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Spurs fans Losing Belief in Pochettino.

Spurs fans Losing Belief in Pochettino.

Vital Spurs fans Losing Belief in Pochettino.

Vital Spurs have nearly 15,000 members, in our latest poll for the first time we have seen Poch's unofficial approval rating drop from around 95% to close to 70% in one of our biggest poll responses ever;

The Poll asked:

Do you still have faith that Poch can keep us on a progressive path?

Yes 69%
No 25%
Have no idea! 6%


You could infer or draw differing conclusions to this poll result; not least of which is that some of our fans are 'fairweather' or simply aren't taking into account the difficulties he's been facing.

What seems to have driven sentiment over the edge is of all people, Wenger's latest comments, which are a tremendous and one could even say vicious put down of Poch and his thinking, Wenger might as well have called him a 'loser' what Wenger actually said:
Wenger was quoted by
the Express
as saying: 'I am not Pochettino, I am Arsene Wenger'.

'I am here to fight as long as I can, as long as mathematically it's possible you have to fight. You cannot give any other message out.
'The game today (v United) has to make us angry and even more determined.'

It's clear that Wenger was directly referring to Poch surrendering all hope of winning the Premier League after our 1-1 home draw against West Brom.

Many Spurs fans were hugely disappointed at Poch for the manner in which gave up all hope of the title, especially as not so long ago he'd made it clear that domestic cups shouldn't be our priority and that we were good enough to win the Champions league or the Premier league and that's where our focus should be.

At the time, you could either believe Poch's pronouncements were bold or rash. I thought the latter and many agreed; for a club starved of silverware and constantly attacked for a poor winning mentality, writing off domestic silverware seemed to me to be presumptive and not particularly smart, conceding the chase for the Premier League also begins to look like we were waving the white flag after the West Brom game, and hence our poor start yet again in the Watford game?

We are in a mini slump and Wenger's comments have put fuel on the fire that's been raging about Poch's perceived poor decisions especially when it comes to team selections and his inability to change the direction of games where we've been struggling.


Personally, it's my view that there are many all valid reasons why our results have dropped below what was expected, the question is now, can Poch change the perception of mental weakness and poor attitudes?

