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It`s D-Day (Dortmund Day) at Wembley

It`s D-Day (Dortmund Day) at Wembley


Oyveh Maria says, 'It`s D-Day (Dortmund Day) at Wembley! Can we dig in and grind out a result?'

We are playing European home games at Wembley again and, having won only once in four European matches at our temporary home in 2016/17, this time we can`t afford to lose. Given the Dynamics of the group Real Madrid will be seen as a banker to get out of the Group Stage leaving only one place up for grabs to make the knock out stages. We took just three points from our three group home games in 2016/17, losing to Monaco (1-2) and Bayer Leverkusen (0-1) before a 3-1 win against CSKA Moskva. We were then held 2-2 by Gent in the UEFA Europa League. We have won only one of our last five European "home" fixtures. How does Poch get us out of this mind set?

Dortmund are top of the Bundesliga and have had some changes since last season, they go into this season with a new manager, Peter Bosz, who has shown he can put all Dortmund`s talent in positions to succeed, they have two wins from their first three Bundesliga matches, even if they have lost their star man Ousmane Dembele. In those three matches they`ve scored five goals and are yet to concede. At the start of their season they drew 2-2 with Bayern Munich in the German Supercup, won 0-3 away to Wolfsburg and then won 2-0 at home to Hertha Berlin but struggled to 0-0 away at Freiburg, despite Freiburg being down to 10 men. Dortmund are difficult to score against but they are carrying some injuries; Dortmund have seven injury problems ahead of the game. Five players have already been confirmed out of our Champions League game. Manager Petr Bosz is without Marco Reus (ankle ligament), Raphael Guerreiro (ankle), Andre Schürrle (muscular), Erik Durm (hip) and Sebastian Rode (ankle) and Marcel Schmelzer is definitely out. Their CB, Marc Batra, is also struggling. What we must not do is go into this game with the fear of losing. Dortmund maybe without Dembele, but they still have Pierre-Emerick Aubamyang who has managed six goals in his opening 5 games across all competitions this season, Julian Weigl, Papastathopoulos, and Christian Pulisic, the 18 year-old American, has talent and will give Davies problems.

Dortmund have become used to participating in the UEFA Champions League knockout rounds but they know with holders Real Madrid also in the Group they will need to get an away result against us. In Previous meetings Dortmund beat us when we met them in the 2015/16 UEFA Europa League round of 16, winning both legs 5-1 on aggregate. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Marco Reus (2) got the goals in Dortmund before Aubameyang struck twice more at White Hart Lane, Son scored the consolation. Have we stepped up a class since then? Are we a bit more savvy regarding how to play teams like Dortmund? When we lost 5-1 to Dortmund the team we put out was Lloris, Trippier, Alderweireld, Wimmer, Davies (Rose 13), Dier, Mason, Chadli, Alli (Carroll 70), Lamela (Onomah 74), Son. So you have to say, on paper, Poch has a better side than he had in season 2015/16. We don`t have Delle Alli for the next 3 CL games so who does Poch put in his place, Son? Or, drop Harry in behind Fernando Llorente? Will Poch play 3 at the back and rely on the speed of Aurier and Sánchez to get back if we play a high line? Was Dembele rested for Wednesday or will Sissoko start? Did Trippier going the distance on Saturday mean we can expect Poch to give Aurier a start?

Dortmund are in the group stage for the 12th time and a sixth in seven years, they have reached the knockout stage on their last four UEFA Champions League appearances. In 2016/17 they beat Benfica 4-1 on aggregate in the round of 16, subsequently losing 6-3 to Monaco over two legs (2-3 home, 1-3 away). On matchday one, 12 months ago, Dortmund triumphed 6-0 at Legia Warszawa, their biggest-ever European away success. They also won their next away game, at Sporting Clube de Portugal (2-1), but their run ended in their next three on the road, including defeats in the last two. Davinson Sánchez played under new Dortmund coach Peter Bosz at AFC Ajax in 2016/17. Son scored five times in his five matches against Dortmund with Hamburger SV and Leverkusen. Dortmund`s stats for the opening of this season read; Goals per game 2.5 Avg. Possession 63%, pass accuracy 82.5%, shots per game 15.5, tackles per game 21, dribbles per game 7.5. They are at their strongest attacking down the wing, but, stopping opponents creating chances is their Achilles heel. In fact, they are strong in every department, especially in finishing and protecting a lead. Their style of play is to keep the ball until they create some space as their good at spotting an opening.

