82spursdebut
James ... I agree about the LB and CB, but I can’t see any ‘top-class’ GK willing to play second fiddle.
Geofspurs
Bae...helped Qpr get promoted from a difficult league....personally, I would only consider him for a 4,4,2,,formation. Fredericks...is as quick as Walker ..right side. Naughton is a steady right back. Lennon....once my fav' player...but now expendable, for a goalscorer. Rose....has a value...either at THFC...or perhaps Monaco. Fryers...could do a decent job. Vertonghen will play left back....he proved that, the other day. 3,5,2...can work for English football....it did in the 1990 world cup.....and Juventus.../ chile...have both recently done well with it.
82spursdebut
Agree Geof. The goalkeeper I had in mind is a keeper with potential to be no1 but looking to play in cups and back up in PL. All depends on Lloris. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Don’t see much percentage in discussing different formations or even new players really. MP is the manager and he will play the formation he wants with the players he chooses ... as it should be. Everything else is irrelevant.
Geofspurs
I like Poch's agenda.He wants to see what we've got before spending money.What's the point in buying another bunch of players before he has worked with what we've got.We did finish 6th after all.Unless a world class player wants to join us ,please no more average players.
Greavesaboveall
Im with Horney Helen(i wish) my be 2 signings at the most and yes 3 strikers is enough if only playing one up top
spurs50yrs
the Transfer update is: Livermore and Gomes gone. Thats it no other business has been done, the only other update I could offer is spurs have been linked with a host of football players. The vast bulk of which are total fabrications!
Slurms McKenzie
Got to gauge the squad and the personalities within the squad. parachuting 4 or 5 players in won't help the demoralised and deflated squad we have currently!
Slurms McKenzie
Adebayor.....may be involved with the African nations cup...qualifying and finals......sept' to feb'.
82spursdebut
82spursdebut-rose was poor to average at the start of the season yet dembele was getting the stick despite having to defend the whole left side...after Rose got injured he became a much better player...when he came back he was poor to terrible! We started scoring after Andros was replaced..then Ade came in...I agree we need a goal scorer but LB has to be a priority...not one of those you list is a PL top half LB....not one. As for 442 and playing Verts at LB...I guess you really have been watching with your eyes shut...;)
shedboy2
With the impending signings of Sanchez and Debuchy by Arsenal, together with the transfer activity at City, Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool, along with the activity by the likes of Newcastle, Hull, Southampton amongst the "also ran" clubs, this leaves us, as the only remaining PL club worthy of the name, to do anything in the market, except of course Everton, but they borrow, or beg players, rather than buy them. We have sold Livermore and shortly apparently Dawson, we have seen Gomes depart, but we have failed to move at all on incomers. This suggests either that we think we are already good enough, which we aren't, or we are once again displaying a total lack of will or ambition to compete with our main rivals, in the process of squad improvement. After last summer's nonsense of signing 7 mediocre players (or 6 if we discount Eriksen from that) in a "kid in a sweet shop" spending spree, we just should not throw our arms in the air, and resign from transfer activity. We should admit mistakes, circulate the problem players as available, put realistic prices on their heads as failures, and move on, this time signing 2 or 3 real quality players who are very likely to improve us in acknowledged problem positions. We all know Levy's penchant for his last minute bargains, but his foot dragging is the reason why we are never properly prepared in pre-season, and always start at a disadvantage to our rivals. We can't blame the WC, it has not stopped others signing, and preparing to sign, top quality players, who are likely game changers and match winners. We will no doubt end up with a couple of late journeyman signings who are incapable of making a real difference. This is the price we pay as a club, and fans, due to be being owned by profit driven bean counters, rather than genuinely ambitious football club owners. The process we need to go through is similar to that faced by Brendan Rodgers when he succeeded Dalglish at Liverpool, and had to move out his farcical signings like Carroll among others, before starting again in building a squad that has gone from 7th in the PL in 2012-13, to 2nd and a CL qualification in 2013-14. It can be done it only needs the will and ambition to succeed, something we have been seriously lacking from a football, rather than financial point of view, in the last 14 years, with only HR rocking the boat by getting us into the CL, a situation that Levy and Co. have made certain is not going to happen again, it is too expensive to remain competitive, lets settle for mediocraty it is cheaper. Never mind though at least we have built a Sainsbury's, we should be very proud. Once again I sympathise and totally agree with Shedboy's assessment of our position.
Frank
Greavesaboveall ... I agree. Seems like the sensible way for MP to go.
Geofspurs
Spot on, Geofspurs.
Airwave
LW is the priorty as this will ahve the biggest knock on effect for the sqaud it will bring balance to our midfiedl it will take the pressure off the LB and off soem level of defensive cover for them as well, which may actually see Rose improve, it should aslo allow our midfield players to stay more central adn off secondary options on attacks, while hopefully bring some meaningful crosses and shots from the left hand side. To change the LB but not address the left wing will mean the new player will suffer the same fate as Rose last season!. The purchase of a new LB may allow Fryers to move to the CB position and eliminate teh need to buy another CB. Two signigns and the squad is improved dramatically. The only problem is that we may need to buy a second LW aswell to cover injuries, suspension and recovery time. we don't have one in the squad currently hence out left flank problems. Eriksen and siggy drift too central when played here. Chadli doesn't seem to have the pace to offer an attacking threat and Townsend doesn't offer enough defensively and is not composed enough going forward. We maybe able to coach him into being a better LW but can we afford the time? Ideally he would be good enough to offer cover and bridge the gap to McEvoy coming through!
Slurms McKenzie
We started the season with one of the meanest defences in Europe, but unable to score many goals. We ended the season by topping all of the top 5 leagues in Europe for defensive errors...21. I don't think this can all be laid at Sherwood's feet. The defence was simply not good enough. and as the season progressed our frailties became more exposed add to this injuries and unbalanced Left side and it became clear where we were struggling...namely the Left side.

I maintain that to give us the best chance we need as a minimum...1 CB, ( One with pedigree as opposed to potential) 1 LB (Again, not a youth prospect in the hope we can make a quick buck) and a LW, one who is able to cross the ball AND score goals. Let's not forget, we need the wingers to add goals if we are to play a lone striker.
Cider spurs
RathgarSpur. Thanks for the article. My problem with it all is, that when taking in to account your last sentence, it seems odd to me that we should be showing interest in so many players, when Poch obviously has had no time at all to assess what we already have.
MAN ON!
shedboy2...oh dear.....is that the best you can do !?.....no need to lie, it's just a talking forum.of opinions. Fact is....we were solid at the back..for 1st part of last season...to which Rose played a massive part. ...never said play 4,4,2....but if we did....I'd consider Bae for left back. Vertonghen...ideal CB of 3...in 3,5,2....or left wingback....imo. Have fun....gonna listen to cricket now..."Come on you Spurs....and England".
82spursdebut
some comments I saw on another site...seems to sum up the mood...
'Listen this is the management who faced with a historic run in the Champions League led by two of the greatest midfielders modern Premier League has ever seen…. brought in Ryan Nelsen and Saha. None of this matters. We’re forever doomed.'

and

I pop in for a read now and again but not a lot worth debating tbh, we’re starting to feel as a club a tad irrelevant.
I’ve been saying we’re skint and we need to sell before we buy for 7 years on here, it’s horrible being proved right every year. I wish I was wrong but in the PL money talks
ENIC’s business plan is looking as dated as that brazil team, the goons are closing a deal for sanchez (a real world class star) & we’re looking at nobodies from swansea, depressing '
shedboy2
people keep going on about playing a Rodriguez Role, please explain what a Rodriguez Role is? It is becoming a bit of a cliche that need clarification.
Horny Helen
HH ... I agree with you on the strikers. We can make do with the ones we have. There are more important positions we need to improve, imo.
Geofspurs
82spursdebut- where's the lie?
shedboy2
frank-"the process we need to go through is similar to that they faced by brendan rodgers when he succeeded Dalglish at pool".spot on
tarkan mardinCOYS
but the bindippers were prepared to lose money in the process knowing they fecked up.BUT daniel levy will not do this,he would want all his money back.not happenning
tarkan mardinCOYS
FRANK, i couldn't disagree more, to get rid of players with one season after 2 poor managers is not the way to go, let MP see what he has then make a decision, yes we wont get players in for awhile but my be we only need a couple, LB, CB thats it because we are ample else were
spurs50yrs
Feck Arsenal!...So they get Sanchez, yep another player suited to the Right wing. Great!...OH! hold on, Walcott and Chamberlain play that role. Yeah, so Sanchez can play striker, performance certainly suffers when he is the lone striker however. No doubting his ability, but has he really made them a whole lot stronger.

