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Seattle vs Spurs...The Report!

Well it happened, soccer returned for Spurs. Nothing too long report wise on this one, far too early to make a fair and reasoned assessment, nonetheless, a few points to discuss.

Defence at times looked shaky, once more our mistakes handing the oppo the upper hand in and around our own box. Easy to see how we finished 1st in the top 5 leagues in Europe for defensive mistakes leading to goals. Work still to be done, but early days under a new coach.

I thought Rose looked a lot more assured, could it be because he was concentrating more on his defensive duties? If so, this part he did fine, maybe next we could see a happy unison of defence and attack from Danny, heck, even a few decent crosses.

I mentioned the other day that I thought Ceballos and Falque could well break into the first team this season and feature at times, last night sees myself retain that belief. I thought both were exciting to watch, played without fear, and were more than happy to take an opponent on, exciting times ahead for these two I feel.

In fact I thought all our youngsters did well, some surprised me with their pace (Fredericks if I recall correctly), some with their trickery. What about Fryers run down the Left, I've never seen him at pace like that, he was quick. Holtby was his usual workmanlike self and did no harm putting his case forward for a starting berth in the prem, kept it flowing and looked to pass quickly. Talking of passing, how much did that pitch affect our passing game?.

Looked like our intensity had upped compared to what we witnessed at times last season, numerous times players hunting down the oppo in numbers, as a unit. We still looked short of numbers in the box at times when in attack, and I'm still trying to work out what Lennon's position was 1st half.

Anyway, as stated far too early to be negative, I'm guessing we can all name one or two who could have had a better game, I will refrain for the time being. Happy to see the youth waiting in the wings, reminding myself that the Sounders currently sit top of the pile in the MLS and we gave a good account of ourselves, and more than ever, happy that the lads are back playing, leaves me knowing only one thing. Prem football cannot be that far away on the horizon...Or is that Soccer?. 

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Writer:Cider Spurs
Date:Sunday July 20 2014
Time: 10:59AM

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Thanks for update cider. Again, sadly,as love his heart, Dawson was shown as a weak link and can not continue to be selected. early days, first pre season, half a side, but that was my only real conclusion from this match.
Windlespur
20/07/2014 11:03:00
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Yes, Fredericks...is one to watch. 2 pacey forward runs with a end product (2 decent crosses).Plus...speed to recover one situation at the back. The future is bright...if managed right.
82spursdebut
20/07/2014 11:05:00
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Cider ... G’day mate, thanks for the ‘soccer’ report (good to see you getting in some practice for the new season!). I agree with all you said, especially regarding Ceballos and Falque who seemed just as composed as Bentaleb was in his first games last season. It’s all good at this stage.
Geofspurs
20/07/2014 11:07:00
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Good to see positive words for our youngsters, but I've read nothing about Ryan Mason, who I thought showed real vision at times with his work and also looked very comfortable on the ball, in a deeper role than he would probably ideally prefer
oxfordspur
20/07/2014 11:11:00
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I enjoyed the game although not the presentation by BT Sport. Was it just the americanisation? Just what a "friendly" should be. Main point in the game was that it showed MP how desperate we are for CB's. Also how much practice we need to control the ball on the first touch. (Maybe the artificial surface didn't help). Overall first-half defensively poor although Rose was nowhere near the worst. Passing from the back was terrible at times, mainly Dawson but all 4 at times found opponents. Holtby was immense, Capoue wasn't noticed but he cut out so much and sublime ball to Soldado in the second half. His first touch and movement then won him the penalty. Sadly I didn't realise Carroll was on the pitch in the first half or that Siggy wasn't. lol. Better defense 2nd half and so an improved performance from all the team. Good movement with "and without" the ball throughout the game along with high tempo pressing. Youngsters all acquitted themselves well, especially Ceballos and Falque when they came on. Nice to see Lamela playing in our colours again too. Entertainment for the locals and maybe converted a few more supporters from USA to our beloved team. Looking forward to the next. Posted this on the match thread too.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 11:12:00
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An hour of the match will be shown again on Monday on BT Sport 1 at 4.00pm GMT, and right after that from 5.00pm comes two hours of Preston North End vs Liverpool, for those who wish to see pre-season work elsewhere and specifically Liverpool minus some 'names' and perhaps with new additions too.
Airwave
20/07/2014 11:16:00
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Ox tbh saw Mason coming on but eager as I was I didn't hear his name being mentioned much thereafter. This could be down to the appalling commentary on btsports. Glad he did ok hope he stays fit and pushes for a spot in the 1st team!
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 11:27:00
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good entertaining game that showed me poch has them playing from the back up.this will take at lest a full season to implement.we could well in the meantime get some dodgy results.
tarkan mardinCOYS
20/07/2014 11:28:00
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this season should be a write off.with the emphasis on playing a brand new style
tarkan mardinCOYS
20/07/2014 11:44:00
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OX...I will take myself off to the naughty step once more. Yes you are right, I should have mentioned Ryan Mason, who again, as you rightly state came in and did very well. In my defence m'lord, I did state that I thought all our youngsters came in and did well. I suppose I should have mentioned him by name, I did offer the same courtesy to other youth players who featured last night.