This is going to be tactical battle for Poch, he has to make sure we high press them. Dortmund like to be on the ball they don`t like being pressed off the ball. This could be a lung busting game for Spurs and the concentration levels will have to be at their utmost. Whatever happens we must not let them score and us go behind because they are good at protecting a lead and we need a positive start to get the massive crowd going. Let`s hope we can turn it on this time!



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Writer:Oyveh Maria
Date:Tuesday September 12 2017
Time: 8:38AM

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Later in the competition it will get harder for English clubs as our tougher season begins to take its toll. At the moment its about whether you can adapt your game to playing a European team with a different style of football. So far we haven't been able to do that. In fact even in the premier league we struggle if we can't impose our own style on the game, luckily it doesn't happen that often. We'll see if we have learnt anything from last season. I just hope if we don't get through we finish last and avoid the Europa.
jod
12/09/2017 09:13:00
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As Oy Veh says...Poch will probably drop Harry into Ali's position Llorente as CF. RB is Aurier back 3 as at Everton, Moussa and Dier DFM... Eriksen, Sissoko leaves one place poch decision... Son off the bench 60 - 70 mins. give us some speed in attack. We do need to get the crosses in and score the goals. So it's time for our players to show they are professional and determined to start winning at Wembley.. not moaning its the club's fault. Mr Levy time to pay Toby his new contract, why are you messing about when you have upgraded Harry.. Dele etc. ?? COYS
Block D Spurs
12/09/2017 09:14:00
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We are in the group of death & few pundits expect us to get through.That could work in our favour ,to be underdogs we will work our socks off & the crowd will spur us on.I hope.
Greavesaboveall
12/09/2017 09:55:00
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Block, you playing Sissoko over Davies? I would agree with the rest. Lloris, Toby, Jan, Sanchez, Aurier (although Trips crosses would suit Llorente), Davies; Dier, Dembele; Eriksen, Kane, Llorente.
CoysRus
12/09/2017 10:06:00
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It's not 'D' day, it's 'S' day. 'S' 3 - 0 'D'!
Geofspurs
12/09/2017 10:23:00
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Well said Geof!! S day it is....3-0. COYS!
jvd
12/09/2017 11:23:00
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Having been beaten 5-1 over two legs by BD, the last time spurs played them in Europe i am hopping for a win but think it will be a draw at best. CL is a different level from the EPL and i am yet to be convinced that MP is tactically ready at cup level let alone CL level. It is a learning curve and MP is still learning it is no disgrace when not succeeding at CL level as it is very competitive lots of teams have tried for years and can't win a CL title. I am hoping Mp can get the team to the last 8.
palmover
12/09/2017 11:43:00
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Same team as Saturday for me, this is a very important game if we to get out of this group, we really need to win this one. Just hope we have found a way to play in Europe, as we've been pretty poor under Poch in Europe so far compared to how we perform in the league.
Ossie
12/09/2017 11:54:00
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CoysRus No Im saying basically the same team as sat. less Dele..plus Aurier. . sorry if not clear. Sissoko deserves another start to see if he can maintain and improve, as I thought he was quite good in AMF, just needs to get better on finishing chances and understanding how Eriksson Harry etc. play.
Block D Spurs
12/09/2017 13:33:00
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Our europe games have been a disaster for last 5 years.... It's time to stop the rot, and move forward. Poch has had 3 years as manager in europe games with us, so i expect him to show he has learned what to do in these games... tactical.... game plans A B and C... As i said before the players need to step up their efforts as well.
