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£634 million Net v Minus £5 Million

£634 million Net v Minus £5 Million

When Money talks, fantasy Walks.

£634 million net v - £5 million; the difference in spend in the last 5 seasons...



It's hard not to be jealous over the disparity, but I harbour the team owned by one of the richest per capita countries in the World no ill will. Someone has to win the lottery, and it was their turn. Monetary spend of that power and magnitude in any sport or business makes a difference and I expect it to show against us too.

There is a difference between being admiringly envious and churlish. Churlish is claiming that selling them Walker was a smart piece of business because Trippier is better; those making these claims are clutching at straws. Thank God they don't scout players for a living.

One is an out and out wingback with incredible pace and powers of recovery, now coupled with tremendous timing and an improving end product, which combined can leave defenders for dead and the other is a Right back, that can't go past a standing steward without stopping and passing it sideways or backwards, what he can do is make long deep accurate deliveries; but don't expect him to keep step with anyone pacey or recover his position easily, because he can't.

Walker went from strength to strength under Poch and when we sold him he was close to, if not the best Right Wing back in Europe. Since then, from what I've seen and what my ManC loving friends tell me, he's got better game by game. That will be a huge bonus for England.

Whilst I cannot forgive him for his unprofessional conduct and the way he undermined the team the coach and allowed naked greed to undermine his character, it would be equally as churlish for me to suggest we haven't missed him. For those that thought Trippier was better, just ask yourself why we invested so much in Aurier, who sadly we simply won't see the best of until next season.

Rose isn't yet back to his best, so whether it's him or him and Davies as I expect who will need to curb his runs, they are going to have their hands full - as Spurs fans have goaded Walker on Social media, I fully expect him to repay them and us in spades.

Now to the game; the tally between all meetings between the clubs is close we've won 60 drawn 35 and lost 58. Recent meeting is what matters most and so far since Pep took over, Poch has come out on top City last won a league fixture at home against us in October 2014. We beat them 2-1 in February 2016 followed by a 2-2 draw last January we came back from 2-0 down when they really let us off the hook that day.

City go into this game in magnificent form and playing some of the best football I've ever witnessed in the Premier league, this season in all competitions they have had 25 game, won 22, drawn once when reduced to 10 men, drawn one against Wolves in the league Cup (that they then won on penalties (that was like a nursey school outing) and lost one game away to Shaktar Donetsk after fielding their B/C team - such are the depth of riches at their disposal.

We on the other hand have slipped, just as I said it would be, Wembley has proved a troublesome 'home' ground, team after team has upped their game and one by one the tactic by the visitors has been to frustrate. It won't surprise anyone that apart from perhaps one game against Liverpool our best play has been away from home.

I can only see a very tough game for us Rose, Winks, Dembele are all still trying to find their form after injuries, we will of course be without two of our best players of last season in Victor and Toby, and Sanchez has another game where he must sit in the stands. Dele has looked out of sorts and out of form and Harry is another still trying to find his deadly sharpness from last season after returning from injury.

Two recent wins, one emphatic the other less so has lifted spirits and Poch as always is taking a very positive approach to meeting the 'best team in the premier league' - an assessment I can't take exception to.

Poch normally likes to mix up his approach for the big games and I wouldn't be surprised to see him do it again here; to me this looks all over a game where we will have to play or should as we did in the Champions league and play on the counter, with Trippers crosses I'd be tempted to start both Llorente and Kane because if City are vunerable anywhere it's at the back - they'll be missing Stones and Kompany who for my money are their best two CB's, we know what Walkers capable of and we also know that if pressured and harried he can make mistakes.

I just can't see us springing a surprise win here, we just are not at the peak that I think we would need to be to do that, our best hope is to use the counter to score by long diagonals or fast breaks because what I also do not expect us to be able to do is keep a clean sheet for this one.

I hope I am wrong, so in ending a draw would be a great result, a win simply is not on the cards for me - the gap between their spend and ours is vast and so eventually that chasm will tell as the respectice premier league standings affirms.

I'm going to speculate on our line-up; lloris, Trippier, Dier, Vert, Davies, Rose, Dembele, Winks, Eriksen, Llorente, Kane.

A match to relish, although I will be watching at home with everything crossed.

COYS!!