On a closing note, and because we are friends, please remember that today is Sunday, I do not wish to be on this naughty step all day. I have Roast dinner football formations to take care of at some point. ;-)
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 11:46:00
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Was a draw a fair result? Did the Sounders look good and was it a hard fought match or just a walkabout? Was it a good test of our abilities and Pohettino's tactics?
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 11:51:00
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Is the Pope a Yid?
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 11:52:00
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I didn't see the game so really interesting to read people's views...it's a preseason so hard to gauge but it looks like MoPo is on brief with using the kids...we'll see how that develops over the next couple of seasons. Ceballos and Falque are talented players are they ready for the PL? ditto fredricks...has Poch sussed Andros? interesting times coming up...
shedboy2
20/07/2014 11:53:00
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Really enjoyed seeing the interchange in attack that made us much more unpredictable. Also liked seeing the pressure being put on by the nearest player to an opponent on the ball (even if it wasn't implemented quite as effectively as I'm sure it will with more practice). Holtby was very impressive and energetic and seemed to have the freedom to be wherever he wanted to be which he generally used to good effect. I was particularly impressed with Ceballos who really looked like someone who could come good. Soldado looked a bit sharper and didn't just get a penalty but rather won one. Lamela actually looked like the tricksy player we thought we were getting and I'm continually impressed by his grit considering how lightweight he looks. Not so good was the defence and the transition from defence to attack. Spent a lot of time slating Rose last season but both him and Fryers seemed to be the only reasonably composed defenders we had yesterday. Dawson was worse than awful even taking into consideration the context of the game. Kaboul was better but still not great. Capoue continues to be a disappointment with wayward tackling and being far too ponderous in possession whilst delivering a very poor quality of pass when he did get the ball away. All in all a reasonable start to preseason and I'm looking forward to seeing how that attacking play continues to improve and hoping we start to get sharper defensively over the next couple of games.
flipper
20/07/2014 11:55:00
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I'm hoping to see Eriksen start at 10 with Soldado up top and Lamela RWF next game. Great to see the young lads, and hopefully we'll see more, maybe even start Ceballos LW next game. All in all I was happy last night, some need to improve, but of course it is equally about getting fitness levels up and learning the "Philosophy." I certainly saw more intent regarding chasing down higher up the pitch, and to be fair, alot of the problems the Sounders caused ourselves were of our own making from the back.
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 12:01:00
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Thanks for the article Cider. I must say your take on the match is pretty much on the same drawer as mine. Nothing more than a runout on a plastic pitch! Thought it a pleasant surprise to see mr rose concentrate on his defensive duties. Carroll did well with such a short notice to start. Holtby Carroll and Kane should enjoy the great plaudits for the goal. Capoue and naughton well done for a positive half. Second half was a lot more pleasing to the eye... Pleased with several players .... IMO it's ridiculous to judge or claim anything for the forthcoming season based on yesterday. It was good to see the players and the management team in their rightful places though! What was the commentator on about ? siggy ? Have a good roast Sunday cider ....
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:02:00
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Sorry cider but, back to fantasy transfer gossip for a minute: Reports are saying that we're close to signing the Dutch player, Memphis Depay for £13m. I wonder...
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:05:00
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I do hope that MP saw it as more than just a run about...
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:08:00
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Shedboy2 if yesterday's game is anything to go by ... Caballos and falque along with the others needs to be decided ASAP however if the first half is anything to go by it adios time for azza and andros but the plastic pitch n all that... 2 more games .... Good to see Carroll holtby veljkovic Ryan and lamela play a significant role ! On to Toronto ... You who'll score don't you ? COTMS !!!
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:11:00
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Having missed the game last night, I have read the reports, and posts on here. Seems like players are try again, and are is starting to take on board our manager's formations, and ideas. Lamela is one i really want to see doing well.. soldado another. All the young players seem to have progressed, and the squad will allow Poch. to have a variety of options, according to the opposition we play in all competitions. Just that he has to make some tough decisions on sales and squad allocations !... COYS
Block D Spurs
20/07/2014 12:16:00
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Sorry some grammatically unusual typos in last post.. still a bit fuzzy head... lol
Block D Spurs
20/07/2014 12:19:00
