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Preview: Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester City 2017 ICC

Preview: Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester City 2017 ICC

Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City are taking over Nashville, Nissan Stadium this Saturday, 29 July 2017 in what will be their last International Champions Cup match.

Kick off 5:00 PM (CDT), 11:00 PM BST - the game is live within the UK on Premier Sports.



Will Kyle Walker play against us for the very first time since he made the City move? Does anyone care?

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COYS!




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Writer:Tino
Date:Friday July 28 2017
Time: 3:05PM

Comments

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Tough game for both teams which is how a pre-season game should be. I'm guessing it'll be tougher for City to the tune of 3-0. Two goals for Benny Boy and an own goal by City's new, world-class, right wing-back.
Geofspurs
28/07/2017 17:06:00
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I know. There's no justice in football. It's almost as bad as the legal system! The countdown to Newcastle has well and truly started. Poch is quoted (whatever that means) as saying Spurs will see more transfer window business. I guess Dele, both Harrys, Hugo, Moussa, and Christian will be off then. I've already started preparing all my anti Levy comments and 'Poch out' remarks so that I can keep up with the VS discussions. Gotta love football.
Geofspurs
29/07/2017 01:15:00
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DA .... It's probably for the Aussie audience .... it's night-time here! :-)
Geofspurs
29/07/2017 11:54:00
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Looking forward to the test tonight v a PL side. Hope to see a bit more of Georgiu and Josh, but would like us to field a stronger defence to start with. Jannsen to score again. 2-1 spurs. COYS, WuR!
Critical_Spur
29/07/2017 16:30:00
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Edwards new contract, just shows how much the media lies
It'sME
29/07/2017 16:36:00
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I think this game is cruical when it comes to which youngsters are going to be trusted to play a part this season. It's against a PL side, one of our competitors and with only one game after this where I think most of the first team will play this game I feel is the most important for the youngsters. So CV, KWP, Josh, GK, Georgui, will need to impress. I think Jannsen needs to step up, and the other emphasis will be on the regulars improving their fitness and see if they can bring a good performance together. I really hope we don't lose, not happy about Walker being sold to them, I think he jumped ship to a club which he thinks are better than us and more likely to win the title and silverware. Hmm has he forgot about Chelsea and Utd who I think will also be strong contenders. Anyway, we have a good shout over next few seasons, but hey ho players come and go.
It'sME
29/07/2017 16:51:00
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Could be a real test for our defence if Poch chooses to play one. City may have to go to their bench and bring on Aguero and Sterling and we can go to ours and bring on a couple of hyphenated surnamed juniors if things are tough.
Harry-Kari
29/07/2017 16:52:00
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Apostrophe's, Hyphenated's and pause 's and full stop's, but hope it ends with an exclamation mark of joy! COYS! WuR!
Critical_Spur
29/07/2017 17:21:00
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Today's game will be all about conditioning of the expected starters and bench players and giving those on the bubble of being in the senior team this year the last chance to make their case. Those that do will be in the squad and those that don't will be replaced by people in the market. Against Newcastle will see selection from Loris, Vorm, Trippier, Alderweirald, Vertonghen, Davies, Dier, Wanyama, Dembele, Winks, Nkoudou, Erikssen, Dier, Kane, Janssen. Wimmer (unless replaced), CCV, Onomah, KWP, Son if recovered etc. Rose and Lamela bring us to about 22 first team members. A few more will be added. Should be exciting to watch. Hoping to see if Nkoudou continues to grow in confidence and to see if Georgiou can build on the last appearance.
peterballb
29/07/2017 17:23:00
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Taking it serious?

Team to play Manchester City: Lloris, Trippier, Dier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Davies, Dembele, Winks, Eriksen, Dele, Kane.
critical_spur
29/07/2017 21:57:00
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Dele - agree, but reading media is addictive. Anyway, Edwards is done and now I want Toby sorted. Enjoy the game everyone
It'sME
29/07/2017 22:10:00
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DA, I think we're getting to a point where our key players need to start exerting for more than 45 mins. I am also not expecting as many subs too early this time round. The same pattern may also follow v Juventus. Let's start building a head of steam before the Newcastle game. WuR!

