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It's All Gone Quiet Over Here

There are only two weeks to go until the transfer window closes and like most Spurs fans (Dele-Arri excluded), I am wondering what an earth is happening.

After a flurry of rumours in the last few days everything seems to have gone quiet. Is this going to be one of Levy's classic windows - 'I tried to get the deals done Poch but I just couldn't get them over the line' - or is there some real intent from Levy.

To sum up...

Sanchez - we haven't bid enough.

Diop - outbid by the financial muscle of Lyon Martial - surely not a serious bid.

Sessegnon - I can't believe we bid £25m.

Aurier currently banned from entering the country!

Barkley - now injured and could be out for around three months: Personally I would put in a low bid now. As his price will inevitably drop in January, there will be other suitors.

Balde - this one has now gone quiet.

The latest one is now Suarez from Barcelona.

Just how real are all these bids?

Several of the above have reportedly said that they want to play for Poch but for whatever reason they all seem to have stalled.

Where is Coopsie when we need him? I mean, there is no better man to separate the reality from the nonsense.

Does anyone know what is happening - as I have said there are only two weeks to go and we most certainly need reinforcements?

Are these bids real, does Levy really intend to spend big or are we being set up for one of those transfer windows that are likely to end in the usual disappointment?

COYS



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Writer:DoncasterHotspur
Date:Thursday August 17 2017
Time: 9:10AM