Writer:Spursex
Date:Monday December 4 2017
Time: 1:08PM

Comments

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'I am here to fight as long as I can, as long as mathematically it's possible you have to fight. You cannot give any other message out Just reiterates what I said a while ago about Pochetino having the mentality of a loser and the differences between him and Wenger, Like I said Pochetino isn't a winner, we refuses to bring in an experienced old head to steady the ship, why I don't know because HE has no experience of winning anything and isn't able to use an old managerial experienced head to pick up his young players again, he just doesn't have the experience to take it ALL on his shoulders and he is too arrogant/stupid/scared/other, take your pick, to bring in an older player such as Abramovic to help take the strain off Harry. If he carries on in this way he will lose players to other clubs over the next two seasons and we will be left with pushing through young players who just aren't ready because no one will want to come here with our wage structure, so all we get yet again are prospects which we will sell on to the bigger clubs for a goodly sum and then we'll see them get domestic and European honours because we refuse to up the pay ceiling. We are STILL getting a seemingly high proportion of hamstring injuries not only in play but in training too, so maybe Poch's training methods need a serious looking at too, as well as the medical staff.
chrishove123
04/12/2017 13:34:00
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As Poch has given up the Prem, how do you expect the players to fight tooth and nail for it when they know the manager isn't up for the fight any more. They just give up too, and that attitude will carry on through into the FA cup as Poch doesn't rate that either, just as it did in the League cup, or whatever you want to call it now. This is truly the attitude of someone who doesn't have the winning mentality or the experience to lay down the law to his players and make them fight for everything. He also says how proud he is of the players when they lose and have a terrible game, why praise players up when they are rubbish, it does nothing apart from create a culture of complacency and laziness.
chrishove123
04/12/2017 13:39:00
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Its an interesting question whether chairmen or fans have quicker knee jerk reactions. Luckily there's no chance Levy will take any notice. He's a new stadium to finish building and pay for and his team is in a much better position than it was when Poch took over.
jod
04/12/2017 13:43:00
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MP is good manager and a mini slump doesn't change that. Whether he is a "winner" who will deliver a trophy remains to be seen, but all signs were positive only a few weeks ago, so he certainly deserves a bit of credit. Regarding Wenger's comments, I can see both sides. Some will criticise MP for being honest, but I personally admire the honest stance. Of course, his earlier comments about targeting the PL and CL (and thereby undervaluing domestic cups) have backfired and make him look a bit silly, now that we are out of contention for the PL title and are a very long shot for the CL. But show me a manager who has never had to eat his words... I know that some fans will say that's a losing attitude, but I believe that a club with limited recent success trophy-wise, and limited financial resources, has to be realistic and pick battles. Wenger can say what he wants, but he's been targeting the title for the last 13 years and has failed - at some point he sounds like a broken record. I don't know what's worse: sounding delusional like Wenger, or seeming to lack ambition like MP.
BelgianSpur
04/12/2017 13:58:00
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Wow. Fickle fickle FICKLE fans! Yes he's a young manager and yes he hasn't had the chance to manage a team that could win much YET. But they're a team LEARNING together. Clearly you lot don't have the patience to build. Yet you exp CT it from your manager. Such hypocrisy... Be patient, the mistakes hit them all. They're not idiots. By building pressure as fans and the media, you spur on the need for excuses. By showing patience you give them an environment where they can acknowledge their mistakes and improve next time. Anyway. Take it easy kids.
Kaizad Nariman
04/12/2017 14:00:00
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Poch subs and formation had me baffled at times.
123spurs
04/12/2017 14:07:00
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The top managers don't rate MP he's been called out by all of them, the lessor manages rate him because he was one of them a few seasons ago. MP's has to improve massively as a manager before he will win trophies.
palmover
04/12/2017 14:08:00
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He Hasnt learnt from he's mistakes and from past 2 season about teams parking the bus. Has he balls to drop Ali or ericksen to have 2 up kane is shattered 3 season non stop on he's own.
123spurs
04/12/2017 14:09:00
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We have so many set pieces but can't score, we concede set piece and can't defend them, what does poch do in training, he doesn't leave from mistakes
123spurs
04/12/2017 14:12:00
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Doesnt Learn from he's mistakes
123spurs
04/12/2017 14:12:00
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Wait what? We breezed past lower opposition last season! There's been so many small factors that have added up to cause our slump this season. You felt each one with a small twinge as it came on. Give the man the benefit of the doubt and some support at a tough time. He and the players deserve that much. It's been been a few weeks of poor play ffs.
Kaizad Nariman
04/12/2017 14:13:00
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Palmover, what nonsense other managers have called Poch out. Every one of them at some point has praised how he has transformed Tottenham from a team that was scraping around 6th when he joined them, into one that has finished above nearly all of them for the last two seasons.

Just out of interest, who would your shortlist of managers be who you think would be capable of challenging for the title whilst operating under our financial constraints, and would be willing to work to those targets and under those conditions?
Gary Onedaysoon
04/12/2017 14:21:00
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All the praise goes to pep but really city are buying the league, they buy the ready made player and can offer double wages, and if that 50 mil player fails they will buy and 50mil player, how good wud pep be if he had spurs, pool wages and transfer budget same goes for Jose.
123spurs
04/12/2017 14:25:00
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I am shocked at how Poch is being perceived because in all the time Poch has been with us he has shown positivity and fight. His mentality is a 'winner' and while he hasn't achieved that yet he has come closer to the PL title than any other manager we have had recently.

The other thing we need to understand is that winning isn't all down to Poch. The players have to do their bit, the board, Levy have to do their bit and that takes a lot of effort and organising and time. A manager can only do so much, everyone has to work together and that includes us fans and yes I do think we fail the team and club at times. We are so quick to get on the managers and players and Levy's back and it's not useful. We are also quiet at games when the team needs lifting. Some say the players need to lift the crowd, well may be at times they do but its also mature and better to take responsiblility and try and help those who are struggling in life. When players are struggling to lift their game and the crowd why can't fans help a bit more and why can't we help by taking the intiative and stop having knee jerk reactions so quickly! or are we expecting everyone else to do their bit but not do our own!.