Off topic... I see Conte suffered a tragedy v Milan!
critical_spur
29/07/2017 22:49:00
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I think the subs and intensity of the game will also be dictated by how City approach it. I expect Walker will be well up for it!!... Looking forward to seeing Davies and Verts keeping him quiet.
critical_spur
29/07/2017 22:56:00
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We don't like being pressed. :(
critical_spur
29/07/2017 23:10:00
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One thing for sure, City ain't gonna allow us to play backwards and sideways. Real problem in playing out from the back. COYS.
critical_spur
29/07/2017 23:22:00
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Is it me or is this ref incompetent. Lloris passing some shocking balls. ... I dot care about the result being a friendly ...but not liking this ref. This shows we need players to step up today ...
E17YID
29/07/2017 23:26:00
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I am reading commentary and I didn't read anything about Dele, next to nothing about Eriksen and kane, no mention of Dembele but read lots about Lloris savings us. This suggests City was all over us
It'sME
29/07/2017 23:45:00
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Lloris, his distribution has been so poor today, city, have been allowed to play by us. Only a friendly so not to worried.
E17YID
29/07/2017 23:46:00
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We get 1 chance per 15 mins. Clinical and we'd be matching them...on goals. But, shows though all the usual slow build up won't work against this City side. When we try to move the ball faster, bad passes or poor ball control. I'd like to see Wanyama replace Dier and N'Koudou for Dele. We have no one that can carry the ball forward imo....not against a pressing side. Even our players are getting in each others' way, often intercepting passes that are intended for someone else. Poch will sort it out and Watch us Rise!
critical_spur
29/07/2017 23:47:00
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Critical I think Wanyama is injured! I think our build up is going to be slow because we haven't got any pace in the side, now Walker has gone, Rose is out, Son is injured and Wanyama drives forward is also injured I believe. Rest of the team are not exactly fast. I hope Poch sorts it out and we don't lose, we need confidence for our next match and from what I am reading we were outclassed, out played and that concerns me, friendly or not
It'sME
29/07/2017 23:52:00
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Absolute rubbish. Dembele, Alli, Winks and Dier doing his invisible man impression. Suddenly Walker looks world class so maybe Poch isn't a master improver of players after all. If anyone still thinks we need a massive injection of talent to stay competitive good luck. Tactically and physically outplayed. Defensive is awful. Lloris carrying on where he left off last season with his distribution. Lack of pace up front takes out the ability for the ball over the top. Just a shocking display. If we carry on like this second half I wonder how many USA fans we will have left. Yes it's pre-season but that's no excuse for that display.
Harry-Kari
29/07/2017 23:53:00
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It'sME, no one appears to be on their game today. We can't seem to get past the half way line. If we do, the next ball heads backwards. The way City are playing they seem to have 2 extra men. They just move the ball faster and more accurately. May be they'll ease off !
critical_spur
29/07/2017 23:54:00
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Critical - in one way we don't want them to ease of because we want to know how good they are going to be, so we know what and where we need to improve.
It'sME
29/07/2017 23:56:00
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Iy's a problem we had last season, i.e., when counter pressed, we struggled to play out of the back.