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Writer:Spursex
Date:Friday December 15 2017
Time: 11:22AM

Comments

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While the game may be interesting I'm not sure its actually significant. City are already 11 points ahead of United in second place, even at this early stage its hard to see anyone catching them. We are really engaged in a battle for the remaining champions league spots which probably will run until the end of the season.
jod
15/12/2017 11:58:00
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Yes,let's just give up Jod & hand them the title now. Perhaps we should let them keep it for the next 10 years because we will never match them for wealth. In fact why bother turning up? Football used to be interesting ,now it's all over before Xmas!
Greavesaboveall
15/12/2017 12:10:00
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Counter attacking without Son?
Megaadz
15/12/2017 12:13:00
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I think we'll use Son off the bench for this one, at least I would - he does his best work when he comes on and exploits the spaces as the game goes on...imho
Spursex
15/12/2017 12:33:00
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This IS a significant game ... for us. City may well take the title at a canter but we need all the points we can get to finish in the top four. In that respect, every game is significant. City should dominate possession which means our best chance of scoring is on the break. Given this, I can't see any use in Llorente starting with Kane .... he'd just be standing around watching City play keep-ball. We will need speed on the break so Son should certainly start.
Geofspurs
15/12/2017 12:48:00
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geof, I can see Kane dropping into the role between Llorente and the midfield -as his ability to close down and work, may be crucial, but most of all he knows how to make the right forward pass..
Spursex
15/12/2017 12:53:00
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If as a supporter (jod) is being reasonably realistic at this stage of the season, by saying that it looks unlikely that City can be caught. That's not giving up and nothing to do with how our team and manager might approach the rest of the season. I'm pretty sure that jod would want us to win every match and that the team will indeed try their best to win all matches. But, in the scheme of things, even from my own perspective as an eternal optimist, then unless Man City have a major collapse and THFC win virtually every remaining match in the PL (21), then yes, I have to agree with jod. This match will probably not be the most significant one of Spurs' entire season. .... Of course it shouldn't change the way we approach this match and it would indeed be significant in itself if we are the 1st to defeat them in the PL this season. Even so, I doubt that it would be the start of a dreadful decline for them. After all, we are pretty good ourselves and more than capable of getting the full 3 points.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 12:56:00
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Then again, if we were to beat them 6-0. That may well see them at the start of a great fall...... And that would be so, so sweet. Haha!
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 13:05:00
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I have to agree with the comment that the league is over before Xmas and, if its because the clubs with the most money to spend are the one's that win the title then that makes a mockery of our English premier League. Leicester was an abortion as well as a revelation, in fact, it should have been a revolution because clubs with less money should be competing with those that have just to prove its not all about money. The truth is the PL is two leagues in one; those with the money occupy the top four places and just like the Spanish League and the German Bundesliga everyone knows whose gonna finish in the top four...the beauty about Spurs is that we weren't supposed to be in the top 4 and the naked hatred that the Gooners and Chavs have thrown our way in the last two seasons shows just how much we have upset the status quo! We are footballs equivalent of disruptive technology. We have no right to expect to win at the Eitihad because form and buying power dictates that we are not good enough. I take the opposite view. When a game like this comes along we play the man not the shirt. I dont care if we lose but i want to go down fighting, I want the boys, all of them, to leave it all on the pitch. Harry will knock his marbles out for this one and I want everyone to follow his example. This game is about shutting down space, its about the high press, its about busting a lung and getting in their faces, there is no reason why we cant win this one. You can forget your £684m its all about who wants it most on the day and City will show up expecting to win, we have to turn and expect nothing. We have a week off after this game we can afford to leave it all on the pitch and one player more than any other has the chance to prove he's back and that's Dele Alli. Our Back four is not the best but its better than there's and Dele has to turn up for this one! We know what we get from Son I just hope Poch doesn't fanny around with the selection picking players like Sissoko. This game is every bit as big as Real Madrid at Wembley. We didn't stand a chance with them either! This is the most important game of the season not just for us but for the Premier League we need to show everyone else that City can be beaten like we showed Europe what can be done to Real Madrid. The only people that must not write this game off is our Players! even if some of our fans have. COYS!!
OyVeh Maria
15/12/2017 14:05:00
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Greavesaboveall - Where to start .... First, admitting City look as if they can't be caught this season isn't "giving up", its facing reality. As I said we are probably in a top four battle until the end of the season so its about points. Its just that City are the same as Brighton from our perspective, every game is about three points and we need to pick up as many as possible. Second we are still in the champions league, something that may be a longshot but is still winnable. Third "we will never match them for wealth" ? We are building a new stadium which should make a dramatic difference to our income. I could see a scenario where, if the authorities started properly enforcing the financial rules, at some point we could actually match their income.
jod
15/12/2017 14:18:00
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spursex .... Well, that's a fair point and I can see that, too. But I'm not sure that MP will set the team up that way for this game. If we get something from it MP will be lauded as a master tactician. If we don't, he'll be criticized for being inexperienced at this level. Both assessments would be nothing more than knee-jerk reactions to the result. Who'd be a manager!