How on earth some people think Poch is a loser is beyond me. He has been with us 3 years and in that time he has improved us and just as we were challenging for the PL title we moved out of WHL it came at a wrong time footballing wise but it happened and it will contribute to new challenges and that has had an effect.

I think Poch aims high and that is why he prefers to go for the PL and CL and not the domestic cups, but we fell short in the CL last season and PL this season so far, but came closer than anyone else in the PL for the PL title, that is a good achievement from a group of players and manager who are building a togetherness, working hard to improve, its not easy.

Also Poch has always said he wants to win every game, including domestic cups but he seems to have got a label that he doesn't like domestic cups, I think that is unfair. He is simply being realsitic and choosing his preferences and tbh any team in our position would prefer to win the PL or CL, no point being in CL if you don't want to win it.

The difference between us and other top clubs in the PL is that they have stronger squads due to better recrutiment and more money.

Arsenal have been fighting for the PL for years and failed but due to their money and stronger squad have managed to win a few domestic cups but they haven't achieved the big cups/titles have they.

The problem is you cannot say anything to the media because the pundits and media will use it against you as soon as they can and they do.

As it stands the club is doing alright, the team have hit a blip for various reasons but there is no reason why Poch cannot pull them out of it and they learn from it, but if we as fans do what the media and pundits do and continue to criticise, get on their back, call them names, useless, inadequate then all we are doing is making it harder for them and basically laying the foundations for it to all fall apart, you reep what you sow, so to speak.

I don't see Poch being honest about the title being out of our reach as a negative thing, he is just being realistic, not delusional as Wenger could be seen to be doing. Are Arsenal really going to be able to win the PL title! as I say whatever you say to the meida and fans it is often used against you at the first opportunity. What we need to ask ourselves personally is 'do we want to be that way' or do we want to be better? get behind a young squad and manager and have faith that they can work through any challenges and keep faith in what I see as being a good time to be a Tottenham fan what with the progression seen under Poch and the new stadium.