Harry-Kari, I would just blame Hugo for his poor distribution. I know one or of his 'directed' short-sh clearance were almost embarrassing, but there is no outlet for him. I truly believe pressing us in our own half is something oppo's will work on this season. Unless we get pace in our AM with some dribbling skills (N'Koudou), I think we may struggle. Well, hopefully, Poch and Levy will get moving on the transfer front. Any way, here we go...COYS!
critical_spur
30/07/2017 00:02:00
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Time to sub Dele....oh, hang on, .... don't think we have anyone on the bench to make a difference. May be Georgiu and put N'Koudou on the right.
critical_spur
30/07/2017 00:23:00
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So, their subs are Yaya, Sane, Aguero, blah, blah....and we have Jannsen and a kid< N'Koudou, Verts. Hopefully Daniel is watching. Surprised we're not 4-0 down... Jannsen for brace now!
critical_spur
30/07/2017 00:34:00
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Man City have a really strong squad when you look at their bench and the players that aren't even available. Should be about 10-0 man city
Guyver
30/07/2017 00:35:00
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Really can't read into this game .lt is all about getting the fitness levels up. Admittedly we are playing very very poor ... Vorm was flat footed. We just have no zip about us. GKN looks lively. Janssen looking sharp also.
E17YID
30/07/2017 00:37:00
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we are getting well beaten
spurman61
30/07/2017 00:42:00
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It sounds as though we have been rubbish. I expect Walker his rubbing hands together getting a move to City who seem to have assembled a very good squad. Our bench is weak again as it was last season, and other clubs have strtengthened. I have no problem with our first 11 or 12 players but beyond that I am concerned.
It'sME
30/07/2017 00:43:00
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Even if we score late goals, it will prove nothing as tghey have taken most of their bestter players off now. We were tested and it seems we failed the test.
It'sME
30/07/2017 00:44:00
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We have loads of youngsters on too, to be fair ME, Janssen was sublime there.
E17YID
30/07/2017 00:46:00
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E17YID - yeah but our best starters didn't cope with their best starters.
It'sME
30/07/2017 00:48:00
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humiliated, still don't need to buy???
123spurs
30/07/2017 00:51:00
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Friendly or not - this shows me that we could well become the laughing stock with this no transfers. It will only take a couple of injuries and we will struggle, looks like we may anyway now other clubs have strengthened
It'sME
30/07/2017 00:52:00
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Let's not read into this game, we gave up ... we won't be like this next season it's only a friendly.
E17YID
30/07/2017 00:53:00
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We can read something into this game. Our bench isn't good enough for a CL team, or even a EL team. And we lack pace, with Rose and Son injured and Walker gone.
Guyver
30/07/2017 00:53:00
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Actually, thats not based on this game, its based that on the last 2 seasons. This was only a friendly and Man City did destroy Real Madrid in their last game. Doubt they'd do that in a competitive fixture.
Guyver
30/07/2017 00:56:00
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Kane and Alli still on holiday. Should have been 6-0 to be honest. Get that bloody cheque book out.
spurman61
30/07/2017 00:57:00
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Well, imo, this was no ordinary friendly friendly. Both teams went all out, full pelt. Dele was non existent, Dier was dire, defence all over the shop, the ball barely crossed half way line in the 1st half. Could've been a cricket score. Hot knife through butter. Second half we made a bit of a game of it. N'Koudou made them think a little. I'd say this was a proper PL contest. WIP.
critical_spur
30/07/2017 00:58:00
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I am angry because we sold the best RB in the PL to our rivals and we haven't brought in any one for pre season. May be Walker is right, we are a 'nearly club' everytime we get close we fail to take the initiative. When Leciester won the title we ought to have brought in a couple of class platers to take us to next level. We manage 2nd and what have we done in the TW this season, nothing yet. I know we have a stadium, but our transfers have been woeful, 60m on 3 players that did nothing last season. I hope this opens Poch and Levys eyes and we get at least a couple of decent signings, but it will take them a few months to catch up with no pres season behind them. I hate losing especially to a team we sold a player to.