Geofspurs
15/12/2017 14:38:00
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Sorry EX but Walker was never the best RB/WB whatever when he left us. Often caght out of position and unable to recover, fond of giving unecessary free-kicks away just outside our box and yes haingthe pace to go past opposition defenders (although he rarely did) and put in a cross to the far corner flag.Coupled with his sulky behaviour, Trippier was a better player than Walker when he left. Pep has managed to install a partial brain in the lad and taught him how to cross a ball, something that Poch never managed, and he now has little to do in games as City's front 6 play most of the game on their own. Regarding tomorrow's game, on form we have no chance but if the lads finally decide to run about a bit, put some tackles in and shoot properly (yes you Harry Kane) we could win it.
Harry-Kari
15/12/2017 14:53:00
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Geof I remember well this away fixture last season and Poch had the full gamut thrown at him all within the 90+ mins. Spurs were not playing well and were two-nil down. However, we ended at 2-2.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 15:02:00
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Walker v Trippier. Both have goal 4 assists this season. But Kyle has scored 1 goal and Kieran has no goals to his name. I should mention (I suppose), that KW's goal was at his own end!
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 15:33:00
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4 goal assists that was meant to read...
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 15:34:00
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Man. city fans are laughing that some spurs supporters really believe Trippier is better than walker, if that was the case they would have bought trippier. Somethings are obvious but some people can't face the facts.
palmover
15/12/2017 16:08:00
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I remember them having a blistering start last season too, which then fizzled. doubt that will happen again but it won't be a cakewalk for them, that everyone thinks. they have pace most places but can be less efficient when theyre asked to glean chances from crosses out wide (not deep diagonals tho'). force them wide and keep the middle tight. even if conceding more corners then usual. theyre not used to teams countering THEM for a change, so the likes of Son, Erikssen, even Sissoko and possibly Lamela might be just what the doctor orders. the team that possibly still has the greater allround squad, maybe even team, are about to visit them - expect the unexpected.
Plenty O'Tool
15/12/2017 16:24:00
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I very much doubt that City's form this year would be any different (worse) with Trippier in their team. Likewise, Spurs form with Walker in it. The main difference I find between the two is not down to what they contribute to the team as a whole, (which is very similar), But how they look to a spectator when in action. Their styles of play are very different but that's not the same as one being so much greater for the team than the other. Kyle looks stronger, faster and more dynamic than Kieran. More athletic, if you like. And this is probably because he is. But in this case looks can be deceptive. Tripper puts many more crosses in than Kyle does and his success rate with them is also superior. Defensively their stats are very similar as individuals but overall, KT"s stats are more impressive than KW's, given that Kyle has played more matches this season and many more minutes. ..... To my eyes, I love watching KW in action (more so than Kieran), but I can also see that KT is just as good for THFC as Walker mostly was and in some respects he is most definitely better.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 16:26:00
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So, palmover. What I'm saying to you is: Don't judge a book by its cover and don't presume that what you see to be so obvious is indeed a fact, when in many ways it is just your subjective view on the matter.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 16:37:00
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HT, ouch! But well said.
Harry-Kari
15/12/2017 16:46:00
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HT why aren't teams chasing trippier then there still after rose and he's been out injured. Trippier can only cross and he puts in plenty of bad ones, however, when teams stop him crossing like the Wba and Chavs game he has nothing to fall back on, in other words he is one dimensional and predictable and he is nowhere as good a defender as walker, he is ok as a squad player though.
palmover
15/12/2017 16:56:00
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Will it be nice to see Kyle Walker? Yes of course, we keep a very good relationship. It’s always good, after three seasons together, when a lot of things happened. It’s always good to see the players that were with you and players that did a lot for the club, or did a lot for myself, to try to help me to achieve all that we wanted, and it’s good to see him because we’re people that did a lot for him to try to achieve all that he wanted. In the end. It’s good to see him. Kyle Walker (Image: Stu Forster/Getty Images) Are you worried that players will look at him and what he’s achieving now? But it’s human nature that the players always want to improve, and have different challenges and ideas. But I am not worried, because in the end it’s always three parts in all the situations in football – the players, the club that owns the players, and if another club want some players, and in the end it’s to be agreed on different things and try to make everyone happy with the decision. We’re not worried. We know how our project is and who we are, and in the end we try to develop our project not only thinking about today and tomorrow, but thinking long-term. That is so important, because it’s not only that we need to win today, tomorrow, after tomorrow. We need to win today, tomorrow and in one year and two, three, four years. That is the plan for Tottenham. It may be completely different than others teams, that the most important thing is to win today. That is a good point for the debate when people assess us and compare with another team. The plan is of course to win today and tomorrow, but to win in four years too, not only win today and what happens tomorrow is another day. But some players don’t have that time and want to win now? Exactly, that is the problem. I agree with you. Maybe some players are not agreed in this plan and this strategy, and of course they are right to complain, to talk and in the end to want to move or have another challenge for different reasons, because we are all different and we all have different challenges, motivations, roles in our life. That is normal. The most important thing is to talk, to design the plan for everyone and then be happy everyone because life is about enjoying and being happy. It’s not about wasting time in a bad way, because life is so short.
