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VS Preview: Spurs v Barnsley

There are no surprises in football...only disappointments!

So! Given what happened against Burnley and now Swansea are we still missing a player with different types of skills to the one's we have? Enter the chance for Tashan Oakley Booth and George N`Koudou but, no Marcus Edwards, which is a shame, because it would be good to see how far he has developed since his cameo appearance against Gillingham last season. We have now gone 3 league home games in a row without a win for the first time since December 2013. Spurs have now failed to score a first-half goal in all three of our home league games this season. What does the Swansea result mean; Every time a team wants to avoid defeat they turn up at Wembley with two banks of 4 playing three centre backs and sit on the ropes just taking the punches until we run out of ideas and have to rely on penalties? Is this how all our games at Wembley are going to go with the lower placed teams in the league? Teams prepared to just sit back and wait for the counter? Are we playing the kind of football that suits teams who are able to soak up the pressure? Would the signing of someone like Ross Berkley make any difference to games like Swansea and Burnley?

Supporters pay a lot of money to come and see a football game and to have one team rock up just to park the bus isn't fair on the punters who came to see a game of football. That said we need to be able to deal with teams that turn up and play that way. The failure to unlock a defence that play with 3 centre backs or two close banks of four has to be addressed. If you have to rely on penalties to win a game that's not good enough. You could not see a Manchester City or a Chelsea being locked out of a game with a team like Swansea. Sometimes we don't seem to display the skill sets up front associated with close quarter passing, this is despite the proud boast by our front 3 that they like to pass 'around corners'. We recorded 75% possession against Swansea, our highest in a single Premier League match since Stats started being recorded in 2003-04 with a 90% pass accuracy but what is the point of all that possession if you cannot convert it into a goal. The only good news coming out of the Swansea game was it was the first clean sheet at Wembley since the 2009 League Cup final against Manchester United, we have conceded in our previous 11 matches. We also failed to beat a club record of scoring in 30 successive Premier League games at home.

With the West Ham match coming up who will Poch pick for this one? What is the game plan against yo-yo Barnsley whose start to their season in The Championship has been less than convincing 7 points from 7 games? Are they going to turn up and do a Burnley or a Swansea? Who will Poch play? Could we see the first pairing of Juan Foyth and Davinson Sanchez? Will Poch play a 4-4-2 to give time for Harry Winks and Georges Kevin N`Koudou, who should now be fit. Will it be Vorm or Gazzaniga in goal and will Llorente get his first full game? Will Trippier play or will Kyle Walker Peters be a start? Could it be a back three of Foyth Sanchez and KWP or, if Davies is fit, maybe a back four with Davies. Who do you think will play and who do you think should play? More importantly how should we play teams that just want to defend against us? We have the perfect opportunity today to find out as Barnsley will no doubt treat this game as an early Cup Final at Wembley.

Poch has said this competition is not a priority but let's just hope Spurs play at a higher tempo this time and try running at defences a bit more rather than playing square ball after square ball and lumping predictable crosses in. Maybe it`s time to bring teams on to us and hit them on the counter! Poch took some stick over the weekend for resting Ben Davies and not playing Moussa. You have to say that, in the context of the game, perhaps Moussa would have been the key to unlocking the Swansea defence but Poch is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't at the moment. Whichever way we cut it Wembley is seen as a monkey on our back and, at the moment, our away form is better than our home form! Even if we are playing well at home we are still not getting the results so the Barnsley game will be a good chance to see how the younger players perform and to see players like N'Koudou and Llorente and see whether they and Son could terrorise defences from wide positions and through the middle. Ryan Hedges will be a late pick after picking up a knock to his knee in Saturday's 3-0 defeat to Aston Villa and is a concern. Their boss Paul Heckingbottom, is still without Lloyd Isgrove (foot) and Andy Yiadom. This will be the second time we have met Barnsley in this competition we won the last match winning both legs on the way to the semi-final in the second round in 1986-87 (3-2 away and 5-3 at home). In fact Barnsley have won only one of their 16 previous away games against Spurs in all competitions (D2 L13) Meanwhile, Barnsley have lost 13 of their last 15 League Cup games against Premier League opponents.

I think we all want to see some running football getting in behind the Barnsley defence and seeing how some of our fringe players are coming on. Let`s hope we get some entertainment!

