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Spurs: The End Begins!

Spurs: The End Begins!


The race for a top four finish in the PL is hotting up (thank you, Watford!). Who will be there at the end? The remaining fixtures between the top six clubs are:

City have to play 4 games; Arsenal (away), Chelsea (Home), United (Home), Spurs (away).

United have to play 4 games; Chelsea (Home), Liverpool (Home), City (away), Arsenal (home).

Liverpool have to play 2 games; United (away), Chelsea (away).

Chelsea have to play 4 games; United (away), City (away), Spurs (home), Liverpool (home).

Spurs have to play 3 games; Arsenal (home), Chelsea (away), City (home).

Arsenal have to play 3 games; Spurs (away), City (home), United (away).

The way I see it is; City couldn't lose a top four place even if they wanted to. That leaves three vacancies. If we beat Arsenal on Saturday it would surely put them out of the running (shame about that!). That leaves four clubs (United, Liverpool, Chelsea, and Spurs) competing for three places. We would have two top six games left and our three major rivals would have four (I like that). The remaining fixtures then gives Spurs a great edge for the run-in and, if the final positions were purely based on these games, Spurs would have to be a clear favourite for one of them. This is assuming, of course, that we beat Arsenal.

But the final positions will not be based on these games alone. It all depends on how the four rivals perform against clubs in lower positions on the table, and that is unpredictable. However, if we secure as many points against the lower teams as our rivals do, I think we will enjoy CL football in our new cathedral next season!

And so, the end begins! How do other VS posters see it?



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Writer:Geofspurs
Date:Tuesday February 6 2018
Time: 10:26AM

Comments

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Lots of factors, the other competitions may well play a deciding factor too. Everyone is still in Europe, and the LC and FAC may well throw additional challenges out there. We're fortunate that we can rotate heavily for our next 2 FAC fixtures, hopefully keeping some of our players fresh. We are doing very well so far, a win against Arsenal (with me in the stands!) being the cherry on top of the cake.
BelgianSpur
06/02/2018 10:34:00
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What will be interesting is how Poch uses his squad for the run in. He started the season by putting Sanchez in between Toby and Jan and played with wing-backs in a 3-4-3. However, we were without Wanyama, Lamela and Rose whilst Dembele was also struggling for fitness and form. Without Rose owning the left hand side of the pitch we looked a lesser side especially as we started to feel the impact of Walker leaving.

Then Toby got injured and we reverted to the other option of 4-2-3-1. That meant that we got to see more of Eriksen, Son and Alli playing together and our form has been better of late. Once Toby and Rose return, it makes you wonder what Poch will do. Is it back to the 3-4-3 or does he take Sanchez out of the firing line for some games? He also has Lucas Moura available now and he hasn't exactly joined to be a bit part player.

It's going to be intriguing to see how Poch manages his formations and team selections. I do believe that if we can keep the squad fit though, we will make top 4.
muttley
06/02/2018 10:46:00
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BS, I will also be at Wembley on Saturday..... If I find myself sitting next to a guy, with a notebook and calculator in hand and I introduce myself to him, what are the odds on him responding with a Belgian accent?
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 10:56:00
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Play like we did against United and Liverpool second half then it’s hard to see us not finishing at least third. Play like we did against Southampton and Liverpool first half then we won’t