I remember not too long ago Walcott stating he wanted the striker berth through the middle, I see nothing more than fallout ensuing at Arsenal with all these same type players being signed. Feck them, Let's concentrate on Spurs and vote on which day we should choose for the open top bus parade showing of our newly claimed Premier League trophy. COYS!.
Cider spurs
Liverpool's league position prior to last season was 7th, 6th, 8th, 7th then 2nd. Brendan Rogers took over a team that with lower expectation levels. Yes he did make changes but lets see what he does this season.
Kong
Some people feel the need to rebuild almost an entire team it seems. In the grand scheme of things finishing 6th, after what I'm sure we will all agree on, was a bad season, is not a crisis. It will surely set us back more if we now go and try to integrate a whole load of new guys in to the squad. New players trying to gel with current players that haven't yet gelled themselves? Why would Poch want to make his job tougher than it already is?
MAN ON!
Man on-because he should get a free hit getting his own players and getting them to gel.just like brendan rodgers was
tarkan mardinCOYS
Does anyone believe the Metro? COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Hear Hear MAN ON well said
spurs50yrs
We will not be spending much this window. It was said last season, again I'll state, we will be looking to improve what we have under the stewardship of Poch. We will only make signings in key areas, we will be looking to offload more than we bring in, all other business will be about potential unless a truly amazing offer presents itself that is too good to turn down.

I don't think we'll even be getting a LW, I think Poch will work with Townsend and Chadli, maybe even reinstating Rose as a LW with a new LB signed and Fryers as second fiddle.

I think Remy should be added to the current strikers, he can play anywhere LWF,CF,RWF so would provide great options. His signing would allow us to cover the option of two positions some feel we are short in. LW and striker. Ade playing well, Remy LWF, Lamela RWF. Ade off the boil, Remy switch to CF. £8 million?...Got Levy written all over it. With Sanchez to Arsenal almost done, I think our striker business regarding Remy will happen pretty soon.
Cider spurs
MAN ON! the defence is priority. Everything else should wait imo. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
Draxler apparently report the Metro? And Origi in for talks today. I think i'd cum if we got them both. Sebastian Short Maybe we can cum together Seb HHXX
Horny Helen
How can anybody say our strikers "will do for now", does everybody forget our abysmally disgraceful GD figure last season? Do we expect to get a minimum of 20 penalties, this season so that Soldado can justify his fee. The most important factor in football is scoring goals, that after all is the objective of the game, to score more than the opposition, it doesn't matter if it is 1-0 or 5-4 you have to score more than them or you can't prevail. If it is not obvious to some that we lack creativity, and penetration, as well as quality at CB and LB then I think "they should go to Specsavers". It was hard to keep up last season, as 6th place, and a scraped by the skin of our teeth EL position proves, but given the quality World class signings being made by rivals, it will be harder this time, as we appear to be determined to do nothing of note to improve.
Frank
cider-than we have hired a monkey grinder
tarkan mardinCOYS
Cider ... A SUNNY SUNDAY!
Geofspurs
Then again...Remy might join Arsenal. Like the great Toyah once sang...IT'S A MYSTHEREE...OH IT'S A MYSTHEREE.
Cider spurs
Geof...I know you are a few hours ahead in Sunny OZ, but surely it's not Sunday already?. ;-)
Cider spurs
James ... I agree with you. The one thing I would like to see is that we start the season with a STRONG back line.
Geofspurs
Shedboy2 and Frank- top, top posts. glad some of us can see the reality.82spurs you must be smoking wacky backy if you think left back position is covered. lol
topspur53
Frank, we cant blame just the strikers for our lack of goals, and the poor service they had im not surprised we were poor, with better team plan and another season under there belt we will improve for sure
spurs50yrs
Frank ... You can blame two areas for a poor goal difference, not just the strikers. If we’d had an organised defence and a working MF we would have scored more and conceded less. Our goal difference would have looked much better. I think we need to improve the defence more than the attack because Levy is not going to improve both.
Geofspurs
It's not even sunny ... cold, wet, and windy.
Geofspurs
very windy indeed
spurs50yrs
We need a strikers, we always need strikers, it has been what's stopped us progressing for the past 5 years? Even if Poch sorts out the rest of the team if we are left with a bored Ade, still out of form Soldado and a inexperienced Kane we'll never get near top 4.

Also we need improvements at the back, previous years we were solid but 6-0, 5-0, 5-1, 4-0 and 4-0 says last year we might have lost the plot - sorry to remind you but let's not be deluded into thinking we were any good - wholesale changes are required.

Midfield I think we have everything needed in our squad and it is just about getting the most from our players - one brilliant addition, someone Poch not Baldini or Levy wants would be great but has to be his man and has to be exceptional.
T.H.F.Chris
Frank.. We weren't working well as a team. From back to front we had problems. We can blame both the defence and attack. One area we tend not to blame is our midfield. Could it be that that this was the main problem area? Not enough hard work, cohesion and understanding and, lacking the effort and skills needed to support our defence and be creative in linking our forward play.
MAN ON!
Wholesale changes are NOT NEEDED that is so WRONG
spurs50yrs
get a LB get a CB , get Bony. sorted till Poch works with the others.tweak it in January window if need be.
topspur53
i disagree somewhat with those who say midfield is sorted.it may be sorted in terms of numbers but not sure quality wise are good enough.
tarkan mardinCOYS
a centralmidfield of sandro,dembele and paulinho will not work.far too similar and not pochettino types.
tarkan mardinCOYS
The quality is there it just needs tinkering and putting people in the right place
spurs50yrs
man on- spot on about the lack of effort from the midfield. Cider- Remy will go to the Gooners
topspur53
BONY
tarkan mardinCOYS
In defence it is 50yrs; scoring own goals for fun, getting sent off, contending in the first minute we were awful.

MAN ON I agree the midfield had a lot to be blamed for but I think the players are good enough, manager just needs to mange them better.

1 or 2 strikers, 1 midfielder, 2-3 first choice defenders.
T.H.F.Chris
I don't think midfield can escape blame...trouble is people are quick to blame CM...the main problem has been from the flanks...Eriksen put in some good performances from the left going forward but neglected his defensive duties, Gylfi couldn't do anything well enough there, Chadli hasn't had much of a chance but looks a bit one paced...on the other side we had Andros not passing, not tracking etc to be replaced by a better team player in Lennon but one who doesn't suit the current formation and doesn't offer enough of a goal threat...imo we could really use a LW...we can ship out gylfi and andros to pay for him without missing them!
shedboy2
T.H.F.Chris. I agree. I think we have a very talented squad.
MAN ON!
we keep being linked with Daley Blind....not for me, not good enough for LB or DM.
shedboy2
In my mind we should get the Ben Davies deal closed quickly and then have an all out assault on John Stones and Lascelles. Every one of the top clubs is looking for a centre half so destabilising Everton seems like the right move. Garay has gone to Zenit and I just don't see the European based top centre halves becoming available. We need to build a new core of homegrown players and need to be aggressive in the market and be prepared to phase out Dawson, Siggy, Naughton, Rose, Lennon etc. The striker purchase can wait until January when we can assess how our lot are doing. Obviously we have our new superstar signing for the new season, Erik Lamela. I have high hopes for him under Poch.
muttley
I'm not expecting top 4. We should look to aim for top 4 but I would like to see a settled team with football improvements I.e solid defence and fast, penetrating attacking football coupled with tactical nous. Anything better than top 6 (a cup win) woild be great. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
I will mention this again. I don't believe enough people on here are allowing for the tremendous upheaval at our club last season and the effect it had on many players. Changing a Head Coach/Manager mid season, changing philosophy and methods, are extremely disruptive. I find it disingenuous for people to criticize players for failing to live up to expectations under those circumstances.