Lets not be one of those negative media, pundit who earn a living on making other people miserable and write and say negative things to have effect and lets be one of those people who afre positive and supportive and sow some good seeds and get behind everyone at the club, show the rest of the world, media that we are in it together and we are going to make this work, we have a duty as fans to do our bit and we need to remember how we would feel if people got on our backs for mistakes we make, or blips we have in our lives. These people are human and they are growing and learning together, let us do the same and change our stance and be a better person. COYS
It'sMe
04/12/2017 16:22:00
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It's me the closest us winning the title we bottled it and ended up 3rd over 10 points behind.last season same again 2 up against chelsea and buckled. Also poch pick the players an formation and the subs as I said he ain't learning from the past. He has been found out now no element of surprise just predictable spurs.and ashamed to admit poch won't Win nothing, he's closer to been sacked then win a cup, arse have been there worst for years yet have 3 fa cup in last few years yet our obsession with top 4 and cl.
123spurs
04/12/2017 17:02:00
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123spurs, you sound very short sighted. Teams have only "found poch out" in the last few weeks IF that's what you want to call it. Believe me, the man is a hell of a lot more intelligent and perceptive when it comes to football than you or I, or even most managers out there. If it weren't for his work, we'd be happily having a ball sitting in 8th, as our wage structure and spending dictate. Instead we've been consistently challenging at the top. If you can't see what we're building, and demand a title IMMEDIATELY as a right, then you're as deluded as Wenger. I don't know about you, but this team makes me want to scream my head off in support to push them over the final hurdle. When the team is having a tough time due to various factors - injuries, fitness, new pitch, young players, the media - youre meant to SUPPORT your team, lift them with encouragement. Unless you're a depressed self destructive dependent, in which case learn to pick yourself up kid.
Kaizad Nariman
04/12/2017 17:46:00
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3 years ago, when MP took over the shambles left behind by Sherwood and AVB, we'd have all laughed at the possibility, that any Spurs fan could complain about not winning the premiership title for 2 consecutive seasons.
Guyver
04/12/2017 18:10:00
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I don't demand a title but had 2 chances when utd and city were at there weakest and Leicester finished 10 points above us, u can laugh all u want about Wenger, he has achieved what none of the last 10 managers could even manage, let's see so if poch can fin top 4, we are now 7th from second in a matter of few games,
123spurs
04/12/2017 18:26:00
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As I said before we have a great 11 and any injuries to key position we struggle, Toby and waynama, other top 4 clubs has more injury to key players and still manage to get on with it.
123spurs
04/12/2017 18:29:00
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It would be hard to find a manager willing to work under the financial restraints Poch is under and accept it while doing well. This is a tough patch due to various reasons. But Poch is still the right guy for us in my opinion.
spurfect one
04/12/2017 19:27:00
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Last years EPl form was top notch, however, a year too late that level would have won the league the year Lester won it. I find it very difficult to say coming 3rd to Lester is a success, to me it's a missed opportunity. Mp's cup record is terrible. Spurs finished top 4 twice under harry and even AVB and sherwood kept spurs in top six. Levy has never hired a top manager with credentials he always looks for the cheap option tbf MP is the best one levy has hired so far.
palmover
04/12/2017 19:41:00
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Also you'll can thank me for fixing the Article ;)
spurfect one
04/12/2017 19:51:00
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Palmover, i agree. I cringe whenever i hear the press or fans mix the words success with Poch or Spurs. Success is winning something u enter in, all we have done is PROGRESSED very nicely. 2 different things.
spurfect one
04/12/2017 19:53:00
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123. Peps Barca team in my opinion played the best football i have ever seen the whole team were telepathic even Fergie said it's the best team he has ever played against. Look at how Pep has set up City 433 with bags of pace out wide two creative cm's with an all rounder doing the anchor role. Peps set up is simple and is better than MP's. If MP had gone the 433 route spurs would have won the epl instead of lester.
palmover
04/12/2017 20:11:00
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3815837/Mauricio-Pochettino-one-best-managers-world-says-Pep-Guardiola.html Just for you palmover
Guyver
04/12/2017 20:20:00
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'I enjoy watching Tottenham. Not (just) right now. Since last year. I think what he's doing is an amazing job in London, in Tottenham. The way they play I like a lot. 'There are some similarities about Espanyol when he arrived. The first game after he arrived there it was so aggressive. 'There was high pressing and many things, and still the way they played is quite similar (to Spurs). And the quality of the players at Tottenham is good.

They are second. It will be a tough game. I am looking forward to going to White Hart Lane for the first time in my life as well. We will try to do our job. 'If I had not been a coach, I would be just a fan. 'I would be a young coach who want to become a coach, and I see Tottenham and I would say I would like to play that way. That is all I can say. I like how they play. 'Against Manchester City last year they did the same what they are doing this year. And when I see it, I like.' ~~~Pep Guardiola~~~ (of course, Man City would go on to lose that game) palmover? What say you?
Guyver
04/12/2017 20:33:00
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Is that the same pep who said the "Harry Kane Team?" i think he was buttering up MP so he could get the best RB in the league and use him better than MP did. Anyhow i would prefer spurs to be 8 pts clear than where they are presently placed.
palmover
04/12/2017 23:42:00
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A SPURS forum to produce an article with the headline "Spurs fans Losing Belief in Pochettino" leaves me totally dumbfounded. With due respect Spursex, the front page articles go on the aggregator websites and not only does the article regurgitates what was said in The Express, but now adds fuel to a fire which, before you know it, the larger number of media will pick up on as a genuine Spurs Fans' view. This could potentially be more harmful to the manager, players and the club. IMO, such articles should be confined to the Forum inner rooms.