palmover
15/12/2017 16:58:00
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Excellent post HT 16:26. palmover is running out of ways to spin this Walker story as each one is gradually refuted. And what do Spurs fans care what Man City fans think anyway? Don't forget also that City paid us a world record fee for a full back of £54m, which was a ludicrous sum. If he was the best in the world there may have been some justification, but to many he's not even the best in England. Personally I would have a fully fit fit Clyne ahead of him.
Gary Onedaysoon
15/12/2017 17:07:00
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palmover, I'm sorry but I do disagree with you. Thing is I'm just as happy with KT in the team as I was with Walker. But I like to check stats as well as use my eyes to back up an opinion and I promise you, as individuals this season Trippier comes out on top in most ways, both defensively and in attack. However, I was also talking about what they contribute as a whole to their teams and there's really nothing between them. Just because City are doing so much better it doesn't follow that it's because of Kyle being better than Kieran, regardless of who you prefer or think is better. I was a big Walker fan and still will be when he plays for England but I'm now a big fan of Kieran too. We must also remember that he is now just 1 half of a duo of RB's at Spurs and shares the burden with Serge. All 3 are very different types of player but all are very good, imo.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 17:12:00
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Oh dear! I am in the churlish camp. :)
Arky
15/12/2017 17:48:00
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A draw tomorrow will be fine for me,...COYS.
Arky
15/12/2017 17:49:00
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HT were only supporters, How many Pl teams of the year has Trippier been in? None, However, i know Walker will be voted by his peers as the best RB in the country this season as he was last because he is a better player than Trippier.
palmover
15/12/2017 18:24:00
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I accept that as your opinion but I am comparing the 2 going by this season alone, now that they play for different teams. Walker was our main guy for many seasons and I didn't want to see him leave. However, as a team we seem to be no worse off without him. That's all I'm really saying. They have different attributes and each one excels in some where the other one doesn't. Fact is, Kieran now gets my backing by virtue of being a Spurs player. Kyle doesn't because he is not. That's how it will always work for me. Unless I feel that the Spurs player in question is particularly bad.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 18:32:00
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Sorry palmover but I'm back to stats again. Tripper made just 12 apps for Spurs in the PL last season compared to Walkers 33. It wasn't really likely that he would get into the team of the season. Even so, we did pretty well with him when he did appear. - This all seems quite pointless to me now. Walker has gone. He has left the building and I'm over it.
Hot Tottingham
15/12/2017 18:48:00
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Above all, tomorrow we must match their intensity from the off and run them into the ground.COYS!!!
Arky
15/12/2017 21:18:00
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We must make our endurance count against their speed. COYS!!!
Arky
15/12/2017 21:20:00
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For me Son MUST start. Spursex, earlier you said, "I think we'll use Son off the bench...", but I have to agree with Arky that we must match them for intensity from the off. For me Son is the only AM with pace (unless Poch goes with N'Koudou!) who offers us the 'taking on defenders' and a 'genuine goal threat'. Personally, I'd keep Dele on the bench and let's not select him on the sentiments of two goals he scored at the Etihad last season. He just hasn't been at his best for some time this season. Also, after Brighton, I'd take Winks out of the firing line. I can also see Poch stick with his favourite Sissoko. If Rose starts, I think we will be fine on the LHS, but I have serious reservations about the RHS as Aurier risks a red card and Trippier lacking pace. Sane and Bruyne will be handful. I think we will be given a proper lesson on how to move the ball at pace and precision, mostly forward. BUT... we like a good game v a footballing side. We put a dint in their run last season, so time to repeat that feat. I'd take a draw now. I doubt we will recover a 2 goal deficit this time round. If we manage a goalless 1st half, things may swing our way. Just think, their AM + strikers depth is scary with the likes of Jesus, Aguero, Sane, Bruyne, Sterling, Silva......and more! So, everything crossed. COYS!
Critical_Spur
15/12/2017 21:58:00
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Could someone remind me .... who's Kyle Walker?
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 00:10:00
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There’s been some interesting discussion about corners and there were some very valid points made. THFC have a history of ‘firsts’. Maybe it’s time to revolutionise football again! Let’s stop playing for goals and start playing for corners. If we get 25-30 corners each game we could average 3 or 4 goals, which is more than we are currently managing. Of course we would need to recruit 3 very tall American basket-ball players, teach them how to head a ball, and stick them in the opponents’ box. Not impossible. MP is good at teaching things like that. If all three stand in front of their GK he wouldn't even see the ball. And, not just corners; every other player could just bomb the ball into their area every time they get it and hope for the best. We wouldn’t even need ‘our Harry’. He could sit on the bench (if he gets that far) and relax. C’mon, think about it. You know it makes sense .... and it fits perfectly with the clubs philosophy as it would be both ‘daring’ and ‘doing’.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 00:46:00
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That's a brilliant idea, Geofspurs!
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 00:54:00
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I know.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 00:56:00
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See, some posters are agreeing with me already!!
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 00:57:00
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Man City? What a team! Very good indeed. I like watching them play. Bit like Spurs really. What a team! Very good indeed. I like watching them play.