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Block D it was impressive that both spurs teams showed that MRP's words are being listened to ... It'll be interesting to see if Dawson features again playing the way he did .... All the rest seem to have done ok .... Like to lamela and a few others get more time in next two games ...
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:20:00
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MAN ON .... re: that report about Depay, We had better get a move on if we want him. Chelsea appear to be losing Salah to the Egyptian army for 1 - 3 years. They'll be in for him now.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:24:00
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Block D ... you're not a "fuzzy wuzzy" are you ....lol.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:27:00
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Corporal Jones will be after you.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:28:00
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Have to agree Highgate. Azza needs to be a threat comparable to what we saw from Ceballos and Falque yesterday. It's fine all and sundry keep reminding us about his defensive side of his game, that's great. When are we going to start talking about his attacking prowess?, something that has been diminishing for what seems like an age now. Townsend I'll reserve judgement, just getting back from injuries.
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 12:28:00
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They don't like it up 'em do they..
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:29:00
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Depay looks excellent player, would love him at Spurs!
Thats Entertainment
20/07/2014 12:30:00
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Surely Chelsea could just bring back one of the 50+ wingers they have out on loan LOL!. Marin still plays for Chelsea doesn't he?. Maybe we should consider him for LW berth, he tore us new one a few seasons back.
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 12:33:00
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Just watched some brief highlights... Great goal from Lewis and with some nice build up play. 3 cooly taken pens. I hope Soldado can score more than just pens again. ;-) Looked like pretty bad defending for all 3 Sounders goals. I look forward to Toronto..... longtime, If we are really after Depay, I presume we'd be looking to offload one of our wingers.
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:35:00
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Cider .... during his world cup punditry Townsend was saying how he's been training hard to get back to fitness because of his injury. So theoretically he should be fitter than most on the pitch for THFC. Still head down, running down dead ends and losing the ball during last nights game. Didn't see him complete a dribble, he tried a few, or have a shot let alone on target. Poor again.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:35:00
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Don't Pjanić, Captain Medunjanin!
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:39:00
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Azza the defender - hmmmm - I'd prefer that to shown elsewhere - I'm certain he's gone stale at the club Cider - we need to be 'refreshed' ... Not one of the youngsters let the team down - great to see !
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:39:00
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Don't Pjanic, Captain Medunjanin!
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:40:00
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Salah is not Chelseas first choice though.........
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:43:00
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Man On ... got it first time. I wouldn't know how to spell it. Mainwaring is close enough for me. lol.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:45:00
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LTS, Townsend poor, you're not kidding, just part of the bloated squad that needs moving on, probably hang on for dear life, sucking the finances out of the club, like Bentley and Gomes did.
Thats Entertainment
20/07/2014 12:47:00
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Don't tell 'em who you are longtime!
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:47:00
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LTS I did laugh when AT said that ... Fitter doesn't mean he understands the game better ! Hope he saw what I saw in the 2nd half the others are a lot more closer to the 1st team than he thought they were !
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:47:00
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TE agree with you on that !
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 12:51:00
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Nice to talk Spurs' actual soccer for a change even though I've not seen the match. Roll on WHU... The near-future PL champions! I'm off to clean my mouth out. Have a good one. Up the Jolly Hotspurs!
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:53:00
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What do you Perch? I mean Man On
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:55:00
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Something fishy going on.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 12:56:00
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What needs to remembered is this period is all about Poch assessing what he has and areas that need strengthening. Townsend came in for much debate last season, only time will tell whether Poch is indeed the man who can improve players and get them playing to their maximum potential. We are not going to witness that after one pre season game.