It'sME
30/07/2017 01:04:00
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Amazingly, our best players were the kids that came off the bench. GKN and Walker-Peters added some zip to our game but our defending was pathetic especially against runners from deep...they could have scored 6 or 7. Critical, I agree that Lloris does not have good options so he shouldn't take them. To beat the high-press he needs to kick it long and the defence needs to come out quickly instead of wandering around. On his displays so far, selling Dier to Utd. would be very good business. He just doesn't seem to have a quick thought or movement in his brain. Hopefully, Rose will be back before too long to add some attacking momentum on the left and GKN deserves a start in the absence of Son but if Wanyama isn't available we are going to struggle. Alli, Dier and Winks were just spectators for most of the game, and as last season we do not seem able to pass the ball under pressure. City instinctively knew where their teammates were in well rehearsed moves and we didn't. Not looking forward to this season without MF and AMF reinforcements.
Harry-Kari
30/07/2017 01:04:00
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love the comments lets not read into this , this is a wake up call............if we have this first 11 will we make the top 4, can we win a bloody trophy.....will we suffer in CL just like last season with a Europe league group and ppl pm here blamed wembley
123spurs
30/07/2017 01:04:00
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Newcastle destroyed of last time they were relegated and all we needed was draw to fin 2nd and we spursy it. dele ur optisum but deep down u no the real facts
123spurs
30/07/2017 01:12:00
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DA, I think Harry-K put it more accurately than me. City seemed well in groove and we were unable to string two passes together and ended up chasing shadows. In the last two friendlies we had no problem despite changing several players. Everyone will have their own opinions of this 'friendly' game, but imo, closer you get to the season, more meaningful these 'friendlies' become. Like I said at the outset, our key players started and played almost 75 mins. Similarly, City also approached it that way. Against Juventus we'll get our last chance to analyse how the best 11 are shaping up and how we are addressing 'lack of pace' and 'depth' issues. I think it would be a reasonable question for me ask....what did we learn from this game? Last two friendlies were about getting everyone involved and strictly a fitness/sharpness exercise....however, I expect things to start getting a little more serious. I am not too down about the scoreline nor the performance....but equally, I don't want to say, "it will be alright on the night".
critical_spur
30/07/2017 01:21:00
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this team was out first 11, so we aint gonna buy any players to displaces them we will buy squad players, but we need bigger more exp playes to take us to next level. but we wont do that.
123spurs
30/07/2017 01:35:00
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Under juande Ramos, we had an excellent pre season, beatimg Celtic 2-0, destroying Roma 5-0 and Dortmund 3-0 ect. We know what happened next.. That being said.. Wembley. We'll do well to challenge for a top 4 place imo. Thats a massive handicap as well as other squad related problems..
Guyver
30/07/2017 01:50:00
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You learn more by losing than winning.
E17YID
30/07/2017 03:00:00
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This wasn't a 'traditional' friendly, far from it. It was a competitive friendly. City did to us what they did to Madrid a few days ago. Quite simply, City were way better than us on the day and deserved the win. It's strange, but that happens a lot in football. When you look at the City squad, especially the ones on the bench, and consider what they cost and the wages they enjoy you have to wonder how many teams on the planet can compete with them financially. But, in football, you can buy the players but that doesn't guarantee success on the park. This game was a good reality check for the team and will strengthen the resolve of them all. Let's hope for a sweeter looking bench when the season starts. Anyway, we're still well in the mix.
Geofspurs
30/07/2017 03:31:00