Block D Spurs
12/09/2017 13:41:00
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Block D Spurs - Its not really about tactical plans. Bob Paisley summed it up a long time ago when he was changing the way Liverpool had played under Shankly to make them more competitive in Europe. He simply said that when you've got the ball don't give it away because they won't give it back. That hasn't really changed over all the years since.
jod
12/09/2017 14:46:00
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to be fair there is probably never been a better time to play Dortmund as they are missing some key players especially in defense. As a result I expect them to sit in and give us 2/3rds of the pitch to play with. I don't expect them to take the game to us but rather try and get us on the counter. That may mean that Sissoko and Llorente could be useful weapons especially if we can get an aerial battle going in their box. It depends if Aurier is playing and how good a service he can provide and whether Davies will get the kind of room he was afforded by Everton on Saturday. If they sit in we will definitely have to get in behind them especially as we wont have the link up play between Alli and Eriksen and Kane to rely on. We have enough big men up front to cause them problems in the air if we can get the service in. I hope Aurier gets a start I just want to see how fast he is and, more importantly, how accurately he can deliver. Moussa may not start, his foot injury is still causing problems and with Wanyama still out it may be time to play the heavy horses down the middle and have Dier at the base of the spine with Sissoko Kane and Llorente up the middle with Eriksen playing the floating voter!
OyVeh Maria
12/09/2017 16:28:00
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I heard yesterday that had yet to concede a goal in the league so far.
Ossie
12/09/2017 16:33:00
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Ossie, there's always the 1st time! United hadn't conceded a goal in teh PL until, of all the teams, they played Stoke! What a way to set the tone if we beat them, remove the Wembley and CL hoodoo. The lads should be confident after last Saturday. Dele will be missed, but gives him time to simmer and reconsider his temperament as FIFA still looking in to the middle finger gesture.

As for the team, yes, same as Saturday, exceptions being, I'd like to see Llorente to replace Dele thus moving Kane deeper and Aurier for Tripp. COYS! 3-0 Spurs!
Critical_Spur
12/09/2017 17:24:00
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Same team as Saturday except Aurier for Tripps and Dembele for Alli. I hope Sissoko can build on his performance and think his pace and power will be useful if Dortmund defend deep. It will be interesting to see how Sanchez copes with Aubamyang who is a very good striker and scored easily against us last time we played them.
Harry-Kari
13/09/2017 08:19:00
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Have to play possession football tonight and be touch tight to them before they can get into our box. Wanyama would have been perfect for this type of game stronger than Dier will be, Dier has a blind spot sometimes where he does a square ball or a back pass that gets intercepted by the opposition. It only takes one lapse of concentration to undo all the good work that is happening up front. If you look at us as a team how many really are at the Champions League level or standard? Difficult one to answer, if you compare it to the team of last season not much by way of personnel has changed and we came up very short last season so it has to be be the way we play in the CL this season that has to change. A single bad match can destroy an entire campaign. If I quote the only man in the modern game to have played under four Champions League-winning managers, Xabi Alonso, was asked by old teammate Jamie Carragher what was so distinctive about each of them. The Bayern Munich midfielder, who can now add Pep Guardiola to a list of former bosses that includes Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti and Rafa Benitez, actually pointed to one shared quality. "[They're] comfortable playing with three systems. [Teams] need to adapt to each game, depending on the circumstances," said Alonso. And its that level of Savvy I hope Poch has got this time around. Going into the knock out stages has to be the first target and our style of play has to be geared toward that, once in the knock out then its a different mindset, a different approach, we need to show more tactical nous. Against Barca, Mourinho's Inter unleashed the ultimate counterattacking game in the first leg, which allowed his team to deploy the ultimate defensive game in the second. When you look at the list of Champions League winners since the 1999 expansion, there's a distinctive and defined split. Eight of the champions were also domestic champions those seasons; the other six are a series of teams who finished third or lower and well outside the title race. There's surprisingly no in-between, no second-place domestic finishes. It's almost as if a team has to be good enough to persevere on multiple fronts, or, in short, limited enough to mean they can save all their energies for European games. Can we win the trophy? probably not! can we get to the semi's ? going to be a big ask! can we get to the quarters? that has to be our aim! We'll learn a lot if we can get that far but we have to finish in the top four this season otherwise it will all have been a waste of time building on that experience if we cant use it again next season in our new stadium. Good luck tonight lads!
OyVeh Maria
13/09/2017 09:01:00
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Dembele picked up a knock at Everton in his 20 minute stint and may not be fully fit to make the start! Apparently!