To add balance, it was often said last season that technically Falque was very highly thought of when on loan, his downside was his inability to make the right choices in the final 3rd and get his head up. This is what I am trying to say, Townsend is quick, two footed, but his decision making all too often last season was poor, one pre season game for Falque looking the part does not equate to his arrival, he like Townsend will need to be worked on, ultimately concluding in either being valuable members of the squad when Poch has been given a few games to assess...or moved on once more.
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 12:58:00
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longtimespur... Has someone spiked your afternoon tea?
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 12:59:00
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I thought Falque looked liked he might be ready for PL football this season.
Thats Entertainment
20/07/2014 13:00:00
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Cider being fair that you are isn't it about time to give AT the message 'improve or some else is there' and give others a chance ?
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 13:02:00
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Fair point Cider. I can only call it as I see it. I haven't seen much of Falque so it's not a case of comparing one to the other by me. Just commenting on last night's game and Townsend looks the same as last season's end. Hopefully MP can straighten him out and make a footballer out of him instead of a sprinter.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 13:04:00
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Man On ... I thought you'd signed off sorry. No spiking here just normal me. lol
longtimespur
20/07/2014 13:07:00
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just watched the highlights...I don't think Brad should be beaten from that distance...the other goals we conceded it's hard to tell what happened just prior so can't comment....
shedboy2
20/07/2014 13:13:00
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I totally agree with the posts relating to AT and Daws. Only one game, so it needs to be remembered, however what that one game did, was remind us of their deficiencies and how there could well be better ready to step in. I do agree that AT needs to step up or be moved on, but I do wish to give Poch the chance to assess the squad properly before making judgement. As for Daws, I'm not sure about this 4th CB role for him. Alot for me depends on whether we retain Kaboul. Trust me, I'll be more critical as the pre season evolves, but at present, alot is about fitness and learning, I'll be keeping a beady eye to see if indeed some are learning and improving. At present, clean slate...Enjoy it whilst it lasts! ;-)
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 13:14:00
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Shed, their 2nd, beat our offside trap, hope that aint signs of things to come!!
Thats Entertainment
20/07/2014 13:16:00
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Not the priority, but Vorm will be a great squad addition for us - peterball will also be happy which is good :)
Windlespur
20/07/2014 13:19:00
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Cider the slate is less clean than this time yesterday? It's sad to see ayers coming into the game as if no work has been done or no advice has been listened to nor any self reflection made - sad but true ...
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 13:21:00
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TE.. that's right. Factor in though that it was a back four that hadn't played together before. The back four line just wasn't that (a line). One defender on our left was hanging deep and played their left side player onside. Simple error to rectify. Trouble followed when our left side defenders didn't track the runner.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 13:23:00
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Bit of ITK out there stating Rose is not a happy Bunny and if the right offer comes in he will be off. This after it seems we have completed a deal for Davies, with him expected to be announced today or tomorrow. Siggy it appears going the other way, but separate deal so maybe announced in a day or two.