we need to give Pochettino a chance to work with these guys and build them into a team. Take Holtby for example. He came with very good credentials and played his heart out whenever he got to play. He can run, can think, can pass, yet he is almost thrown out with the bath water. Poch will turn him around as well as Lamella. I will bet we will also see Fryers and Velckovich(?) playing and blooming under Poch's guidance. Yes we need a LB but I guarantee you will see a revitalized CB grouping who are already here. Give Kaboul a break. He came back from a serious injury and needed games to get back confidence and speed, Chriches needed to come to grips with the PL, Verts was a demoraliser man, he didn't just magically become a bad player. And truly Dawson isn't a bad backup as many of you paint him. I could go on but the point is we had a "lost season" last year. Lets not think the solution is to go and buy new players willy nilly. The solution is a sound coach and manager with a proper vision and the ability to inspire these players.
jvd
a LB, LW and Striker...hardly an over haul. Davies and Jay Rodriguez - just two signings for 3 positions would plug the holes (get bruno martins Indi instead of Davies and two players for 4 positions inc CB!)..not marquee or overly ambitious but they would improve our squad...CB - if we are selling daws then surely Kaboul is fit? the 4 cb's we have are pretty good...we can always freshen up though but not the priority some are making out.
shedboy2
btw, I don't think the quality is there in defence. If we need 10 squad players including the GK's then we have 5 - Lloris, Walker, Kaboul, Chiriches, Vertonghen. Brad isn't up to a number 2, Naughton isn't up to backup RB, Dawson needs to be sold and I'm not sure none of Ekotto, Rose or Fryers are the answer at LB. That is, if we have top 4 aspirations. We won't plug all 5 gaps in one transfer window but it would be good to cover 2 or 3 of them otherwise Poch will be gambling on keeping his best defenders always playing or putting more emphasis on defensive midfield and sacrificing attack like AVB did.
muttley
Also, a little surprised that Everton have handed Barry a 3 year deal at the age of 33.
muttley
LB, CB & a no9. That's all we need. If we want PL experience then its Davies, Loveren and Bony. I would be over the moon with that. We have so many options in other areas and MP could very well get the best out of the likes of Lamela, Chadli, Townsend etc

Guys, seriously do not get your hopes up about the Draxler and Lukaku rumours. There is no way in hell that would happen. This is DL we are talking about, the guy who is trying to swap Siggy for Vorm AND Davies. What a w@nk3r that man is.
hudderspur
I would be very surprised if Dawson is still at the club after the transfer window closes. If Pocho can't find a better replacement he should stay but Pocho's team is all about pressing with a high line. Dawson lacks pace and like Tarkan said, the midfield which Pocho will want is some injection of pace and I'm sure the defence will get some of that as well. Walker and Fredericks is covered at RB unless he goes for an established RB, but a commanding CB is needed to play with Vert and a LB, our most troublesome area for the last 2 seasons. Can we trust injury prone Kaboul as CB? Dawson is slow and Vert is no slouch but his reading of the game makes him quicker. Just prone to switching off. We also need a keeper with bags of potential who could take on the no1 spot. So the keeper will be the sweeper and will need to be quick off the mark and be able to read the game and smell danger. So much for Pocho to deal with. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
hudders- your spot on about Del boy (Levy)
topspur53
Spurs50yrs, I am afraid the quality is not there, and hasn't been there, since we stripped out our major assets without adequate replacement, as is our usual practice. We lack quality at LB, CB, a creative midfield player, and a 20 goal/season striker. Of course we won't buy all of these in this window, it is not feasable but to deny the need is naive. Last summer we payed too much money, for too little quality, particularly in 3 deals £27-30M for Erik Lamela, a "promising" player, rather than one with the proven sustained undeniable match winning quality, that you should expect for that money, the £26M for Soldado, an aging, and very limited striker, which was obvious from his career stats, as several of us pointed out, and we were proven to be right by his performances, and abysmal goal scoring record, surpassed by Kane in very few appearances, for this fee you expect more than penalty conversions, and then the £17M for Paulinho who joined a growing army of very similar CMFers, none of whom is a game changer or match winner, able to dictate the pace of the game, or create. It seems that there is a marked reluctance, both at the top of the club, and among some fans, to admit that we got it wrong last summer, spending £109M on 7 players, when what was needed was 3-4 top quality players, and to end up with Christian Eriksen, as the only apparently ready for the PL player, and that we now need to attempt to rectify the mistakes, and move on. I repeat that this was exactly the position that Liverpool found themselves in when Dalglish left. What did they do, they regrouped, appointed Brendan Rodgers, backed him in the market, and the rest as they say is history. What we now need to do, is to move on some failed or dead wood players, and seek to sign 2 or 3 genuine quality players, capable of making a difference and assuming the role of game changers, or match winners. It is, and should always be a question of quality above quantity. I would also remind some, that I and others urged the club to make Wilfried Bony our striker signing last summer, rather than Soldado, based on the type of striker he is, as well as his remarkable goal scoring stats at Vittesse, and his Dutch POTY award in his last season, his age at 24 and his fee, which was half what we payed for Soldado. Alas he joined Swansea, who gained from his 24 goals in all comps, and he is now worth circa £20M, but then what do we know.
Frank
Went to the donkey fair in july last season and got the best breeds there was.now look at the mess of donkey crap we have all over the pitches.bakkali as to be no1 and a left back as we dont have one.enough said. Coys
bazdog
no one should call michael dawson a donkey
tarkan mardinCOYS
Frank. It's very easy to say we should have bought this or that player but it seems all the other clubs bar Swansea, also missed Bony.
MAN ON!
bazdog. Perhaps you could try supporting another team......
MAN ON!
Some brilliant posts about our underachieving owners on here! I can put my feet up today... By the way guys, it was a nightmare being in Berlin last night! It felt like World War 3 had begun with the fireworks going off all over the city when the game ended! Not a nice place at all for an Englishman with Brazilian family to be last night!!! ;-)
Pele10
Pele10.... Imagine the reaction if Germany win it.....
MAN ON!
Cannot see too many changes people are asking for and speculating about. Poch will want to see what this squad is actually capable of and see if they embrace his methods before splashing out, I don't think he is in any rush. My guess is he will stick with what we have, last summer too many players were brought at once, not going to happen again. He will prioritise and bring in may be two at best imo. Start going for more then you start to see the same problems as last season, integrating too many players. Two first teamers any more will be back up imo. I also think it will depend on who comes in for our players, who will go first as well.

I think his prioritising will have to be done which area he thinks is the weakest and needs a new player which will probably mean we will still be in need of reinforcements after this window, he is not going to reinforce all weak areas at once in one window.

If you look at our weaknesses last season they were all over the pitch other than Lloris and Eriksen I cannot say anyone else played that well consistently. Ade had some good games, but dropped off. lennon tried hard in most games but it didn't always pay off and Dawson gave everything as he does but often it wasn't good enough. Other than that we were poor all over the pitch, we cannot replace that many players if you look at our weaknesses last season. Poch will not go mad and disrupt the squad too much this season, he will grind out the players that are up for it, committed and only bring in at most two new starters imo.
BigSpursFan
Pele imagine being in The Slums last night, methinks many dare not sleep.
T.H.F.Chris
MAN ON! I know! A terrifying thought! I am just trying to work out who will have the better chance of beating the Kraut's? Argentina or the Orange brigade? Who do you reckon? I would think probably Holland who are as physically strong and disciplined, and have those two World Class attackers Van Persie and Robben the boy fell over... I don't care! I just want the country silenced on Saturday and then take a beautiful stroll through the deserted city... ;-)
Pele10
I like Forest GK watched him a lot last season. I think if we get him for the future, loan him back with a clause that says we can recall him if Lloris gets injured then that would do it. Brad can cover cup games and Lloris PL and Europa. However, would we trust Brad or our youngster or the Forest GK to cover PL if Lloris did get injured, probably not but what can we do. A back up Gk for PL is hard to find when they know Lloris is no 1 for some time. This is where we need to bring in a GK young enough and hungry enough and start playing them, preparing them for the possibility of PL if Lloris gets injured. Brad is too old imo and not the same type of keeper to replace Lloris, this has to be the last season Brad is backup, we need to bring a GK capable of sitting on the bench knowing they may be called upon.
BigSpursFan
I would not change out anything other than surplus players, players who absolutely want out and deals we just can't refuse for players who play positions we are short on. IMO, we need a CB and a number 2 keeper. Beyond that, I would let the coach develop players as is his supposed forte and evaluate before the January window to determine which of the players we have that will just not suit a Pochettino system. I can see BAE and Dawson going along with Sigurdsson, who is just the odd man out. Anything else will have to be too good to refuse whether it's a deal on a player we like or a ridiculous fee for a squad player who wants to go. We'll see. Too much change would not be great. Priority must be on qualifying for group stages. COYS
peterballb
Pele10... I would now like to see a Germany v Netherlands final but I'm not biased either way. After last night it would seem that anything is possible. I think that the Dutch will just edge it. I hope it's another great spectacle but it could also turn out to be a kicking and diving contest tonight.
MAN ON!
BSF you are right the mass overhaul in one window turned us into a completely disjointed team... A wise move would be to split the purchases into 2 windows to allow players gel with each other. We need 2x strikers, 1x midfielder and 3x defenders; I would suggest a striker, 'quality' midfielder of pof's choice (or none), and 2 defenders this window. And then a 2nd striker and 3rd defender in January. Problem with this is levy doesn't like to pay the winter premiums.
T.H.F.Chris
Why people thought last night game was going to be any different than it was is beyond me. Brazil have imo been average and woeful at times. The adrenalin carried them through most games with their star player helping them out. They have never looked organised and they have never looked that much of a threat other than their star player at times.