Debating football issues objectively is not 'losing belief', but speculating on the likely cause of the said issues and airing opinions how and what changes may make a difference, even though those opinions are very unlikely to ever reach the men in control at the Lane. Makes for a healthy debate nonetheless.

In general, I am happy with the way Poch has managed the side and the stability he has created. He has developed a lot of our young players that are now being courted by the bigger boys. IMO, Poch has deservedly received plaudits from not only the Spurs fans, but almost worldwide recognition for his development of our team. However, it does not make his immune to criticism, after all, he's on a learning curve whilst managing in the 'toughest' league.

Articles like The Express could well be tip of an iceberg as media in this country can be very radical.... hero to zero.

By all means discuss the pro's and con's of the way Poch goes about his work, or the issues with players, tactics, transfers and finances. But under the title "Spurs fans Losing Belief in Pochettino"...it's a no go. Why even mention the poll in the article?... is it not open to trolls?.... and what was the sample size (20 votes)?
critical_spur
05/12/2017 01:54:00
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Poch, he cant leave as manager, we are going through a real bad spell, yes he needs to man up and drop Alli and Eriksen .... He purchased the older player in Llorente, he needs to play to his strengths .. Davies is not up to the level we expect , just give Rose the contract he wants ... we need him, how we miss the pace of Walker, Trippier is ok, but hes not good enough either, Sissoko, he needs to be sold .... We are away from WHL, yes I get frustrated at the play we do, slow build up no penetration, lack of ideas ... even Kane is too greedy at times etc .... POCH, will sort it out .. however, Levy, he needs to up the wage budget, and get 2/3 world class players in.
E17YID
05/12/2017 04:23:00
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Palmover, you still haven't answered the question: Who would your shortlist of managers be who you think would be capable of winning the title whilst operating under our financial constraints, and would be willing to work to those targets and under those conditions? Said managers should have a track record of winning trophies as evidence of credentials.
Gary Onedaysoon
05/12/2017 05:34:00
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yup palmover, that was the same pep that referred to us as the "Harry Kane" team, after we beat Man City 2-0, despite a Lamela penalty miss and while "Harry Kane" was unavailable due to ankle ligament damage.
Guyver
05/12/2017 06:53:00
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palmover aka Ghana, you need to get your facts straight. Thats 3x's now this week you've been unable to keep your blatant bias against MP in check.
Guyver
05/12/2017 06:56:00
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Spurs had good enough players to win a trophy under MP. As you have pointed out spurs are capable of beating any team on their day however, when it matters the team come up short. why? My opinion is that the man who makes the calls is hit and miss. Mp is a good coach and i wouldn't replace him as the deal is 5 years after that if there are no trophies i think he will leave.
palmover
05/12/2017 08:06:00
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palmover, which trophies does Poch need to win to retain his job? Champions League? EPL? Or would the League Cup and/or FA Cup suffice?
Gary Onedaysoon
05/12/2017 08:12:00
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palmover .... You are right that for some time Spurs have been able to beat anyone on their day. We all know that there has not been quite enough of those 'days' to result in a trophy. The reality is that over the past couple of seasons (perhaps longer) we have been enjoying more of those 'days' than before. The THFC project, which is a WIP, aims to continually improve until those 'days' add up to a trophy. It's all about continual improvement which so far has been reasonably consistent but cannot be critically assessed until the end of the season .... at which time all the variables which affect a football club can be taken into careful consideration. Given this, I cannot help thinking that the 'project' remains firmly on track.
Geofspurs
05/12/2017 08:22:00
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Poch is working under the same constraints as every other manager at Spurs in the ENIC era, lack of on the pitch investment, and what investment there is is misdirected on the "wrong players", our recruitment policy is flawed, and when at last we got somebody in with a record of successful recruitment (Paul Mitchell), he was unable to work with the chairman and didn't last 5 minutes. You don't have to have boundless riches to succeed, ask Leicester City. They won the PL without a billionaire owner sat sunning in the Bahamas, by finding, scouting, signing and coaching, good players (Kante, Mahrez, Vardy, Drinkwater, etc. etc.) who were off the radar, were cheap, and proved to be quality. Where criticism of MP is perhaps justified is that he fails to learn from his mistakes, is unimaginative in his team selections and substitutions, and doesn't seem to know the difference in games against main rivals, between picking a team and game plan to win or to set up to avoid losing, the two are not the same. If we were to force MP out, who does anybody suggest would be available and of a) of the required calibre, and b) would be prepared to work under the constraints imposed on him at Spurs. He would have to work with a decent first XI with very little squad depth and an apparent unwillingness/ inability to do anything about it.
Frank
05/12/2017 09:37:00
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Frank - I'm not suggesting that we should replace MP by any stretch of the imagination, but to answer your question (and for the sake of discussion), there are a couple of intriguing available managers out there, for any ambitious club to consider: Carlo Ancelotti (who has shown that he's willing to take on challenges), Thomas Tuchel (who worked at Dortmund under the same constraints he would have at Spurs), Marcelo Bielsa (MP's mentor), Luis Enrique (who was hugely successful at Barca), Laurent Blanc,... This being said, at this rate, we might be in the market for Tony Pulis on current form (just kidding)! We should all be backing MP, but my old boss always used to say "cemeteries are full of irreplaceable people" - in the end, anyone's job can eventually be taken over by someone else.
BelgianSpur
05/12/2017 10:15:00
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Carlo Ancelotti has won it all and managed the biggest clubs and has managed in England wining the EPl. The timing is wrong as it would be harsh to sack MP now, however, if spurs don't make top4 and Ancelotti is available in the summer it would make sense to bring in a big ticket manager to make sure the stadium is full.
palmover
05/12/2017 11:09:00
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Bringing in a new manager is no guarantee for anything, no matter what his track record might be. How many clubs have thought a new manager is the answer to their woes in the past? It would require a calculator to arrive at the number. The manager is just one part of a club's bigger picture, and for a club to win trophies consistently each of those parts must compliment each other part. That is every clubs problem .... except those few clubs that have the capacity to buy a trophy. We are not yet one of the few.
Geofspurs
05/12/2017 11:24:00
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Carlo Ancellotti, last four clubs: Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, four of the richest clubs in Europe. Do you really see him coming to Tottenham to work on a shoestring, even if Levy was willing to pay his salary?
Gary Onedaysoon
05/12/2017 11:35:00
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Belgian, as always I totally respect your knowledgeable views and opinion, and I totally agree with the selection of suitably qualified and proven successful managers you have nominated, who might be possible candidates available should MP fall completely out of favour. Some of these might even have worked under some constraints in previous or indeed current roles, but none of them have been unfortunate enough to have worked under the unique constraint in place at Spurs, namely one Daniel Levy.
Frank
05/12/2017 11:43:00
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What has transpired for Poch this season has been a weekly check to see who is definitely out, who needs patching up and throwing out there and who is suffering with form and needs replacing. When things are going well football management is easy, the team picks itself. However, with all of the form and injury variables in play this season Poch's job has been so much tougher and if we're honest very difficult to compete with the bigger and deeper squads around us. That being said, our eleven is quite often better than the opposition whoever we select and they need to produce more.