It is said immediate expectations have been lowered, but 4th still the target. Long term expectations are high. Courtesy Grey Fox...SC...Today.
Cider spurs
20/07/2014 13:25:00
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Cider oh my that's a surprise from Mr Rose the self anointed best LB in the world of football... Can I please offer my services to hold the door open to hold the door open...
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 13:33:00
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So, If it all goes sour for Poch in his first 5 months, will we see Ugo Ehiogu in as caretaker coach, come January?
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 13:41:00
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Hmm, a pre-season assessment....!

Ox did fine with the pre-match article. Cider seems to have stopped paying attention, forgetting some players and constantly being distracted by the Sunday Roast! Both could do better, so 7/10 and 5/10 respectively for their return to the season!!.

Regarding the match last night, rather than Poch assessing the squad, imo, it was primarily assessing the 'kids', all of whom IMO did themselves proud, so much so that the likes of Lennon, Townsend and Dawson were put to shame. The three senior players mentioned above best watch out .....or they are out!!. Regarding the Poch way (philosophy) I like the concept, attack at speed, defend by closing down at speed. His style demands more than just 'keep it simple' and seeing how some of the 'kids' adapted, I am beginning to wonder why Bentelab got looked ahead of the others!!. It will be very interesting to see how the WC returnees will fit in. I am mostly excited by what I saw y'day. Poch has his work cut out to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Critical_Spur
20/07/2014 13:42:00
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Let's not start the whole Fascist dictator stuff all over again....... Grandad, Grandad, you're lovely.........
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 13:44:00
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Thanks Highgate... i will see the highligts of goals soon.... Longtime ... now clearing the fuzzyness, water is a great healer for fuzzy heads after the night before.. !
Block D Spurs
20/07/2014 13:46:00
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Hair of the dog's even better.....
MAN ON!
20/07/2014 13:48:00
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Positive thinking.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9388255/tottenham-boss-mauricio-pochettino-targets-premier-league-title-success
Critical_Spur
20/07/2014 13:53:00
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Critical, I agree with your observations - yup I think the youngsters knew more of what's expected no matter what the match , liked lamelas input as well. There were at least two ahead of Nabil it was claimed at the time....
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 13:58:00
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Good article Cider as usual mate. I really enjoyed watching the youngsters playing with skill and pace. Holtby was excellent and proved again he is a talent worth keeping. Lamella, Cellabos and Falque showed technique and the ability to go past players. Kane again has shown he could be an important for us. Rose was steady and I'm pleased for him. I gave him some stick last season but maybe the Ben Davies deal has given him the kick up the backside. Soldado was brilliant in creating the penalty. Deft flick, pace and a bit if strength. How cool did he take that penalty? Dawson looked a bit shaky with his distribution but so was a certain Mr Adams. Mabe too late to learn but if Adams can pass surely Dawson can? He had a poor game for Spurs but I'll judge him at the start of the season. It's unfair to judge with one competitive game played but I'm losing faith in him. He's been a good player for us but he will be seen as the weakest link at the back. A new footballing CB will be needed if we are to play from the back. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
20/07/2014 14:02:00
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Highgate, I hope and pray that I am proved wrong regards Townsend. But I seriously wonder if his solitary claim to fame will the he was Man of the match for England ONCE! Hope Poch coaches him well to bring out the best for all concerned. IMO AT is trying too hard and too selfishly.
Critical_Spur
20/07/2014 14:13:00
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a nice touch for the lad at the start of the match....Kaboul looked pretty strong sorting out the melee at the end...although we scored 3...2 were Pens, hope we're not going down that route again...;)
shedboy2
20/07/2014 14:28:00
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Shedboy2 if we score 60 penalties this season I'll be very happy.
longtimespur
20/07/2014 14:56:00
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Critical - AT is consistently showing that he doesn't how to learn almost like that England game was his pinnacle ... Hope not but looking that way really hope not ...really liked the interchanging in the second half. Would dearly love to play 3 at the back successfully .... Encouraged by lamela's performance.
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 15:03:00
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CB's need sorting - Kaboul injury prone, Dawson showed us he seems to be getting worse, lost his composure. Townsend, may be lack of fitness and coming back from injury but he is nowhere near a starter. Lennon was woeful, what is happening with him. Capoue didn't show us anything special. Rose if he is unhappy re Davies coming, if true, then he can go. He did ok yesterday but his problem is his attitude, thinking he is better than he is. If he believes he is that good then why be concerned about competition. Last season he was average at best, he should have competition, he hasn't done enough to warrant being first choice for a club of our stature.

The youngsters were better than the senior players. IMO if Townsend, Lennon, Capoue, Dawson, Kaboul don't step up in the next pre seasons game they should not be first choice any more. Well done Holtby, Lamela will come good if he works hard and can adjust to the physicality of the PL.
BigSpursFan
20/07/2014 15:04:00
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Shedboy2 remember when we couldn't put our penalties away to save our lives... Yes I would like soldado to score goals from open play but would like him to continue the scoring of the penalties as well...
Highgatespur
20/07/2014 15:06:00
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I think three at back with two wing backs could work. Lloris Vlad Dawson/Kaboul/? Vertonghen Walker ? Sandro Lamela Eriksen/Holtby Townsend/? Ade/Soldado/Kane/?
BigSpursFan
20/07/2014 15:08:00
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I watched the game and was also impressed by some of the youngsters. Not so sure about our defence though. Hopefully it will be better come hammertime. Most impressive player was Holtby, but we all know he is capable all over the midfield. Is that his real problem? We have two ball playing cb's, if Kaboul can recapture some pre-injury form we will have three. Dawson I think is too limited for Pochs' style, but is by far our best set-play defender. Should we swap him for Ashley Williams, who imho is the most underrated cb in the league? Townsend was also poor when running with the ball, but I think the pitch was partly to blame. He is no longer looking over his shoulder at Falque and Cabellos as they have shown they are as ready as he is. Lennon really needs to do more. He gets completely lost if he is moved away from the right wing and for that reason alone will be shifted on. I can see Lamela , Ericsson and another playing right across the mid behind a striker. Chadli, holtby, Siggy, Townsend and Lennon are pole for that spot but I think Poch has his own idea and they are not it.
pokerfaced
20/07/2014 15:15:00
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Trouble is I've seen brilliant pre seasons followed by terrible starts in the league and vice versa. These days I just ignore the friendlies and wait for the league games to start.
jod
20/07/2014 15:49:00
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What I saw yesterday, plenty of passing. Quick and sharp. 100% ? No but its a start. Players seemed to know where the teammates are on the pitch better. Players are also chasing after the ball when they lose possession immediately.
Arky
20/07/2014 16:04:00
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