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Very little of what is reported is accurate. A lot of the time the writers just make it up, so for example every year there is a story that we are selling someone to United, only the name of the player changes. Personally I just switch off until the window closes then make a judgement on what has actually happened.
jod
17/08/2017 09:17:00
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Keep the faith Guys, - Our esteemed Leader is about to 'Pull The Trigger" All together now: "Shake your Hands, Shake your Breast's, Our Levy is the Best" :))
AllanDK
17/08/2017 09:29:00
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And on the last day of the window Levy pulls it all out of the bag and signs Aubameyang, VVD, Mbappe, and Diop. Spurs then go on to win the Champions League and Premier League!
spurticus87
17/08/2017 09:41:00
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Let's face it, this TW is another disaster. I'm glad we haven't signed a load of £8m nobody's from the French league as we usually do but to have started the season without strengthening is ridiculous. Jansen looked utter dog in preseason but we don't seem to be targeting any forwards. Whilst KWP was impressive against Newcastles non existent attack he would get his arse royally handed to him against the better players. Lot of work to do with him yet and no where near ready. If Sanchez is picks no1 target why not just pay the extra £8m and get the deal done??
hudderspur
17/08/2017 09:48:00
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The answer to your question Doncaster is absolutely nothing. An example is the "Sanchez saga", we have allegedly agreed terms with the player, were supposed to be announcing the deal every day for the last 3. jod is right, the media have a field day composing fake news re Spurs transfers every window, precisely due to the lack of real news. We remain as the only PL club not to make a signing. Is this because we already have the best 25 players in the league, or that we kid ourselves that we have adequate top quality seamless cover in every position in the team, we can cover every instance of injury, fatigue or form fluctuations and we will be able to make a meaningful challenge in the PL, FA Cup, League Cup, and of course the CL, is it our ambition to actually venture further than the group stages unlike last season when we threw all the cup comps except the FA cup to protect the 13/14 players who we rely on. Do we seriously consider that we have no need to improve at all. It could of course be that we are hell bent on building our property empire for ENIC's rather than THFC's benefit, and that providing we stay there or thereabouts, the step up to actually winning things is too expensive and unnecessary, providing we can continue to sell match tickets. It is fair to say that Levy has surpassed his own high standards in this window, with at least £50M coming in from the Walker sale and minor deals, and zero going out. Yes I know the window won't close until 31/08 but do we seriously think we will yet make the 2 or 3 signings that it is patently obvious that we need. Joe Lewis will be doing hand stands on his sun bed in the Bahamas with yet another TW profit in his back pocket, and Daniel will cop another fat bonus. Incidentally I see Levy says that "Deli Ali is not for sale for £150M, does he mean that, or is he trying to court an offer of £150M to test his claim.
Frank
17/08/2017 09:53:00
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I'd love to be on that transfer committee - Deli Arri. I'll think i'll write to Levy and apply. I certainly agree about the ITK's. There are only two of those - Levy and Poch. The rest are just winging it. Typical response from Frank and hard to disagree.
DoncasterHotspur
17/08/2017 09:58:00
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I feel like we do enquire about some very talented younger players, but when a team names their price, we refuse to pay it. Sometimes justified, but other times I wonder why we attempt to sign players that we know other top clubs are interested in, the price is naturally inflated. Sanchez, Keita Baldé, Cancelo, Pereira, Aurier, Schick, Sessegnon, Diop, even Barkley, these are all big talents that top sides are interested in. We simply will not get them cheap. I think we may sign Aurier. Sanchez, Barkley, Diop, Sessegnon, Schick, Keita Baldé....we could sign any of them if we paid anywhere near the price tag, really does depend on the players for me and how much they want to move. It's encouraging but at the same time extremely frustrating. I actually think we need 5 players, we have almost no depth. 5 players off that list would be perfect. But totally unrealistic unfortunately.
Hdjh93
17/08/2017 10:01:00
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It's the same smoke & mirrors from Levy that we get in every tranfer window.Will Daniel pull a rabbit out of his hat on the last day or a dead rat?I think we all know the answer to that. The ambitious clubs have already got the business done & integrated their new players into the squad,while Joe & Dan pretend to be interested in players so that we shut up until the deadline has passed.The only thing that motivates these men is money & with Wembley seats not selling well & sales of shirts dropping off through disillusionment of the fans they may yet come to regret their parsimony.
Greavesaboveall
17/08/2017 10:14:00
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I disagree! I don’t think it’s gone at all quiet over here. In fact I think VS has livened up quite a lot in the last few days. Good to see. Just an example on how we can interpret article ‘Titles’ differently and still run with the ball. Sorry! lol
Geofspurs
17/08/2017 10:34:00
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Greaves, it'd be interesting to see how much of Wembley is filled. Yeah, CL footy they were giving away the tickets with all sorts of deals. The prices for the PL games are no where near what one could pay for a CL game. Might just put paid to the notion that that we have a huge waiting list for season tickets if we struggle to fill or 3/4 Wembley. We need to create an atmosphere to make Wembley our 'home' but I am not convinced the pricing and attendance will help.
Critical_Spur
17/08/2017 10:36:00
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I'd love to see Sissoko run with the ball instead of tripping over it.
Greavesaboveall
17/08/2017 10:39:00
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Regardless of who we bring in now, the player won't be up and running until October at the earliest, so that has to be a negative. That aside, I would still be happy with the TW if we brought in one or 2 key additions (there is no need to sign 5 players). Even if we do sign Davinson Sanchez, that would likely trigger the exit of Wimmer, so that's a wash really and not an addition. We still have no cover for Eriksen, and I'm still reluctant to trust Janssen to score lots of goals when called upon. The depth at RB is a milder concern if MP is convinced that KWP step up (Sanchez, if bought, would help there and I still think Sissoko could get a shot there too).
BelgianSpur
17/08/2017 10:40:00
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As for the article, we've gone from 'calm'. to 'must buy' to nearing 'panic'. Expect another Sissoko type deal. At least preparing for disappointment leaves me a lot of leeway for optimism!
Critical_Spur
17/08/2017 10:40:00
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Dele - wasn't a dig at KWP. He did well against Newcastle and got the motm so no complaints. There were a number of times where he dropped out of position, got caught too many times in a 1v1 situation and I'm not saying he didn't deal with it but against a better player he may have been undone. Like I said it was a cracking debut but im just saying he's hardly up there with the walkers and alves just yet! Poch needs to work with him in an attacking capacity too as to be quite honest he offered little going forward. He was probably a bit nervous and I know I'm being a bit harsh on him.
hudderspur
17/08/2017 10:44:00
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I don't want to depress you anymore critical,but we could have 10 years of disappointment ahead of us trying to pay off the world's most expensive football palace.Shades of Ceaucescu's palace here.Well, we all know what happens to demagogues in the end.I'm just having a little laugh here.I don't really think Joe Lewis is a deranged dictator!
Greavesaboveall
17/08/2017 10:53:00
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We haven't had a better team since KB ruled The Lane, - and still you guys are overly depressed. Believe@COYS
AllanDK
17/08/2017 11:10:00
