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Young Guns: Go For It?

One thing seems evident with our summers transfer activity and that is that we are looking at the players age and ability to "run around, a bit"…

From the players we are seemingly looking to recruit and offload, it seems evident that we are looking for players of quality, but who also have youth to develop, which also works well for Levy and Enic, as it also offers a greater potential to sell on and a big profit (not that I blame them).

Equally important, is that we are seemingly looking at players with energy and willingness to play the Poch way. A high pressing game and one that of course demands fitness, a strong work ethic, as well as excellent technical qualities.

Now I`m not discounting players who are closing in on thirty, as being over the hill, but when it is rumoured that we are looking to move on the likes of Dawson, Kaboul and a few others, is this really surprising?

Of course there are other deciding factors, beyond age. there is an injury record, ability to play a system and the their contract situation. Kaboul and Dawson have one and two years remaining on their current deals, so there is the obvious need to address this, one way or another. Thing is, you just know that any new arrival is likely to be under 25.

Whilst accepting there are several strong reasons why we need to go with youth, does this then detract from the team and squad, in terms of experience? Without looking too closely, I see a potential that our regular line-ups could have an average age of under 25, when players are not supposed to hit their peaks until they pass 28. Is this sensible?

We have already argued that there are too few leaders in the squad and though age doesn`t guarantee you can positively wear the armband and have respect of the other players, it usually helps to have life skills and experience, not just to lead the team, but to also have a decent percentage of character and years amongst the XI.

In todays Tottenham team, is there an expectation that the way we play and having every player drilled to do their job, is more important than the date on the players passports. I have stated previously that the Captaincy role has been diluted massively over the Prem era, but that doesn`t mean we have to dismiss the value of a few older pros, when things get tough...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Friday August 8 2014
Time: 6:55AM

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I am excited about the start of a new season. Come and you SPURS and Win Win Win !
Madaboutspurs
08/08/2014 07:03:00
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We certainly have a lot of potential in the squad. I am interested to see how our new coach fair with the talent.
Madaboutspurs
08/08/2014 07:05:00
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Yes the shivers of anticipation are starting. Expectation is at sensible levels I feel compared with last year. We know what we want - flair and style first and foremost. Excite the crowd and the players will respond. Narrow defeats will be forgiven as long as the shots on target stat is high. Top4 is a tough nut to crack but there are 3 cups to win and CL quaification through the EL must be our focus.
Love totty
08/08/2014 07:26:00
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Yes OX - the lack of leaders may undo us. Precious little character was shown last year when the chips were down. We need grit and determination as well as talent.
Love totty
08/08/2014 07:30:00
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Not long left now, am excited to see what team is played and how we play over 90 mins. Pochettino did various interviews yesterday and he is confident and hopefully the players believe in him. He stated that Dawson will be captain while he is still at the club and that Lamela as well as other players will play a more free role, a fluid attacking system. Bring the season on.
Kong
08/08/2014 08:18:00
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We really need an experienced player as club captain.. younger players need encouragement and advice on the field during games. As when we are chasing the game for example, or down to 10 men. While Hugo is France captain, i feel we need a MF player, like Roy Keane. Sandro is close, but he is injury prone...Daws is not going to play too much this season, if he is still here.
Block D Spurs
08/08/2014 08:19:00
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you'll win nothing with kids! (people will quote Hanson and Manu yet they had plenty of experience in the team and went out and bought the leagues best player in Cantona!)....we need a mix of youth and experience but imo our squad is getting there in the mid to late 20's we have too many CB's so that needs sorting..imo no given Verts will sign...how long does it take? some of our 'Yoof' are never going to be top PL players as much as some try and hype them up, they can train in the best facilities yet they'll never get there...we need some better raw material...LW/Forward...
shedboy2
08/08/2014 08:49:00
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we have character a plenty in the squad- we don't have leadership off it! perhaps MoPo can inspire us this term -but if he get's short changed by Levy (again!) then the trickle down effect will continue...Levy show some ambition, buy real quality and demonstrate to the team and fans that you mean (football) business!...I won't hold my breath!
shedboy2
08/08/2014 08:57:00
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Shedboy2, you saying Townsend's not good enough for LW?
Kong
08/08/2014 08:57:00
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where's our Cantona?.....
shedboy2
08/08/2014 08:58:00
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Kong- exactly - Townsend isn't anywhere near consistent enough (unless you count not assisting or scoring!)..imo he's another routledge...but with more pace and less football ability!
shedboy2
08/08/2014 09:00:00
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Not sure who our best captain would be for the long term in our current squad, probably Lloris. I don't think Sandro is a good option as I always sense he is a brain freeze away from collecting a red card.
Geofspurs
08/08/2014 09:05:00
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Ditto Madaboutspur! We have a very good squad, with the potential to break the top 4! Very excited to see how we play/pan out for the rest of the season. COYS!
a.k.a.james1spurs
08/08/2014 09:15:00
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MAN ON!
08/08/2014 09:22:00
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we don't have the firepower to finish top4....
shedboy2
08/08/2014 09:43:00
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Ox can you change the article title, I thought your profile had been hacked....
T.H.F.Chris
08/08/2014 09:43:00
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I agree Shedboy2, i think we'll lose too much ground settling everybody into the Poch way but hopefully come on strong in the cups, EL especially,
Love totty
08/08/2014 09:46:00
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one of reports of MP press conference .... interesting !!! F http://tottenhamhotspur.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/mauricio-pochettino-training-ground.html
longtimespur
08/08/2014 09:48:00
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Madabout.. keep going this season with your WIN support posts... lol
Block D Spurs
08/08/2014 09:58:00
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As Spuds the new season is almost upon us!