Where Spurs missed a trick in the summer was in the attacking third of the pitch. When you look at Liverpool they invested in Salah and already had Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana and Mane. Regardless of injuries, those guys take turns destroying the opposition and share the workload. You'll see the same with Sane, Aquero, Sterling, Jesus and Silva at City whilst Utd are now doing it with Martial, Rashford, Mikhitaryan, Mata, Lindgard, Young and Pogba. Utd's doesn't look so scary but the fact they have numbers makes the difference. I could list out Arsenal and Chelsea's as well but I'm sure you get the point. We have all of our workload on Kane, Eriksen, Alli and Son and have lost our wing-back play which has put us in a tough spot. Poch has to deal with that in the transfer window and hopefully with some careful re-introduction of Lamela. We don't nick the wins like our nearest rivals as our attacking midfield isn't functioning right now. We have to get more depth there.
muttley
05/12/2017 11:56:00
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Muttley, unfortunately MP is unable to address any of the shortcomings in our squad in this or any other window, unless unlike previous Spurs managers, he is able to sign cheques or negotiate deals and contracts. He will get what he is given.
Frank
05/12/2017 12:04:00
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muttley, maybe Ross Barkley, if he is willing to take a pay cut and reject Chelsea again.
Guyver
05/12/2017 12:13:00
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which I doubt he'll be willing to do. Although on paper, we look the perfect fit for him.
Guyver
05/12/2017 12:15:00
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Frank - I still believe Poch has the power of veto on players he doesn't want, but that's not the same as getting his chairman to go above transfer fee and salary thresholds to get the best players he does want. The point I've always made about that is that if you look at our best players (Lloris, Jan, Toby, Rose, Dembele, Wanyama, Eriksen, Alli, Kane etc) they all worked within our financial boundaries on their way in. It's keeping them from the billionaire vultures is the long term problem as they hit our salary ceilings. I think there is some of that going on now with our senior players.