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Frank, you say it is 'patently obvious' where we need to cover, but I don't think it is as the players we are going for are covering our strength, not our weakness. Where is obvious in your opinion? If we go for Sanchez, it covers Jan/Toby but we have CCV and KW already and Dier. If we go for Aurier we have Kieran and KWP as cover. That is one which may strengthen us agreed. HK and right winger and centre mid are the ones in my opinion that needs better back up but we are not looking at players in those areas. Should we spend 35 mil per player as back up cover? I wouldn't.
CoysRus
17/08/2017 11:20:00
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AllanDK we're not really depressed mate,we just feel that this is possibly the best team we've had since the Double & if we add 2 or 3 class players we can seriously challenge the big money clubs. In life you musn't rest on your laurels or you are wearing them in the wrong place.We can do better if we have courage & take a calculated gamble by going into the red for one season & see how great this club ,that we love, could be. This is our moment to push on ,not stand still.
Greavesaboveall
17/08/2017 11:37:00
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Perhaps you guys have forgotten what we have achieved during the past two seasons? You want 'Household name' signings? If so why? Haven't Poch, which I believe to be the best Manager in the PL, proven what that it is possible to challenge at the very top of the PL with the squad already on book? That being said, we need bench cover which can challenge our first eleven. And I believe that before this window shuts down, - Levy will be bringing in Poch's choice of players which will be able to do so. Believe@COYS
AllanDK
17/08/2017 11:40:00
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Greaves .... Me too. But he has shown signs of improving and seems to be making a more determined effort.
Geofspurs
17/08/2017 11:42:00
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From years of following spurs, one thing seems clear. We have no doubt put in a handful of bids for players. None of them are enough. Levy will now sit until the last two or three days of the window and then maybe increase the bid (more likely he won't in the hope that the seller blinks first). Once he realises that he is not going to get the player that Poch wants he will either move to Plan B in the hope of a last minute deal or we won't get anyone. The majority of the fans will be left disappointed, Poch who has already said that we need reinforcements will be disappointed and Daniel Levy will be grinning all the way to the bank. We have seen this so many times before and I'll be amazed if it doesn't happen again.
DoncasterHotspur
17/08/2017 12:23:00
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What would be interesting to know is how much money the club saves employing these tactics, and if the amounts are even worth it. Imagine we inquire about a player and get quoted 40 million initially. Levy is only willing to pay 25, and puts in a low bid. Several weeks drag on, and as the end of the window approaches, both parties realise that they have to compromise to get the deal done. Imagine we end up paying 30 million for the player on deadline day, when an official bid of 35 million would probably have gotten the deal done in the first place. We save 5 million in the process, but we've lost 2 months and the player has missed all of preseason and the first 6/7 league games, only hitting match fitness in October. Is saving the 5 million really worth it for a club of our size? It seems to me that if we had the player up and running from the first game, all it would take is for that player to impact one or 2 of those games positively (maybe turning a draw or 2 into wins) to make the 5 million difference moot. The end question is: how much are the club saving and is it worth it? Would we not be better off putting reasonable offers in early, and getting our business done earlier?
BelgianSpur
17/08/2017 13:26:00
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Belgian, that's the sort of example I was referring to on another article y'day. We probably saved couple of mill for not seeing off Archway two years ago and now faced with escalating stadium costs.
Critical_Spur
17/08/2017 13:38:00
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BelgianSpur - or we end up with a last minute panic buy like Sissoko. how much is that going to cost us. How much did our inactivity in the Jan 2012 window (Saha & Nelson) cost us in lost champions League revenue). I see Wimmer is off to West Brom now with no replacement. Carroll, Bentaleb, Fazio, Walker and Wimmer. That is approximately £90m in and a significant saving in salaries. With our increased income and prior year profits, we should have at least £100m to spend. how much will we actually spend? No where near that I would suggest.
DoncasterHotspur
17/08/2017 13:58:00
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Davinson Sanchez is not cover for Toby or Verts. He is to be the right CB in a 3 CB formation. He is a formidable player, big, strong with great tackle ability and some speed. Will allow Dier to go into the DM position. Great purchase if we get him. I really am not sure what the plan is by Levy as I don't see him paying £35mm for a CB, especially one so young. So I'm afraid I'm on the side which votes that nothing is likely to take place. Don't see any need for Diop and I was hoping we would have gone in for King to back up Kane. Hut then why would he want to do that? I will wait quietly and see what happens since I can do nothing else.
jvd
17/08/2017 14:07:00
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Doncaster - I doubt Wimmer will be allowed to leave if no incoming player is on the way. However, even if Wimmer does leave and Sanchez arrives, that hardly counts as an upgrade. Wimmer has shown that he can be a solid CB in the PL; Sanchez has not. If we do end up buying Sanchez for a large fee, it will also make the decision of not pursuing someone like Michael Keane all the more puzzling. Some people laughed at the 25 million valuation, but Keane is an English international, he's homegrown, he has experience in the PL and familiarity with our other England players. Sanchez may be a talented footballer but he has none of those things and is more expensive. Ajax's EL campaign would have been a good experience, but if Janssen is anything to judge by, I question the strength of the Dutch league. A far riskier move for me.
BelgianSpur
17/08/2017 15:13:00
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Personally, Im very much looking forward to Sanchez, if we get him, a very good player, alot better than Wimmer imo. If we do get Martial which i doubt, then Ill be very pleased with the TW. The rest of the rumours, I don't bother getting myself worked up over nonsense, why people always choose to believe the negative reports, I've no idea. And if Coopsie was here we would have more even more nonsense rumours to get worked up about.
Ossie
17/08/2017 16:01:00
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To paraphrase Danny Rose, Sanchez definitely falls in the category of "we had to Google him to know who he was"! Maybe a good player but I can't have a definitive opinion just watching a couple of Youtube clips. Chiriches also looked good on video/paper.
BelgianSpur
17/08/2017 17:18:00
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The best business we have done is keeping a very talented 13 or so players together. Continuity is more important than anything and those players will get us through the start of our season. Sanchez, Aurier and Balde all look like real possibilities and if we sign those players and stopped there I would call it a very successful transfer window.
asherthesmasher
17/08/2017 18:26:00
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Personally I think Levy and Poch has a plan from fews ago, probably months. First get our players to sign new contracts, keep them together, which they did other than Toby. Then use pre season to take a look at youngsters, which they did. Thirdly, I think they feel they are adequate to start the season this year with the players we had due to a strong finish and momentum of a settled squad and didn't feel they had to barge into the transfer window immediately. They will have had their targets and if those atrgets were being sought by other clubs they may have been drawn into negotiating early, which they may have done with targets we have now missed because we were outbid, but if our targets are not being sought elsewhere, until now then there was probably no need to go straight in because Poch is happy this time round starting the season with the squad he has. The link with the Foryth lad earlier was probably one that was true due to him being a target and another club also starting bidding, but if say barkley is our target there is no need to bid until late due to him being in his last year and noone else has bid yet! It's frustrating but I am sure they had a plan and its probably going to plan, its just that as fans we don't like it.