Soon we will be able to trade insults based on on-pitch-performances rather than history or which club is the bigger etc etc etc.

Expectations for the season ahead? I think you lot are looking at anywhere from 4th-6th but if I had to bet I'd go for 6th. Being realistic (an difficult concept for Spurs fans to grasp I know) with the squad you currently have 6th is about where I'd see you. With a new manger a season of relatively stability is what you need. Give Poc time to see if he is actually the real deal or was he just lucky with the players Soton had. Still some big questions over how your team will setup, as it stands you will struggle to score goals. Additions on the up front and on the wing in particular are urgently required. Your back line is not that bad, Schn if he comes from Soton will make a huge difference.

Pool will seriously struggle this season, losing Suarez is a massive loss and without him the fear factor teams had last season of the Pool attack with be gone.

United, despite a positive pre-season still need to make a serious signing this summer to hit the top 4.

Ourselves, Chelsea and City will have the top 3 (maybe not in that order).

Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 10:12:00
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...can anyone smell something???
olliewebb
08/08/2014 10:26:00
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Galaway – I don’t know why you Guys seem to think you have a divine right to finish in the top 4. Despite THFC having a complete meltdown You barley clung onto 4th spot last season by your finger nails. You have bought Sanchez who is a decent buy, not at all who Arsenal Needed but a good buy. You have sold a decent RB in Sagna and replaced him with a very average RB, you are about to lose one of your best defenders, you still only have one notable striker on your books. I just don’t seem to understand the blind arrogance of Arsenal Supports for next season. We have a nightmare of a season last year, we lost our best player (one of the very best at the moment), we tried (badly) to integrate several new players into a completely new system, we changed managers (again) half way through the season for a manager with absolutely no managerial experience whatsoever yet only finished 10 points behind the mighty Arsenal