OyVeh Maria
13/09/2017 11:50:00
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Whatever happens, at least I get to watch this one live .... even if is at 2:30am. That's better than waiting a day for the delayed viewing of PL games. I'm sure Poch and the lads know just what they need to do and they'll be up for this.
Geofspurs
13/09/2017 12:24:00
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With Dele out, Son has to start for me. Also makes sense to start Aurier given his CL experience. Llorente can come on as super sub later in the game.
Parklaneyido
13/09/2017 13:01:00
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We all seem agreed on team selection for tonight... I hope poch has his tactical Plans A B C as OyVeh mentioned is necessary in CL. I would say its necessary in PL as well !. Better not be heavy rain again tonight.. don't fancy getting soaked queuing up for wembley park station after the game.
Block D Spurs
13/09/2017 13:37:00
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Good to see the U19 are showing us how to beat Dortmund! 3-0 so far! COYS!
Critical_Spur
13/09/2017 15:23:00
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Quite enjoyed watching the 'future'...a bit like Geof!
Critical_Spur
13/09/2017 17:19:00
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Gutsy first half but we have seen this before. Poch still hasn't worked out how to deal with a team that presses hard and moves around constantly. I hope he has a better plan for the second half. Sanchez looking very uncertain. On the positive side, 2 well taken goals. Fingers crossed for second half.
Harry-Kari
13/09/2017 20:26:00
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Aurier looks some player. Walker who?
mattspurs1982
13/09/2017 21:09:00
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Verts a silly thing to do cud be very costly
123spurs
13/09/2017 21:30:00
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Well done lads. Great result. Much better second half but obviously tactical work still to be done to cope with the hard press. Dortmund obviously tired in the second half and we should have scored two more goals at least. Son and Kane were excellent and finally our MFs got some grip and started to push them back. Aurier was good too.
Harry-Kari
13/09/2017 21:38:00
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wow, can't believe we hung on. That was a much better second half and all in all a less naive performance in europe where with a bit of luck we ended up beating the better team. The good news is we have the three points, have the wembley hoodoo off our back in style and I reckon this dortmund team could take some points of real madrid. They really are good and with a few key players missing like reus I am glad to have this game out the way. Can't imagine what would have been had their perfectly good goal actually count. The ref was all over the place really, lots of decisions wrong. Vert's card was harsh but he gave the ref a decision to make. At least he only misses Cyprus. Aurier and Sanchez look like great buys though!
Guernman
13/09/2017 21:42:00
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Great win... People asked for tactics then complain bvb were the better side... They weren't.... We let them have the ball in two thirds of the pitch and played on the counter...up the spurs..coys
62rovinella
13/09/2017 22:08:00
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Absolutely thrilled with the result, against what I thought was very very good side. In the 1st half, it was so frustrating as we couldn't string two passes together, but not half took our chances well. Ref and the linesmen were poor and whilst Jan's sending off was harsh, he did make a meal of trying to be clever with the ball, rather than just boot it any where. As they say, goals win games and we put our vital chances away. I think Poch got the tactics right in the 2nd half, Yes, the two new boys will be a great fit in our team and hopefully Llorente will see more game time in the upcoming fixtures. Absolutely delighted. COYS!
Critical_Spur
13/09/2017 22:12:00
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IMO, Trppier would've struggled against BD.
Critical_Spur
13/09/2017 22:15:00
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62rovinella thanks for understanding the game plan. Poch has learnt a thing or two. Everyone, including our own illustrious Oy Veh, expected us to play possession football the way we normally do. Porch took a page out of Ranieri's book and played a defensive counter attacking game and did it very well. Reminded me also of Mourinho's style. I personally don't like it but I like winning. Ref was inconsistent. We should have scored 6 they should have scored 4 or 5.
jvd
14/09/2017 00:01:00
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Vert's sending off was unfortunate but I thought it was a reasonable response as he did swing his arm more than he needed to. Vert Also seemed to switch places with Davies in the final 10 minutes. Hmmm. Decent game from Aurier and also Sanchez. We will have a remarkable defense this season.
jvd
14/09/2017 00:13:00
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I watched the replay, and I can't believe how well we did. Yes BD had the lions share at times, however, we showed why we are slowly becoming a solid force. 3 points in the bag, aurier looks great. Crossed the ball , pace , able to defend. And we had no Alli etc. awesome result if us and RM win the next march we will have a 6 point lead over BD.