Germany, are organised, hard to beat and have some quality players, it was obvious they were going to beat Brazil and that Brazil would be found out. The midfield of Brazil is average, their defense especially without Silva is average and their attack is average without their star man. They played on that adrenalin and you cannot maintain that when you come up against a organised, experienced side like Germany.

Paulinho tried very hard when he came on but has he really shown us that he is worth 17m we paid for him - No imo. Personally, Paulinho, Dembele, Chadli have all flopped in the WC. vertonghen seemed to do ok at LB but even he hasn't been outstanding.

I never liked Tim but I do think he said one thing that may be was near the truth. These players crying about wanting to play for a team that has CL football need to prove they are CL players. From the WC I don't think any of these players have shown anything to us for us to get excited about.
BigSpursFan
Peterball knowing all their limitations are you really confident Ade, Soldado and Kane can form a top 4 strike force for the whole of the season. I'm not.
T.H.F.Chris
Shedboy ... I don’t think we can rely on Kaboul’s fitness. I think we need a strong, CB with a bit of pace if we play a high-line.
Geofspurs
BigSpursFan.. 5-0 after 29 mins?
MAN ON!
Can’t avoid the feeling that we have too many squad players and not enough ‘stand-out’ players.
Geofspurs
T.H.F.Chris-We may have to wait until next summer. May be two this summer, 1 in January and two or three next summer after we see who has embraced Poch's methods and are up to it.

I would say this summer a CB and a striker is most important, although LB is a problem imo, so at best three.
BigSpursFan
MAN ON -I accept 5 nil after 29 minutes was more than I expected but I wasn't surprised by the thrashing. I always felt Brazil were always on the edge of an hiding, and it didn't surprise me that they crumbled. It was so obvious to me.
BigSpursFan
Brazil were playing like Spurs were last season. Scraping through, disorganised and when we were up against it we crumbled, the signs were there for Brazil, just like they were for us last season.
BigSpursFan
MAN ...As you say, anything can happen ... I'm still hoping Australia will win it!!
Geofspurs
BigSpursFan.. I know... After losing their 2 key players I did favour Germany but to watch Brazil crumble so spectacularly did surprise me.
MAN ON!
Geof, An Australia v Algeria final would have been a fair outcome I think.
MAN ON!
Geofspurs- we'll have to trust the medical team on Kaboul...when fit he's perfect for the system....
shedboy2
MAN ...Australia v Algeria, wouldn't that have been something!
Geofspurs
Shed ... I’m beginning to think that the medical staff are more of a worry than Kaboul. Why are players out for so long and how do they get so many injuries when they’re not even playing?!
Geofspurs
Big headline in the Metro says Spurs make £17m bid for Draxler and then the first line of the article reads, "Tottenham are 'readying' a bid for long term Arsenal target Julian Draxler according to the Metro... That about sums up media transfer speculation for me...
MAN ON!
those saying wait and don't do any business...really? you think moPo can 'train' players in a few weeks? Do you think our strikers will be any younger this time next year? we'll have two strikers over 30, about the age performances start to drop on average...can you see Levy buying two next year?....we have limited opportunity to improve, we should always be doing just that when trying to balance out a team of elite athletes...they will get old, they will lose form, they will be coveted by other clubs, some will never be up to the standard...a little change each window beats having drastic change forced on us...
shedboy2
geof- they must get injured in training...you know that thing they never do under a previous manager....;)
shedboy2
shed...lol nice to know they're training!
Geofspurs
to be fair, paulinho looked better than fernandinho last night though, the player they really needed was sandro. why scolari thought it a good idea to play fred is beyond me, although i did feel sorry for him when he constantly booed when he appeared on the big screen. Brazil needed their team and tactics spot on and scolari had an absolute mare. how could such a successful manager get so many decisions so wrong throughout the tournament.. I like argentina but i think perhaps holland with the tactical acumen of van gaal would probably have a better chance of beating the germans.
Guernman
Paulinho is not the player for Spurs or the Prem league. That has become clear. I think Holtby is better suited to the Prem. David Luiz might be available for peanuts, any takers?
vicspur
David Luiz has signed for PSG for almost £60m Vicspur. I bet Mourinho & Abramovich are still laughing today!! Even before the WC Luiz was an average player, maybe £20m at most. It just goes to show that these FFP rules mean absolutely nothing and it’s just the team with the most money (or loans) who will win in the end. I love the premier league don’t get me wrong, but football in general is in rapid decline and is becoming a very tedious, predictable sport at club level.
hudderspur
Must admit, it does frustrate me when it keeps coming back to the 7 new players. At the end of the day, it was down to the existing squad members having a meltdown that was the biggest reason the new player failed to settle and perform. Walker was all over the place, Dawson was his normal hapless self, Vertonghen making uncharacteristic mistakes, Kaboul constantly injured and Rose either injured or looking out of his depth. Personally, I think Chiriches did amazing to come into that back four and look as accomplished as he did. He was certainly our best defender in my book and dug Dawson out of bad positional play every time they played together. Then we have Paulinho, Eriksen and Capoue who had a frustrating Dembele and a constantly injured Sandro to settle with. Amazing how Paulinho takes all the flak yet the 2 incumbents seems to get away with it. Chadli gave everything in a team where you only have one passing option and Lamela got blamed for his price tag even though he was injured himself. Within that he still gave the best individual performance from any Spurs player last season. Then we have Soldado who kept making the runs early on but his team-mates couldn't find him and in the end lost his confidence. Had Adebayor not been at odds with the manager and Defoe had found his form, perhaps his introduction to the side would have been easier. Still though, I keep reading how the 7 new players were duds. That's not the root cause and I seriously hope the current squad do a way better job of helping their new team mates for the coming season.
muttley
How long does it take to 'prepare' or 'ready'a bid. That is all Spurs appear to do in a transfer window. Whilst the other top six clubs are doing significant deals we are offering insulting bids or preparing bids for players we have no hope or even intention of signing. Our lack of ambition since we qualified for the Champions League is staggering. If Daniel Levy is such a great bean counter how come that in spite of making a profit on nearly every transfer window, the THFC accounts never show a profit. We don't pay great wages so where is all the money going Daniel. Surely some creative accounting isn't taking place!!
DoncasterHotspur
http://talksport.com/football/david-luiz-interview-after-7-1-defeat-paulinho-used-spurs-140709100793?
MAN ON!
its a spoof man on
tarkan mardinCOYS
MAN ON!...LOL! ref: Draxler article. Read it the exact same way, and thought the exact same thing. I like the articles that also say "Spurs are Interested"...Really?, a football club interested in a great player whether X,Y or Z. Of course bloody football clubs are interested in players, I bet Spurs are interested in Messi...Who wouldn't be. Are we going to sign him?. LOL!.
cider spurs
and why should Draxler suddenly be worth bidding at 17 when this time last year arsenal were going in at 30.
tarkan mardinCOYS
old daniel need to stop playing silly buggers.
tarkan mardinCOYS
One for me...One for you...one for me...one for you.
cider spurs
tarkan mardinCOYS. I know.
MAN ON!
Luiz is the biggest spoof of all!
MAN ON!
David Luiz was a big vacant hole...right where a CB should be...technically a very good player....positionally poor. It's a team game, it's Ok for a CB to step out with the ball on occasion and at appropriate times when cover is on...but to go and try to win the game by yourself is madness. Vlad take note!...
shedboy2
And the clock still ticks.....a new player could have joined up with his team mates, sorted accommodation, started learning MoPo's tactics etc...but no, tick, tock that's preparation slipping away...failing to prepare, prepare to fail and all that....
shedboy2
Anyone to replace the useless Arron Lennon would be nice.

The strikers haven`t been great for Spurs since Berbatov,but the supply has been even worse IMO.

Having a top chef with lazy waitresses who don`t bring it out until it`s sat there for half an hour is a waste of a good chef.Good service is where Spurs need to look,our left wingers & right wingers have not been assisting enough IMO & most of our goals have come through the middle.