I don't think we'll thrash them but I do think we will beat them

I know, I must be crazy...

Manchester City 2-3 Tottenham Hotspur!

Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 01:21:00
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Geofspurs. I agree.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 01:24:00
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Thought you would.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 01:34:00
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I'm not going to pick a full line up but if I were Pochettino I'd definitely go for Chris Hughton at left back and on the right (from the 77-78 2nd Division PFA Team of the year, Terry Naylor)! What? What do you mean they no longer play for Spurs? Okay then, Benoît Assou-Ekotto on the left and how about Kyle on the right. Naughton, not Walker! Kyle Walker-Peters? Who's he?
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 02:03:00
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Kylie Minogue? We should be so lucky. But what a game changer she would be!
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 02:14:00
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I agree .. i think Kylie Minogue's best position would be sitting next to me during the match. She'd change my game.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 02:22:00
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Good night! I need my beauty sleep. Big game tomorrow. I need to be match fit and up for the big celebration. Call me old fashioned but I do love a Spurs win! Hod Bless. Sweet dreams and... Up the Spurs!
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 02:23:00
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Geofspurs - Against Brighton it seemed like we got 25 corners, its just a by product of one team attacking all the time and the other defending all the time. The problem was we did nothing with them, as usual. Its not rocket science, hit the ball fast and flat into the box at around head height and just far enough from the keeper so that he isn't sure whether to come or not. Then any touch from an attacker or defender can send it into the net. Gascoigne used to be able to do that consistently with either foot. In our current squad we don't appear to have a single player who can take a corner.
jod
16/12/2017 08:53:00
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Lamela takes an excellent corner/freekick, which is one of the reasons we scored the most goals froms set pieces in the EPL two seasons ago.