I just hope Moura gets a chance and brings something new to the party. Really frustrating that other January signings are already impacting yet the bloke we have signed is apparently not fit enough for the bench.
hudderspur
06/02/2018 11:04:00
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Too many variables to make a scientific prediction, so I will restrict myself to one -keep Harry fit & well & success will be ours.
Greavesaboveall
06/02/2018 11:18:00
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When predicting how the rest of the season will pan out, I'm still going for my (nearly) best case scenario. I'm thinking we will finish strongly and others around us will continue to falter. So, it's still 2nd in the PL and/or a cup for me... Any cup will do! 2 would be nice... My purely non scientific reasoning behind this is simple. We are a bloody good team with a bloody good manager and bloody good coaching staff..... All for one and one for Spurs!
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 11:35:00
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Top 6? 1.City 2.Tottenham Hotspur 3.United 4.Liverpool 5.Chelsea 6. Burnley!
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 11:39:00
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I've said before that this season has been characterised by every one of the top teams bar City dropping a ridiculous number of points they shouldn't have. The run in won't be about who wins the head to heads against other top teams. It'll be about who manages to win the games they should win.
jod
06/02/2018 11:42:00
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It's quite possible that players playing immediately for other clubs after a January transfer may well suffer for it in the end if they were not fully match fit when starting. Barkley for Chelsea perhaps? He has yet another hamstring injury already..... Moura has barely played all season and so it makes perfect sense to me not to rush him into the team, until he is up to scratch in training and settled in a bit with his team mates, etc... Other high profile transferred players making immediate starts for their respective clubs were either already playing regularly this season, at a high level and/or PL experienced as well. Sanchez for example...
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 12:00:00
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I think we struggled to adapt to our new temporary home and injuries have hurt us. I honestly believe we are the second best team in the league. I think we will finish second or third, probably third behind United. We are finding the form we had all been used to seeing, crucially just at the right time. Whether we beat them or not, Juventus will know they have come up against a top team.
asherthesmasher
06/02/2018 12:15:00
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BS .... You're right, of course .... the cups and Europe could also have a large influence on the top four outcome. As far as we're concerned at least our squad is close to being completely injury free .... unless someone gets injured!
Geofspurs
06/02/2018 12:17:00
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I'd chuck Moura in against the robust tackling of Newport on Wednesday.If he survives that he's ready for the Premiership. We may have to give him extra coaching in his diving skills though.
Greavesaboveall
06/02/2018 12:42:00
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If we continue playing the way we have in the last 2 games, I don't see us finishing lower than 3rd. Chelsea are going backwards fast and Liverpool are still too gung-ho. Man U have been consistently boring but might cling on to 2nd with enough1-0 wins
Parklaneyido
06/02/2018 13:15:00
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Moura ineligible for Newport game.
Greavesaboveall
06/02/2018 13:23:00
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I think there are far too many variables to make any confident predictions. After the Southampton game it was looking a forlorn task just to get near the top 4 particularly as the next three games were against the top teams. But what is reassuring is that our current form is approaching that of the second half of last season and if it continues it's going to take two very, very good teams to finish above us (it's a given that Man City will).
Gary Onedaysoon
06/02/2018 14:14:00
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The rumours are gathering pace that Conte is on the verge of being sacked at Chelsea. And it seems to me that he is goading the board into sacking him. This is bad news. We really need him to stay a few more weeks. The atmosphere is toxic at Chelsea at the moment. The last thing we need is the bounce that comes with a change of management even if it is only a temporary appointment.
Gary Onedaysoon
06/02/2018 14:18:00
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Gary ... Yes, I agree. It is too early for a confident prediction .... but, it's fun, isn't it? Given the points we've picked up on the teams above us over the last few games it certainly looks a lot more promising now. But the many 'variables' will stuff up a good prediction every time. Ain't it great!
Geofspurs
06/02/2018 14:23:00
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I don't think we'll see much of Moura at all in the next few weeks. Poch has already said he cannot expect to walk into the first team, that he is competition with players like Eriksen and Lamela. He also needs to understand Poch's philosophy, gain fitness, acclimatise to the premier League etc. With an almost fully fit squad now, and being cup-tied for the FA Cup, I think his opportunities are going to be limited in the short term.
Gary Onedaysoon
06/02/2018 14:24:00
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Geof - having Toby back will be massive. It'll be nice to have everyone available for the upcoming games.
BelgianSpur
06/02/2018 14:27:00
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HT - brush up on your French, there's 4 of us going!
BelgianSpur
06/02/2018 14:28:00
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Agree with Muttley, it is going to be very interesting to see how Poch accommodates both Toby and Sanchez. Personally I think we're a more complete and balanced unit when we play with a back four. It allows us to play with four forwards and Dembele alongside a CM. But it's going to be very difficult to leave one of Toby or Sanchez on the bench.
Gary Onedaysoon
06/02/2018 14:29:00
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BelgianSpur, My French is good. Not as good as your English. :-)
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 14:52:00
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I've had the crystal ball and the seaweed out ever since the the 1st Division and I have never treated a game against a lower placed club as a banker. Crystal Palace away will be a tuffy, Bournemouth know how to beat a top 6 at their place. Stoke and Brighton will be in a dog fight especially Stoke so expect some bone shattering tackles coming in from them at the Potteries and the Baggies, who will hopefully know their fate by the time the 5th May arrives, cos if its still in the balance for them, we are going to have a game on our hands! In fact we have just as much say at what happens in the bottom four places as we do the top four! We defo don't want 4th place cos that means coming off a World Cup and playing in the qualifying round which start in June! If we finish 4th we would have to start in July!