Siggy,lennon,Townsend & Chadlii all have a dreadful scoring & assisting record whilst at Spurs.
Fanny adams
FA- we have Lamela...that's why he was bought...left side though...leaves the 3 other players on your list...two of which have at least had good scoring and assisting records before Spurs...
shedboy2
T.H.F.Chris, I do not think they will be alone in the scoring. I think we will be playing one striker with Eriksen up there somewhere. I also think with a more free flowing style and players in their proper positions that we will see more goals from our MF'ers and more goals from set pieces. Look at the totals from two seasons ago from Eriksen, Chadli, Soldado, Paulinho, Capoue. There are goals in our squad. We justneed a manager to create the situation necessary to allow all of the players to play to their potential. Had Chadli, Sigurdsson and Townsend tried crossing the ball to effect over the first 10 games perhaps Soldado would have been scoring goals rather than coming ack out of the box looking to get the ball. Same goes for Rose and Walker, had their crosses (which were numerous) been anywhere near the intended target, perhaps things would have been different. I still can't see Adebayor sticking around for the paltry salary he'll be on this year and next, but, if he plays to potential, perhaps we can get two class years out of him and justify paying him an improved salary to stick around longer. History suggests no, but let's just give the players all a clean slate. In a few months, it will be clear who figures in the plans and who does not. Coach has a five year contract. I doubt any of the players have that much security so, eventually, if ENIC stay out of it, this team will reflect what Pochettino and Baldini want. Now, Pochettino still has lots to learn, so hopefully he can do that while shaping the team. We'll see. Let's get in to the group stages of Europa first so that there are enough games for players and so that the coach can start to learn how to deal with all of the differing interests on a game by game basis. I just hope that can be done while keeping us in Europe. COYS
peterballb
Well said Muttley. Base problem was the disintegrating relationship between AVB and Levy, Levy's decision to allow him to leave and his further (in hind sight for one who supported, me) putting Sherwood in charge. All this frustration and disruption is what led to the malaise of the team...And we still managed 6th place!!
jvd
Not been on here much today...Far to busy p/ssing my pants at the thought we were to sign Draxler at £17 million.

The same Draxler who said he would remain at Schalke for another season not too long ago, the lad who is playing for his boyhood club, who played his way right through their ranks, who has turned many clubs bigger than Spurs down, who has Champions league football next season. Might just want to stop preparing that bid and have a re-think. We struggle enough to get a Welsh LB at £8-10 million over the line. Oh my days!.
cider spurs
It's not Daniels fault we are linked to players left, right and centre. Blame the media circus. They love linking Spurs to the best talent around. I'm still waiting on Swansea to complain about the idiotic offer of us involved in a swap deal with Siggy for Vorm and Davies. Any news from them? No I thought not. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
James...My post is actually a tongue in cheek p/ss take out of the media.

The Vorm stuff relates to last year by all accounts, media adding it to their agenda and making us look buffoons as usual, hence ny quip we can't even get a Welsh LB over the line, As for Draxler , again, media bullstit, as myself and MAN ON! were on this very topic earlier on up the article, nothing more than a continuation.
cider spurs
Well spotted james.... i think Levy could do worse than to bring out a board game "Blame it on Levy." It seems the same people who have no faith in Levy in transfers are same ones who express shock, horror when the player isn't signed .... or is it just me... Still reckon we are only after a LB, CB and a forward (LW or CF) if that... ready for the Pochettino's blue and white army to turn up to entertain....
Highgatespur
shedboy2, exactly. There is no way for anyone to expect Pochettino to ork his magic in a few weeks or even a few months, which is why I say there should be, at most nominal change. Lloris, Dembele, Holtby, Capoue, Chiriches, Townsend, Rose, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Soldado, Chadli, Paulinho, Fryers, Kane, Bentaleb, Lamela, Sigurdsson have all come in to the regular squad oer the past 4 windows. We have brought in a coach whose reputation has been built on developing players while playing an exciting brand of football. How about we let him do what he does and see where he gets with this grup of players before we, the fans, decide who should be coming and going. Perhaps Rose or Fryers does have it in him to be a solid LB. Perhaps Paulinho, Dembele, Sandro, Holtby, Capoue can manage the MF. Perhaps Lennon can be taugt and encouraged when to shoot and when to coss. Prhaps Rose and Walker can get their crosses in to the box. Perhas Lamela and Eriksen can both live up to their prodigious talents. Perhaps Adebayor will give a damn and wil be the best striker in the PL. Perhaps Soldado will get the service he needs to be the fo in the box striker he was bought to be. ETC ETC. Selling players before he has thoroughly evaluated what he has would be ridiculous and there is no guarantee that any of the players being contemplated will be upgrades nor is it likely they will arrive much before September. Limiting sales to players who do ot have a long-term future at Spurs (Dawson, BAE, Sigurdsson) seems prudent. He can then start building as of January once he decideswhere his foundation is. Too many on here contemplating throwing out the baby with the bathwater for a new manager who has never qualified for CL, or Europe or won a cup, or managed in Europe or managed a team in 4 competitions or managed a team against whom all other teams park the bus so they don't get destroyed like Wigan. So much change and so many unknowns and people want to ramp that up too while no doubt suggesting anything less than a second place finish in the table is unacceptable. Can't even say cart ahead of the horse because nothing has yet been hooked up. Just a bunch of carts and hosres in the field. There's lots of work to do COYS
peterballb
Hello Cider it wasn't to do with your post fella. Just responding to the general feeling with the linked players and with some of the posts generated on here :) COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
I hear Swansea are after deeney from Watford ? Sign of life in the travel direction of Bony towards M4 eastbound ?
Highgatespur
Honestly, how many more windows will it take for people to get that players of the calibre we are pursuing will not sign on the dotted line with us until the better paying and better positioned (ie CL) teams have decided that they do not want them. If reports are to be believed, Remy's release clause was met over a month ago. e is waiting to see if a better offer comes along. Davies is no doubt the same. We don't have CL and we don't pay what 5 other PL clubs will so we must, like every other time, wait for them to decide we are the best remaining option. People act like Spurs is the number one destination for every player and that they should all forego money and CL and just sign for us. What a wondeful, sunny world some people live in. Makes me realize why I see things differently when I watch players play than others do. The business model has not changed. The signing model is unlikely to either. So long as Dawson remains, there will not likely be a CB signed. We have too many senior players as it is and have players like Pritchard, Bentaleb and Fredericks all wanting a look in. COYS
peterballb
There is a discount sale today on Brazilian players worldwide. Internationals 75% off of usual transfer fees and salaries.
Falstaff the Fool
Peterballb nice post, living in hope - so much hope!!!
Highgatespur
Had to LOL when I came across this on another site:

"Been waiting all these years for Spurs to start playing like Brazil. And now finally, they are."

The thing is we were actually setting the trend that Brazil were trying to replicate!!!!!
Highgatespur
http://talksport.com/football/david-luiz-interview-after-7-1-defeat-paulinho-used-spurs-140709100793? MAN ON!


The translation of David Luiz's words is a farce. He did not say any of the things that the subscript says he said.

Falstaff the Fool
Highgate - or maybe (as reported) Swansea are happy to sell Michu.....
Windlespur
I thought they sold Michu and bought in Gomis.....
Highgatespur
James...Thought as much mate. I suppose i am guilty of suggesting this player or that, but in my defence, I do understand why we cannot sign some players as a result of our business model. Add to this the media is full of crap, the worst story so far being the Metro's Draxler article. They name two German papers as the source of the story, one ceased to operate in 2006 and the other has nothing in it relating to Draxler, at any time concerning Spurs.