https://www.express.co.uk/pictures/sport/6522/Premier-League-2015-2016-most-set-piece-goals-sportgalleries
Guyver
16/12/2017 09:40:00
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Pep Guardiola has hailed Kyle Walker as the best right-back in the world ahead of the defender’s first meeting with former club Tottenham. Manchester City boss Guardiola believes there is currently no-one better in his position than England star Walker, who joined the Blues from Spurs for £52million in the summer. Guardiola has worked with some of the finest right-backs in the modern game, including Dani Alves and Phillip Lahm, but believes Walker is currently the top one. “Right now I’d rate him as one of the best, definitely,” said Guardiola. “He has so much energy and he is so strong defensively. I’d like to help him to solve, not just the problems through his physicality, but also through his thinking. Walker is impressing in the City team this season Walker appears to be getting better and better “When you’re so strong physically, you solve all of the problems that way. When you get to a certain age, 28, 29 or 30, you need to think more about what is going to happen. “But when a guy is strong like him, sometimes you have to be calm, have moments to run, other moments to be quiet. You have to use many different ways during a game. “So I’m always encouraging him to think and then, after, do it. Marcus Rashford and Anthony Martial, they are so fast and he was able to control them. “Few players in the world can control them like he did. That’s why he’s so, so important for us.
palmover
16/12/2017 09:43:00
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This is Vital Spurs, isn't it? Am I lost?
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 09:51:00
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Good morning palmover. You do seem somewhat obsessed with Mr Walker.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 09:53:00
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Who's your current favourite Spurs full-back? And why?
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 09:55:00
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Kyle Walker will likely deteriorate rapidly once he reaches 30. As Pep says, he relies heavily on his physical attributes. He's no Dani Alves. Also that Mirror article is ridiculous. It keeps saying "pep says Walker is the best RB in the world", but when you actually read the quotes from pep, he says "one of the best" which is very different.. and something most people are already aware of.
Guyver
16/12/2017 10:01:00
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Got to worry about Pep's mental health.
Harry-Kari
16/12/2017 10:04:00
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Have they developed brain transplants yet?
Harry-Kari
16/12/2017 10:06:00
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Pep says, he's always encouraging Walker to think. It has always been his weakness, although he improved that side of his game immensely under MP, hence the £50m+ price tag. No top team was interested in Walker (or Rose for that matter) before MP arrived.
Guyver
16/12/2017 10:08:00
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I'd just love to see KW sent off today. I'd love to see the entire Spurs away support giving him the (Dele Alli) middle finger as he walks shamefully toward the Etihad tunnel.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 10:11:00
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jod .... I do agree with you.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 10:20:00
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I'm still trying to find out who Kyle Walker is?! Doesn't anybody know?
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 10:23:00
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He's the UK's Answer to Usain Bolt. And just like the Jamaican, he's also an 'alf decent footballer, apparently.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 10:26:00
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I have my doubts though... After all, the guy hasn't actually won anything as yet.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 10:34:00
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I can't watch the game until 5am Monday (UK time) so I'll be exiling myself from all media outlets after the early games today. Why does life have to be so hard? And football is even harder!
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 10:36:00
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Usain Bolt would be a good transfer target. He doesn't have to touch the ball .... just run around a bit and take a few opposition players with him. He'd be just the sort of player 'Arry' would have bought.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 10:39:00
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palmover, as HT points out, you're obsessed about Walker and beginning to sound unhinged. What did you really expect Pep to say about Walker given that he paid a world record fee for him? 'We got royally ripped off by Tottenham but hey, it's not my money'. A truer test of how good Walker is compared to the best in the world will be the World Cup in the summer. Then he will be in an inferior team (England) and the opposition will be stronger. He was woeful for England recently.
Gary Onedaysoon
16/12/2017 10:50:00
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OK, so Kyle Walker team 1 Harry Kane team 1.
Critical_Spur
16/12/2017 10:53:00
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Geof, your chat with the other Geof reminded me of the crowd at Wembley v Brighton. Looked so empty and they'd have been talking to themselves!
Critical_Spur
16/12/2017 10:55:00
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CS ... I think your Walker 'own goal' makes it 0-2.
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 10:56:00
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You kidding Geof?...Have already put my tenner on Spurs at 3-0 based on your qualified tip. Get ready to refund me!.... an Amazon voucher will do!
Critical_Spur
16/12/2017 10:59:00
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CS ... lol. Don't worry. You just know it will be 0-3!
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 11:08:00
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I can't deny that a part of me is dreading the thought of Dier facing City's attack today. And without an orthodox defensive CM to protect the back four it could be a long afternoon. There's nothing we can do about our absent defenders but there a lot we can do about our approach to this game though. What I would really like to see is a return to our high pressing game of two years ago. We don't do this nearly as much these days, maybe because Poch believes it is unsustainable over a season and there is the large pitch at Wembley factor. However, as a one-off today I want to see us harass and press them all over the pitch. If we give them time to play they will hurt as badly. City still play out from the back and this is where we can get most joy. Their best football-playing defender, Stones, is out, as is Kompany. Otamendi and Mangala, if he plays, are not a patch on these two. We know from his days at Spurs that if you pressurise Walker he makes mistakes. Delph, on the other side, is a liability. Don't let them play out from the back and you'll disrupt the flow lines to their attackers.