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As Guyver said, blowing everyone away in preparation season has proven before to not be any indication of where we are at. Probably better to find out your weaknesses BEFORE the Season starts, so you don't drop points sorting it out... Playing PSG, City, Roma has been excellent preparation. We scored goals vs PSG, but did we really break them down? 2 screamers from outside the box, 1 penalty, 1 goal scored by charging down on their keeper and forcing mistake. 3 results like that would have be pleasant, but hiding things that we need to work on.
TonyRich
30/07/2017 08:47:00
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I was disappointed by that showing, even if it was just a pre season game. We looked 2nd best to City all over the park - we looked quite toothless when attacking and couldn't get into any sort of passing rhythm. City were sharper, faster and looked purposeful – whereas we looked a bit clueless and wanted too much time. I don't want to read too much into pre season games, but on that showing it seems we're going to struggle against a team that presses us and really know what to do with the ball. In terms of our “transfers,” the teams around us have strengthened, bringing in top tier players, whereas we haven't done anything and the best player we're being linked with is Barkley, who's a developing player rather than the finished article. I wouldn't be so worried about how we'll fair next season if we were playing at WHL, which we've turned into a fortress (albeit a little late), but we're at Wembley which will make things more difficult. I honestly don't expect us to go out there and spend £50-60m on a player as we have the stadium coming, but the fact is, how are we going to continually compete with the best if we can only buy 2nd or 3rd tier players, eventually we'll be phased out of the running by the big spenders. We have a good coach and a good young team, but after the first team we're pretty light on quality. Its a shame as I love to see young English players coming through the ranks, but the high pressure nature of the game demands you have the best players in order to win things. I like Trippier, but I don't think he's an upgrade on Walker (save his exceptional crossing) and atm I don't fully trust him in the RB position though I hope he proves me wrong. Dier seems more and more to be going backwards, I wouldn't really mind if he went to United if we can find cover for him, as he's so error prone and unfortunately his errors seem to lead to goals against. I think we need to strengthen our defence with a bit of pace, as we play a high line and are vulnerable on the counter. We need cover for Wanyama (is Dier good enough?) and a 2nd striker who can score when called upon. Perhaps also a winger as GK seems mercurial and not of the quality we need. We're fully stocked on AM's, so I don't really see the need for Barkley (is he an improvement on Son or Lamela?) In a way, I'm glad we were so exposed and well beaten by City, as it makes clear the areas where we need improvement – rather than having a great pre-season and collapsing during the league campaign - shades of Ramos. Anyway, that's my rant over lads, cheers
Fanman
30/07/2017 09:16:00
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Regarding no signings, perhaps it is better - and the plan all the long - to wait until this batch of friendly games are done before entering the transfer market. See how we do without Kyle, before signing anyone to replace - I.e see if needed or not. Our team worked very well last season, and therefore harder to spot glaring issues, or at least harder to prioritise them. We probably have a far better idea now than before the PSG game. I understand the fear that some have that we won't bolster squad, but I am sure that we will...
TonyRich
30/07/2017 09:30:00
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Yes the way we lost to Man City is a worry... Poch has said we are going into the transfer market, so it seems like he has had an assessment of what all the squad players can do and what is needed to strengthen. I also agree Wembley is a dangerous factor based on our recent history playing there (since 2008) So lets keep the faith and see what happens.
Block D Spurs
30/07/2017 10:12:00
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Just seen the 'highlights'.....We were battered, simple as that. Lots of work to do, that's why teams spend money.
pratts bottom
30/07/2017 11:07:00
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We battered city last season, despite them spending money....
TonyRich
30/07/2017 11:23:00
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DA, I never questioned your definition of pre-season friendlies and tbh, everything you said at 30/07/2017 11:43:00, I agree with. Each and and every team has it's own objectives for the friendlies. Seems with an expensively assembled unit at City (with huge depth), Pep is going about it differently and shows in their performances and results.