Could it be we are actually going about our business behind the scenes in a stealth like manner.
cider spurs
Do I really come across as being such an idiot that two people feel the need to point out to me that the Luiz vid is a farce, a spoof... I posted it to share the joke... Think I'll go back to bed.
MAN ON!
Hey, look on the bright side we didn't pay 42 mil for Luiz, all that transfer kitty just sitting there waiting for the best players Levy can steal!!.
Thats Entertainment
TE, reckon Friday is D-day for some players as MRP decides who to wield the axe on ?
Highgatespur
HGS, who would you like to see moving on.
Thats Entertainment
Falstaff... I'm a broken man, can you fix me please? Highgate, have you sobered up yet? How's the hangover?
MAN ON!
Holland 96 Argentina 2!
MAN ON!
Yes let's do nothing, and just allow Pochittino to "assess" what he has got for the remainder of the close season and wait till January, or even next summer, and then when we are in 10th or 11th place or worse in the PL, with no European football at all to offer, see who we are able to sign then. If Pochittino is a football person who watches games, highlights, lowlights, on a variety of Sky Sports, BT Sports, ESPN, or ITV 4 he will have a rough idea of the mottley crew he is inheriting, and where the glaringly obvious shortcomings in terms of lack of quality are. He can scrutinize last seasons league tables, results, GD figures etc. it doesn't take a genius coach to realize there are problems at either end of the pitch, and in MF for that matter. We don't score enough goals, we concede too many goals, and we get beat too often, not only by teams who ought to beat us, but by dross like Spammers as well. That's why we finished just above his former village team last season. If we waste a season effectively "assessing the obvious" we will by then be miles behind. Let's see him, Baldini or even heaven forbid Levy, do something positive in this window, just for a change, to IMPROVE what we have. It may even mean, dare I say, taking a gamble or two, how terrible that would be. Mind you we should have last season's, and this season's, Sky income to spend as we only re-cycled money from transfer income last summer, and made our usual profit. We could of course just watch as the better clubs all make their signings, and disappear over the horizon, never to be seen again.
Frank
Will Argentina kick the life out of the Dutch? Will LVG substitute the substitute keeper with a centre forward? Will Robben bring an end to the football world as we know it? Am I a sexist, racist pig? Is Highgate really a Spurs fan? Is Topho really Highgate?
MAN ON!
Highgate - Mi******** gone yet, but in talks with Napoli. Some say over a season long loan - we should take that one up - he is a worker & a goalscorer - great player for the team (if fit).
Windlespur
Windle...And another MFer. LOL!.
cider spurs
well said Frank. PERHAPS a left back is needed, perhaps after god knows how many years Lennon cant be taught how or when to cross a ball and perhaps Levy will learn how to operate with sense and dignity in a transfer window. He certainly looked a dick regarding the Bale ,ozil show
topspur53
Strikers . We may have 3 but Ade will be missing for the Afcon. Kane still developing. Soldado still not sure what to expect. So a decent forward would help.
ro6ertj
Bony would do just fine
topspur53
Frank. Maybe Poch should have been preparing for next season before he'd even left Southampton. Nothing like forward planning to get ahead of the rest...... I always thought that Monty Python was a documentary. How about you Falstaff?
MAN ON!
Frank, the squad in place underachieved grossly last season. Injuries were a part of it. Erratic play. No system at the end of the season. Lots of things to point to. This is not the time for upheaval, rather it is a time to get all those in the squad playing to potential. Which names out there are the ones who are going to better the club? Pray tell. Can we get them? Most of the names I have seen are all based on potential. There's no guarantee that Origi will succeed any more than there is that Townsend can be properly coached to live p to his potential. If Soldado, Eriksen, Lamela and Adebayor all live up to potential, we will not lack for goals. Capoue and Paulinho too have shown in the past that they have goals in them We need at least one CB, IMO, but if Kaboul is healthy and Vertongen motivated and if Walker plays to potential and Rose is solid, how bad off are we? We can all agree that all of the 7 players who came in failed to consistently deliver to their potential, yet, they still managed 22 goals and 18 assists which outstripped Gareth Bale's 21 goals and 5 assists. We almost achieved the same points total in what was a shambolic season. Again, I would not do anything unless a player absolutely wants out and our valuation is met, or there is a deal out there that would be foolish to ignore. I have not really been inspired by any of the players we are linked with. Do we really believe that CFC will sell us Lukaku if they can get similar money from someone else? United paid 27M (potentially rising to 34M) for Shaw. Is he worth that? Even Baines who is great going forward is not worth anyting like that as he is a defensive liability. Let's let this coach who develops players develop our players, the majority of whom have not even entered their prime playing days. Eriksen was great for about 4 months. I can see him scoring 10-15 goals and registering 15-20 assists. All of our players have the potential to be better than they were last season. Som will not suit Pochettino. Some may well fit better with Pochettino than with any other manager they have had. That will all take time to evaluate. I see no reason why we cannot do this slow and deliberate while still maintaining a place in Europe. We did not hire a coach ho has a pedigre of winning. We hired one with a pedigree of developing within a style of play. Let's let him have at it. COYS
peterballb
None of that suggests Pochettino will be doing nothing. Development takes time. Our squad are not predominantly 30 year olds where the statement "you know what you get" would apply. Dason, BAE fit in to that category and can be sold withut affecting development. In fact, holding onto them probably does. I like Sigurdsson, but he is crowded out by better players and thus, is surplus. So, there are three more transfers to add to a kitty that should include the surplus from last season, the unused TV revenues from last season, the sell on for Gio, the CL bonus for Modric and possibly Bale. If Falque does not make the squad, will we not sell him on? Same with players like Obika who really don't have a place in the future. I suspect there will be players leaving and we will bring in a few young players at the deadline (Lascelles, Davies, Yedlin - to stay in US until the MLS season is over, and perhaps a young keeper). Other than that, I expect it to be all hands on deck" until January unless an offer comes aroun that we cannot refuse (25M for Sandro, 30M for Lloris etc). Build on last season. Discard what does not suit Pochettino over the January and next summer windows. COYS
peterballb
Its time to sell Lennon and Sigurddson and try and get Griezmann from Sociadad.
spurs-stelios
spurs-stelios- sorry don't agree re Lennon. Until we know how Lamela and Townsend work out we need players with experience in the PL and Lennon has that. If we sold him and brought in an unknown on the wing it is risky, and can be take the risk that Townsend will up his game or Lamela will come good from the start. I say keep Lennon for now, see if Poch can improve his crossing and decision making and let Townsend and Lamela fight it out for the wings with Lennon and see how they all do. Every time we have tried to bring someone in on the wing to take Lennons place they have not stepped up. Bentley, dos santos and last season Townsend. When we played with out Lennon we were not as good imo even though he doesn't always perform. he brings a threat and that gives defenders something to think about even if he doesn't make that threat. The defenders know if they let up he will punish them.

Is Walker training?
BigSpursFan
Time to put in a £2m bid for Damaio or £6.50 for Fred.
vicspur
BSF, have serious doubts about Townsend, can MP fix him? if so, then a miracle worker!
Thats Entertainment
peterballb-agree absolutely. Poch will sort it out but needs time to evaluate who is right for the club and his methods. I keep saying it I don't think there is any rush or need to bring in players. I said earlier two at best, CB and I am a little concerned about strikers with Ade being Ade and Soldado, risky if he doesn't come good. However, if other players do play to their potential then I see goals from Eriksen, Lamela, Kane, even Townsend and cannot see why there wouldn't be odd ones from midfielders such as Paulinho, Holtby. However, I do think we need a 20+ consistent striker. Will Ade embrace Poch ideas and be the one to deliver those goals. Will Soldado be a different player and do it or will Kane be the one to show them both how it is done. My concern is all of those strikers are risky for different reasons, so the strikers concern me. when you look at last season Liverpool, City all had strikers that scored. Chelsea didn't and they suffered, Utd didn't they suffered. Every team needs a striker that will consistently deliver, can we take the risk on ours? I would prefer one of them to be sold if we can bring in a proven PL striker but then of course who is there that is available. CFC probably not going to sell lakaku and is Bony good enough. It's a tough call regarding strikers but a CB yes I think we need one.
BigSpursFan
Vicspur-lol Fred was woeful and I never rated Hulk, was concerned when we were interested in him when AVB was here. Over rated and how on earth Fred got those games I don't know.

I also thought Brazil played Oscar wrong, he should have been left sided or through the middle, not effective enough on the right out wide. Didn't rate Bernard either, there was a lot of hype about him a while ago. Damaio - he missed his chance to prove himself. Hear nothing of him these days.