On another thread I think it was Fanman suggested playing Dele in a CM role alongside Dembele instead of Sissoko and Winks. I totally agree with this - as a one-off for today. Dele had arguably his best league game this season in this role against Liverpool. He has the energy and athleticism to harry City's forwards. And he can join the attack when we break forward giving us numbers and options. That means we could play Eriksen, Son, Lamela and Kane as a front four.

I would like to see Rose start this game instead of Davies. I think he will relish going up against Walker and raise his game.

My feeling is that Poch will revert back to type though and I think the team he will pick is: Lloris, Trippier, Dier, Vertonghen, Davies, Dembele, Winks, Dele, Son, Eriksen and Kane.

The team I would pick is: Lloris, Trippier, Dier, Vertonghen, Rose, Dembele, Dele, Lamela, Son, Eriksen and Kane.
Gary Onedaysoon
16/12/2017 11:12:00
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CS ... Well, if you woke up earlier I wouldn't have to talk to myself. But I don't mind .... I do enjoy an intelligent conversation!
Geofspurs
16/12/2017 11:23:00
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I do like your line-up Gary. Very bold.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 12:08:00
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We did play for about the last 20 mins (I think), without Toby in this match last season. With Dier coming on from the bench. And we defended against them very well after getting back into the game. - They have of course have stepped up a couple of gears since then and we'll also have to step it up from the start this time around.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 12:14:00
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Many confuse lack of support or pessimism for facing up to stark reality. We are not as good as Man City. Whether it is down to actual money invested, or the contrasting recruitment policies of the 2 teams, we are a considerable way behind them as the PL table confirms, and we will have to be very fortunate to get anything today. We have not only spent far less money than them, but we have also, due to our flawed recruitment and scouting set up, signed several "duds" since our "Bale/Modric/ VDV splurge" when with the exception of the Eriksen deal we blew the proceeds on poor signings, all of whom have since left the club. This is something that you can ill afford to do if resources are as tight as we are led to believe they are at Spurs. On the subject of resources, I think it is unwise to assume that the increased revenue from the new stadium, even when it is fully financed, will automatically lead to increased investment on the pitch, in terms of fees and wages for players. It is equally, or indeed more likely, that these increases in revenue will simply enhance the already extremely healthy bank balance of our owner Mr. Lewis. After all as a multi billionaire he has not exactly thrown his money behind the team on the pitch before, preferring to invest it in bricks and mortar. Another topic of concern is how we seem to fail to fully utilise the talents of some of the players we have/had. Kyle Walker is unrecognisable at City compared to his form and apparent abilities at Spurs, he has become an integral part of their team in the short time he has been there, and is regularly mentioned as a possible MOTM contender why? Has he suddenly become a much better player, or does Guardiola use him to greater advantage than we did at Spurs before selling him to a direct rival, a poor decision in itself. If he was adamant he wanted to leave, he should only have beeen sold to a foreign club or not at all.
Frank
16/12/2017 12:22:00
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All top six games are 50/50 spurs lost to the Chavs, Man.u and Arse, however, all the games were close. Today is no different spurs have more than enough to beat City. Spurs can match city in midfield, kane and son have enough ability to hurt cities CB's. Sane and sterling's pace can hurt any team so it will be interesting to see who MP plays at FB. Coys
palmover
16/12/2017 12:24:00
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Sorry, just checked. Dier was already playing and Toby went off with about half an hour left (and we were still 2-1 down), with Winks replacing him. Jan was out injured on the day. We played a back 3 with Wimmer in for Jan.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 12:29:00
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It may be unrealistic to say that we can catch them. But it's perfectly realistic to say that we can beat them today. So, I'm in agreement with you palmover, this time.
Hot Tottingham
16/12/2017 12:37:00
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