E17YID
14/09/2017 00:56:00
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Echoing what 62rovinella and JVD had written, I thought we controlled the game and intentionally allowed Dortmund to have the lion's share of possession while we hit on the counter. A couple of scary moments but this is expected. I think Poch is learning well on how to play in CL.
taniban
14/09/2017 02:50:00
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have spurs changed the approach to Wembley? treating it like away games ... they seemed to soak up the pressure and well, I dont think BD were in control, I feel we let them dictate to our tune, we were clinical and professional.
E17YID
14/09/2017 06:04:00
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Perspective is an amazing thing. Taking nothing away from a great result, when we played Chelsea modt no here said we were the better team because we dominated possession and battered them. Suggestions that actually Chelsea controlled the game were dismissed. Ho Hum.
Harry-Kari
14/09/2017 08:16:00
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Great win. I’m not sure if we let them have the ball or they just took it. They played the way we usually do in the first half. It was a bit strange to see. Either way, it doesn’t matter now. Four great goals can’t be bad .... especially when three of them were ours. Who said we couldn’t score from fast breaks. I was on edge throughout. We were hard pressed in the first half and lacking in midfield but defended splendidly. In the second half we came into the game more and seemed the fitter side. The new boys did well and must be happy with their performance and the result. Three points in the bag and if we beat the Cypriots twice and get something from the return at Dortmund, we should progress to the knockout rounds. I thought the attendance would have been higher? This win should set us up nicely for 6 PL points against the Swans and WHU ... and maybe a top 3 spot! Looking good.
Geofspurs
14/09/2017 09:20:00
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The attendance surprised me too Geoff. It's being reported as 67,343. I saw a few empty seats in the lower stands but surely not 20,000 under capacity? In any event I was still very surprised we still didn't have a capacity crowd for what is one of the best teams in Europe, particularly when you consider last season we sold out for the Europa games. Is it something to do with having to be registered a member?
Gary Onedaysoon
14/09/2017 09:43:00
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Gar ... Whatever the reason was there should be a much bigger attendance for the next CL game.
Geofspurs
14/09/2017 09:53:00
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Anything around 60k is brilliant attendance, remember this is only a temprary home and as such we don't really want it to be a bigger and better home than our new build. I am pleased to see the 60k plus for Burnley and probably stoke, WHL2 will be easier to get to so expect sell outs there every week, no emptycrate seats.
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T.H.F.Chris
14/09/2017 10:08:00
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Harry-Kari, Chelsea created 1 maybe 2 good chances against us. We created several great chances against Dortmund, I think thats a significant difference. Chelsea were simply clinical at Wembley, I don't think we were as clinical last night.
Guyver
14/09/2017 10:23:00
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Gary ... Here's the 'y'!
Geofspurs
14/09/2017 10:31:00
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Great performance by the lads last night. A full strength Dortmund may have been able to turn that possession into more goals. But I was really impressed by Aurier, never seen him play before and he looked the business. Composed and assured, looked like he had an eye for a pass and has a trick or two. COYS
LongTimeSpursFan64
14/09/2017 11:06:00
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Scoring 3 and winning by 2 clear goals could be really important if we're tied with with Dortmund at the end of the group, as the head-to-head will count.
Gary Onedaysoon
14/09/2017 11:27:00
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Hari-Kari I didn't suggest we controlled the game but what we did was certainly the game plan. After their goal I was screaming "get the ball" and I couldn't understand why we were not pressing and hustling to the ball. Then as I paid attention I began to notice the two banks of 4 defending and moving in unison as the ball was played side to side by Dortmund. I watched it for a couple of minutes and then it really hit me, crap, we are playing a Tony Pulis game, then I said this is what Ranieri did during the Championship season and last year in the CL or Mourinho does when he is playing a team which can be better than his. At first I was upset and to be honest I was extremely stressed but as it wore on I calmed down a bit because we were handling their attack. Had we employed our normal game plan which is a very attacking style, Aubermyang would have carved us open on a few occasions and we would probably lost the game. In the end I would say they controlled the game but we managed it. I will add, it is remarkable that the team was able to so easily adopt that defensive formation with the ease which we apparently did. Kudos to Poch and his coaches.