As for the youngsters making a difference late on, of course, it wasn't about the them being better players than the ones they subbed, imo, they brought something that our main squad lacks.....PACE. In our (presumably) starting 11, with Rose and Son missing, I can not name a single pacey player.

In the game last night, I thought we were trying to play our patient build-up game and got pressed off the field. IMO, Poch will have to change his 'let's wait and see' type of approach to the TW.
critical_spur
30/07/2017 12:15:00
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My worst fears have been realised in this match. Pochettino's game plan is based on pacy wing backs, a solid defence and midfield, Erickson pulling the strings in attacking midfield and our acclaimed attackers, Kane and working their magic upfont, supplemented by an on form Son when available. Take away some of these elements and we are just ordinary. This is what happened against City and in the other pre-season games to some extent. The pacy wing backs have gone for now, the defence and central midfield are slow-witted and lethargic, and Kane and Alli have been completely out of it. Yes, this was a pre-season game but City have stepped up to the mark pretty quickly. Unless and until these problems are addressed either tactically and/or by bringing in the right sort of cover for when our key players are not available or are underperforming, next season could be a huge let-down, particularly on the wide open spaces of Wembley.
Stan Rosenthal
30/07/2017 12:58:00
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Crikey. I find it odd that people feel that they can read so much into one game... Worse than that, one preseason game... No one likes being beat 3-0... I get that... But ALL teams get torn apart. Last season, Chelsea got ripped apart by Arsenal didn't they? Arsenal then went backwards, and Chelsea didn't look back... Let's not read too much into this performance. We lack pace - we knew that already. Son injured, Rose missing, Walker sold, N'Koudou still being eased in... Wanyama is so important, and he was missing too. There are other issues, and I am sure we will work at fixing them. City had a VERY disappointing season last time out, so they are gonna make sure they fix up. We are coming from a different place, and our priorities are different.
TonyRich
30/07/2017 13:39:00
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Just watched the game against ManC as I recorded it last night. Without doubt the worst game of football I have ever seen. We were flattered by the final score which could easily have been 8-0 pr 8-1 if I want to be generous. Cannot give one player a rating above 4. Woeful passing. No pressing. Unable to handle their press. Losing tempers. Showed no ability to play out from back. No answer for the through pass. I could go on and on. What this looked like is too much partying and too little commitment. A good time final few days of the tour. Whatever it is we were trying it didn't work and we should revert to the old style quickly. We have two weeks to get serious and show something against Juventus. Hoping MP is kicking ass today.
jvd
30/07/2017 13:39:00
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I recall at the start of last season Man City were unbeatable, no team could touch them, then they came to WHL on 2nd Oct, we stopped them in their tracks. What i'm saying is last night was preseason football, all about gaining fitness, Pep can get excited about it, it means nothing to me or the players i'd guess...
Thats Entertainment
30/07/2017 14:20:00
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Ok so having given my immediate "after seeing the match" reaction and having read MP's assessment and read a few of the most recent posts, I would like to add my thoughts. Maybe we were tired, it sure looked it. Probably was the reason why we lost our tempers so quickly. But what this game really showed was the difference in Squad depth between the two teams. When guys like Sane are coming in at number 7 substitution and we bring on boothe, you have to shake your head. You need to have at least 7 players above your first ten outfield who you can bring on who are pretty close to the #1 guys in quality. Right now we have Trippier, Toby, Verts, Rose, Wanyama, Dembele, Deli, Eriksen, Son and Kane as first 10. With Dier (head turned??), Lamela, Winks and possibly Wimmer as quality to rotate. Other than that we have a lot of "potential" or "projects". Hence why we need a player like Barkley and King and some speed on the right.