Thats entertainment - I am no fan of Townsend but I am curious to see what Poch can do with some of our players. Although I am trying not to get too excited, can he really work miracles.
BigSpursFan
I don't think anyone is debating our need for a LB or if a good striker like Bony wanted to play with us or a significantly better CB would be willing to do the same. I am debating the need to bring in a multitude of players when the players we purchased last year have not had a stable environment within to work. Do you folks really believe that these players suddenly stopped being good? Do you realise that PL football is now 60-70% European football? The old "steel" of the PL is not really there anymore except at teams like Stoke and Sunderland and a handful of low tier teams so much of the validity as to the difference between Spanish or German or Italian football is questionable? IMHO the players we purchased need to be given last year as a "do over". And yes I believe Poch will be a huge difference maker.
jvd
BigSpursFan, Iagree about Lennon. Nothing would make me happier than to have Lamela take the spot and have Fredericks need time so we are forced to part ways with Lennon. But it has to be earned. Also, if Pochettino can get Lennon to shoot when he should and cross as he was the year we qualified for CL, the club will be the beneficiary. If Lennon had been playing RW at the start of last season, I believe Soldado would have had some opportunities to get himself going. I also believe that Townsend has an ability to be a quality winger, but, IMO, it must be on the left side where he tends to limit his cut-ins and crosses to far better effect. If players like he, Lennon and Lamela can get balls in to the box and draw fouls, it will allow the strikers and Eriksen to capitalize. Thes are the players that make the difference when the other side is determined to parkthe bus. We just need to develop the talents of the players we have and use them to proper effect. Players knowing their roles and playing in position is a great start. COYS
peterballb
Griezmann would be a great shout stelios. Said as much on the forum yesterday, today it was written that he has refused to sign a new contract with Sociedad. Liverpool it is then!.
cider spurs
TE, I would really like Rose , Lennon and Kaboul gone - if it weren't for the threat of the Loodon flooding through Man On's tears - I think it best if EA moved on but ...
Highgatespur
I'm sure the issue with Griezmann is tht no one is prepared to pay his release clause with only one year left on his contract. In January, I expect he will go to the highest bidder and it is unlikely to be for 30M Euros. 15M GBP plus Falque? But then, by Jauary, perhaps Pochettino will have developed Townsend or Chadli or Pritchard and perhaps we won't be concerned about a goal soring LW. Liverpool can still only play XI last I checked and it looks like Suarez will be gone for less than his buyout. That's a huge loss. 37 goals, 19 assists in 37 appearances is a huge hole to fill. 882 goals in 133 Liverpool appearances. Anyone else think he bit his way out of Liverpool on purpose? Barca seem to be making out like bandits in this whole thing. I suspect he, Neymar and Messi may well score a goal or two when they are all playing together. Maybe the tapas, jamon and sangria might fill his need for biting. COYS
peterballb
Man On! are you back on the digging again - or are you still on the wacky backy or something stronger ? Helping you to be the 'joker' no doubt ? "Only joking" man - what a joker!!!
Highgatespur
peterballb 882 goals in 133 games.feck me he was better than i thought.
tarkan mardinCOYS
82 in 133. Damned keyboard. Still pretty good, but by comparison, pretty poor. We need to sgn a striker who scores 7 goals a game. COYS
peterballb
Jvd, there is a difference between PL and La Liga or Serie A, it is in the attitude of referees, who seem to blow at any hint of contact in the challenges, although on the evidence of this World Cup, more referees are coming to realise that all the histrionics, diving and drama queen performances, should not automatically be rewarded with a free kick or a penalty as it seems to do in the aforementioned leagues, more so than in either the bundeslega or our own PL, where thankfully some contact and tackling are still allowed, although unfortunately there has been a huge sanitization of the game compared to the 60s, 70s and 80s when football was truly a man's game, without posers, prancers and pretty boys involved. Some of the foreign players still struggle with the physicality of our game compared to France, Spain and Italy. Can you imagine Soldado in a full bloodied man to man challenge, with a 6 foot 13 stone CB, I think not.
Frank
Oh Man On! I see that you are fully on that old routine .... thought that wouldn't last too long - needed your fix didn't you ? Certainly thought your buddy being back on the scene would've helped - after all you did claim his identity once.... ooh all that admiration .... clear that stage for Man On! and his jokes - forget Jack Dee and the likes - Heeeeerrreee's Man On! and his weedy crew.... What a joker - the laughter grows to a crescendo!!!!
Highgatespur
I think Holland will win tonight...... 3-1
MAN ON!
Man ons more funnier than jack dee.
tarkan mardinCOYS
peterballb - think we might found out who is required air not from next week.... didn't realise re the stats of GB and the rest one man vs 7!!! Really would have liked the one man to stay and be part of the 8th with the 7!!! Good post!
Highgatespur
peterballb- what's the price for Saurez then ?
Highgatespur
0-0
tarkan mardinCOYS
Tarkan. After full time or extra time?
MAN ON!
Frank, I don't think it is so much the physicality of the English game as it is about the frenetic pace. In the PL, the time and space on the ball is so limited that you are exposed the second you need to think about what you are going to do. Modric was an awesome player before we bought him. It took him 2 plus years to get used to the limited time he had on the ball. Most leagues don't have anyone chase the ball on back-passes to the keeper. Keep your shape and eventually the keeper will play the ball out. In the PL back-passes are routinely tracked back to pressure the keeper and increase the odds of getting the ball. On the continent it is more about dictating where you want the keeper to play the ball. The PL is just a different game. It's like comparing the NHL to any European hockey league. The pace of the game is what separates those who will succeed and those who ultimately return to their previous league. COYS
peterballb
Well there we are tonight's game is the 'proper game' according to Andy Townsend - what a pillock !!!
Highgatespur
Highgate, and that is with the 7 underachieving (even Eriksen was only good for half a season). As I understand it, Bale was offered180k/week to stay but had decided he was going. He is on significantly more money and he has, as I understand it, his own naming rights beyond that. These are monies we cannot compete with. Suarez will go to Barca and will get a pay bump and a lot more from endorsements (dentures, horse shoes, gum, tooth paste). He was already getting over a quarter of a million GBP/week. These are numbers other clubs cannot compete with. From what I have read, foreign club buyout price was 70M GBP. Liverpool will be getting between 54 and 58M GBP having lowered the amount to accommodate for him not being able to train or play with the team until November, although I would not be surprised to see Barca get that reduced once he is their player. Neymar deal was apparently outside of the rules as was the Bale deal yet Barca and RM continue on without reprisal. Still believe most of our 7 will wind up worth far more than what we paid for them. COYS
peterballb
I suppose Vlaar would stand with a shout for having the best WC from those based in the EPL ...
Highgatespur
Thanks for the insight peterballb. I really do wonder what acts as the main motivator for these players earning gzullions .... I am certainly hoping that our class of 2013 will come to the fore... hopefully the change in the coach helps as desired - lets face the impact can't be any worse...
Highgatespur
what a bore fest
tarkan mardinCOYS
Cider is it stealth or no activity at all? I hope you're right that we are going about things quitely. Maybe things will kick on after the WC. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
HGS, I would like to see Walker, Dawson, Rose gone all mistakes waiting to happen IMO.
Thats Entertainment
james that's what I am hoping for and the end of the assessment period this week and then off to America ? Jamaat (sp) is on - aren't we meant to be interested in him ?
Highgatespur
TS, Walker ? No Andros nor Azza ? 1goal or 1 assist in a season - would that be tolerated anywhere else, I wonder?
Highgatespur
Hi Folks: profound apologies for not being available today to discuss your comments on my article; I'll endeavour to address the issues raised. HH: Its my understanding that DL/Board have given Poch a transfer budget of £50m for this window; apart from that, there are glaring positional deficiencies in the team that Levy, Baldini & Broomfield would have pointed out to Poch that need to be addressed and I assume that he accepts that, and if he didn't, he would have been provided with extensive CDs of the said weaknesses; based on the information/rumours/agents & ITK comments in the public domain its clear they are attempting to address those gaps and targeting players in the positions set out in my article; we have a new HC who will want his own type of players in those positions so change is unavoidable, however undesirable; to minimise the degree of instability we experienced last season, the club have stated they are focusing on recruiting players who already know their way around the PL(eg Davies, Remy, Lovren etc ). the recruitment team this situation is inevitable;
RathgarSpur
Sorry TE not TS!!! What a horrible mistake!!!
Highgatespur
Dawson needs to go just because we need to be playing other players and I don't think he will be well served as a 4th or 5th CB. Time is right. I hope he and BAE will go. As for Rose and Walker, I would not consider selling either until Pochettino has had a chance to ork with them and determine whether they can be "developed". If not, in Januarry we start looking. What worries me most is that the talk is starting again about Lloris and Vertonghen. Both would be very hard to replace and we'd have to buy based on potential, which, as we saw last season, can really rset you back. Also, if Vertonghen were to go, Dawson and Kaboul become the number one pairing in front of Friedel. Thee is nothing in Pochettino's CV which suggests heis a miracle worker. COYS
peterballb
One could say that you draw a scene from the Armageddon there ... oh my!!!
Highgatespur
No, HGS, that's just the defenders, Townsend defo, with Siggy.
Thats Entertainment
Upfront, Soldado, and bring Lukaku in, simples.
Thats Entertainment
Highgate: Thanks for the back-handed compliment; for my next article I'll pick a subject that's covered by the single word 'zilch' and submit it; on the assumption that Ox publishes it, you can compliment me for my article & subject's economy and chastise my general lack of imagination and my insulting of all the Vital Spurs posters with a one word article.
RathgarSpur
TE, I have a feeling that EA could be going.... no chance with Lukaku I think