Im not making any bets on who finishes higher than who this year, im hoping for some enjoyable football and am talking things as they come. I just think that by the end of the season a few of the pundits, media broadcasters (in particular the w&nk3r Adrian Durham!) and Gooners will be eating their hats.
hudderspur
08/08/2014 10:26:00
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^^^ smells bad!!
olliewebb
08/08/2014 10:27:00
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Galway - A pretty fair assessment, as per usual. Like you, I think there is an outside chance of us scraping 4th. But us being Spurs, at the outset of every single season the chances are just about equal of us being champions or being relegated!! The only thing I disagree with you on is that I don't think Liverpool will struggle as much as some are saying. I think Rodgers hes been really canny with his inbound transfers. And whilst Suarez is one of a handful of players for whom there isn't a like-for-like replacement, I can see a couple of others (Coutinho for one) picking up the baton and running with it. I actually think they may pip your lot for 3rd again, leaving you free to take your annual 4th placed berth. Man City to retain, Chelsea runners up, and Man Utd taking 5th with us in 6th is my best guess as things stand. My heart sings a different tune obviously, but that's what my head is telling me. I think your team will suffer, as will we, from inadequate back-up in the striking department. Barring a radical u-turn in form from Soldado for us, and/or Sanogo or a.n other becoming genuine competition/cover for Giroud for you, I think we will both be outgunned (no pun intended) when it comes to the goals scored column. As much as it sticks in my throat, I am probably looking forward to watching Sanchez in our league more than any other new signing. Although, I am quietly confident that Lamela will also embarrass more than one defence in the weeks to come. Not long now mate!! Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
08/08/2014 10:27:00
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Not talking about you by the way hudderspur!!! You just posted at the wrong time mate!!! haha!!!!!
olliewebb
08/08/2014 10:28:00
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yeah olliewebb,it stinks of sheit
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:28:00
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GG can't argue on your top 3, as much as I'd like to, but it will be interesting to see how our squad take to MP's style of play. I don't really expect top 4 in his first season, maybe 5th more likely 6th depending on how Everton, Pool and Man U cope this season. Can't imagine any others having a big say in top 7/8 . Maybe Newcs? Unlike you I think our main problem area is defensive. If we do not buy another quality CB then I wouldn't be surprised to see Verts in a huff again and maybe angling for a move. It still isn't confirmed he has signed his new contract, which in itself is a worry. I have absolutely no idea who our starting 11 will be apart from Lloris. Soo much bull**** in the press and soo little coming out of THFC. Hard life being a yiddo but wouldn't change it for the world. Went to Highbury most home games during late 60s early 70s with a mate. He came to WHL most home games with me. Lost contact when I married and moved away at start of 71/72 season. Never been back to goonerland since. Good wishes for the season, would love to finish above your lot but brain says different.
longtimespur
08/08/2014 10:29:00
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Galway, it's very nice to be able to talk to a club in a similar situation to us, we supply Real and you supply Manchester (i respect the fact you don't discriminate between red and blue, shows a bit of class). Arsenal are still weak at the back and are missing a world class dm. off this reason I think you won't win the league but seeing as you have Wenger you will be top 4. Spurs under Poch with investment in the right areas will surprise a lot the season.
spurticus87
08/08/2014 10:29:00
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arsenal aint top 3 certainties.far from it.i agree the chavs and man city will occupy the first 2 positions.than its open
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:31:00
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Can't argue with that GG.
Geofspurs
08/08/2014 10:34:00
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lucky punks the celts
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:40:00
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anybody here looking forward to the europa cup draw?
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:40:00
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longtime/GG ... I started my supporting career by going to Spurs one week and Arsenal the next ... and then it was mostly Spurs every week wherever they played. But that was an easy decision in the early sixties! I suppose if both teams had performed differently at that time my favourite colour would be red!! Thank God for Dave Mackay!
Geofspurs
08/08/2014 10:41:00
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Geof, imagine how bored you would be over at vital arsenal...
spurticus87
08/08/2014 10:45:00
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Galway - you're probably right about 4th to 6th. We just need to focus on being the underdog. Anything worse than 6th won't be good but I think we'll surprise a few folks and leverage what is a pretty decent and deep squad at WHL. Of course, it could be even stronger by the end of this month as all our potential signings seem in the negotiation phase rather than on the official website. We're quite used to that.

As for you guys, I think Wenger has strengthened it but I still don't see your back line and spine as being strong enough yet for a title charge. I rate Koscielny and to a certain extent Mersacker but you need 8 good defenders or a lot of luck with injuries. You're also asking a lot of Arteta, Diaby or Flamini for the strength and quality in midfield. I have a feeling that Wenger isn't finished yet in the transfer market or perhaps he has kids coming through he trusts in those positions. I know Mourinho did when he slotted in Kalas at Anfield. That surprised us all.