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Writer:OyVeh Maria
Date:Monday September 18 2017
Time: 6:30PM


Poch is suggesting that EFL is not a priority for Spurs. Which means we should see mainly squad players and youngsters on the field.
18/09/2017 18:38:00
I just want to see some of the fringe players show they have something different to offer and seriously challenge the 'cert' starters in the PL. Whoever plays (mostly fringe/squad players I guess) need to put in a shift and win, else they'll get even less of an opp during the rest of the season. Fergie and Wenger generally play(ed) their peripheral players in this comp to see how far they can go. If semi final, then perhaps introduce the 'big boys' in the late stages. Just as importantly, I hope to see Poch a little more flexible with tactics. Sorry Geof, I predict 0-0!..... Llorente is our new penalty taker, so 3-0 on penalties!
18/09/2017 22:25:00
off topic... that fire near the stadium looks still to be raging...see cam 5 on stadium tv.
18/09/2017 23:49:00
Apparently the Celco builders warehouse Critical, doesn't look good for the area but fortunately far enough not to affect the stadium build.
18/09/2017 23:57:00
Spurs 3 - 0 Barnsley. Critical .... penalties will do.
19/09/2017 00:22:00
Whatever the score I just want to see hunger for goals from whoever plays. 5-0 would be a decent score.
19/09/2017 00:50:00
I find Poch's comments to be incredibly irresponsible. He doesn't give a darn. Why should the players or the fans? Means nothing. Not a priority. Let's prioritize the two competitions we have the least likelihood of winning. Reminiscent of Harry. Have a fanbase that wants titles but disregard the ones we have the greatest chances of winning. Just insane. Time for the fans to decide what they want and to start demanding it. To listen to fans complain we don't win anything and then to support a manager who cannot be bothered is so typically Spurs. No realism at all. Aim for the stars and be *****ed that you only ever reach the moon. We saw how that list of priorities worked out so well last season. Crashed and burned out of CL, disgrace in the "waste of time" Europa, lost to the first PL teams we met in both the League Cup and the FA Cup. Ramos, who took all cups seriously, was the last to win anything at Spurs. Very disappointed in the Pochettino comments. Only thing worse is watching him continue to play the lead-footed bull in a china shop Sissoko to the detriment of our flow and incisiveness. Wembley hoodoo? Hardly. Poor player decisions. I will not be surprised if we are done with the League Cup tomorrow.
19/09/2017 03:17:00
Difficult for Poch given the fragile nature of our so-called 1st eleven. This is the approach that big clubs take but unfortunately, based upon successes, we are not in that category yet. Given our squad, he has to prioritise and with the financial situation we have our EPL finishing position is probably his main concern, followed by some form of progress in the CL in order to raise our commercial profile and encourage better players to join the club. Tough choices.
19/09/2017 06:50:00
Poch has to try and win a cup, as this will be a boost to keeping our players and giving fans some success. As has been said on here in VS many times we need silverware... While that statement is true, the reason we have not is 80% players and 20% manager, as players have not performed when it matters..last year. Chelsea semi final, and 2nd in league, Euro. League, then Chelsea and Leicester PL year before... So its time we took all competitions seriously until we win 2 regularly in a season...
Block D Spurs
19/09/2017 08:10:00
Vorm Foyth, Dier, Sanchez Walker-Peters, Wanyama, Winks, Trippier N'Koudou, Dele, Oakley-Booths Llorente Tottenham win 6-0
19/09/2017 09:44:00

“The project here at Tottenham is to try to win the Premier League or the Champions League,” Pochettino said. “For me, that is the two big trophies. OK, I would love to win the Carabao Cup or the FA Cup for our fans.

“But Tottenham must build a project with the possibility to fight for Champions League or Premier League. Sorry, first of all the Premier League and then the Champions League. If we are going to try to win Carabao Cup or FA Cup, and forget the Premier League or Champions, it's a big mistake.

Hot Tottingham
19/09/2017 11:08:00
(" OK, I would love to win the Carabao Cup or the FA Cup for our fans.")
Hot Tottingham
19/09/2017 11:12:00
Don't know what all the fuss is. For the last few years most fans have been calling for our coaches to forget the league cup and focus on getting into the top 4. Now we are there and the manager suggests that we put our emphasis on PL and CL, now we just want to win any trophy? I don't remember him saying, hey we are going out to lose the Carabao Cup! No but we won't play our strongest team because it isn't needed we will play one or two youngsters and the squad players who don't get enough time to sharpen their skills in the big games. It's what all of the top6 do. Why should it be different for us. I know a few on here that if he played Kane and he got injured, Poch would be crucified.
19/09/2017 11:25:00
peterballb, sounds like you read the headlines, but not the quotes.
19/09/2017 11:54:00
lol Peterballb, Im getting jokes on here 2day.
19/09/2017 12:02:00
Against a team like Barnsley we can afford to give a game to some of the squad players to see whether they can make it into the first team. I would particularly like N'koudou to show what he can do as I think we really need his pace and trickery up front.
Stan Rosenthal
19/09/2017 12:26:00
Forth plays. From start coys
19/09/2017 18:48:00
Spot on JVD - I remember that debate well - it went on and on - short memories!
19/09/2017 19:15:00
Surprised at how strong our 1st eleven is and that the remainder of our first team are on the bench. This is In complete contrast to the weakened teams Poch picked in the previous two seasons against Liverpool and Arsenal. Even stranger in light of his comments about the competition recently.
Gary Onedaysoon
19/09/2017 19:18:00
According to Talksport this is our confirmed 11 - Poch certainly not disrespecting the cup if this is indeed the Tottenham Hotspur XI: Vorm, Trippier, Foyth, Vertonghen, Walker-Peters, Dembele, Winks, Sissoko, Dele, Son, Llorente
19/09/2017 19:26:00
Any links tv or (radio)?
19/09/2017 19:54:00
Talksport for radio commentary wentworth, I can't find a stream myself.
19/09/2017 20:12:00
Same old, same old at Wembley 0-0 HT. Looks like the big boys will have to come on but unless we have a bit of pace and guile up front I 'm afraid it will be the same old result.
Stan Rosenthal
19/09/2017 20:40:00
Sounds dull, feels like we are still not clicking or playing with our heads. Llorente needs crosses, are we putting enough quality crosses in? Dele apparently wasted possession, I am starting to wonder whether his head is somehwere else or is it a matter of a period of slum after a couple of very fast rise, it happens and now his natural abilty has played itself out the hard work comes now to press on and reach his potential and that takes real committment and desire and motivation otherwise he could stagnate, this is the problem when someone finds the game easy and rises quickly. he needs competition and benched, if we can to get him motivated to fight for his place.