Regarding KWP - people may shoot me down, but he is not ready to back up Trippier yet imo and while he did ok, he plays within himself it feels which is understandable, but we need more and better to stay competative. If Trippier was out long term I wouldn't be happy with him as back up yet, maybe Dier will be RB or may be Toby if we get this new player from Ajax, but no way would I feel confident having KWP play against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool or even some of the other teams who have pacey wingers like Zaha. For me if we don't get a experienced RB then Dier and/or Toby must take that spot in emergencies. I also very unsire on Janssen, I really hope Son gets up to speed and does better than last season because we will need him if we don't get a better striker in. I just hope Eriksen and Dele and Kane don't get injured either
It'sME
17/08/2017 18:49:00
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One thing for certain if we by chance do sign Sanchez we will still be short of cover, or selection options, for Eriksen, Ali, and Kane. But of course with those already sold we will return a healthy TW profit yet again. Will we be any stronger or better equipped as a squad, I doubt it but so what.
Frank
17/08/2017 18:53:00
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Davinson Sanchez does not start for Ajax today in the EL. Terms agreed ?
Arky
17/08/2017 20:01:00
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If as is just being reported we have signed Sanchez, and if he is as good as the videos suggest, then I think he will play in a back 3 with Toby and Jan, probably in the centre to provide much needed pace for the high line press.IMO, he is not a bench warmer. This will give us greater stability and confidence and allow the CM's more licence to move into attacking positions than they do currently and will be a big step forward and lessen concerns about the FB roles. As Frank says, we still need better players to cover up front and add some pace to our attacking options.
Harry-Kari
17/08/2017 20:14:00
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As Frank and I have said, still no alternative to Janssen. Also I doubt the Aurier rumours are true but if they are, I hope the deal doesn't go through. Many character flaws there and an ongoing investigation of domestic abuse preventing him to come to England. Not an MP player.
BelgianSpur
17/08/2017 20:49:00
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Harry-Kari, I think that you are absolutely spot on about Sanchez. I saw clips of him run down Rashford and Lingard in the EL final, shoulder charge Pogba of the ball and out jump Fellaini in that same match.
Arky
17/08/2017 21:24:00
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Sanchez looks like Ledley King on Youtube, if he's half the player, what a back 3 we'd have.
Guyver
17/08/2017 22:45:00
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Draxler next please.
vicspur
17/08/2017 22:54:00
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Pochetten is only going to take those he wants and at the price he feels is appropriate. Looks like Sanchez is done. So darned excited about the names that have, out of nowhere, come to the fore. Draxler. Suarez. Are you kidding me. Either, both would be phenomenal signings. Forget Barkley who is crocked until October if not later. Not worth a flyer IMO. In January 20M may well do it, though there will be more competition. Could Balde be annoyed enough to come to Spurs? I doubt it, but what a move that would be.