Anyway, we'll find out in these next few months. I hope the CL effect at Anfield pays its price. I also think we can jump ahead of Everton again now we're getting organised under Poch. Utd have bottomed out and will now rise again. This season should be the best ever.
muttley
08/08/2014 10:45:00
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Hudd - I t don't think that anyone has a divine right to finish anywhere in the league. However, history does suggest that we seem to have gotten the hang of it.

Sanchez is far more than a "decent" buy and if that's all you think he is then.....

Sagna is a loss, no doubt, but Dub looks good so far and in fairness keeps him out of the first team for France so is hardly a bad player. "Lose one of our best defenders" - you cant surely mean Vermalen??? He's hasn't been anything but third choice for over a 18 months.

No arrogance here but I do think that the gap between ourselves will be greater than 10 points this season.

Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 10:47:00
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galway-remember when you came on here salivating around mezut ozil?
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:49:00
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and he was useless
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 10:51:00
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We'll have to redefine the term "useless" Tarkan.

Anyone who thinks Ozil is useless is quite simply an idiot.

I think 10 assists and 5 goals in 25 odd games isn't a bad return for a player new to the league.

Want to take a bet here that this "useless" player will be the most creative player in the league this season? Because I think he will.

Or is your money on Lamella????

Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 10:58:00
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spurticus ... I know, too scary to think about!! :-)
Geofspurs
08/08/2014 11:01:00
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The points gap will be less than 10 points. That I would bet on.
hudderspur
08/08/2014 11:05:00
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Galway Gooner, can I have that bet for the first 5 games that Lamela will be more productive than Ozil? :)
Kong
08/08/2014 11:05:00
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Galway - what I would find disturbing about Ozil is that although he was new to the league, he started outstanding...then trailed off badly. Don't know if it was mental, physical, or whatever. So I would not use the "new to the league" argument. Potentially Ozil is an asset. But he also showed that potentially he can be nondescript. Unless we have a stinker of a season, the difference between us will be less than 10 points. Arsenal are pretty consistent. But I cannot see you guys getting 79 points again with Man U back in the fray. All points totals will come down from last season.
TonyRich
08/08/2014 11:06:00
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Your on Hudd - end of season if the gap is greater than 10 points you post on here and on Vital Arsenal that "its time to accept that Spurs will forever be in Arsenal's shadow".

If its the other way around I'll post "it's time to accept that there is no gap between the clubs and the future looks Lillywhite".

;-)

Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 11:08:00
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One thing we can say is that since we will start the season with essentially the same squad as last season then any improvements in performances and results will be down to Poch. Similarly, any movement the other way will also be down to Poch. The interest for me is to see what difference Poch will make when we actually start playing in the EPL. Hopefully, it will be a revelation for us and I wish him all the success as he seems a genuine nice guy and real football man.
Harry-Kari
08/08/2014 11:08:00
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Tony - Ozil's form dropped off when he lost runners to pick out. Giroud is an effective but limited front man and sprinting is not his game. When Theo, Ox and then Ramsey went out injured for a few months Ozil had no one to really pass to.

You watch him this season with Sanchez and Theo and see how many goals he'll get.

He'll be up for the PFA player of the year this season.

Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 11:10:00
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Kong - well considering that Ozil is unlikely to feature for the first few games for us its seems a tad in your favour!
Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 11:12:00
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Shedboy2, could our cantona be the one and only Danny Rose ? Who knows he might deliver the secrets that his supporters see !!!
Highgatespur
08/08/2014 11:12:00
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Galway Gooner, I was hoping you didn't know Ozil starts training next week :), the bet is still on tho if you want.
Kong
08/08/2014 11:15:00
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Doesn't say much for us to be welcoming a goon onto a spurs forum !!
Highgatespur
08/08/2014 11:16:00
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If we do get MM then I cant see Vlad staying to be 3rd/4th choice CB. Better to sell Vlad for same as we paid 9m and sell injury prone Kaboul if Napoli do want him for 6m. This is 2 big earners off the books for MM who is 23, Dier 20, Verts 26 and Dawson 30, if he wants to stay as 4th choice. We also have Velkjvic and Fryers who are under 21 as back up. With Lloris and Vorm in goal, Walker, Dier, Fredericks and Davies, Rose, Fryers as FB's, we actually have what looks like a settled group of defenders with competition for every place, a lot of young defenders with a couple of old heads. I just realised I forgot about Naughton, who could be sold and you might even argue that we don't need Dawson and that will bring the average age of our defence down to under 25.
vicspur
08/08/2014 11:17:00
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Kong - I'd still take that bet!
Galway Gooner
08/08/2014 11:17:00
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Galway - ok. I think it was more than that personally. As for us struggling to score goals, if you look back to last season under AVB we scored just 15 goals in 16 games. During Sherwood's adjustments with the same squad, we got 40 in 22 - which is a goal rate higher than Arsenal for the whole season. The squad has goals in it, it is up to the right tactics. As I said earlier, unless we have a stinker (which is always possible with a new manager) we should score far more than last year.
TonyRich
08/08/2014 11:20:00
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Love Totty, while it is nice to play pretty exciting football, the measure of a good team is how many points they accrue in a season, it is all about success. Pretty attractive football never won anything, the only way to go, is to combine attractive football, with defensive solidity, and to score enough goals to win. One goal is enough in some games if we don't concede. What we must avoid at all cost are firstly embarrassing defeats against the lower teams, and getting stuffed, as we did last season, against the top teams. I would personally settle for boring a few people, and finishing top 4, rather than exciting everybody, and finishing half way down. Playing "the Tottenham way" should be redefined as winning regularly, rather than dazzling, without an end result. We need to develop the habit of winning whether playing well or not.
Frank
08/08/2014 11:20:00
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Galway Gooner, I doubt Ozil will even play in the first five games.
Kong
08/08/2014 11:21:00
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mezut ozil is like our very own paulinho.both decided some time ago the league is too tough for them
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 11:24:00
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I agree with giving youngsters their chance on one condition, that they are in on merit, not because they are either "our home growns" or just because they are youngsters. We should play the best available 11 players with sensible rotation, given the 4 comps situation, in every game. We must never pick a weakened team and risk a result.
Frank
08/08/2014 11:26:00
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@tarkan, made me smile!
spurticus87
08/08/2014 11:29:00
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Off topic, but I notice all reference to Musacchio has completely disappeared from both the "Red Top" press, and the usual suspect bollox purveyor websites. I think it is just being allowed to die quietly, I think it is fair to say, that the dream of Musacchio in a Spurs shirt is history.
Frank
08/08/2014 11:31:00
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Frank agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly - IMO that's one of the main reasons we fail to reach our targets every year !
Highgatespur
08/08/2014 11:31:00
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Frank, MM speculation was maybe all hot air ... As was 99% of the 'targets' this summer. The players we signed this year all seemed to be done under the radar ... Says a lot for the so called ITKs and the media ! Btw do agree that players should only play through meritocracy and that should apply to all not just the youngsters.
Highgatespur
08/08/2014 11:36:00
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Frank ... Not sure I agree with you there. I enjoy football, the world game, played as it should be played; ideally, competitive attacking football, fearless and full of flair. Football that attracts fans and inspires its following. The kind of football we played under Arry with Berba, Modric et al. If success comes at the price of watching a defensive minded team struggle to win 1-0 every week, then it costs too much. I would rather see my team play exciting, entertaining football, consistently .... even if that costs us trophies. Many, if not most, would disagree, but it’s just my opinion.
Geofspurs
08/08/2014 11:38:00
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Musacchio will happen, it is better when it is all quiet as something is happening behind the scenes.
Kong
08/08/2014 11:40:00
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Geofspurs. I wholeheartedly agree.
MAN ON!
08/08/2014 11:40:00
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Top three will be City, Chelsea, Arsenal, next three will be ourselves, United, Liverpool, everton will be mid-table strugglers. Liverpools goals against was rpetty poor, Suarze did more then jsut score goals, he created the spaces for others to profit as well. HE will be sorely missed and has not been replaced. United have yet to adress their defensive line and are one injury away from a striking crisis! Spurs are very much an unknown with the arrival of Pochettino and the poor performance and injury record from the bulk of our first team last season but we still managed 6th. A steady start by Spurs will make our season alot more comfortable and may well set us up for a season run in battle for fourth. You can't under-estimate the advantage of a settled squad and settled management structure. This is where City and Arsenal and Chelsea have the advantage, although with Chelsea you don't know when the sword of Damocles will fall!