I wonder whether we need to bring in a couple of players to push the likes of Eriksen, although not playing tonight, but also Dele as I said and also a player that can create and shoot from distance, maybe Barkley! We will have to be careful, one chance and we could go behind and find it hard to get back into the game, we need to score and maybe bring on the more senior players, and I really cannot see what Sissoko is going to do long term, can't score to save his life.
19/09/2017 20:47:00
Even if we win the pointless FA or EFL cup/s it would instil a winning feeling and attitude in the squad which needs to feel like winners, so why not do what maureen did and make a priority of the so called lesser cups that we actually have a bloody good chance of winning instead of "resting" players for them and prioritising competitions we have virtually no chance of winning. That just maintains a losing mentality and we will lose more players to our detriment. Then we won't be able to get the players we are thinking of targeting now.
19/09/2017 21:37:00
Well Dele must have heard me, he went on to score, so lets hope he takes confidence from that goal and presses on and improves his performances. I think Son sounded like the best player, having a few shots saved or missed but getting into goal scoring chances, he will become more clinical with a few more games, he missed pre season. Llorente starved of service, want score if he doesn't get service, something the team are going to have to work on when he plays.

Well Toby, Dier, Eriksen and Kane got rest, so they can go and play next two games, and Dele will get his rest after the nect PL game when we play CL fixture and so will Verts. Aurier or Trippier for PL match? and hopefully Davies has had his rest and is fit again for the next two? Sounded like KWP and Foyth saw a lot of the ball, both played ninety minutes so that will be good for them, and GK got minutes under his belt and Winks, lets hope he is getting over his painful ankle. Now all we need is Rose, lamela back and may be a couple of signings in january.
19/09/2017 21:58:00
Pochettino has always been consistent in this respect. He says we should be targeting the highest prizes but he also doesn't throw games in any competition. He wants to win every game, he just insists that the club start thinking like a big club. I think it is admirable. He played a team that should have easily won tonight, he has honed a great squad and every player is an important cog. It was the same with the question of finishing above Arsenal. Two seasons ago fans were furious when Poch said it didn't matter about finishing above Arsenal, it matters to aim for higher than that. There was fury that we so easily capitulated against Newcastle to let Arsenal sneak above us, and these comments from Poch were viewed as out of touch with the fans. But the point is, he was right, and what's more he couldn't have been angrier about the Newcastle result but for different reasons. He thinks like a winner, and that's why the following season he did become the first manager to finish ahead of Wenger. Just compare his mentality to good old Harry Redknapp. Redknapp would have played a much weaker team today because he really did throw cup games - Poch has never fielded a team that shouldn't win in any competition I can remember. Redknapp always talked about keeping expectations down, finishing top 4 being the dream and mostly an unrealistic one. He divided the squad and threw must cup games. Poch talks like a winner, he insists that we aim for the top, but he never disrespects any competition and always plays strong teams. His comments can sometimes be taken out of context and misconstrued, but he has a winner's attititude, and it is no coincidence that he has been our most successful manager in years
19/09/2017 22:22:00
Well, that was a shock result, the quote has been taken out of context. All he is merely, saying is a club like Tottenham need to to look higher than just a cup ... we need to aim for titles ie pl.
19/09/2017 22:25:00
If Arsenal, City, and United get knocked out of the League Cup today we could win it! Don’t you just love the word ‘if’!
19/09/2017 23:57:00
The turn out for the game is also a clear indication from the fans how highly we value the cup. If we don't (and we shouldn't) then why should Poch?
20/09/2017 07:59:00
Thank you Guernman!!!!!
20/09/2017 08:01:00
This result should not fool us. We could have well lost to a team near the bottom of the Championship league if they had taken clear chances. Alli redeemed himself only by an easy tap in after screwing up many moves. Lessons must be learned if we are to go on to better things. One of them is to find a decent playmaker to back up Erickson if we are to capitalise on our improved strikers.
Stan Rosenthal
20/09/2017 21:35:00
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