On the names listed above, and other persistent names, here's what I expect: Foyth, too much money for a lad who would, by and large, just be coming in to train with the lads. He would take a year to acclimatize and we have CCV who needs time. Sanchez, almost done. Really makes Wimmer, Foyth pointless. 15M for Wimmer means we are out only 13M at the outset. Good sell-on and it could be awesome as he just needs to play everyday. In two years Everton or Newcastle or West Ham will buy him for 30M. C'est Cool. Drop, see Foyth. Young, inexperienced. One for the future. As with Foyth, would do the deal if they were prepared to maybe see some cup action but principally train with the senior team and perhaps play in the U-23. Just not ready. Cannot command a starting place at Celta. Why would he at Spurs over Onomah, Winks and others. Play the kids. Sessegnon??? Would love to but the price will be steep. 30M and loan for the season. Does that even make sense when either Draxler or several other PSG players could probably be had to help them balance off FFPR. Rather give Meyer a shot. If one is to spend stupid money, go all in for Zaha. Ready now. Airier, very conflicted. Great talent and a beast of a player. Can play right across the back. Are the antics behind him? The last thing we need is a trouble maker. I love the idea of it. Price is right. Huge talent. But can the extra-curricular issues be contained? Potential huge risk/high reward/low price.

My ideal transfer window would be as follows: sell Wimmer, sell Sissoko. Buy Sanchez. Buy Drexler. Super dream, buy Balde which would mean Janssen is to be sold too. Buy Barkley in January. In September get Dele, Kane, Alderweirald, Erikssen, Pochettino and others on improved deals. I suspect someone will eventually go to Spain. At least, with these new players, we have some coverage. If Lloris, Alderweirald, Vertonghen, Davies, Trippier, Wanyama are all happy, we will be very strong at the back for the next three years anyway. Solid at the back means you are in every game. Keep filling the system with more young kids too. This could still go down as a great transfer window. COYS

peterballb
18/08/2017 03:21:00
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Sounds good, peterballb.
Geofspurs
18/08/2017 08:31:00
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Apparently, from what I can gather in the French press, the Draxler story has no legs to it. It all started with an article in French newspaper L'Equipe, looking at the possible futures of current attacking players at PSG after the arrival of Neymar. Draxler was quoted as being unhappy. His agent gave an interview this morning saying that the journalist had failed to correctly translate what Draxler had said in German. Apparently he's happy and not looking to move. In any case we couldn't/wouldn't pay his current salary at PSG.
BelgianSpur
18/08/2017 08:43:00
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I beg to differ BS, but we all have our opinions.
Ossie
18/08/2017 10:09:00
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Ossie - what do you beg to differ with? I'm not saying that Draxler wouldn't be a great signing - he absolutely would. From what I've read, there is no chance of it happening, sadly.
BelgianSpur
18/08/2017 10:29:00
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About Sanchez being a name you need to google......the Draxler rumour is pure nonsense to me, altho im hearing PSG needs to sell players.
Ossie
18/08/2017 14:56:00
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I am honestly surprised that you had heard of him. He's played in Holland for one year, and in Columbia before. I hardly watched any EL games after we got knocked out of it. He hardly falls in the Bonucci category of players.
BelgianSpur
18/08/2017 16:50:00
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