Otherwise, we really have to hope GKN can develop quickly. He's been quite good in the last two games, right and left, and hopefully will fight his way into a squad player. Janssen still only showing flashes and needs game time to develop, he's not going to get that with Kane playing 80 minutes a game. KWP is showing his talent but needs game time. If he gets in some full games, I think he will develop quickly into a quality player. Didn't get to see Geogiou in this game so really can't get a feel for what he can do from 20 minutes. have I forgotten someone? I just find we look a little thin even though we have only lost Walker from the team last season.
jvd
30/07/2017 15:26:00
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We still have the same problems we have had for quite some time. We have no back up striker to kane who can score regular, Janssen is ok but he is not PL top four standard. What hurts most is we paid 20m for him and 30m on Sissoko and if we had put that together we could have brought a top striker I am sure - it's our transfer policy that is bang average, below average.

We need pace in the team which in our system comes from our wing backs, what do we do sell one of them to a rival club - that bugs me, what was the club thinking. For all Walkers faults he was playing better than another RB in the PL and brought the threat of pace to opposition defenders. Trippier is NOT good enough, he is a good back up or good enough if we play a different way, but if we lose pace from our FB's then we need it in other areas to overlap, which means we are looking at two players, GK and Son. Gk hasn't really done much and has little PL experience and Son is doing alright, but we have seen playing son as a starter every week we see he is inconsistent, he is better coming on as a sub or starting some games. IMO I think we need a RB with pace, and KWP isn't the player ready for that. It makes it harder with Rose out as Davies is similar to Trippier but not as good at crossing, lacks pace and so neither side of the pitch do we have any pace. I think Rose is on dodgy ground, with his latest interview, and we don't know how long it will be beofe he is back to full match fitness, and whether he will want out like Walker. Whatever happens, we need experienced pace at the back, RB minimum.

Wimmer heart isn't in it, he looks unfit compared to others and is too slow so we need to consider another left sided CB if he goes. I don't think we have proper cover for Toby either, and his contract stalling cannot be helping - get it sorted.

I am beginning to get concerned about Dier, has his head been turned, maybe, but may be the real problem is all this swapping around, there is a time when a player needs stability, one position to focus on and I am beginning to think it is now. Maybe Poch needs to consider Dier's best role. If it's CB then he is back up for Toby or if its DM then him and Wanyama compete. If its in a back 3 then he concentrates on that postion only and we look at who will be his backup in a back 3. I just think its time Dier was given one position now to fully concentrate on, it may mean he doesn't play every week, then so be it, competition is healthy.

I also think we need a experienced creative midfielder to cover Eriksen, Winks is great and I expect him to patrol that midfield in years to come, but he isn't fully ready and he is playing deeper anyway. I also think Dele needs some competition, keep him on his toes, may be with Lamela coming back that will mix things up and push the likes of Eriksen, Dele. I also think Kane needs help and competition, he will know now Janssen isn't much competition, although I don't think Kane would drop into complacency because he is a natural leader, competitor and has huge desires to be captain and break all records his motivation to be on his toes and improve is good, but competition is still needed, to really push him, like Vorm keeps Lloris on his toes even though Lloris is similar to Kane highly motivated to improve, it's a psycholgical things, but equally its important the team know if anyone of these individuals get injured they have someone who will come in and keep the consitgency, in Kanes case, a striker who will come in and score, and Janssen as much as I like the guy, he doesn't bring that confidence, which basically by its nature means pressure is then put on other players to get goals.

I have not been convinced about any of our youngsters although I think Winks is guarnteed to get back to his best and kick on, but Onamah, GK, the others not ready, although I actually thought Georgiu was one of the better ones, he seemed to play without fear, wasn't conservative.

I personally think we are missing Sons pace, Walkers pace, and we miss Wanyama. I would like to see Dier as a DM now and him to compete with Wanyama, and bring in reinforcements in the back line, someone to keep Toby and Vertoghen on their toes.

I think pre season has been poor, and I NEVER like travelling around the world to play a PL team, it doesn't feel right, seems a waste of energy when you can play them in England. For me pre season is about fitness and money and generally trying to bring the squad together, but we as usual always end up having pre season without any or next to non new players because we buy so late int he window, so they miss pre season. Look at our track record of those who arrive late, how they fair in their first season. last season all three Janssen, Sissoko and GK poor season. I really wish we could change this and bring players in early for the start of pre season.
It'sME
30/07/2017 15:50:00
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jvd, agree we do look a little thin but all of August to bring in some players, problem is finding players of comparable quality to what we have in starting 11 those players will be expensive plus high wages. I think our biggest problem at the moment is we are punching above our weight until new stadium is up and running and our revenues increase.
Thats Entertainment
30/07/2017 15:59:00
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boy did we miss Wanyama
spurman61
30/07/2017 17:07:00
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Lucky I didnt see it, I dont pay too much attention to Pre season games, but to lose to our rivals in such a way cant be a good thing, or just something we put down to a pre season games. Im not pleased with the summer lack of business, but will just have to hope in the masterplan.
Ossie
31/07/2017 12:36:00
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