Highgatespur
HGS, who'd pay Ade's wages?
Thats Entertainment
RathgarSpur - I fear that you take my comment rather personally - it was meant to be a reflection on the actual activities of the club rather than the wishful thinking on our part. Sorry you took it so personally - as I said it wasn't meant that way.
Highgatespur
TE, that's my point... I don't think the club would pay and EA won't accept the cut ... Monaco ?
Highgatespur
Brilliant tackle macherano ...
Highgatespur
I think Ade will suit MP tactics, very versatile.
Thats Entertainment
I don't know TE .... when's the last time he had a complete season without any drama ? At nearly £200k per week what are the expectations / standards ?
Highgatespur
Geofspurs; You raise an interesting point that it is Poch that will choose the players he wants for his system; however, our current squad will generally suit his system because his system is broadly the same high tempo pressing attacking system that AVB used in his first season at Spurs. Projecting ahead, there are potential issues around the way he plays that are unlikely to bode well for our defence & MF, but I'll deal with that in a later post.
RathgarSpur
Nearly Krul time!
Critical_Spur
Here we go ....
Highgatespur
Less Krul today - how's the goalie feeling ?
Highgatespur
Great save - Argies through ?
Highgatespur
YES!!!! Come on win on Sunday Argies !!!!!!
Highgatespur
Man U can start there pre-season on time now!
Critical_Spur
Well now Argentina are in the finale that means that we will have to wait a little longer before we sign messi.
Stuckincornwall
not a good game, but hey attackers lost this one, so a well done for the defenses for both teams.
123spurs
Why didn't LvG use the same goalie tactics tonight ?
Highgatespur
Critical - not until Sunday - 3rd/4th place match !
Highgatespur
good point HGS why not is a good Q
123spurs
Man On: As I said in my HH response above, the glaring positional deficiencies and the perceived underperforming players in the team would have been already pointed out to Poch by the 'boys'(ie Levy, Baldini & Broomfield) and he could verify that with CD evidence, which I think would provide a lot of player assessment evidence to Poch during the close-season: so I assume, for the most part, that Poch already knows the core players he wants to retain before the pre-season, and identifies/agrees his target preferences from both Baldini & Broomfield's target lists and probably some from Southamption's DOF target list that he'd be familiar with, and this has to be the case given the time constraints involved; so during pre-season he's primarily assessing the contentious players(possibly Sandro , Paul, Dembele, Holtby, Townsend etc) and the other non-core players and the 'boys' focus on progressing/signing agreed prime targets and selling agreed outgoing players. I assume it works along these lines.
RathgarSpur
RathgarSpur.. That sounds like a fair assessment... I'm not so worried myself about making a lot of changes until perhaps the Jan window but if improvements are made early, I'll be happy enough. I'll trust MP's judgement for now and hope he choses well.
MAN ON!
chooses...
MAN ON!
Highgatespur...because he managed the game badly and made a change he shouldn't have. Huntelaar came on in extra time for RvP, didn't make a difference. Wrong call.
jvd
General: I've picked up on a discussion among posters concerning the importance of the need for an organised/solid defence and a working MF as a platform for proper defending & conceding less goals etc; just slightly off-topic, while I'm concerned at the psychological damage as well as the loss of confidence affecting our defence and our MF, both individually and as a unit last season in the wake of AVB's failures to address the beatings we took from Man Citi & L'pool before his departure and TS, who compounded it by just not knowing anything about defending, I don't think its going to change that much next season; Poch plays a high-temp pressing attacking game like AVB did in his first season, and based on the 2 matches vs Spurs last season, he seems to know very little about organising a team defensively, and it appears he spends little or no time focusing on the opposition hence Southampon's very erratic defending and the high number of goals they conceded. So the outlook doesn't look too good for our defense next season.
RathgarSpur
RathgarSpur, this is one of the elements that I have been bringing to the fore. Southampton were not expected to win anything and were neither a threat to the top 7 nor were they perceived as a huge opposition to those teams that finished below them AS a result, no one really played to stop them. They succeeded because they could go out and play as they desired. That will not be the case with Spurs who have the lower teams parking the bus and the top teams doing everything they can to stop us doing what we want. It's all about the threat level. Southampton weren't really a threat. Spurs are. If he cannot break down a parked bus, we will not succeed. If we play too open, we will again be ripped a new one. This will be a learning experience for Pochettino. Those who think he can just slot in with the CL contenders without ever having lived it, are, IMO, grossly optimistic and, likely, deluded. He has never managed a team like this before. Not because I say so, but because he never has. This is all new for him. He, like all the foreign players, need to learn. My largest point of interest for this season will be seeing how all of Pochettino, Rodgers and Martinez deal with the rigours of Europe along with the League and the domestic cups. It's a lot more football. Everton still can't afford a large squad. They will suffer as injuries and fixtures pile up. Liverpool will be going forward without their best player and a whole bunch of new players. It will not be easy for any of thew three. All will learn lessons this year and all may fall back. Good news is the rest of the pack still remains way back in terms of quality. COYS
peterballb
all this talk of Poch taking time to assess what he's got before buying or selling etc....pure bunkum! He's sold Livermore, how long did he assess him for?....oh yeah, he didn't and doesn't need to...he's the bloody coach, he works with what he gets...Baldidni is the one who buys, he's been here a year...so stop hiding behind excuses and funneling the cash away from the pitch and get on and improve our first team!
shedboy2
hadn't read all yesterdays posts...as RathgarSpur points out the team...baldini etc will have shared info on players with Poch who if half the man we need him to be will have already studied our players strengths and weakness from an oppo point of view....he'll know a lot about our players, he'll just not know the man behind the player. In some instances that can be a positive...you don't see him as a sulk or a prima donna, trouble maker etc...or the really nice bloke, great trainer but poor in front of 30k fans (a choker) and so needing to be moved on...no point in having a DoF if we are not to maintain continuity with transfers and developing the squad every time Levy sacks/ parts company/ has a petulant hissy fit with -his manager...
shedboy2
shedboy2, I have never heard that term before, "failing to prepare, prepare to fail".... The perfect motto for ENIC's activities with THFC! The saying "To dare is to do" truly died at this club the moment Sugar bought THFC, just a few weeks after the club won it's last big time trophy in 1991... Nearly a quarter of a century of failure, in terms of THFC the football club. But Sugar and his apprentice have made many millions out of the club we love, and Big Joe is preparing to make himself half billion or so for failing us... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
Lloris has just signed a new 5-year contract with us. Should that make me worried? Precursor to bumping his price up before a sale? I really hope not.
SpuriousLife
SpuriousLife how cynical ;) lol. but I agree, it's in the best interest for Spurs. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
SpuriousLife, Sadly a long term contract means little of nothing at THFC! And yes it certainly makes Lloris sell on value much greater. Sometimes football clubs sign a player to a long term as part of the deal to sell the player. They make an agreement with the players agent, something along these lines... "Sign the long contract so we can make more money from your sell, and then we will let you go to the club of your choice, provided they meet our value of you." Many a deal has been done like this at football clubs, especially at 'buy to sell clubs' like Tottenham Hotspur under ENIC...
Pele10
Way Hay! Hugo no go go!
LongTimeSpursFan64
Well we did say we wanted signings. Looks like we've just made our first World class player signing of the season. ;-)
cider spurs
Well let's hear what Lloris has to say then Pele10. The club is under no pressure to sell and if Lloris comes out with a positive statement then I think both club and player will find it hard to sell/leave. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
I remember everyone getting very excited when Bale signed his long term deal at Spurs. And what happened? He was sold within 12 months! Levy certainly knows s how to fool many of you. He does it over and over again, and yet you still fool for it, whilst the THFC trophy cabinet remains empty, we are without CL football and the new stadium remains just a plot of land for a least another 5 seasons, by which time West Ham United will have taken our place as one of the top 3 clubs in London... This I promise you with happen if ENIC stay on board... Lloris in my opinion will be sold by the summer of 2015...
Pele10
I only come here once in a while to read the comments. You should all pat yourselves on the back - you have a very healthy repartee happening here, congrats! One thing I have noticed - you all tend to dismiss Pele10. Yes, his ENIC is evil, Levy is Satan schtick wears a bit thin. But a lot of what he says, beneath the demonizing of ENIC and Levy, makes sense. I don't think Levy is an evil man - horrible judge of players but not evil. ENIC is in it for the money - like every other other non-oil-rich owner, don't kid yourself. Spurs will never sit at the top table of European football until they have a new stadium, and while it's handy that Spurs fans can do their grocery shopping on the way home at the biggest Sainsbury's in the capital, it doesn't add the million pounds in match day revenue that a big, modern stadium does, so Spurs may be able to buy overpriced mediocrity like Soldado, but can't afford the wages of world class players. Unless they grew up as Spurs fans, why would any world class player choose to go to a team with an old stadium smaller than that of second-tier teams in the big European leagues, on lower wages, and no Champions League? Build the stadium, increase revenue, and it all falls into place. Liverpool looks most likely to drop out of the top four, and Man U looks most likely to take their place. But if Levy doesn't get involved and lets Pochettino figure out the squad, Spurs could get into the top four. This is where I agree with Pele10 - Levy is a fu¢king disaster. He's great on sales, but horrible on purchases - and it's the purchases that play for the team. Levy IS the problem. Not ENIC.
elbondo
 

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