OyVeh Maria
06/02/2018 15:16:00
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Spurs squad has top level fitness, which showed at Liverpool and against other teams this season. So with Toby, Rose , Winks back, we can rotate the team and keep everyone fairly fit. Dele should be dropped for a game or two, get him to realise his diving is not acceptable. I hope Jan can keep going.. without injury..he has played in all our games when available, should be our player of the year. We should finish the season strongly now, beat Newport 4-0 then the gooners, and Juve over 2 games...So we will have confidence and momentum to get top 4 PL.. semi final CL. COYS
Block D Spurs
06/02/2018 15:19:00
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OyVeh.. Makes a good point, as...... spurs players need to keep focused and respect the opponent each game as it comes, (as poch would say !) Not a time for complacency attitude again..too many banana skins around in remaing games.
Block D Spurs
06/02/2018 15:25:00
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OyVeh.. Makes a good point, as...... spurs players need to keep focused and respect the opponent each game as it comes, (as poch would say !) Not a time for complacency attitude again..too many banana skins around in remaing games.
Block D Spurs
06/02/2018 15:25:00
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Sorry double post ??
Block D Spurs
06/02/2018 15:26:00
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Critical... referring to an earlier thread when you mentioned about Falstaff the fool.. consecutive posts, on here when Ox was site admin. It was myself who had the highest over, 11 posts.. :-)
Block D Spurs
06/02/2018 15:30:00
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If we don't pass by Chelsea damned quickly, then something is seriously wrong. They are a team in big trouble right now. Put the sword to Arsenal to eliminate them, and then run quickly up the table past Chelskum.
David O'Brien
06/02/2018 15:44:00
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You should check out the Vital Chelsea site ...its a blast ! talk about the rats leaving the sinking ship its called the two face blues "we're only singing when were winning" .........all that money and they still can't keep their managers!
OyVeh Maria
06/02/2018 16:13:00
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Block D, double post? yesterday I somehow had a triple post. No idea how or why. keep posting.
David O'Brien
06/02/2018 16:46:00
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Do I feel sorry for Chelsea?-Nah! I'm lovin it.
Greavesaboveall
06/02/2018 16:49:00
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Lloris, Aurier, Toby, Sanchez, Verts, Rose, Dembele, Eriksen, Son, Alli, Kane.....To me that’s our most attacking side. Allows Aurier and Rose to bomb forward and the attacking bent of Dembele to assist the diamond front four. Then on the bench we have Vorm, Davies, Wanyama, Dier, Lamela, Maura and Llorente. Subs can be determined whether you want to defend a good lead (Wanyama for Dembele, Dier for Son, Lamela for Eriksen) or chasing the game (Wanyama for Dembele, Maura for Son, Lamela for Sanchez). Possibilities and combinations look extremely good.
jvd
06/02/2018 17:28:00
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I'd go along with your line of thinking there, jvd.
Hot Tottingham
06/02/2018 18:13:00
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OyVeh .... Good point about CL and the difference between finishing 3rd or 4th .... in which case 2nd or 3rd is the desired target.
Geofspurs
07/02/2018 00:23:00
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Oyveh - if we finish 4th, we enter the CL qualifications at the play-off stage. Only teams from smaller leagues are involved as early as June or July. Whichever team finishes 4th in the PL would enter the CL play-offs directly, and they are typically played in mid to late August (this year, it was 15/16 August for the 1st leg and 22/23 August for the 2nd leg). So there is no problem with the World Cup. The PL will start before the CL playoffs do. I'm all for finishing as high as possible, but any PL team that finishes 4th is almost nailed on for the CL group stages. I can't remember the last time an English team failed to win their playoff.
BelgianSpur
07/02/2018 09:15:00
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The whole bottom half of the table are in a relagation battle
123spurs
07/02/2018 09:44:00
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BS ... That's true but it would still be far more beneficial to the squad to finish higher than fourth in order to miss two play-off games.
Geofspurs
07/02/2018 09:45:00
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Geof - If we can, I'm all for it of course. But the main thing was that if we finish 4th, it's still a very manageable situation and a great finish. And thankfully it doesn't pose the scheduling problem Oyveh was fearing. It's going to be a proper fight between now an the end of the season just to get in the top 4. Right now, I wouldn't look past that objective. We're not even it it as it stands. Once we are in the top 4 comfortably and looking down, I'll starting looking at how we can compete for a higher finish. Baby steps.
BelgianSpur
07/02/2018 11:12:00
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So you conceding we aint gonna win the league this year HT?? you think we will run city close???....lol,
Ossie
07/02/2018 11:30:00
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BS ... Yes, I guess I'm with you on that.
Geofspurs
07/02/2018 12:00:00
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We will run City close when we play them Ossie... Me might even knock them out of the FA Cup or better still, the CL. :-)
Hot Tottingham
07/02/2018 12:06:00
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Even in BOTH finals!
Geofspurs
07/02/2018 12:28:00
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"England is set to have four guaranteed places in the Champions League group stage from the 2018-19 season. Currently there are automatic spots for three English clubs, with a fourth having to qualify through a play-off, as Manchester City did this week after finishing fourth in the Premier League last term. It is understood a revamp will see the top four nations in UEFA's rankings for club competitions - currently Spain, Germany, England and Italy - each get guaranteed places for the teams finishing in the top four in those leagues"

I think 4th placed EPL teams now go straight to the CL group stages.
Guyver
07/02/2018 16:56:00
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Guyver - I think that was a proposal but to my knowledge, that hasn't been made official yet. Any more info?
BelgianSpur
08/02/2018 10:51:00
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