I agree with Galway that our focus should be a season of stability in terms of the management and also a learning curve for the manager to establish a team in his image and to mould or sign the players he needs. 6th would be an adequate return with a cup won as the ideal. The Europa league will be cut throat this season with the prize of Champions league qualification dangling at the end. Hull, Everton and Spurs will be in the mix conceivably Liverpool and arsenal could drop down into the competition as well!
Slurms McKenzie
08/08/2014 11:51:00
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Geof I'd agree with you that for two of every three years that would be nice, as long as the third year playing puke football we lift the league and european double!!
Slurms McKenzie
08/08/2014 11:58:00
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Musccahio has gone quiet because the deal is done and also because LVG probably has a press conference to discuss how he will approach his next bowel movement so the red tops and sky are salivating over the info!
Slurms McKenzie
08/08/2014 12:00:00
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Geof as we said before, you've seen the team achieve the ultimate... For many of us we have yet to experience that.... If rather play winning football than entertaining football which doesn't lead to winning .... Modders et al gave us fleeting moments of what could be ... I want to better those moments over a longer period of time - we didn't win anything with them and that's why they left for new pastures ... I want Spurs to be winners above anything else! OVER 50 years of waiting is too long to be romanticising about the Glory Years. We need more of it in the modern times !
Highgatespur
08/08/2014 12:01:00
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We could conceivably benefit from being a bit of an underdog/unknown quantity this coming season. By that I mean I believe we will be set up very differently from Spurs teams of the last few years, and with a couple of players who are essentially new signings having barely registered last year. I still believe we are looking at between 4th and 6th, with my head overruling my heart and telling me it will be the latter. But what is exciting to me is the prospect of my team genuinely being up for the scrap and not backing down to anyone. Caution blighted AVB's reign, and tactical ineptitude blighted Tim's. Pochettino showed last season that caution and ineptitude don't come into his vocabulary. The difference being, he now has a bigger and better squad to lead. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
08/08/2014 12:04:00
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Slurms - Are you on holiday yet?, give us a chance to get onto the league table :).
Kong
08/08/2014 12:08:00
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AEL Limassol it is than.
tarkan mardinCOYS
08/08/2014 12:16:00
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Trip to Cyprus.
Kong
08/08/2014 12:19:00
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Best of the bunch a nice trip to Cyrpus not too bad flight wise, but a hostile home crowd!

Kong, I'm on the wind down now. I've already checked out in mind if not in body. "Fleadh" week in Sligo from Monday so copious amounts of alcohol will be consumed under the osposis of listening to tradtional music competitions!!!!
Slurms McKenzie
08/08/2014 12:21:00
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Anyone heard of them?
In-spurs-ational
08/08/2014 12:22:00
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Celtic must be the most undeserving champions league qualifiers!!! What a crowd of plonkers those Poles must be destroyed celtic and then blew it so they could give their new boy a trot out for four minutes!!!
Slurms McKenzie
08/08/2014 12:23:00
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13 Watford 38 12 9 17 45 -10
14 WBA 38 10 13 15 43 -14
15 Crystal Palace 38 11 9 18 42 -12
16 AFC Bournemouth 38 11 9 18 42 -22
17 Sunderland 38 9 12 17 39 -14
R Newcastle 38 9 10 19 37 -21
R Norwich 38 9 7 22 34 -28
R Aston Villa 38 3 8 27 17 -49
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1.Kinygerbils297
2.meee93202
3.Nick Real Deal200
4.Big Chiv196
5.Real Deal188
6.steveperryman158
7.Pollo146
8.dogeatdog118
9.Highgatespur117
10.80deg16minW111