jvd
14/09/2017 11:42:00
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Jvd.. what I noticed at the game... we did have 5 man back line for most of their attacks, mousa Dier in front.. erikson helping as well. Even Harry a few times and everyone back for corners freekicks. What i did see their goalie well outside his area, centre circle a few times. Poch must have seen this and noted for a long bal over the top in return game? So we did indeed have a plan B to deal with their fast attacks, which bodes well for our season in PL games as well when the likes of Liverpool pressure us... COYS
Block D Spurs
14/09/2017 20:42:00
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That Sanchez is something else. The best CB prospect I have ever seen. He will be the best CB in world football sooner rather than later.
Real Deal
14/09/2017 21:41:00
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Block D their GK was seen several times about 5 yards short of the half way line. I kept saying, wow if they lose the ball and someone (like Toby) was noticing that, they would surely have a go. Real Deal I concur on the Sanchez comment. He has slotted in extremely well from game 1. He reminds me a lot of Ledley King and if he can be as good over the season, then our defense is really set to be the best in the league. I was amazed we paid that amount for a CB. Obviously Poch knew what he was buying.
jvd
15/09/2017 11:19:00
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early days, but Sanchez appears to be an upgrade on Dier at the back
Guyver
15/09/2017 14:04:00
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Guyver, I agree we created more chances against Dortmund than Chelsea did against us, but except for the two exceptional strikes in the first half, all the other chances were in the second half when they were obviously tired and we gained some MF control. If, as JVD suggests that was the game plan then I think that Poch deserves congratulations but I'm not sure I was comfortable with our first half display. It was reminiscent of our games against Liverpool and City (at their place) last season. I think we were forced to defend and at times it looked as if Dortmund would score 3 or 4 goals. They pushed forward players into the spaces between our 3 CB's and managed several times to play the ball through for attacking opportunities. I like Sanchez but I felt he was caught out 2 or 3 times when Toby and Verts bailed him out, but I guess that is football and i have to remember he is only 21, playing in another foreign country and a different level of competition. I expect him to improve a great deal as the season progresses. My only concern from the game is that, IMO, we couldn't handle the high press, high tempo game that Dortmund had in the first half, and if they had taken all their chances it would have been game over. We may have had (and I agree JVD we did have) 4 across the middle and 5 at the back for much of the half but couldn't get hold of the ball and conceded possession immediately we had it. I thought Dembele was by-passed for much of the game and was unable to influence anything in that first half. Having said all that, it was a great result, two brilliant solo efforts and one team goal lifted everyone's spirits but Poch has to find a system to counter the high press and impose our game on the pressers...IMO of course.
Harry-Kari
15/09/2017 16:03:00
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Harry-Kari, im not surprised Dortmund ran out of steam.. You cannot sustain that level of intensity and full press, for 90 minutes. If a runner sprints the first 200 metres in a marathon before tiring, and losing to another runner who ran a more reasonable pace, we wouldn't say the sensible runner only won the race because the first runner tired out.. The winner had better stamina management. They gambled and it backfired. We probably could have dealt with their press better and there are things Dortmund could have done better as well (same as the Chelsea game) but at the end of the day, we beat a top European team in our first CL game of the season, in what is still a neutral stadium. Nnothing to be overly concerned about imo.
Guyver
15/09/2017 17:08:00
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Guyver, I guess we'll find out when we play Liverpool and City. As I said I'm not knocking the win.
Harry-Kari
16/09/2017 11:36:00
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Harry-Kari, you'll find that Man City and Liverpool, will be tough games because they are really good teams and we aren't the best team in the world yet. We aren't going to steamroll everyone we play, you have to be realistic and expect difficult moments in games where the team have to battle, just to stay in the game. Likewise, other good teams will have difficult moments against us. Thats football for you.
Guyver
16/09/2017 14:36:00
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