Guyver - to the above point, we can easily make Barkley's transfer fee and salary expectations work and get him in a Spurs shirt. Allardyce's comments on TalkSport were interesting this week though. He was talking about the difficulty of getting him back into 1st team action because of the size of his original hamstring tear. However, he then said "I’d like to think we can keep Barkley, unless somebody’s already done a deal for him. I am not daft enough to know in this game that those words and phone calls might not have already gone on. If we could get Ross Barkley to stay then nobody would be more delighted than me. Whether that is a possibility I do not know. For me it’s about getting him back in the squad first and seeing where we are from there." - Read into that what you want but my interpretation is that you won't see Barkley in an Everton shirt in December or January. It may well be us that has a deal in principle in place but we won't be getting a match fit player and knowing us we won't get him 1st Jan. It will be close to transfer deadline day. I'd still love to have him at Spurs for the long term though.
muttley
05/12/2017 13:10:00
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Totally agree Muttley about injuries and depth of squad. In Poch's second season, the season we finished third, we barely had an injury of any significance to any of our key players. And that season we only had the Europa League to contend with not the Champions League, which, given the quality of the opposition this season, is far more demanding. I'm sure if Poch had the quantity and quality of say United's front players, he wouldn't feel the need to continuously play an out-of-form Dele and a knackered Eriksen, and Kane could given given time to fully recover from his injury.
Gary Onedaysoon
05/12/2017 13:46:00
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Injuries, Wembley, teams working out how to play us, the effects of The Champions League but most importantly the lack of squad depth are the main factors. We are able to rotate our full backs but there is almost no scope for rotation elsewhere in the squad (if we all accept that sissoko is no where near good enough). We need some refreshing of the squad in January - a centre back Barkley, Zaha?. Will that happen? almost certainly not - Levy doesn't tend to spend in January. Although he may be so desperate for us to move into the new stadium with Champions League football that he may just give Poch some money to spend. Have I lost faith in Poch - absolutely not. It's time for everyone to stick together and results will surely pick up COYS
DoncasterHotspur
05/12/2017 14:38:00
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Correction: Some Spurs fans are losing belief in Poch. Probably a good few of them didn't really hold too much faith in him, in the first place.
Hot Tottingham
06/12/2017 13:00:00
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man I wish 123 Spurs and palmover had their own site, or we had a block button in this, as for this article, Im disheartened, I know we dont have the right to lose a game of football, but to have a 6games winless run and to see this article and comments after 3 good years makes me lose respect for some others as well.
Ossie
07/12/2017 12:57:00
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Why a separate site for two posters that have a differing view? Surely this is a forum and discussions are what keeps it alive. Remember the massive amount of replies we had a few years ago, they went as some were targeted over their views. Poch certainly is struggling, one point is he bought GKN but does not play him even when we need pace and Alli is a passenger, perhaps Poch really is not learning. I would not swap Poch for anyone ATM but he seems to be in a rut.
ro6ertj
09/12/2017 00:42:00
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